Guys,
Can someone explain to me how the TD2 claims 50% more batter life then the TD???? The TD is 900 mah and the TD2 is 1100 mah... how is this 50% more or am I missing something?
I was thinking that maybe the TD2 uses a diff kind of battery but its the same Lith ion is it not?
Then I was thinking that maybe its the hardware but the TD2 has better specs then the TD so shouldnt it use more juice?
Then the TD2 screen size is bigger so shouldnt that also use more battery power?
So it excapes me how the TD2 has 50% more battery life??? I ask because I am considering to get the TD2 so I'm doing my due dilligance. My other choices are the HTC Touch HD and the Nokia N97.
thanks guys
HTC is a piece of sheet. Buy a Nokia
i cant tell why they say 50% better, but it is much better in battery life :-D
hummm..... thanks for the replies
although the battery capacity only went up slightly, htc said they decreased the battery usage, so a fully charged battery should last 50% longer. at least thats wut I've read..
They have made the device more power efficient, as I have said many times before on these forums, I DEFINITELY get at least 50% more life than I did on my TD1.
new battery for diamond 2
I use since one week this battery (1350mA)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
and it works fine, round about 30% more power! same size as original one and not expensive.
Tom
adesonic said:
They have made the device more power efficient, as I have said many times before on these forums, I DEFINITELY get at least 50% more life than I did on my TD1.
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Same experience here. First WM phone I only charge every other day.
goofy584 said:
I use since one week this battery (1350mA)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
and it works fine, round about 30% more power! same size as original one and not expensive.
Tom
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This battery not much larger mah... 30% more ... wow
between TD2 and Touch HD, I think I'm going to go for the TD2. Now the decision is between Nokia N97 and TD2....
humm.....
venom037 said:
Guys,
Can someone explain to me how the TD2 claims 50% more batter life then the TD???? The TD is 900 mah and the TD2 is 1100 mah... how is this 50% more or am I missing something?
I was thinking that maybe the TD2 uses a diff kind of battery but its the same Lith ion is it not?
Then I was thinking that maybe its the hardware but the TD2 has better specs then the TD so shouldnt it use more juice?
Then the TD2 screen size is bigger so shouldnt that also use more battery power?
So it excapes me how the TD2 has 50% more battery life??? I ask because I am considering to get the TD2 so I'm doing my due dilligance. My other choices are the HTC Touch HD and the Nokia N97.
thanks guys
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Well, I was asking myself the same question.
After looking at the size of booth ...well, if TD2 is 1100mah ... then TD1 is 600Mah ..
I think that the 900mah of the battery of the td1 was not true.
Look at this pic, the TD2 battery is almost the double of the size of the TD1...
(remember that the TD2 is bigger than the TD1)
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/htc_td2_backopen_570px.png
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http://attach1.mobile01.com/attach/200904/mobile01-47f90d167c66ac6e8cb292d8606d7254.jpg
sjauquet said:
Well, I was asking myself the same question.
After looking at the size of booth ...well, if TD2 is 1100mah ... then TD1 is 600Mah ..
I think that the 900mah of the battery of the td1 was not true.
Look at this pic, the TD2 battery is almost the double of the size of the TD1...
(remember that the TD2 is bigger than the TD1)
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/htc_td2_backopen_570px.png
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http://attach1.mobile01.com/attach/200904/mobile01-47f90d167c66ac6e8cb292d8606d7254.jpg
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tho the size is bigger its still not double i think.... hence it must be something to do with the ROM of the TD2 that is more energy efficient is all i can come up with... I doubt its the touch flow 3D as more was added to it and from that perspective, I would assume it uses more battery.. oh well....
Does anyone actually use the TD2 now who also had the TD as I think those people would know best.
thats true..
Rom does matter.
2 things that affect the battery life a lot
ROM version and Radio Version.
but according to my experience using newest HTC mobiles, i fells no worry.
upgrading to new official ROM and got so much improvements
you'll find newest official ROM release for TD2 at htc.com
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What is your experience with battery life? How often have you recharge it?
Twice a day. But thats because Im using high speed data (3G, HSDPA, WiFi), browsing the web a lot and testing/developing software.
Thanks. And what is "stand by" time? If I leave the mobile switched on without using.
hey
i think it can last for more than 3 days on standby. i recharge it once a day (normal use). if i do heavy data/multimedia use its twice a day.. not so nice as i think
I am disappointed to find that using gps in car with Tilt plugged into car charger, the battery drains faster than it recharges - requiring a charge with phone off to get full battery. Anyone else?
s730 with GPS?! Do you have the preproduction model?
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s730 with GPS?! Do you have the preproduction model?
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I guess he means HTC Kaiser / Tytn II aka AT&T Tilt.
mine is also not really great, if i compare it to my old vpa compact II, which has a bigger touchscreen and only 200mah bigger battery, its really shameful, cause my old vpa holds easily 3-4 days, but it has only 200mhz i will look for a stronger battery for my s730...
please report in if you find a stronger battery
search ebay for: Battery HTC S730 bought 2(fake i guess)including recharger
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please report in if you find a stronger battery
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Got a 1800mAh coming in a day or two. Should be better than the oem. I was charging once a day with it, but taking it easy so I didn't run out.
does the battery from the s710/vox fits inside s730/wings?
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Got a 1800mAh coming in a day or two. Should be better than the oem. I was charging once a day with it, but taking it easy so I didn't run out.
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where did you get it? its the bigger one? or its so small like the original? whats the name of the producer, im a little bit worry about my descendants, if you understand what i mean(explosion)
HTC S710/S730 Extended Battery 1800 mAh
Here is some link:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/931/htc-s710-s730-extended-battery-1800-mah
Tell us the experience with it!
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Here is some link:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/931/htc-s710-s730-extended-battery-1800-mah
Tell us the experience with it!
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1800 mAh cant have the same size as the 1050's from HTC. It may be bigger but this meand you need special cover. S710 and S730 uses same batteries but the cover is different (I tried that).
1) And the cover is included - or it is the bottom of battery?
2) Can you make the photo?
3) How it increase the battery life?
Yeh moneytoo - you mean the differences between the original battery putted to s710 and s730. well it be interesting if somebody will share the experience with this (maybe thicker) stronger battery and put here the back loop.
Thanks, R.
P.S. On the other side - the capacity of AAA cells is still growing - but the size is the same.
ive found this one:
http://cgi.ebay.de/2250mAh-Extented...ageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
but the question is: it is the right cover for s730? if not, where can i get it...
The battery life is just useless on this phone and I'm ready to give up on it.
I charge it fully overnight and with normal use (less than 1 hour of calls, some texting, web browsing on 3G) it is completely dead by 6-7pm! This is without using WiFi, Bluetooth, media player, skype or anything else you might think would be more battery intensive.
I'm often out at work all day and don't get home until late in the evening. I need a phone that will last at least 12-15 hours with normal use, and the S730 does not seem up to the task.
Is this just par for the course with WM6 phones or what?
i just got mine and talking all day it has lasted two so far with 30% left on the original (out of the box) charge.
I'm interested to find out if switching off TF3D will mean better battery life, or is it negligible. anyone can provide an answer? lol
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I'm interested to find out if switching off TF3D will mean better battery life, or is it negligible. anyone can provide an answer? lol
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I think the battery saving with TF3D off would be minimal not worth using, what max you could get, 5 minutes extra out of the batt.
Good luck fellas.
5 mins? are u sure? i remember for my old tytn2 disabling Touch Flo gave me about an extra 1-2 hours
I am using a rom that does not have TF3D and the battery life still sucks
Nah, I thought the same and I switched it off for some days, it give you not really much battery life back.
But there is HOPE!!!
HTC anounced that they will sell a better battery soon for like 55 Euro ;D
I think it will be a 1100 - 1300 mA Battery
Is the battery supposed to be this bad? it lasts day max!
this is bad bad!!
i have removed td flo from home and installed NOGPRS which diables wap, gprs etc etc, disabled phone pad with adv config, changed backlight settings and most thigns that can cause the phone to drain more battery
but for the phone the phone to need recharging everyday is not on at all! what about if you stay at someones house or have a heavy day on te the phone or whatever
my compact 2 lasted a whole week!!!!!! my compact 3/artemis lasted 2 days and now and newer model lasts a day?>??!!! my god this is ridiculous.
my k850i has the same sized batery and lasts a week FULL use!!! what are htc doing?????
all this technology and they honstly cant make a darn battery last??
has anyone found out a way to make it last atleast 2 days with moderate usage? say an hour of phone calls, 10 texts, 10 mins using calendar,and downloading a few emails??
patterns said:
has anyone found out a way to make it last atleast 2 days with moderate usage?
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Yes .... turn the phone off at night
I agree that the battery time is worthless. But comparing to the other phones you mentioned there, HTC Touch Diamond has much better hardware spec. Maybe the batteries had a few more mAh in those Compaq phones?
Regarding the k850i it has a 930mAh battery (Diamond has 900mAh), and you can't really compare a smartphone with a 'standard' phone as the k850i.
I have seen batteries for the Diamond at 1340mAh to 2200mAh. Maybe you can take a look at one of those? Of course, your Diamond will be a few mm thicker. But maybe you can live with that?
are you serious? come on man! that cant be the answer?
il give this some time, maybe a new rom will help with this butu if not, as much as i love this baby, im going back to the artemis and the diamonds going on ebay!
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I agree that the battery time is worthless. But comparing to the other phones you mentioned there, HTC Touch Diamond has much better hardware spec. Maybe the batteries had a few more mAh in those Compaq phones?
Regarding the k850i it has a 930mAh battery (Diamond has 900mAh), and you can't really compare a smartphone with a 'standard' phone as the k850i.
I have seen batteries for the Diamond at 1340mAh to 2200mAh. Maybe you can take a look at one of those? Of course, your Diamond will be a few mm thicker. But maybe you can live with that?
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Starflake, thats a really good idea il check those batteries out now.
your right i dont really want the phone to be thicker, but what the hell, 1 day is just a joke, im sorry, htc should seriously pull their fingers out! a phone that opnly lasts a day, isnt that smart!!!! even the iphone lasts longer!!!!!
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Starflake, thats a really good idea il check those batteries out now.
your right i dont really want the phone to be thicker, but what the hell, 1 day is just a joke, im sorry, htc should seriously pull their fingers out! a phone that opnly lasts a day, isnt that smart!!!! even the iphone lasts longer!!!!!
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I couldn't agree more. At least they could have delivered the Diamond with the same battery as the Touch Pro will have (1340mAh).
I have problems getting the battery to last even 24 hours. And I don't even use the phone as much as I did the first week.
I'm used to charge the batteries every night since i had my SE P1i. So I wasn't really very much surprised over the Diamonds battery performance.
It helps much to not have wlan, bt and 3g on all the time.
Here is your answer:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_gets_a_beefier_battery_users_cheer-news-544.php
More we cannot do for you, sry, at least for the moment
having updated to radio 1.00.25.5 and disconnected the diamond from its charger yesterday at 8.30am i am currently at 39% battery left. that's with disconnecting gprs after each use and flight mode during the night. i check my mails manually once in an hour, use opera mini for webbrowsing, did some calls, wrote 15 short messages...i am pretty satisfied. but the first days after i got the diamond were really disappoining i have to admit.
I have found that the tweaks I applied seriously affected battery life. After a hard reset, the battery lasts significantly longer. After applying the TF3D tweaks again then battery suffers again. If you did apply the tweaks initially, try setting them back to default.
i cannot believe that there isn't even 1 single 1500 capacity Battery... or even bigger that would be able to retain the original back cover.... so am i just going to have to wait until june until the HTC EVO comes out? cause isn't that being shipped with a larger battery capacity then our own?? if so, i imagine that we'd be able to use it as well right?? that phone is practically a replica of ours.. or am i mistaken??
and even if i am.. the fact that they can make a bigger battery for the EVO and not HD2 is mind blowing...
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i cannot believe that there isn't even 1 single 1500 capacity Battery... or even bigger that would be able to retain the original back cover.... so am i just going to have to wait until june until the HTC EVO comes out? cause isn't that being shipped with a larger battery capacity then our own?? if so, i imagine that we'd be able to use it as well right?? that phone is practically a replica of ours.. or am i mistaken??
and even if i am.. the fact that they can make a bigger battery for the EVO and not HD2 is mind blowing...
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I believe I have read that the evo is actually bigger than our HD2's. In fact, it's taller.
ProjektFuze said:
i cannot believe that there isn't even 1 single 1500 capacity Battery... or even bigger that would be able to retain the original back cover.... so am i just going to have to wait until june until the HTC EVO comes out? cause isn't that being shipped with a larger battery capacity then our own?? if so, i imagine that we'd be able to use it as well right?? that phone is practically a replica of ours.. or am i mistaken??
and even if i am.. the fact that they can make a bigger battery for the EVO and not HD2 is mind blowing...
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I doubt the evo battery will work in the hd2. There is this misconception going around that the evo is basicly a hd2 with android... Its not. It's a completely different phone. Yeah, it has a similar processor, same screen size, etc. But there are a lot of phones that use similar hardware. It even looks similar. But there is a lot of different hardware. And it's a completely different model. People just have it in there head, for some reason, that the EVO and the HD2 are the same phone hardware-wise. Yes, there are similarities, but they are not interchangeable.... not with hardware OR software.
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I doubt the evo battery will work in the hd2. There is this misconception going around that the evo is basicly a hd2 with android... Its not. It's a completely different phone. Yeah, it has a similar processor, same screen size, etc. But there are a lot of phones that use similar hardware. It even looks similar. But there is a lot of different hardware. And it's a completely different model. People just have it in there head, for some reason, that the EVO and the HD2 are the same phone hardware-wise. Yes, there are similarities, but they are not interchangeable.... not with hardware OR software.
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ahhh well thats disappointing... but i mean if the evo has a bigger capacity yet it still retains its small size making the evo nice and slim like the hd2.. then what's preventing us from having the same sized battery??
its all really frustrating.. because battery life is an issue with this phone....and even a 1500 would increase my life by a couple hours.. which is more then enough...
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ahhh well thats disappointing... but i mean if the evo has a bigger capacity yet it still retains its small size making the evo nice and slim like the hd2.. then what's preventing us from having the same sized battery??
its all really frustrating.. because battery life is an issue with this phone....and even a 1500 would increase my life by a couple hours.. which is more then enough...
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If it's got a a bigger capacity battery, the actual physical size will probably be bigger, too. If the evo is the same size as the HD2, they must have found some other way to make more space for a bigger battery. I bet mugen could maybe make a 1500mah battery that fit the hd2 if they tried... they've always been good at fitting bigger batteries in the same size of space. We just have to convince them it would be worth it.
lol sucks...i don't understand how someone would make a 1300 capacity battery and not a 1500 or 1600 one... but whatever... i'm done ranting...
but yea.. if the evo has a slim battery like ours with a 1500 capacity.. i'm hoping that some businesses will jump on the opportunity to make some cash..
i use this 1600mah andida Battery from Ebay.
check the ebay auction number: 390184360646
www.slashgear.com/htc-evo-4g-hands-on-2378816/ Scroll down for a picture with the battery cover removed.
IMO it looks quite a bit longer than our beloved HD2's. Hence the ability to cram more juice in.
So how is this battery performing?
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i use this 1600mah andida Battery from Ebay.
check the ebay auction number: 390184360646
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Can you talk about the performance ofthis battery? significant increase in power? any charging issues? As I understand from ebay page, no replacement door needed - right?
thanks in advance
i used my hd2 all day including push exchange and over an hour of video and i could not make it run dead until midnight from leaving charge at 9am. is there really such a need for extended battery? i mean the iphone performs more dismally than this in bettery life and i reckon it's pretty dam good for stock battery and a smartphone with such high specs.
It all depends what you're doing. I've managed to kill a battery in 2 hours once
So.... after being out for half a year... a extended SLIM battery has not been released yet?? I mean, I know i'm not the most "technical" person in the world.. but honestly?? how HARD can it possibly be??!! doesn't make one bit of sense.... and they still haven't made an OEM battery cover.. with a kick stand??!! ridiculous.. the person in charge of the accessories.. needs to be fired...
sorry just a little rant.. after seeing my friend buy a extended slim 1750mah battery for his EVO.... which is a HD2 replica..... the battery sizes are identical... and I'm not even asking for 1750... 1500mah is all i really need.. if i had an extra 2-3 hours of battery life.. then it would be PERFECT for a full days use
I posted similar thing awhile back with some moronic replies saying that there is not a market for that.
These people, rather, want you to believe that it's better to buy ebay/chinese fakes for $5-10 bucks that, ironically, labeled "1500" or "1600mah"! I dont understand why other phones, with similar form factor to the HD2, manage to get standard size extended battery with the added 200-300mah, but the HD2 only get +70mah (1300mah) from Mugen.
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I posted similar thing awhile back with some moronic replies saying that there is not a market for that.
These people, rather, want you to believe that it's better to buy ebay/chinese fakes for $5-10 bucks that, ironically, labeled "1500" or "1600mah"! I dont understand why other phones, with similar form factor to the HD2, manage to get standard size extended battery with the added 200-300mah, but the HD2 only get +70mah (1300mah) from Mugen.
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hear hear. The thing that annoys me the most is the battery life on the HD2, or rather, the pace on which it drains. The biggest improvement would be a battery with a bigger capacity.
How hard can it be? probably just as hard as trying to fit 2 litres of water into a 1 litre bottle
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How hard can it be? probably just as hard as trying to fit 2 litres of water into a 1 litre bottle
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i think thats a slight overexaggeration... first of all take the evo for example.. they managed a standard size 1700mah battery... you're telling me our battery with practically the same size as the evo.. can't even get a 1500?? no sir this isn't a technical issue.. trust me.. this is just bad marketing on the hTC HD2 part.. thats all.
Are the physical dimensions of the battery the same?
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hear hear. The thing that annoys me the most is the battery life on the HD2, or rather, the pace on which it drains. The biggest improvement would be a battery with a bigger capacity.
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Nope - biggest improvement would be a device that uses much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work.
the largest capacity for the stock battery size is so far mugen at 1300..
but its very very expensive.. and comes with only 70mAh more juice.. wth man..
I have designed a solution for the short battery life of the HD2, it solves a couple of problems ive seen complaints about and will increase the battery capacity beyond anything available currently, and its not and ugly lump im hoping to put it in production very soon, the only compromise is extra thickness of the phone...
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Nope - biggest improvement would be a device that uses much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work.
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My problem with this is that manufacturers start making power management decisions for me. They start reducing power output from wifi and bluetooth, they restrict standards on things like wifi (allowing 802.11g but not n), they limit screen brightness, etc. All in order to say that their unit last longer on a single battery charge.
I'm sure that the technology is there to have processors that run twice as fast as ours yet still fit in the HD2 device. They just can't make one that will last on such as small battery for more than 10 minutes. That's fine with me. Make it and let the user select how fast the processor runs.
They won't do that because they would still have to advertise that the battery lasted 10 minutes and there would be consumers out there saying, your device needs to use "much less energy, so a battery with a capacity of 250mh would be enough for two days full of work."