Not that I am really disappointed with the Kaiser, but I have been wondering as of late if the Crusie might be a better fit for me. All things considered, internally the two are pretty similar with the only additional feature of the Crusie being FM radio, which I would probably use.
Externally, the Cruise goes SANS keyboard in favor of the touch screen. In keeping with the touch screen design, it has far fewer buttons over all and has a slight size advantage.
So looking at it, the package is pretty attractive, seems less prone to mechanical wear and tear and I find myself wondering if I could do without the slide out keyboard. I am pretty good with the block recognizer, and in cases where I might use a keyboard, some of the adaptations of the iPhone soft keyboard seem like they would be a decent alternative for my relatively light keyboard use.
Getting down to it though, I am a bit concerned I would be disappointed with the touch screen, and if the touch screen does not work well, I would definitely rather have the keyboard.
So my question is if anyone has some hard facts on the differences between the screen technologies. does it work like the iPhone where it responds only to touch, not to inadvertant tabs while in you pocket or in the case?
Can anyone can provide a "hands on" comparison between using the touch features on the Kasier, vs using the touch features on the Cruise. Or given that the Cruise is pertty new, is the Elf screen technology exactly the same such that trying one out would give me a good indication of how the Cruise would work?
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sprints-Diamond-gets-pictured-dated-article-a_3052.html
Hideous, I like how the hardware obliterates that of the VZW Diamond, but c'mon, seriously? Red backing?
I actually think its quite nice. Anyway, those pictures arent confirmed yet are they?
I like the rounded shape and the flat, non-facet back cover. I'd prefer that to the standard HTC Diamond anyday. Not so sure about the red, though.
I don't know if they are, but the date is confirmed august 28th. I agree with the fact that I wouldn't want the black faceted back cover, aka fingerprinto magneto, but I really dislike the red. The AT&T touch pro has a charcoal gray backing, works really well because it's not matte but at the same time doesn't attract fingerprints (or look horrid).
I actually find the design to be very good....
HastaSSSS
Those pictures look photoshopped. I get the feeling it'll be a looooooong time before Sprint has it to offer.
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Numerous Sprint reps have confirmed seeing/using the red backed Diamond. It is real. Most reps are saying that the Diamond will be available in limited quantities by September 2nd some stores may have it as soon as August 28th. Sprint store training for the Diamond phone will start this weekend according to what I've read.
I think it is a major downgrade in that red color. The rounded curves of the CDMA Diamond are a nice improvement over the rectangular GSM version, but this red backing significantly cheapens the look of the phone in my opinion. GSM back covers will not be able to fit on the CDMA version because it uses a larger battery and is 2.5mm thicker.
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The rounded curves of the CDMA Diamond are a nice improvement over the rectangular GSM version, but this red backing significantly cheapens the look of the phone in my opinion.
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Biiiiig 2nd.
Yeah it's like they "Fisher-Priced" this shiny expensive phone. I'm praying that it doesn't look as bad as these photos in person. Here's a video of the Telus version for comparison...
http://www.thetouchblog.com/files/ab69645b09064395d259f5d27a82363b-3.html
The screen looks so good. CDMA version of Diamond seems faster and more responsive as well.
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CDMA version of Diamond seems faster and more responsive as well.
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Couldn't be more false. Removed all tweaks and compared, touch pro was same speed navigating TF3D, faster to flip through pictures, and what was that lag with the accelerometer in Opera??? My phone flips as soon as I turn it, almost iPhone-like, and his took a good 3 seconds...
I was talking about the Diamond not the Touch Pro. Touch Pro has more RAM than the CDMA Diamond which has more RAM than the GSM Diamond. That could be why your Touch Pro is faster. I've watched a lot of videos of the GSM Diamond on Youtube and I've never seen it open up photos or Opera that fast. And usually the accelerometer lags a bit when changing photo orientation, but it didn't happen in the Telus video.
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I was talking about the Diamond not the Touch Pro. Touch Pro has more RAM than the CDMA Diamond which has more RAM than the GSM Diamond. That could be why your Touch Pro is faster. I've watched a lot of videos of the GSM Diamond on Youtube and I've never seen it open up photos or Opera that fast. And usually the accelerometer lags a bit when changing photo orientation, but it didn't happen in the Telus video.
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Hmm... I guess it's a possibility. 288 for mine, 256 for CDMA Diamond? Either way, that was an assload of lag in Opera's transfer. Not like a few seconds is gonna kill anybody.
I'm liking the look of the Sprint version.. more curved and matte flat back - would look better with a black back instead of the red.
Imagine an Xperia that could tilt it's screen at greater angles. This way you can keep your phone on a perfect desktop-viewing angle (slide and tilt) or on a perfect hands-on angle (slide only).
Would this be a good idea? Why not?
poetryrocksalot said:
Imagine an Xperia that could tilt it's screen at greater angles. This way you can keep your phone on a perfect desktop-viewing angle (slide and tilt) or on a perfect hands-on angle (slide only).
Would this be a good idea? Why not?
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Lol no! I'm happy it's not there!
Firstly the mechanism for this tilt would be more easy to damage,
secondly for a small device like a mobile,
present angle is fine,
it's not a computer in size.
Great idea. I had hoped for such a slider for the X2 and always wanted that incorporated in a pocket pc device...
That would be perfect. TP2 shows that it can be as sturdy as any orher tilting tech and it is perfect for movies or reading (especially with a 4 inch screen).
As long as it is not fixed like the N97's and resembles TP2's variable tilt design, I'm in.
i agree with doministry on this one, im glad its not there, i remembered my x1 falling off my desk with the slide open, no damages encountered but just imagine what if it was a tilted mechanism...i think for a mobile the arc slider is unique and works just fine, why not beg Sony Ericsson for a deskstand/charger for the xperia like the p910,p990 and p1. i prefer one of those than a tilted screen
im sure the mechanism aint made from iron, so those tiny parts can be easily bent
if you damage your phone.... take note that sometimes its not just the build of the device that is fragile but the care of it that is lacking.
If you were able to buy replacements, would you like the phone to have a desktop slider?
its true, but a Mercedes Benz isn't expensive because of its name
I believe if we spend this kinda money on a device, we should be getting the money worth
you really think that the battery cover paint should be rubbing off in less than 1 month? big joke
i buy silver and gold, not costume jewels
Please, drop the "will brake easily" argument. Have you held the TP2? It is as solid as the Moon.
It gives you more options and makes the phone more versatile, without compromising the quality of the device or the experience. An obvious choice, really.
I have been using the X1 but came to the conclusion that the screen was to small and the device to compact formfactor-wise to enjoy a fingerfriendly Mobile OS like WM 6.5.
Is the screen on the X2 bigger than the X1?
Euroman28 said:
I have been using the X1 but came to the conclusion that the screen was to small and the device to compact formfactor-wise to enjoy a fingerfriendly Mobile OS like WM 6.5.
Is the screen on the X2 bigger than the X1?
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Excuse me, IS THAT SO HARD to find out??!!
There are many sites with specs,
like GSMArena....
Lol.
doministry said:
Excuse me, IS THAT SO HARD to find out??!!
There are many sites with specs,
like GSMArena....
Lol.
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Imagine the tare I have subject my keyboard too
Euroman28 said:
Imagine the tare I have subject my keyboard too
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Sorry I don't understand you at all.
Euroman28 said:
Imagine the tare I have subject my keyboard too
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I'm sorry, what?
X1 VS X2
X1 has 3.0" recessed screen, X2 3.2" flush.
X1 has hardware + optical direction pad, X2 only optical.
X1 has 3.2mp cam, X2 8mp.
X1 has a panel button, X2 doesn't.
X1 is made by HTC, X2 is not (Mobinnova).
X1 is more metallic, X2 is more plasticky.
X1 has a small key keyboard, X2 has larger keys with arrow keys.
rickysio said:
I'm sorry, what?
X1 VS X2
X1 has 3.0" recessed screen, X2 3.2" flush.
X1 has hardware + optical direction pad, X2 only optical.
X1 has 3.2mp cam, X2 8mp.
X1 has a panel button, X2 doesn't.
X1 is made by HTC, X2 is not (Mobinnova). [Frankly, HTC >> Mobinnova]
X1 is more metallic, X2 is more plasticky.
X1 has a small key keyboard, X2 has larger keys with arrow keys.
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I would definitely say Mobinnova >>> HTC
(as a manufacturer)
doministry said:
I would definitely say Mobinnova >>> HTC
(as a manufacturer)
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I agree. mobinnova, part of foxconn which have a very high build quality and makes almost all of the high end products we use every day (ipod, nds, ps etc)
htc on the other hand has a very hit and miss on build quality.
I just want to use this opportunity to rant about the STUPIDEST DESIGN DECISION EVER - the lack of a hardware d-pad, but the inclusion of an optical one.
I will NEVER buy a phone withoout a hw d-pad and there are people that don't need one and even hate them. That's ok, personal preference and all that, but...
SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT'S THE POINT OF PUTTING A D-PAD AND MAKING IT AN OPTICAL ONLY ONE.
I am serious. What's the point? Why not put a hw d-pa as well?
hw only d-pad makes sense.
hw + optical makes sense.
optical only DOESN'T!
Frakking FAIL SE.....
rickysio said:
I'm sorry, what?
X1 VS X2
X1 has 3.0" recessed screen, X2 3.2" flush.
X1 has hardware + optical direction pad, X2 only optical.
X1 has 3.2mp cam, X2 8mp.
X1 has a panel button, X2 doesn't.
X1 is made by HTC, X2 is not (Mobinnova). [Frankly, HTC >> Mobinnova]
X1 is more metallic, X2 is more plasticky.
X1 has a small key keyboard, X2 has larger keys with arrow keys.
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I want that X2's keyboard...
For me, arrow keys are attractive.
doministry said:
I would definitely say Mobinnova >>> HTC
(as a manufacturer)
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Whoops, I guess I wasn't clear about what I meant. The plastic they used (Mobinnova) is cheapo looking - I had a chance to look (not play with, sadly. It was behind a glass panel) at the X2, and it struck me instantly at how cheap the plastic looked.
rickysio said:
I'm sorry, what?
X1 VS X2
X1 has 3.0" recessed screen, X2 3.2" flush.
X1 has hardware + optical direction pad, X2 only optical.
X1 has 3.2mp cam, X2 8mp.
X1 has a panel button, X2 doesn't.
X1 is made by HTC, X2 is not (Mobinnova).
X1 is more metallic, X2 is more plasticky.
X1 has a small key keyboard, X2 has larger keys with arrow keys.
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Used to own the Touch Pro and can't help but feel that the X2 is just what the X1 'should have been' in order to make it on par with the Touch Pro (and here I'm not even referring to the Touch Pro 2): flush screen, arrow keys on keyboard, accelerometer...
Basically it's an improvement over the X1, but just comparable to the other devices from that generation and not the current generation ones.
ipporek said:
Used to own the Touch Pro and can't help but feel that the X2 is just what the X1 'should have been' in order to make it on par with the Touch Pro (and here I'm not even referring to the Touch Pro 2): flush screen, arrow keys on keyboard, accelerometer...
Basically it's an improvement over the X1, but just comparable to the other devices from that generation and not the current generation ones.
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Meh, there was no way I was going to take the original Touch Pro over the X1... and I'm one of those that would have saved ~300 bucks by doing so. And to be honest, I think the Touch Pro2, X2, and X1 are all pretty much in the same boat, which puts the X1 ahead of its generation in my mind. Things like the accelerometer and flush screen are nice, but hardly neccessities. The TP2 while it has a great screen is excessively bulky in every dimension, and lacks buttons. For comparison, a modern day great design is that of the upcoming Motorola Droid which has a huge screen and is as slim as the iphone. Had the TP2 and X2 both had Snapdragon processors then I'd say the X1 was old news.
To the OP, my X1 is being repaired, and so I'm currently using an ATT Pure (rebranded Diamond 2), which has a flush 3.2 inch screen like the X2. The size difference is noticeable, though not drastic. I assume the recessed screen on the X1 makes the most difference to the people that like to use Touch Flo 3d, as you often want to swipe all the way to the end of the screen. I don't use Touch Flo, so it doesn't bother me much. Ohh, and it also makes a difference if you are using the HTC sip as the keys go out to the edges... but I don't use that either, Resco's keyboard has keys that are just far enough from the edge that it doesn't bother me.
I would like JUST to see a real, honest comaprison of, let's say,
X2 and HTC HD2,
in all the impporant aspects like browsing etc.
By that I would judge how the devices are.
Data on paper - I don't really care.
My X1 with the power it has, is a decent device, and
any problem I encounter on my routine,
is not processor dependent.
HD2 has Snapdragon, a 1GHz chipset, which will make Xperia look severely dated, since X1 and X2 uses the same old Qualcomm chipset. Unfortunately. Do a search on youtube - the speed of the Snapdragon processor is VERY evident. Zooming in pictures without lag? Yes, with the HD2. With the X1/X2 zooming in is more stuttery. Same for webbrowsing. HD2 loads faster. Once again, youtube is your friend.
X1/X2 however, has a hardware keypad, optical joystick and much more buttons, something I prefer after having used an iPod Touch before. Capacitive screens hate huge fingers like mine.
That, and a higher resolution camera, and a far larger battery.
orelsi said:
I just want to use this opportunity to rant about the STUPIDEST DESIGN DECISION EVER - the lack of a hardware d-pad, but the inclusion of an optical one.
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are you sure about that? That would really be extremely stupid. I do need a hardware D-Pad.
Master_H said:
are you sure about that? That would really be extremely stupid. I do need a hardware D-Pad.
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Well just look around all the available info on X2..
No hardware Dpad, just optical.
But I assume the optical will be improved...
why make so small devices with small screens then using a "finger-friendly" OS?
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why make so small devices with small screens then using a "finger-friendly" OS?
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I'm pretty sure my pocket/pants/waist/jewels will hate me very much if I lugged around a handphone with a 5" screen. The point of being finger friendly is to allow for small devices with small screens - I'm fairly certain that a 21" screen will make WinMo operable with a foot.
"Is that your handphone or are you really THAT happy to see me?"
Having come from a long line of WinMo phones, all of which had resistive screens, I have ordered a Dell Streak based purely on its size. I am a heavy PDA user and a light phone user.
However, two of the things that I really like about the resistive screen are that (a) I can have a lot of information on the screen at any one time and click on any of it with the stylus and (b) I can use handwriting recognition for all of my text input.
I realise that a capacitive screen cannot do either of these, but I am wondering how effective the capacitive stylii that are advertised actually are.
Anybody got any experience with them?
Got one, don't use it. There may be differences in quality, the one I have works 'reasonably' well, but not well enough to use on a regular basis, it has a flat sponge type of tip.
The first one I bought from eBay turned out not to be for a capacitive screen (seller refunded without argument) so you do need to be careful.
I have one, use it often to draw on the streak. It does take a bit of getting used to, but they're accurate and feel a little more organic (because of the soft tip) than 'regular' styluses.
Got one, don't like it. It came free with some screen protectors.
I'm not sure if it's a high quality one or a cheap one (exspect branded), but I can't get on with the spongey feel of the tip.