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Two days ago I downloaded a new interface which seems to be working great on the AT&T Tilt... Was just curious if anyone else has any experience with it? I think they released it on the 31st..
www.pointui.com
Hi,look at this post,i don't use it,but people give their opinion.
I have been trying it today. I actually like it in terms of turning the device into a dumbphone.
It disables the hardware buttons, but a quick press of the red end call key and you are back to the today screen and can use hardware buttons.
PointUI
I have just started using it, but on a VGA Exec. It does not support VGA but still works (everything is smaller than it should be). If they release a VGA version I will definitly use it as even with on the VGA screen it is fantastic.
I was looking for a touch style interface and have used HTC cube (various versions), and also the Ipod style inteface. All of them are close but not quite there.
For me, PointUI is there....It is the best I have seen and possibly because it is not emulating other devices it realy hits the mark.
I will install on my wizard for the moment until they release the VGA version.
As a last note does anyone know if you can drop the resolution on a EXEC? Sound a dumb question but I would like to use PointUI as it should be.
Tried it right when it was released on my Tilt. My initial impressions:
1. Lots of potential.
2. Very slick animation
3. Needs quite a bit of work and polishing before I consider using it.
3a. Did not match my theme, so odd color issues on the top bar.
3b. Needs to be cusomizable to use my preferred programs.
3c. I like my today page as i have it setup that shows all the info I need in one place. PointUI is nice eye candy, but does not give me that one stop shop.\
I don't know I may be the odd one out as everyone seems to like it so much.
I somehow am of the opinion that a combination of SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell is a far more efficient and effective interface. Though just my opinion
I don't know if everyone else has incredibly small fingers, but I had trouble using the on screen keyboard with my digits without pressing the wrong buttons all the time. Secondly, I found navigating with the Kaiser when docked in a car or a holder to be a complete bind. Trying to do something like a telephone call was way more difficult than my old Nokia 6230i
I just wanted to say that I am now finally happy with my Kaiser after doing the following 4 things:
Installing KaiserTweak and modifying settings such as TouchFlo sensitivity and backlight settings
Installing PointUI for finger based navigation
Installing PocketCM Contacts - This ties in nicely with PointUI's interface and filled in a feature that PointUI desperately lacked
Installing PocketCM Keyboard to stop my fat fingers pressing the wrong buttons.
I can now use my Kaiser completely from the screen without having to revert to the stylus or the keypad, which is very useful when it is docked somewhere like in the car.
I just wanted to let others know in case they were having the same problems as I had.
Regards,
Rob
I still use the slide out keyboard once and a while but I instead use the following:
spb Mobile Shell 2.0
Resco Keyboard (iPhone skin)
laakness said:
I still use the slide out keyboard once and a while but I instead use the following:
spb Mobile Shell 2.0
Resco Keyboard (iPhone skin)
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I wasn't aware of those products and they are definitely worth considering. The Resco keyboard appears to work in a very similar way to the PocketCM Keboard with a couple of added features as far as I can see.
also something to consider is the big start menu and long endkey.
and i use finger friendly friends instead of pocketcm contacts because it is alot faster.
the spb mobile shell works really good spb also has a onscreen keyboard that works pretty sweet
I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage. If anyone has any other finger usability improvement programs they'd like to suggest free or to pay for I'd be interested in hearing about them.
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I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage. If anyone has any other finger usability improvement programs they'd like to suggest free or to pay for I'd be interested in hearing about them.
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iContact is also very good. Takes of very little device memory unlike PocketCM and it's very easy to use. This one is free and is in the develop and hacking section. No need to install it either...just run the .exe from your phone.
i had FFF before until they promped me in registering... but i remember reading somewhere that the software was free during this time of development...
rfarnell said:
I don't know if everyone else has incredibly small fingers, but I had trouble using the on screen keyboard with my digits without pressing the wrong buttons all the time. Secondly, I found navigating with the Kaiser when docked in a car or a holder to be a complete bind. Trying to do something like a telephone call was way more difficult than my old Nokia 6230i
I just wanted to say that I am now finally happy with my Kaiser after doing the following 4 things:
Installing KaiserTweak and modifying settings such as TouchFlo sensitivity and backlight settings
Installing PointUI for finger based navigation
Installing PocketCM Contacts - This ties in nicely with PointUI's interface and filled in a feature that PointUI desperately lacked
Installing PocketCM Keyboard to stop my fat fingers pressing the wrong buttons.
I can now use my Kaiser completely from the screen without having to revert to the stylus or the keypad, which is very useful when it is docked somewhere like in the car.
I just wanted to let others know in case they were having the same problems as I had.
Regards,
Rob
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does anyone have point ui cab?
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
does anyone have point ui cab?
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It's easy enough to find the blue and black style cab's here: http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
so let me get this straight this is something just like spb mobile shell?
i thought it was like a plug in allowing the navigation of the device it self to be more finger friendly...
is there anything like that?
here is my combo.
touchpal pro (keyboard)
thumb cal (calander)
PocketCM (Contacts)
Asus Launcher (Start Menu)
Touch Cube (Quick Access to stuff)
THis will keep you finger frindly.
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iContact is also very good. Takes of very little device memory unlike PocketCM and it's very easy to use. This one is free and is in the develop and hacking section. No need to install it either...just run the .exe from your phone.
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Wow, iContact is awesome. Blows the stock one away!
Simplicity for Efficiency
Hi all,
You could add s.l.i. ThumbCal in your list...
And for all big fingers and others PointUI addicts , you can get a lot of third softs skins in this thread.
any links to where to get the cabs?
S2P
Slide2Play is also a nice music player for your fingers...
i am especially interested in the touch keyboard
Dialer Skin only
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
i am especially interested in the touch keyboard
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Any dialer Skin Only?
rfarnell said:
I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage.
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Yeah, I love the scroll speed on this app. Can anyone tell me why other apps and Windows Mobile itself has to be so sluggish when little 3rd party efforts like this and Pointui work so much faster??
i have already tried FFF and didnt like it much. SPB contacts work the sameway and the buttons are bigger...
i am still interested in the touch keyboard...
I tried PocketCM but it didn't work as well as I'd hoped. The problem -- for me anyway -- was that if I wanted a letter like "r" I'd have my finger over it but it's so sensitive that the act of lifting my finger would trigger an adjacent letter and I'd get that instead.
Hi,
I've read a lot of pros to deactivate TF3D and install Mobile Shell because of the performance, and i was hoping to hear from people theirs pros and cons and i DON'T mean "i like TF3D bla bla" but an explanation too!!
I thinks it's a lot of storage to be used, or can it be installed on the internal memory?!
TF3D lasted about 20 minutes for me, it looks great but didnt really give me what I needed, when I needed it.
I found it dreadfully slow and fairly clumsy ...yes, I know you can tweak it to the N`th degree now, but still seems to be more cosmetic than funtional. Just a thin flash skin over WM6, and it resorts back to WM6 when you have to do more in depth things with the phone.
I guess I was biased towards SPB Mobile Shell though, as I`ve used it on my last 2 phones (Tytn and Tytn II) and love the way it simplifies and speeds up using the phones. It is not just an improvement over the TF3D but also Windows Mobile. Far more user friendly!! (finger friendly)
I have the latest version on my diamond and love the ability to thumb/finger scroll through the options/section just as well as the TF3D, it`s still layed out well, although I don`t like the way they`ve done the frequently used/favourite programs bits... I liked having the start square infact I prefer the layout of the previous version (9 squares rather than the 6 squares and the messy favourites bar at top.)
It doesnt look as lovely and unified as the TF3D but I realise that you can change the theme. It can look a bit garrish with the multicoloured icons .
The now (today) screen is far more useful on SPB as you can add/remove options.. still not as customisable as real today screen (I probably haven`t found all the plugins tho ?)
I would download the trial as see what you think.
I give TF3D a big thumbs down and SPB Mobile Shell a big thumbs up
Hope this all makes some sense / is of some use, as am slightly sloshed *h*i*c* !
Where have you installed the progam files? In the internal storage or RAM (i guess it's called?!))
I installed it on the phone rather than the internal storage, seemed to be plenty of space. Never normally install to the phone area but feel (rightly or wrongly) that it helps running from phone memory ?? Still loads of room and phone flies along. Doesnt seem to as big an issue as it once was.
hi bro,
being an experience user with spb shell, can you kindly share with us with some skins that you are using?
I have the latest version of SPB Shell (though not installed at the moment as just flashed with a new ROM.
I prefer the SPB Shell as it is alot smoother and faster switching between the menus and the main today screen can be configured to give alot more info than the TF3D one.
For those that like to know the weather it gives you a breakdown of what the weather is going to be like at various times of the day rather than just now (I can look out of the window for that) and even the 5 day forecast can be viewed to see the expected weather at various times of the day.
As for skins the default ones that come with it are only different colours but having a choice of colours from scratch is better than the plain TF3D.
SPB Shell is very configurable compaired to TF3D but still not as configurable as some other Today screens unless like th eother poster said it comes in the form of other plugins.
I have it installed to normal phone memory and everythings fine. I haven't tried installing it to the internal memory but figure if I have to reinstall it if I flash a new ROM anyway I may as well make sure that it's cleared for a fresh reinstall.
Deffo one to give a try if you want something other than TF3D - smoother, more configurable, more skin options, ability to add more plugins.
I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
How about battery usage? Any difference there?
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I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
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I agree with you. But where can TF3d Themes be found?
I have found two .theme files that works and easy to set up. O2 Blue and Orange Lite. But it would be nice to get something like the White Diamond
I think its better explained this way:
SPB can house many more functions. If you need your phones apps the whole day long an need to navigate your small system every minute, TF3D is really not the thing. SPB is very good, and takes care of every single corner on your phone. Highly skinnable, and fast.
I tried it, but you know, it's too much for me.
I like a lot of apps, but I don't use em every day. So I want to fast check Email, SMS, or weather, or make a call. For those basic functions I think TF3D is the best. Just grab phone, Thumb-thingy to the right tab and off you go.
I don't need something TF3D cant do. Well, some minor things, like agenda and tasks, but I guess that'll be fixed in a few weeks
I'll vote for the Shell too: I tried Flo, really tried as it looks so good, but found it was just unworkable!
Shell is clean and simple, and fast. Also, I use a P3600i in some situations (such as when I really want to hear incoming call rings) - using Shell keeps me to a common interface.
These are the setting that I use:
TABS Home TODAY Date
Time SPB Shell
Weather Owner
Dial Tab Messaging
Calendar
Fring
SPB Menu Internet IE/Opera + Favorites
No Data
Fring
Internet Sharing
Comm Mgr
Multimedia Media Player
Camera
Pictures
Voice recorder
Album
Tools Task Mgr
File Browser
Rotate
Lock
Profiles
SPB Backup
MemMaid
App to Date
Programmes (auto)
My Menu 1Calc
TomTom
Ozi
Stock Mgr
Best Crypto
FM Radio
Settings (auto)
I run TLR v3 - clean and stable.
Unrelated to SPB Mobile Shell, my final 'make it perfect' was to get rid of the ring delay by:
Diamond Phonepad skin: HKLM -> Security -> Phone -> Skin -> Enable (set 1 to 0), then reset
It all depends on what you do with your phone. I tried SPB Mobile Shell and it worked nicely. Quite happy with it. It's faster and more user friendly compared to TF3D. The homescreen also looks nice and it has a nice feature where you can move your finger in a downward movement from the taskbar to choose between the 3 pages of the shell. Although the Now screen is not very customizable (maybe it is with correct plugins?), the other page u can change every shortcut to programs and such. It's nice, but I don't tweak my Diamond anymore as I used to. I saw the Orange Theme with TF3D and I liked it alot. The analog clock looks great. If you're new with the Diamond and ur tweaking and changing and everything, I suggest you get SPB Shell (or just disable TF3D). But TF3D still looks better (orange theme that is)..
I just need to find a white .tsk theme for wm6.1.. All I see is grey/red/purple/whatever... Goodluck with this..
Can anyone point me to other frontents for Windows Mobile like for example
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshel
PointUI Home was another one that I tried on my previous WinMob phone, it's very responsive and smooth but it's not the most attractive front end in the world. Also, not being able to see the clock and upcoming appointments at the same time got right on my tits. To be honest I've yet to come across a front end with a Today style screen that shows everything the default WinMob one does (i.e. date/time, tasks, appointments and count of unread emails/messages) which annoys the hell out of me, I don't understand how these various companies have spent time writing front ends intended to replace WinMob yet can't give us a Today screen that even has the functionality of the default one. Is it really that hard to do?
thanks, i tried and installes 1.51a of it, but nothing happens, still standard winmob frontend... how must i intall it properly?
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thanks, i tried and installes 1.51a of it, but nothing happens, still standard winmob frontend... how must i intall it properly?
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If it's installed properly you should now have an entry for it in your Programs list, you can just launch it from there like any other application and I think it then remains resident.
On a related note I found this Wizbar app that seems to allow the customisation of WinMob though I haven't tried this one out. There are some themes for it here.
I'm very happy with SPB software though obviously it's quite expensive to buy. I think it has a free trial.
SPB pocket plus is a genius bit of software because it allows you to quickly select from up to 7 today screens each containing various today plugins and shortcuts. You get up to 6 tabs plus your regular today screen (when the tabs are set to auto-hide).
Other today plugins I'm using are Pocket Player, DevState 1.5 (as a task manager) and SPB Time, Diary, Weather and Mobile Suite (another great program). (Not cheap )
Here are some screens - the photo is a holiday shot from Turkey:
there is also vito winterface which is iphone clone...quite nice but nothing new. i still with manila
This topic may be a bit premature seeing how manilla 2d is still in it's beta stages but...
I havn't tryed Manilla 2d yet but for everyone who has, what do you like/dislike about it? Would you prefer it over Htc Home? Why would you? I'm using Htc Home right now. Especially with the nice Htc Customizer.
I suggest you try it first, before creating a thread - it only takes 5 minutes..
and to answer your question I prefer Home.
Manila absolutely no question about it. Seriously, this is like asking if one prefers a bumper car or a real car. Just my .02 but i think you'll find most will choose manila.
over Manilla
I found this thread while looking for a non Manilla ROM after being annoyed by the screen rotation to not want to use it any more.
Looked cool initially...
it looks cool and stuff but i changed back from manilla to the htc home because manilla had to many bugs
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I found this thread while looking for a non Manilla ROM after being annoyed by the screen rotation to not want to use it any more.
Looked cool initially...
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Search for AthineOS. He made two roms, one for manilla and one for htc home. Rom is superfast. I also suggest Duttys_WM6[1].1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2 rom. Not so lite as AthineOS rom, it's a very good rom and always had decent battery life no matter what radio u used...
Back to topic..
This is exactly what i wanted. So far poll is 2-2. I think Manilla will outweigh HHome once all the bugs are tweaked and landscape = 100% other than the quick fix he has out right now. In any case, they are both really nice apps to have for our today screen and for the authors to have many donations going there way..
Home until the bugs are sorted although have recently fiddled with mobile shell and throttle launcher. I find I keep going back to home with ultimate launch.
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Manila absolutely no question about it. Seriously, this is like asking if one prefers a bumper car or a real car. Just my .02 but i think you'll find most will choose manila.
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Great analogy mate haha
I figured I would try Manila2D for a day and then go back to HTC Home when it first came out in a Rom but from the moment I first used it I fell in love with the feel and ease of use. You can navigate through all the menus using your finger or DPad as prefered whereas Home tended to be very fiddly and I was always using my stylus or the start menu to get where I wanted. Im using SJ's OPAL build 11th Oct now and I have absolutely no bugs and its extremely fast and responsive. In my experience most of the people who have experienced problems in the latest builds have been down to bad flashes. I always advise everyone to shut down all other programs and keep the Rom update program in the foreground when flashing and to take out the sim card to avoid all posibility of glitches occuring.
Manila wins hands down anyday.
I use neither, because:
1. Manilla vanilla, shmanilla. Sheesh, if I wanted a touchflo device I would buy a Touch Pro/HD or something like that. Every second thread in development and hacking is about manilla something or other. Enough already.
2. I HATE fingerprints, smears, etc on my screen.
3. HTC Home requires far too much Today real estate!
This is my setup:
PhoneAlarm Pro with B&W pure Skin (small footprint)
PDC (Pocket Digital Clock) with Alien Round fonts
Sun n Moon
Homescreen ++ (Ex Batterystatus) with Tray Icons activated.
SPB Traveller
TodayAgenda
And then I use S2U2 with an animated gif. That's it.
I use manilla. I love the customization of it. I love using my fingers to get to the things I use. I alos love the themes I can make. Home just never appealled to me at all. I was lucky enough not to have my phone bit for a week or two before M2d came out.
I use Manilla. It's attractive, responsive, and well laid-out. It's not perfect, though -- I find the built-in weather app pretty weak and I like Live Search better than Google Maps. But even with those complaints, I still prefer Manilla.
You forgot the "None" option. No matter how hard I try, I keep going mad at those "newfangled" interfaces - both of them - and end deactivating them after 1 hour.
Good'ole today plugins and Quickmenu rule.
MANILLA!
If I wanted things plain ole, I'd buy a flip phone or something. Manilla looks great, works great and I wouldn't have anything else.
The new ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5 Beta destroys Manilla. I cannot stand how hard it is to customize Manilla (not graphically), where ThrottleLauncher can be customized very easily. The lastest release is quite fast!
MACkjam said:
I use neither, because:
1. Manilla vanilla, shmanilla. Sheesh, if I wanted a touchflo device I would buy a Touch Pro/HD or something like that. Every second thread in development and hacking is about manilla something or other. Enough already.
2. I HATE fingerprints, smears, etc on my screen.
3. HTC Home requires far too much Today real estate!
This is my setup:
PhoneAlarm Pro with B&W pure Skin (small footprint)
PDC (Pocket Digital Clock) with Alien Round fonts
Sun n Moon
Homescreen ++ (Ex Batterystatus) with Tray Icons activated.
SPB Traveller
TodayAgenda
And then I use S2U2 with an animated gif. That's it.
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Yes you can always buy a new device with TouchFLO but roms are something free.
I have used Manila for a few weeks and, trust me, you won't have fingerprints on your screen unless your fingers are sweaty. You will always wipe away your fingerprints with touchs
tanked said:
The new ThrottleLauncher 0.9.5 Beta destroys Manilla. I cannot stand how hard it is to customize Manilla (not graphically), where ThrottleLauncher can be customized very easily. The lastest release is quite fast!
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I'm definitely keeping my eye on ThrottleLauncher. I like it a lot in concept, and customizability is great. But my experimenting with the 0.9.5 Beta didn't impress me much. It still felt a little sluggish and I just couldn't control it as accurately and quickly as manilla.
I need to try loading it onto a lighter ROM and doing a little customization.
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I'm definitely keeping my eye on ThrottleLauncher. I like it a lot in concept, and customizability is great. But my experimenting with the 0.9.5 Beta didn't impress me much. It still felt a little sluggish and I just couldn't control it as accurately and quickly as manilla.
I need to try loading it onto a lighter ROM and doing a little customization.
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Make sure you installed NetCF 3.5, and that apps are set to use it as defualt. I turned off all the transarency and went into the vars.xml and set my fps to 30 (because the editor is 20 max). It's smooth and quick.
PM me if you want the NetCF 3.5 standalone cab and NetCF config tool cab. I don't want to hijack this thread more than I already have.
why doesnt a chef put the new TL on a rom ...that would be so cool
I like having all my info available to me on one screen, especially the weather. I have my phone set up to use HTC home, Calendar++, and weatherbug. I don't have any ugly scrollbars on my screen, I have a clear view of messages, time, next appointments, and weather for the next three days, all without having to click through various screens. Plus, Manilla, HTC Weather, and pretty much any other built-in weather app I've used does not have weather info for my small town I live in, but weatherbug does, plus I get severe weather alerts and it's very customizable.
I hate Manila, it sucks to me! HTC Home allow you to have more things under control on the screen. HTC Home no doubts