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Hey folks,
i got 2 questions for my tytn2.
1. Which is the best internetbrowser at the moment to use? Most stable and fastest? And why?
2. is it possible to hack/tweak the resolution of for example mediaplayer? If i run youtube movies or whatsoever the resolution is just crap, also in fullscreen mode. What is the best tweak to get much better resolution?
Thanks in advance!
(using hypdragon 3 rom=wm6.1)
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1. Skyfire It's stable and it's fast because they cache pages on thier server so you don't have to download all that crap.
2. Not that I know of so just use Skyfire. It plays videos right on the webpages so there is no need for a sperate app like the youtube player.
PS I do not work for Skyfire, it's just the best browser that I've used.
As far as mobile web browsers go, I find that Opera mobille 9.5 is the best for speed and options. But if your going to be visiting sites that have embedded video and such, then Skyfire is hands down the best. Skyfire is definitely the browser to use if you want a desktop experience. But I find myself using Opera more often since you can open multiple tabs, use bookmarks, and you can download files/long press on pictures and then save them. I also think Opera loads pages a tad bit faster and I like how when you flick and scroll it will continue to scroll and come to a gradual stop (like when you flick through icontact).
Now about the whole image quality of movies I have read several threads suggesting ways on how to improve movie quality, but when you boil it down, nothing will make a huge difference cuz our screen resolution is only 240x320 at only 65,000 colors. So no matter what software you install, its not gonna give you more pixels. If you want to watch high quality movies on your phone then iPhone would be your best bet at 320x480 with 16 million colors.
Ok, thanks for answers.
seems i might install latest skyfire browser..
is there any thread about skyfire and latest versions?
are people using other browsers with excellent performance?
i guess internet explorer is just standard crap then..
about my second question, the movie quality in for example youtube, im pretty disappointed about my device then (compared to iphone, ofcorz kaiser can do a lot more then iphone, but just this aspect then).
i get that u cant get the resolution better, its just a ''phone-handicap', but im surprised there are no tweaks/drivers for it as well..
maybe other ppl still have solutions?
I like Skyfire ( I have Beta version 0.85.0.7927), but I HATE the small view EACH page. Once I set it to the size, I prefer it to STAY there! Too much having to manipulate each page so that I can READ the thing!
Next, I notice that Skyfire is able to bring up images that IE and Opera cannot. I log into an online study website for my securities license. With IE and Opera, I cannot view the study material, but with Skyfire I CAN. BUT... It's too small! And I have to resize it for EVERY study question.
Does anyone know what it is in Skyfire that allows me to view things that IE and Opera don't? And... is there ANOTHER browser that can do that? (In Opera, I have the JAVA SCRIPT enabled) but it's not indicative of my not being able to view the study site.
Thanks for the help everyone...
I use multiple browsers depending on what I need.
I use Opera Mini most of the time because it is blazing fast. In my experience, it smokes skyfire and Opera Mobile in pure speed, and it does a decent job rendering the page. However, it is pretty bare bones - no tabs, no java, etc. But it gets the job done if you just want to read the news or look at a website.
The rest of the time I go back and forth between skyfire and opera mobile. Skyfire is pretty quick, and it is a full on browser. You can even watch videos on hulu - they are pretty rough, but they are viewable. I think Opera has a better user experience, but it is not as fast.
i did some testing on the browsers skyfire and opera mobile just to see which browser has the faster loading speed. here are the results:
to google.com
opera
-loading time
4.28 seconds
-zoom (to clarity or read ability)
1.91 seconds
skyfire
-loading time
1.99 seconds
-zoom
less than 1.00 second (couldn't hit the stop watch button fast enough)
to forum.xda-developers.com
opera
-loading time
1 minute 15.90 seconds
-zoom
2.66 seconds
skyfire
-loading time
20.37 seconds
-zoom
2.69 seconds
i have noticed that on a slower network opera dose give a better experience in zooming but skyfire still takes the cake in loading times. all of these tests were done with the phone in the exact same place it was not touched by any person or object at any point during testing to ensure no outside forces influencing a certain outcome. if you have any questions just post them on the forum
akawings said:
i have noticed that on a slower network opera dose give a better experience in zooming but skyfire still takes the cake in loading times
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I don't get why people compare loading times between Skyfire and Opera Mobile. and are shocked that Skyfire is always faster. Skyfire uses server side rendering so it's always going to load the webpages faster then Opera Mobile which does not use any type of server side rendering (that could change though)
@akawings
You should also compare display quality, Opera is rendering webpages in full 640x480 while skyfire only in 320x240 (becouse of server side rendering).
Since the usability/configuration of Opera is 5x as developed as Skyfire why not use both? I only use Skyfire when I cant get my sports picks in or want to play some flash games..
norkoastal said:
Since the usability/configuration of Opera is 5x as developed as Skyfire why not use both? I only use Skyfire when I cant get my sports picks in or want to play some flash games..
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That's pretty much what I do, I use Opera Mobile (or Mini) for most of my browsing, if I want to watch some flash video, like hulu, I use Skyfire.
I wish the skyfire provided the real vga instead of blown up 320.240.
Now that Iris is relatively stable (Latest release hasn't crashed/locked on me yet) why not take a peek at that?
In my opinion, it's the best one out there. Sure, SkyFire has its uses with the off-machine rendering (like flash heavy sites) but, really, Iris is top-notch. It will be interesting to see if Fennec is close.
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Now that Iris is relatively stable (Latest release hasn't crashed/locked on me yet) why not take a peek at that?
In my opinion, it's the best one out there. Sure, SkyFire has its uses with the off-machine rendering (like flash heavy sites) but, really, Iris is top-notch. It will be interesting to see if Fennec is close.
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I've been quite impressed with Iris so far, web kit was made for mobile devices IMO. The only thing I wish they would work on is the overall UI is a bit akward, but they probably wanted to get the rendering issues fixed first then work on the UI.
why compare both browsers?
opera better for general nav and skyfire mainly for flash.
opera can't play some flash video players like skyfire's yet
Title pretty much says it all. I know a lot of you guys talk good about Opera, but the latest download on their website says that it does not support flash, and that is pretty much the reason why I want to use something other than mobile IE that came with the phone from HTC.
iris or skyfire, opera has flash but it crashes mostly
So which out of those two is best and/or easiest to use?
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So which out of those two is best and/or easiest to use?
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i say skyfire, it handles every detail of the web practically flawlessly, but iris is sharper in rendering
but for your needs, skyfire
Skyfire gets my vote - it has been able to render everything I've tried.
Thanks mike
There's also minimo which is Mozilla Firefox, I use that. My suggestion is try them all out and see which one fits your needs the best. There's cab files for all of them floating around, just use the search.
cheetoh said:
Skyfire gets my vote - it has been able to render everything I've tried.
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co-sign....same here.
the only thing i hate about skyfire is that god awful text resizing, it really makes the page look horrible with bigger text while the rest looks small, is there a way to fix that?
I use Skyfire for most of my browsing, and I don't run into issues with sites loading up in mobile format like Opera Mobile does. As well, I can go to my bank's website with Skyfire and veiw my account just fine, Opea does not work.
I have tried Iris, and it is pretty cool, but it doesn't really do anything for me that Skyfire doesn't already do. Skyfire also has amazing flash support, test it out and check out Youtube with it... there is some delay issues and what not, but once it gets going it is awesome! My delay issues could be the fact I am on EDGE. I have yet to test it on WiFi to see if it does anything to help that out, as if just crossed my mind.
Skyfire gets my vote although when Im in a hurry and need to look something up, I wuse Opera only because it loads faster for some reason - other than that... Skyfire for browsing....
For flash, Skyfire is superior, no question. However, it has no text reflow, which is the dealbreaker for me. For flash, I use Skyfire, for everything else, Opera Mini 4.1 and Mobile 9.5. As for Iris, it's alright, but still somewhat unpolished and it needs a little work. However, it passes the ACID3 test, and renders things quite well.
Dave
I feel like using skyfire kills my battery really fast, does anyone else have that? Or maybe i'm just trippinn.
I get that with Skyfire too. I don't think it is any worse than Opera Mobile if you are not scrolling much, but if you are scrolling a lot, then it seems to eat a little more, and if you are youtubing it drains it fast!
I still prefer Skyfire for the majority of my browsing. I use Opera for forums because of the wrap around, but it is too sensative to the double tap zoom in and out.
i know a lot of people will tell u opera, but I found skyfire to be just the thing I needed! soo blazing fast, nice look and feel, zoom in and out much like opera, very finger friendly..hands down best mobile browser
skyfire hands down!
Im using Skyfire now since I wanted a browser that supports Flash but Im having some issues with the audio. I can see the video beautifully but it has no audio. Ive tryed different vids on youtube and I cant hear single one. Any one have a suggestions.
I have had success with Skyfire playing both Audio and Video without any real issues when my phone wasn't muted. If Audio & Video is important to you, I would vote Skyfire, but Opera is my overall preference for other sites.
Jason
ripinfamous, do you have the latest version? One of the .8x builds of it gave me the same issue, but the newer .9x versons work fine again. If you do, just wait for the next version to be released.
Dave
In my mind there is no perfect browser. The perfect browser would have Skyfire's functionality for flash, Iris's animations and touch response, and Opera Mobile's UI. Iris needs Opera's text wrap. Perhaps Opera Mobile 9.7 when it comes out my work out better. I use Opera Mobile and Skyfire.
Can anyone verify that the Skyfire browser works with the Topaz?
sure it works. The only letdown is that skyfire doesnt support TD2's screen resolution, which makes everything look stretched and a bit blurry. Besides that it generally works
Yes it does work. Nothing for me it doesn't looks stretched but is blurry. The controls are small but workable with my big thumbs.
I still prefer Opera though because it seems to be faster for me. Fennec (FireFox Mobile) should be nice. I am trying the latest beta I have found. Still preffer Opera athough some things about it are cool.
Wonder why that is? Skyfire claims to support touch-sensitive screen with 800 x 480 WVGA resolution. Thanks for the response.
at my device... skyfire is not in high resolution... it just doubles the pixelz...
any tweaks for that around?
opera does not open some sites with layers...
so the browsing can not be done with opera properly...
i downloaded Fennec (FireFox Mobile), but have not tried it on my device... lets see...
I guess there won't be a work around to this, the pages are rendered @ Skyfire's servers @ the max resolution of 400x240..
Skyfire should change this to improve the quality, otherwise, nothing will change.
Skyfire Beta version 0.9 are more stable
Skyfire version 1.0 are more feature
Hi guys, I want to share with you some of my impressions considering the options we have for web browsers.
I personally don't like browsers like skyfire/opera mini which does not render the real page, but prerendered on server image kind of page (streamed to the browser). Also in some cases it is much slower, because some local sites must go to outside servers, rendered there and put back on my "browser". For such sites, the connection I have is much better than the connection skyfire server has.
Opera 9.7: even in it's early beta stage has problems rendering pages, some of which look very awkward. Have you seen this forum on 9.7, the links to the threads are HUGE comparing to all other browsers. Many other sites I visit do not render correctly too, problem that does not exist in Opera 9.5. I hope that they will fix that in the later versions of 9.7.
Iris Browser: so far the best browser in rendering quality and almost the same speed as Opera 9.5/9.7. That's because of its engine: WebKit - it is far superior in standard support and rendering quality than Opera's engine for example. The only 2 minuses I see in it is that first it lacks full screen (the one they call full screen has the buttons on the bottom still visible, which is not the same as Opera 9.5/9.7's full zoom). The other drawback in this browser is it's double tap zoom, very often the zoom is not enough and I need to zoom in one or twice to make the text easily readable.
Flash support: I have flash support under 9.7 and it is as bad as it was before. Only some banners are rendered, the online videos can not be streamed, and when I zoom page, very often the flash banners are moved on wrong coordinates, placed on text or somewhere else it should not be. All in all, its far better without it.
Opera 9.5: so far the most reasonable choice as it has better zoom than Iris, and renders pages better than 9.7 (still not as good as Iris, but usually with no problems).
I can't search for "opera 9.5" in the forum (the numbers are confusing the search engine and after search no results can be found). I am using Itje's Touch-it 10.4, which has no opera 9.5 in it. Can you please send me a link to the latest 9.5 builds of Opera. I really miss that browser. Thank you in advance!
I'm a new fan of Netfront v3, seems a pretty good and fast browser.
I'll dig the .cab out for you and post it.
I'm a new fan of Netfront v3, seems a pretty good and fast browser.
I've dug the Opera .cab out for you:
Opera 9.5 listed here
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I'm a new fan of Netfront v3, seems a pretty good and fast browser.
I've dug the Opera .cab out for you:
Opera 9.5 listed here
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Thank you very much or this link. I've also installed NetFront 3.5. It is fast browser, but it doesn't seem to have tap-to-zoom feature, also I can't zoom more than 125%, which on X1's display is still too small for text reading.
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I've dug the Opera .cab out for you:
Opera 9.5 listed here
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Is this tha latest R3A stock Opera Rom? I cannot remember the latest stock Build number.
The point for all browsers is: Only the X1 Stock Operas support the optical joystick.
Its straight off my R3AA013 O2 UK stock ROM.
thelucius said:
Opera 9.7: even in it's early beta stage has problems rendering pages, some of which look very awkward. Have you seen this forum on 9.7, the links to the threads are HUGE comparing to all other browsers. Many other sites I visit do not render correctly too, problem that does not exist in Opera 9.5. I hope that they will fix that in the later versions of 9.7.
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in opera:config you can change zoom to make links and text better. I changed it from 200 to 140 and it works better. clicking on links in 9.7 is better than 9.5. The only thing I miss from 9.5 is scrolling with optical joystick.
agree with thelucius
opera 9.5 is best for now
iris is good but font rendering not comparable to opera
fennec seems bulky
and skyfire looks blurred
can anyone please make a cab of default sony ericsson x1 start page.
missing it on custom roms as it was easier to get user guide with it
thanks
DatDereX1 said:
in opera:config you can change zoom to make links and text better. I changed it from 200 to 140 and it works better. clicking on links in 9.7 is better than 9.5. The only thing I miss from 9.5 is scrolling with optical joystick.
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The 200 to 140 thing really helped, thanks!
I still prefer Opera to anything else, just has the best UI in my opinion.
Once I installed operamobile 9.7
I completely ditched 9.5
9.7 is faster and has even better UI.
Both crash anyway.....
So my main browser is OMini 4.2,
with 9.7 doin' what 4.2 cannot do!
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Its straight off my R3AA013 O2 UK stock ROM.
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Thank you very much .
opera 9.7 for reading/browsing (turbo : on for text/pic only , off for more complex uses) ,
mach 5 for multimedia
souljaboy said:
opera 9.7 for reading/browsing (turbo : on for text/pic only , off for more complex uses) ,
mach 5 for multimedia
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Opera 9.7 also let's open links zoomed out.
What is Mach 5?