Seriously, I've seen it be slow, mysteriously not work until after a soft reset, suck down all sorts of battery..... but this...... this is new.
Trust me, this picture is not doctored. And my desk is not moving at 117mph. And I live over 210 miles from where these coordinates are. You just gotta see the picture. It's been like this for 30 minutes so far, and right now I'm actually moving at 142mph. My desk would actually be CLEAN if it were moving that fast you'd think! ahem!
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woah, must be picking up the earths rotation ! lol
and how did you get a foto of the mess on MY desk?
What GPS program are you running?
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What GPS program are you running?
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QuickGPS, same thing a lot of people use for sanity checking their GPS. GPSToday refused to get a fix, so I fired it up to let it run and I discovered the GPS was reporting that nonsense.
BTW, a soft reset fixed it interestingly..
GPS not supposed to work inside...?
Mautana said:
GPS not supposed to work inside...?
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Sometimes it does. Also, if you get a fix outside and go inside, it contnues workng.
Mautana said:
GPS not supposed to work inside...?
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The Kaiser's GPS is crap, but generally if it's "warmed up" it will work fine inside. My house is all wood, so it is fine in that regard.
I've used GPSes for several years and had the Tilt almost a year, this was not a new experiment I was doing. At least, not intentionally!
khaytsus said:
The Kaiser's GPS is crap, but generally if it's "warmed up" it will work fine inside. My house is all wood, so it is fine in that regard.
I've used GPSes for several years and had the Tilt almost a year, this was not a new experiment I was doing. At least, not intentionally!
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Mine isn't crap at all. It's better than most and certainly better than my wife's Xperia. The Tilt is somewhat different to the TyTN II and also depends on what rom you have etc etc etc. In fact the rom plays a huge difference in the gps and other apps.
MACkjam said:
Mine isn't crap at all. It's better than most and certainly better than my wife's Xperia. The Tilt is somewhat different to the TyTN II and also depends on what rom you have etc etc etc. In fact the rom plays a huge difference in the gps and other apps.
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Nope, it's complete and utter crap. If you don't think so, you haven't used a decent GPS ;-)
This has happened to me on two occasions in the past - seemingly completely at random. Stopping & starting the GPS didn't solve the problem on either occasion (actually just stopping TomTom and then restarting it a couple of minutes later). The only solution was to soft-reset it.
I think I was relatively near to the location the GPS thought I was, I also seem to remember it was only showing one satellite as sending valid data and it was this data that was erroneous (obviously the Kaiser was at fault). However a soft-reset solved the problem and I haven't seen this behaviour for about 4-months.
One soft reset every four months would be a blessing.... Other issues on the phone mean it gets a soft reset at least once a week anyway
Andy
a gps only get positions
speed and the rest if calc from
when it gets new positions
if not moving speed and compas and all that
is based on absent data and if you have
a very poor signal like you get in doors
those calc's can act up
Rudegar said:
a gps only get positions
speed and the rest if calc from
when it gets new positions
if not moving speed and compas and all that
is based on absent data and if you have
a very poor signal like you get in doors
those calc's can act up
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First time it's ever happened, but.. okay.
WM 6.0 ROM/Radios give better GPS performance
khaytsus said:
Nope, it's complete and utter crap. If you don't think so, you haven't used a decent GPS ;-)
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What does your GPS do that my WM 6.0 ROM equipped TyTN II cant? Cold satellite locks in about 30 seconds, hot satellite locks nearly instataneously? You don't get that with your TyTN II? Ah but then you have a WM 6.1 ROM - say no more. Is it any coincidence that MACkjam also has a WM 6.0 ROM? The hardware is capable enough, as long as the right ROM is used and in this regard newer is not better.
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What does your GPS do that my WM 6.0 ROM equipped TyTN II cant? Cold satellite locks in about 30 seconds, hot satellite locks nearly instataneously? You don't get that with your TyTN II? Ah but then you have a WM 6.1 ROM - say no more. Is it any coincidence that MACkjam also has a WM 6.0 ROM? The hardware is capable enough, as long as the right ROM is used and in this regard newer is not better.
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Touche mon ami!!!
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What does your GPS do that my WM 6.0 ROM equipped TyTN II cant? Cold satellite locks in about 30 seconds, hot satellite locks nearly instataneously? You don't get that with your TyTN II? Ah but then you have a WM 6.1 ROM - say no more. Is it any coincidence that MACkjam also has a WM 6.0 ROM? The hardware is capable enough, as long as the right ROM is used and in this regard newer is not better.
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Has this been confirmed? It does not really coincide with my experiences.
The history of my TyTn II:
- stock 6.0
- radio 1.65.14.06
- GPS worked fine
- stock 6.1 flashed
- GPS worked fine for a long time
- GPS started getting weaker and weaker, gradually over time
- PDA Corner Ultimate V21 ROM flashed
- radio 1.71.09.01 flashed
- GPS keeps getting weaker, nothing seems to help
Currently, it MAY connect on the highway after 5+ minutes, or it may not. Or even later. Never sooner. Once I have a lock, it is steady, though. Walking around town will never give me any lock anymore, not even after 30 minutes. Not even in the park, which is not very small. I have tried clear skies. Using TomTom, Google Maps, or GPS Test all at once or seperately makes no difference. My GPS is practically useless by now.
Is there anything that could be done to fix this? I should be much interested.
GPS Glitch report + ideas
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Has this been confirmed? It does not really coincide with my experiences.
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What would you accept as confirmation? Is a long thread here at xda-dev about *Hopeless* GPS after 6.1 Update? sufficient for you? Is the fact that while you had WM 6.0 on your Tilt, your GPS was fine (the whole time) good enough? I've had my TyTN II since 1 October 2007 and the GPS performance has not deteriorated under the signature ROM to any noticeable degree (although when it had WM6.1 on it, the difference was very noticeable).
The history of my TyTN II:
- stock 6.0
- radio 1.65.14.06
- GPS worked fine
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Are you sure about that radio at that stage? 1.65.xx.xx series radios are meant for WM 6.1
- stock 6.1 flashed
- GPS worked fine for a long time
- GPS started getting weaker and weaker, gradually over time
- PDA Corner Ultimate V21 ROM flashed
- radio 1.71.09.01 flashed
- GPS keeps getting weaker, nothing seems to help
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What, nothing at all?
Is there anything that could be done to fix this? I should be much interested.
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Not sure if it's related but one of the causes of deterioration over time with regard to battery reliability, is that the contacts get dirty. If the battery isn't transferring all its power to the GPS circuitry of the phone (GPS is very power hungry) then this would explain poor GPS performance. If you have some contact cleaner or Iso Propyl Alcohol and Q Tips, use them to give the battery terminals and spring contacts a careful but thorough clean (making sure not to bend the spring terminals). You'll also need to be careful not to get the cleaner anywhere other than on the cotton bud and connectors as there are moisture sensor stickers on the phone which could be triggered if they get wet. You could also try cleaning the 4 corner gold connectors and plate on the back of the battery. This connection (along with the antenna sticker) seems to have some effect on RF signals.
FWIW I've had occasional glitches as originally referred to in this thread. I've put it down to radio interference as in each case I was in an area where I imagine there were strong amounts of residual/stray? RF in combination with tall surrounding buildings. My GPS also said I was travelling at about 120 mph at the time. Powering off then straight on again didn't fix it and I actually couldn't get it to work properly again until I got home and after I synched with my PC (maybe something to do with a QuickGPS update).
I flashed to hard SPL 3.56 from 3.29 and now I get a GPS fix consistently in under a minute.
WM 6.0 works!
Kiwi, thank you very much for your elaborate reply!
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What would you accept as confirmation? Is a long thread here at xda-dev about *Hopeless* GPS after 6.1 Update? sufficient for you?
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Yes, thank you for that thread, it comes pretty close to confirmation.
Is the fact that while you had WM 6.0 on your Tilt, your GPS was fine (the whole time) good enough?
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In fact, it was my brother's phone then, and he said he never had any trouble with his GPS under 6.1, so that I did not expect the critical change to have happened at the switch from 6.0 to 6.1. I rather thought it was some hardware gradually deteriorating.
I've had my TyTN II since 1 October 2007 and the GPS performance has not deteriorated under the signature ROM to any noticeable degree (although when it had WM6.1 on it, the difference was very noticeable).
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That counts towards confirmation.
Are you sure about that radio at that stage? 1.65.xx.xx series radios are meant for WM 6.1
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I apologize, my brother flashed to 6.1: I hadn't thought of his flashing the radio as well, which seems obvious in hindsight. I don't know what radio he had at the time.
According to your advice I tried the stock 6.0 ROM including radio 1.27.12.11, and it worked! Thank you very much! I remember searching for GPS fix threads a while ago, but somehow I never found these useful threads. With this ROM+radio my GPS always connected within 1-2 minutes from the window sill, excellent.
But then it gets interesting. I flashed PDA Corner Ultimate X2 V5 (WM 6.5) while keeping the old radio. GPS still worked like sunshine! So I guess in my case it is this old radio that does the trick. I got no sound, of course, so I changed to 1.71.09.11 as recommended by the ROM's chef. Then GPS worked as badly as before, though perhaps a trifle better (not sure). In any case it was not workable.
I think I should try some other old radios as well, to see whether one of those is compatible with both WM 6.5 (or 6.1) and my GPS.
About your advice of cleaning the battery's contacts: good to know, but I suspect that this is not my problem at the moment. Because 1.) I often get seven green bars in GPS Test and still 15+ minutes before a fix, and 2.) my GPS worked like a charm with the old 1.27... radio.
Now I think I must switch back to 6.0 again. I hope I will not be put off too much by the disdvantages, I have never used 6.0 before. I don't care about the menus, I never use them anyway (rather SPB Mobile Shell and Ultimate Launcher). What other disadvantages are there to 6.0? Can you recommend a good custom 6.0 ROM + radio?
AnlCnt said:
I flashed to hard SPL 3.56 from 3.29 and now I get a GPS fix consistently in under a minute.
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I had tried the flash to 3.56, too, but I didn't notice any difference, alas.
I just tried the NIKI radio 1.58.11.07: it works very well! My GPS gets a cold fix as fast as with 1.27.12.11, usually under 1 minute. Unfortunately, no sound either (using WM 6.5).
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I thought I'd do a signal comparison with the new tilt. I used TomTom gps viewer for ease of use.
Here are my results.
Patio area:Fairly covered, narrow view to N and E 45* at best, mostly 80*ish
SIRFIII
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Tilt on Patio: NO FIX
Next I went to the car. Its in parking lot surrounded by buildings, about 45* clear on 3 sides, 60* on one side....
SIRFIII At sunroof
Tilt at sunroof
I used the sunroof because I typically put the SIRFIII receiver in the sunroof slider for best signal, this is obviously not possible with the tilt so I also tested at the console...
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SIRFIII at console
Tilt at console
Notice the Tilt at sunroof is nearly = to SIRFIII at console...
Now I tried one to test the SIRFIII's capabilities.
Inside garage with door closed on bottom floor of 3 story building on the console....
I couldn't believe it still got a fix on there, I'm amazed
And of course
Tilt in garage on console...NO FIX (duh)
If anyone else has results/input please do add.
I am inside the building, and still get result!
randomtask16 said:
I thought I'd do a signal comparison with the new tilt. I used TomTom gps viewer for ease of use.
Here are my results.
Patio area:Fairly covered, narrow view to N and E 45* at best, mostly 80*ish
SIRFIII
Tilt on Patio: NO FIX
Next I went to the car. Its in parking lot surrounded by buildings, about 45* clear on 3 sides, 60* on one side....
SIRFIII At sunroof
Tilt at sunroof
I used the sunroof because I typically put the SIRFIII receiver in the sunroof slider for best signal, this is obviously not possible with the tilt so I also tested at the console...
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Penske MB said:
I am inside the building, and still get result!
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Yea thats what I keep hearing, but I have to be away from buildings out on the clear open to get a fix though...hmmm
randomtask16 said:
Yea thats what I keep hearing, but I have to be away from buildings out on the clear open to get a fix though...hmmm
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Same here. =/
me too. I get no fix inside my 2 story house with no trees around. I lose fix even inside a train that is travelling through a wide open area.
2 stories above me.
For me it basically works every where I have tried. Locks under 5 seconds. Used to have the Ipaq 6945 and took almost a minute to lock and never got a lock inside buildings. I do know know how well this compares to external ones since I never got the chance to try any. Overall very satisfied.
I have never got a fix inside a room and I think this is quite obvious.
And basically I dont really care, why do I need to use GPS inside a room?
The thing that really important for me:
- How is it perform? Do you get signal lost quite often?
No, I dont. I have the same experience when using my old Magician+BT-338 Sirf III external GPS.
In some rural area in Belgium I noticed the Kaiser GPS has only 1 bar of signal, and it worked fine.
- How fast is it to get satellite fix after exiting a tunnel?
Again, same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
- How fast is it to get the first satellite fix after turned on?
Very fast, between 5 - 30 seconds The same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
Well, at least, thats my own experience.
For sure, SirfIII GPS could be more powerful than the NMEA of Kaiser, but the NMEA is powerful enough
At first I was quite skeptical about this NMEA vs SirfIII, but not anymore.
Next week, another test ... 450 km driving to Germany
gogol said:
I have never got a fix inside a room and I think this is quite obvious.
And basically I dont really care, why do I need to use GPS inside a room?
The thing that really important for me:
- How is it perform? Do you get signal lost quite often?
No, I dont. I have the same experience when using my old Magician+BT-338 Sirf III external GPS.
In some rural area in Belgium I noticed the Kaiser GPS has only 1 bar of signal, and it worked fine.
- How fast is it to get satellite fix after exiting a tunnel?
Again, same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
- How fast is it to get the first satellite fix after turned on?
Very fast, between 5 - 30 seconds The same experience with my old SirfIII GPS.
Well, at least, thats my own experience.
For sure, SirfIII GPS could be more powerful than the NMEA of Kaiser, but the NMEA is powerful enough
At first I was quite skeptical about this NMEA vs SirfIII, but not anymore.
Next week, another test ... 450 km driving to Germany
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Nice! u goin for vacay or shopping?
What's the difference?
Definetely holiday + shopping.
I've never been there, so I am not sure if I am gonna like it though.
ghaith_d said:
Nice! u goin for vacay or shopping?
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I find my Kaiser VERY slow to get a lock. Even outside with no obstructions. More than two or three minutes in most cases.
I'm comparing to a Garmin Nuvi 660...
Only software I have tried is the GPS photo and Google Maps.
The Kaiser GPS is A-GPS, meaning it can use mobile phone signals to aid a fix.
Personally, going from a bluetooth sirfIII to the kaiser GPS, I don't notice a difference in accuracy in day-to-day usage.
Fix time, however, with the Kaiser, is much, much quicker. 5 seconds max usually.
sgt-spam said:
I find my Kaiser VERY slow to get a lock. Even outside with no obstructions. More than two or three minutes in most cases.
I'm comparing to a Garmin Nuvi 660...
Only software I have tried is the GPS photo and Google Maps.
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Have you updated the GPS quickfix software? This downloads the satellite positions in advance so that it does not have to download them from the satellites, which is low bandwidth and subject to interference. Even if you could see every satellite, you won't get a "lock" until it knows where the satellites are and can do the triangulation.
I have always been able to get a fix inside my living room. The only place (inside) where I have not been able to get a fix is at my workplace, but, then again, I don't get cellphone signal at workplace either.
It seems we either had a poor experience with it, or a great one. I'm using the ATT ROM.
AGPS (Assisted GPS) is disabled in AT&T's ROM. Can someone with the HTC ROM check HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\EnableAGPS?
On the AT&T ROM EnableAGPS is disabled, or set to 0 and the GPSMode is 2. What are these values on the HTC ROM?
txcas said:
AGPS (Assisted GPS) is disabled in AT&T's ROM. Can someone with the HTC ROM check HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\EnableAGPS?
On the AT&T ROM EnableAGPS is disabled, or set to 0 and the GPSMode is 2. What are these values on the HTC ROM?
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On the HTC ROM the EnableAGPS is disabled too (set to 0) and GPSMode is 2 too...
Seems Assisted GPS are disabled in HTC too. Can be enabled changing the EnableAGPS?
What are the advantage of using instead of QuickGPS?
Thanks.
AGPS will help get your location using the cell network. I will enable it and see if it help getting GPS locks while indoors.
txcas said:
AGPS will help get your location using the cell network. I will enable it and see if it help getting GPS locks while indoors.
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Did it help at all ? Very intresting
It did not help at all. The server configured in the registry is for Orange in France. Unless we find one server that works for us in the US, I don't think we can use this feature.
txcas said:
It did not help at all. The server configured in the registry is for Orange in France. Unless we find one server that works for us in the US, I don't think we can use this feature.
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Yes, you are right, this is the info for the serverIP in my HTC spanish ROM
Nombre: LNeuilly-152-21-109-109.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr
Address: 193.253.42.109
I'll give a try and see if get data indoor...
I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. In fact, every time I use it feels like a cold start these days, even though Quick GPS is downloading data regularly and always shows 6+ days.
Every GPS app is the same - Tom Tom, GPS Test, Google Maps, Live Search - I can be waiting up to 10, 15, 20 minutes for a fix. The only time it's quicker is if I've used the GPS recently, and even that is a bit of a black art.
I like running the official ROM and I'm happy with the update in every other way, but the GPS problem is driving me up the wall - am I the only one? Is anyone running the proper ROM and not finding their GPS impaired?
The weird thing is, I can watch GPS test picking up two, three, four satellites but it just won't lock...
This is with the WWE 3.28 ROM with the 3.28 SPL loaded (fixing the freezes under Hard SPL v1)... what's going on?
Boinng said:
...snip snippity snip snip...
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Usually, I've found the GPS lock time is Radio Based. Maybe try a different Radio.
Boinng said:
I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. snip...
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The only thing that is going to get me off the DEATH V3.5 ROM is a newer Rom by this same person.
The GPS is the best that I have ever had...
The phone signal is the best that I have ever had...
The GPS lock is about 30 seconds after TomTom starts...
The battery life is phenomenal - (it takes about 24 hours for the phone meter to register correctly) but I had 79 percent battery life left after using the phone all day yesterday at 11 pm last night (unplugged it at 6 AM).
Obviously - your carrier, your radio and ROM and where you are in the world can affect your signal greatly - but at this point - for me - the DEATH V3.5 ROM and radio rock and will stay on this phone as I LOVE having no phone issues.
HTH
Bill
Ok, maybe I've not been clear here - I'm not wanting to swap ROM stories or compare radios, I'm asking if anyone else is experiencing severe GPS problems with the stock ROM, and stock radio.
Anyone?
This isn't "which ROM/radio is best for GPS", it's "did the HTC ROM break your GPS?"
I have never looked at the official HTC ROM for comparison but I had the same thing after updating to certain ROM (non-official) the only way around it I found (other than replacing the phone) is another radio. Its not a problem with the ROM at all my good man just replace the radio and you should see a quicker lock time
I use radio 1.64.08.21 ang get a lock after approx 10-15 secs
Well If you are going to be snippy about it. Never mind. Forget I tried to help.
Though You may be hard pressed to find someone who is using the Stock ROM, I believe most people are wooed by the magic of Leo26, ConfusedStu, dutty, and the other Chefs out there.
So you wouldn't say that quoting my post back to me as "...snip snippity snip snip..." was being "snippy" in the first place?
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm just interested in whether this is a common problem or not. I know GPS performance varies between radios, but with this new ROM & radio the difference is pretty shocking, and given that HTC are expecting the whole world to have installed it, I was surprised nobody else seemed to have noticed. You're probably right, nobody here kept it for long enough to find out apart from me, but I like my phone to be "stock". I guess this is my reward.
The answer probably is to try another radio, but it's a funny old situation.
Boinng said:
Ok, maybe I've not been clear here - I'm not wanting to swap ROM stories or compare radios, I'm asking if anyone else is experiencing severe GPS problems with the stock ROM, and stock radio.
Anyone?
This isn't "which ROM/radio is best for GPS", it's "did the HTC ROM break your GPS?"
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I'm using the new (WM6.1) stock ROM from HTC on my Tytn-II and haven't had any issues with GPS lock. I would say less than 30 seconds assumming it has a clear view of a good percentage of the sky. Fix time is the same whether I use TomTom, GPS Tuner, or the HTC-GPS Tool.
Ofcourse if I try and start-up GPS while indoors or in an area where buildings block more than 50% of the sky then the fix time can be much longer.
Boinng said:
I know this has been touched on before, but I want to know if this is a widespread thing or what - since the official 6.1 update, my GPS has been really poor, particularly on a cold start. In fact, every time I use it feels like a cold start these days, even though Quick GPS is downloading data regularly and always shows 6+ days.
Every GPS app is the same - Tom Tom, GPS Test, Google Maps, Live Search - I can be waiting up to 10, 15, 20 minutes for a fix. The only time it's quicker is if I've used the GPS recently, and even that is a bit of a black art.
I like running the official ROM and I'm happy with the update in every other way, but the GPS problem is driving me up the wall - am I the only one? Is anyone running the proper ROM and not finding their GPS impaired?
The weird thing is, I can watch GPS test picking up two, three, four satellites but it just won't lock...
This is with the WWE 3.28 ROM with the 3.28 SPL loaded (fixing the freezes under Hard SPL v1)... what's going on?
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I had the same problem after loading the 3.28 Hard-SPL. Reverted back to stock SPL and GPS is lightening fast.
Are you using the stock 3.28 SPL or the new 3.28 Hard-SPL?
Did you run Kaiser Tweak? if you did I would Hard Reset and try GPS test.
Got exactly the same problemwith the htc stock 6.1 rom. Nothin to do with hard spl etc as neve used it - phone has always been htc branded.
it appears that although quick gps data is downloaded, it is not used hence taking a long time as it needs to download the almanac data frim the satelites instead of quickgps. Ive emailed htc, but i have NEVER had a reply to any questions ive a ked in the past.
kavi said:
I had the same problem after loading the 3.28 Hard-SPL. Reverted back to stock SPL and GPS is lightening fast.
Are you using the stock 3.28 SPL or the new 3.28 Hard-SPL?
Did you run Kaiser Tweak? if you did I would Hard Reset and try GPS test.
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I'm on the stock SPL - my phone is Vodafone branded so I was originally using Hard SPL (with which I flashed the original stock HTC Rom) and then flashed the HTC 3.28 SPL after I found I had freezing issues with the 6.1 update. Haven't touched the new Hard 3.28, but from what you say it's obviously not going to help. I did wonder if the mystery fix in the 3.29 SPL might have something to do with the GPS, but if it's working fine for you on 3.28 who knows.
ardsar said:
Got exactly the same problemwith the htc stock 6.1 rom. Nothin to do with hard spl etc as neve used it - phone has always been htc branded.
it appears that although quick gps data is downloaded, it is not used hence taking a long time as it needs to download the almanac data frim the satelites instead of quickgps. Ive emailed htc, but i have NEVER had a reply to any questions ive a ked in the past.
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That's how it looks to me too - looking at the signal levels in GPS Test etc, it's not obviously a problem with the radio performance itself, which makes me doubt that changing the radio will actually help (while it will no doubt screw something else up).
I was just browsing through an interesting thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292178 - on how Quick GPS works (or didn't work for a while) on the Artemis. There's some interesting stuff there about how all this is supposed to work.
I'm really suspecting that Quick GPS is broken in some way in the latest ROM. If it were working, then the phone should always have the almanac data and this should be visible in the settings screens in Tom Tom and other gps progs as satellites it's expecting to be there, but for me - unless I've had a very recent lock - it's always blank. In other words, the data isn't there, regardless of what Quick GPS is saying.
And a good question would be - where should the data be? Quick GPS itself is stored in the \windows folder, but there's no sign of the "packedephemeris.ee" file mentioned in the Artemis thread. Does anyone know where we should be able to find it on the Kaiser?
Another question is what server(s) should Quick GPS be downloading from - in my non-functioning Quick GPS, the settings in the registry are as follows:
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0\IP > xtra1.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\0\1\IP > xtra2.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\1\0\IP > xtra3.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\1\1\IP > xtra1.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\2\0\IP > xtra2.gpsonextra.net
HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\2\1\IP > xtra3.gpsonextra.net
The three servers (xtra1, xtra2, etc) are also listed under HKLM\\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS\SNTP as Server 1, Server 2, Server 3 - does anyone see anything different on there working model?
Im having the same problem,
Running Dutty's 6.1 Dual rom. Once the ROM had installed I noticed that QuickGPS didn't work straight off the bat. I suffered long GPS lock wait times. I found a QuickGPS cab file which fixed QuickGPS but my lock times don't seem to have improved. Via GPSTest I get 3-4 within sight straight away, but they sit on red for ages perhaps a few more satellites with appear but again they'll all sit on red. until about 15 mins passes, then finally a fix.
Im sure my GPS responded quicker than that in previous ROM's. at the moment its not really effecting me and im really not going to go through another ROM change again to test.
Im already on radio 1.64.08.21 which is supposed to be the best out there. tut.
no idea about hard spl and all that business, not really sure what y'going on about.
Would also like to find a fix for this, as i've tried a few different methods of fixing with no luck.
So it's not the radio, which ties in with my hunch that this is more to do with Quick GPS. But my Quick GPS registry settings match those I've found elsewhere, and I've found the data - it's an "xtra.bin" file in the Windows folder, which also matches reports from working installs. And I'm having no problem with the whole downloading process, that's happening in the background (through Activesync) just as it always was.
So is there something in the actual Rom (and presumably the base rom used by Dutty) which isn't picking up that data when utlising GPS?
Well I think I read a few posts on Dutty's Dual ROM thread about QuickGPS not working straight off, but its a long thread to plow through to find out. S its entirely possible there's a good reason.
Hmmm
well I proved to myself im not inherently lazy I did a bit of searching around and found this little gem of a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375172
it suggested that QuickGPS has a region setting in the registry
low and behold I checked my
HKLM\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\region
and it was set to US,
I changed this to say UK, I've not tested this but I think this might make a difference. I'll let you know whenI get the chance to play around on the way home from work. I usually try and get a fix on the 15 minute walk to my bus and dont get any fix at all, If all goes fine I'll be watching myself in Igo8 on the way home. Sad.
Hmm, fingers crossed for you, I just checked and mine it's showing "GB" though. So maybe your's should be GB (although that's not working too well for me) or maybe mine's wrong, and should be UK?
well I just popped outside for a quick test and Corblimey guvenor if Im not getting a fix in about 20 seconds.
Which is excellent to say the least since i was sat under a canopy of trees at the time and its grim as normal up't'north.
Id switch yours to UK, I didnt really think to try GB, but If its not working for you right now, I'd suggest trying UK.
I changed it to UK, soft reset, tried Tom Tom, no change. I then checked the registry and it had switched back to GB, so I changed it again, closed and reopened Quick GPS and redownloaded, back to Tom Tom again and.. no change. I don't think it's going to do it for me, maybe we have two different problems here..
what have you done about your crippled GPS? flash a few radios and then bare with the horrible fix times, or have you actually found a way to fix this? I wanna know how many people on this forum put up with crippled GPS.
I personally chose the option of putting up with the crippled GPS, ive tried to fix it but haven't found anything. Assisted GPS freezes so i have to leave it turned off. Today when i actually needed it and realized it took more than 5 minutes to get a fix, that really annoyed me..
not sure how i rank with those 2 options but i just keep my quickgps updated and then run GPStest get a fix before then start igo8 and fix time havent been too bad...been using the radio in my sig
edit: i have agps turned off via advancedconfig
bapssystupr3m3 said:
not sure how i rank with those 2 options but i just keep my quickgps updated and then run GPStest get a fix before then start igo8 and fix time havent been too bad...been using the radio in my sig
edit: i have agps turned off via advancedconfig
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hm...but even then that would be considered "crippled" gps. you still need to jump through hoops just to get it to work right. and you have to have the right radio...i remember when there was no wm6.1, no matter what i would flash to, i never had to switch radios, my gps just connected instantly. no jumping through hoops.
i would say your option is that you "put up with your crippled GPS" but that is just my opinion.
One of the lucky guys i guess... No problems with GPS after the 6.1 update. I use a stock ROM and Radio (in my sig) and i use Destinator 7 for GPS. Takes me about 2 mins to get a fix and GPS runs smoothly. QuickGPS get updated when i connect via USB...
dont use GPS on my TYTN II, i have a standard Kaiser for that
Well
My GPS is going fine from the start till now. I've flashed many roms and many many radios. My GPS was working everytime with various things. I get a fix in 1-2 minutes. 3 is really max awaiting time. I'm using A-GPS without any problems.
ROM&Radio as in my signature.
Cheers,
Chris
Hey guys, 1-2 or 3 minutes is not considered as quick gps fix Have in mind that gps fix was about 15-20 seconds in WM6 roms
zalaros said:
Hey guys, 1-2 or 3 minutes is not considered as quick gps fix Have in mind that gps fix was about 15-20 seconds in WM6 roms
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I must try it today once again after soft reset, and i will post my results as i get back to home. But its quite good for me.
I get a fix in about 90 seconds using TomTom or iNav. But if I use GPS Test, then the fix time drops to like 30 seconds.
I'm currently running Death v4.1 and the 1.58.25.27 Niki radio.
alright, ive made the test.
42 seconds in GPSTest, 59 in my AutoMap5 and 62 in GarminMobileXt. posting from Kaiser outdoors.
Cheers,
Chris
Rom: Hyperdragon IIIs
Radio: 1.65.20.29
QuickGPS regularly updates
AGPS turned on
GPSTest fixes in about 30 seconds
Tomtom 7 fixes in about 45 seconds; instant if GPSTest was started first
so... no, I don't feel my gps is crippled at all.
If 'attempted to fix it' includes emailing HTC (and only getting the automated response saying they received the message) and phoning HTC twice about it, I guess I fit into the second group. I've not strayed from HTC supplied firmware at any stage and don't want to. It's their responsibility to fix it, not mine and if they can't they should get Qualcom to update the chipset drivers/radio for them to fix it.
I wasn't happy with my sync time in 6.1 with the radio that I had (i.64.xx.xx) and i just flashed 1.58.25.17 on my phone and it synced in 1:30-2 mins fro ma cold start outside (needed a reason to walk away from the cube). good enough for me.
Mass/AT&T/Death 4.1
2-3 minutes doesnt seem like a good time to me...especially when there was once a time it could get a fix within 5-25 seconds.
I have heard good things about the stock roms, and i ALMOST upgraded to it, but then i remember they aren't as fast as some of our cooked roms here on the forum, and the fact that stock roms are loaded with a bunch of crap and have less memory.
I'm gonna knock on wood before and after I type this:
*knock on wood*
Since using Tomtom v7 extracted from Diamond, my Tilt has not disappointed me with initial GPS fix.
*knock on wood*
the problems people are experiencing and the seeming lack of issues for other people with the same ROMS must have something to do with the Kaiser variants people are using. I can think of no other reason why I can have the same ROM, radio and SPL as someone else and yet cannot get a fix, while they can. I have an Orange branded TyTn 2 from the UK. I am currently using the Dutty Diamond V1, hard spl 3.29 and the 1.65 radio that comes with the diamond ROM. I believe my Kaiser model number is KAI130. Does anyone else have the same model and ROM etc as me and is able to get a fix?
Ive tried 5 different ROMs and umpteen radio, disabling and enabling A-gps - even installing different quick GPS cabs. No luck.
I never had any problems like this on my N95, and everyone criticise its GPS!
hi,
i use now last updated htc rom in french (wm6.1) with tomtom 6.0 and quickgps V1.0 from htc.
Effectively, it takes now more time (1..3 minutes) than before (few seconds, under wm6.0) to get a fix, but it works has before.
Seem that the fix takes now much more time...
May be you are right, wm6.1 has somthing to do wuth t is problem.
Best regards,
Laurent
McGuider GPS
This program picks up signal in under 15 secs
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the problems people are experiencing and the seeming lack of issues for other people with the same ROMS must have something to do with the Kaiser variants people are using. I can think of no other reason why I can have the same ROM, radio and SPL as someone else and yet cannot get a fix, while they can. I have an Orange branded TyTn 2 from the UK. I am currently using the Dutty Diamond V1, hard spl 3.29 and the 1.65 radio that comes with the diamond ROM. I believe my Kaiser model number is KAI130. Does anyone else have the same model and ROM etc as me and is able to get a fix?
Ive tried 5 different ROMs and umpteen radio, disabling and enabling A-gps - even installing different quick GPS cabs. No luck.
I never had any problems like this on my N95, and everyone criticise its GPS!
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I have an AT&T Tilt, I live in the US.
I'm using Radio 1.64.06.04
Im using Dutty's WM6.1 4/29 Rom
I have the Qualcomm 7200 chip (not 7201)
My Kaiser's Model Number is KAIS160.
Now that i think about it, i cant confirm this kaiser ever had a good GPS fix, being that this is my 2nd kaiser, my first one broke, and this one is the free replacement. hm...
The poll results are really surprising me, at least half the people's GPS is fine for them. I would upgrade to anything newer than dutty's 4/29 but most diamond builds dont support direct draw, i cant play quake, quake 2, or duke nukem. most other games or apps that use direct draw don't work either. i still have to try hyperdragon 6/24 build and L26_Kaiser Diamond 6/25. Does anyone know if GPS AND direct draw are working on these roms?
Indeed I miss the fast fixes from 6.0 ROMs. Within 20 seconds I would already have a fix from a cold start. Now it takes up to 3 minutes, its reaaally annoying. In fact, I also found it strange that half of the people here were not complaining about their GPS's. More than once I needed those fast fixes and had to wait for 2 minutes or so, and had to stop at dangerous eek:) places waiting for it. I tried different solutions but none of them seemed to work. And I really don't feel like going back to 6.0 ROMs so..
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to work out if TomTom is actually using QuickGPS data?
On my old phone (which also had QuickGPS) when I went into the GPS details immediately after loading TomTom I'd see loads of satalites listed on the histogram before I actually got a lock. Now when I do a cold start they don't show until I've got a lock. For a warm start they do show and I get a very quick lock, but I'm guessing the QuickGPS data is more for speeding up the cold starts.
Also does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I choose "Internal GPS Device" or "Othe NMEA Device"? Either seems to work
Thanks
Dan
Timed testing?
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Can anyone tell me how to work out if TomTom is actually using QuickGPS data?
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When the HTC TyTN II WWE WM 6.1 upgrade that wasn't first came out and GPS performance fell through the floor, there was speculation that QuickGPS wasn't doing its thing and that this was (at least part of) the reason for the very poor GPS performance and extended times to get a lock. Short of timed testing to achieve a satelite lock which isn't conclusive, I'm not aware of a way to prove that the data is being used by Tomtom or any other navigation software but it might be worth reviewing/searching among some of those past threads on the topic. Theres also alot of discussion in the Raphael forum about poor GPS performance on some Touch Pro devices and some of that is at 'nuts and bolts' level.
On my old phone (which also had QuickGPS) when I went into the GPS details immediately after loading TomTom I'd see loads of satalites listed on the histogram before I actually got a lock. Now when I do a cold start they don't show until I've got a lock. For a warm start they do show and I get a very quick lock, but I'm guessing the QuickGPS data is more for speeding up the cold starts.
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Yes it is. Have a read of the Kaiser GPS Enhancement Guide for some general information in this field but a seach should also yield LOTS on the topic.
Also does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I choose "Internal GPS Device" or "Othe NMEA Device"? Either seems to work
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I had it suggested to me (by HTC) to use the latter and configure the port manually but after much trialling this, I found it didn't fix the problem of poor GPS performance and as far as I was concerned was a waste of time. Given the version of Tomtom Navigator 6.032 was a special one co-developed with HTCs assistance for their devices, I cant see why changing away from 'Internal' should be benificial. In the end my slow fix fix only came with reverting to WM 6.0 for me. I believe some later WM 6.1 ROM/Radio/SPL combinations now offer GPS performance which is much better than earlier WM 6.1 implementations but as these aren't (yet) available through HTCs UK website for my device and I know what I currently have works very well, I'm staying with the official WM 6.0 setup for now. My device is out of warranty, so one day I may try another setup for comparison (say the latest Hong Kong WWE ROM/Radio/SPL).
Thanks - I'm experimenting with radio at the moment and I have managed to get some improvement, but it's annoying not being sure if QuickGPS is really working
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Thanks - I'm experimenting with radio at the moment and I have managed to get some improvement, but it's annoying not being sure if QuickGPS is really working
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Have you seen this thread about Hopeless GPS after WM 6.1 update yet? Since you're in the UK I'm interested to know how your GPS under WM 6.1 with your fairly new Radio is performing. What sort of times do you get standing still out in the open to get a 'cold' satelite lock? Have you tested with that 1.71xxxx eMO Radio as well? I believe the SPL version can also make a difference to GPS performance but I don't know any more about why that is.
In the last couple of days I've tried the 1.70.19.09 and 1.70.18.02 radios. They seem to have a much better GPS performance than 1.58.25.17 which I was on before. It's only been a couple of days though so I can't be 100%
Hello there,
I bought a week ago a second hand kaiser, and i noticed that it already had the hyper dragon IV lite rom flashed, so i told myself, all the hard work is done, go try some custom roms.
And I did, there was some lite ones, some plenty of softwares, some 6.5, but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
So, in order to be a more independant guy, i searched, and i searched again, i found some useful threads that made my gps work (because it almost wasn't working i bought it), and some others that made GPSTest display high bars on gps detecting but no fix at all (it also screwed my signal, and fu**** up my camera, and that's bad), all that by changing radio roms and trying.
And well i am very tired of trying again and again, feel just like if i was stuck in the middle of nowhere.
So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
I'm living at Brussel in belgium, living in the 5th floor, and testing my gps close to window, or i go to a parc 10 minutes away from home.
I am ready to try almost everything that can guis ALL of US to have a better GPS!
This works for me.
neolander said:
but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
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I can relate to that as they are both near the top of my priority list too.
<long tales of perserverance snipped>
So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
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In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
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I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
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As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
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I don't (need to) use that software as GPS performs fine without it on my setup.
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
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I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
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Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
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In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
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Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
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I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
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Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
I dont have any film on my windows
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Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
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Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
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There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
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Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
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I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
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I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
And like a i said i'll give Igo a shot too
Thank you for your interest, thanks for answering me
Edit:
Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
More than enough to go on
neolander said:
Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
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I don't understand what you're getting at. The precise setup in my signature works really well for GPS. If you flash all those components and aren't to far away from the UK, I imagine it'll work well for you - there's no harm in trying.
Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
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The map for my 'old' version of TomTom was on special offer (Western Europe 6.75) so you may well pick up a bargain.
I dont have any film on my windows
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I was just kidding about lead lined walls and metalised film covered windows (although many new cars these days have metalised windscreens, so if it doesn't work in your car that may be why).
Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
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Thats because you've not read the relevant ROM Flashing wiki's and stickies enough to know that you must use a WM 6.0 Radio with a WM 6.0 ROM. I suggest you spend more time revising things in this area as it WILL be time well spent and you'll learn more about your device.
Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
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Thats one of the links in the relavant section have a look at the TomTom Section around two thirds down the Kaiser wiki
I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
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Well you needent. All the details of what works best (as far as stock components go) are in my sig and as Belgium isn't far from the UK, I cant see why it shouldn't work well for you also
Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
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You did read the part in the wiki about making sure you have a WM 6.0 compatible SPL version didn't you (SPL questions? section covers it well). Again, you need ALL the bits in my sig (note that I don't need or use GPStest under this WM 6.0 setup). I cant say how it'll go with other than TomTom 6 as thats all I've used apart from Google Maps which also works very well on this setup - you might want to try the free Google Maps for testing purposes if you have a data package from your network provider.
I got my current setup by flashing hardSPL 1 then the complete ROM shown in my sig (which came with 1.27.12.11 Radio originally) then upgrading the radio to 1.27.12.32, then flashing the HTC 1.93 spl (this last step shouldn't be necessary though if you think you'll be doing more flashing).
I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible. I can see it getting signal from a number of sats but it can take 10minutes to lock in sometimes. I've read some threads on the subject, and have tried Quick GPS and have aGPS off, but neither guarantees a quick lock.
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
WM 6.1 GPS - standard stuff
dman7777 said:
I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible.
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OK - no surprises there then....
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
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You mean like the setup in my signature? You do realise it's possible to go back to this if you read up here on xda-dev about how to do so?
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
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I agree, short of trying a custom WM 6.1 ROM, with no guarantee of success or installing third party apps to 'help' the GPS work properly, IMO WM 6.1 is a lost cause as far as GPS is concerned.
I had the same problems with the GPS, what I've found to work is using a program called GPSToday. there are 2 programs, one is a today plugin, and the other is a program. I use the program, and it really makes a difference for me. If you do a search in the Kaiser software forum, you will find more information about it. I use it with TomTom software, i start GPS today a min or 2 before i start tomtom and i get a fix right away.
Obie
Kaiser
HyperDragon IV Rhodium
Well Well Well
Great News from Here
I Managed to get my phone configured exactly like yours, and god! It is damnly fast, i got my first fix within seconds, its almost unbelievable !
I had it configured like that when you first advised, but i forgot to downgrade spl, i suppose that was the cause of the malfunctioning.
I really recommend to everyone who have the same priorities, to flash back to Flying Kiwi settings:
ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
ROM Date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.32 (better than 1.27.12.11 with WMP)
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H
SPL: 1.93
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Here is the threads that can help you :
For the SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
For downloading the 1.56.405.5 rom: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
For the 1.27.12.32 radio: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Man, you really were very helpful, thank you very very very much, and my kaiser is even faster with this settings.
If i can help by anyway send a pm please
This post should be made sticky for future information!
EDIT:
I have to Warn you Guys: In order to have the GPS working you have to follow this procedure:
Flash the 1.56.405.5 rom and then flash the 1.27.12.32 radio rom, and finally flash the SPL, otherwise GPS will not work, i just tested that
Did the Wm6.0 up/downgrade also resolve the precission of the GPS?
Iam now on WM6.1 WWE with radio 1.70.19.09 and hardSPL 3.56 with a realy fast GPS fix within 30 secs. no problems with that
But the problem is that I mention a little lag kind of thing when navigation with TT7 in my car. The Tomtom arrow is little bit behind with the reality it is usable though but if i connect it to an external sirfIII gps mouse it is more accurate.
So I wonder if you guys also have a slight GPS lag with WM6.0...
in Tomtom