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Ok , heres the plan!!
After attempting to cook my own ROM, I ended up with a dead device! However thaks to the member who uploaded the offical update I managed to get the thing back (which was nice as my wallet started to twitch! :lol: )
As T-Mobile UK are obviously behind on anything to do with this device I wondered if the Expert ROM builders could help us out by creating a ROM on the FTP site with all the fixes in and latest versions.
I know this may be a big ask, but there are enough users like me that just cant get their head around how the Kitchen works so a simple download and instructions if we have to tweak anything would be great.
Is this a plan or should I just go and stick my device in a cuboard for 6 months by which time T-mobile might of got their finger out of their BUM!
Anti-T-Mobile
With all due respect that would be playing with other peoples privat parts.
The Extended rom is given to us by our carriers.
Yes its late, yes its not complete and yes in some of them are below standard.
The forum gives us the tools to open this hidden folder.
Wiki explains how to flush it and how to cook it.
The kitchen gives you a look at what has gone through it and suggestes the best configuration for you know as the new base.
(based on what has been seen and only what it has seen).
In the kitchen you have all apps and patches that have been found for you to download and cook.
You need to add your own carrier customisation to that. Having done that you end up with a ERK version, your own Privat ERK version based on your tastes, flavor of your provider and what ever else you want to add due to the fact its COOL and neat.
So the short version is what you are asking for is all ready there on wiki.
The carrier customization files are on the ftp site.
MDAIII User
I know exactly what you are saying but after my experience of making a rom etc, Im sure other users are in the same boad of "lack of confidence" to risk killing their device.
What I am simply asking is for somebody to update the last T-Mobile UK update with the latest radio etc so that it is not customised just updated.
I notice you have a MDA III cooked rom so why could you not simply share your ROM. You could then be the farther of many happy children!
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I notice you have a MDA III cooked rom so why could you not simply share your ROM. You could then be the farther of many happy children!
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Regradless of the great opertunaty to be the father of many happy children and the option of you playing with my privat parts, which I might even like if I know what sex you are (wink) the answer is and will remain no.
Being chaty I will explain why. (again)
1) The info is in wiki, the cabs are in wiki, I have even added the text that you need for each cab on wiki.... bla bla ref to my other post.
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2) As per my flag I am in Switzerland and T-mobile is not.
3) As per my carrier I am with Sunrise (Which is not swiss for T-Mobile)
4) I have now idea what you want in that rom, thus we need to comunicate, this I am no good at ask my ex-wife.
5) My rom has no BT in it and that would explain why you find NO info about BT on wiki.
6) There are over 23'000 reg users on this site, a few have a BA.
If I do a T-mobile version I will be asked about a o2 version. then somebody is going to ask for a o2 Asian version and my thoughts of the asian version I have posted on wiki.
7) The tool that would allow me to create a ndf file out of those cab files has not been released.
8.) When it gets released you can do it yourself but you will first have to build the rom and edit the config text.
(Thus it does not matter if you have that tool or not)
The process is simple, read wiki
For the Ext rom:
unlock, flush, hardrest, unlock, test the cab, edit the config.txt, test the cab, edit the config text, repeat that until you have had enough. copy config,txt to device, insure you still have all cabs. lock the extended rom and do a hard reset.
For the radio, download, delete other ndf, run the upgrade, hard reset.
No offence intented.
Rom Updating Process
MDA III user.
My thanks once again for your detailed response on my last post in the other thread. I will keep everyone updated as to how I am getting on with T-Mobile UK. As you rightly suggested I have started reading Wiki thoroughly. Hopefully I will not be as easily bamboozled next time
On the matter of Wiki and the kitchen, I have to agree that there is a "chill" factor from a new user perspective. Please don't take this the wrong way - this is not to take away from all the hard work put into it by you and the other experts. This site has fast become a vital resource for me and I suspect nearly all HTC device users.
The chill factor is that personally speaking, I am not proficient/confident enough to undertake the updating process, withtout a little assistance first time around. It's a bit like reading the rules of the road but never driving if you see what I mean :? That said these are very complex devices.
I appreciate there may be legitimate concerns with providing self executing ROM updates and that not one size fits all devices. If you can do anything to simplify the process it would be greatly appreciated.
Apologies in advance for asking for the idiot's guide. You must groan with the number of "how do I update my ROM" posts.
Incidentally I went looking on wiki for the patches you mentioned and found the camera patch and a broadcom patch. I wasn't able to find the battery one. Could you direct me to it. Much appreciated J
Hi Jason
You are in luck I droped the link on my retaliation on your slik wording were for a moment I thought you were being nice to me a meant it. (hehe)
Battery patch is called battery upgrade and fund in patches of the 1.22 kitchen.
I will not write a idiots guide on the concept of the exteneded rom as idiots should not be playing with it as they could turn there device into a paper wheight as warned in the kitchen.
Please on offence to anybody that has had that bad luck its the concept that I am talking about.
I feel all the info is there in some section of the kitchen. and if you read the "cooking your first extneded rom with zip" you would have been told how to unlock, install a cab and edit the config.txt.
Find a area that has not been coverd and tell me, I will have a look at it, Else the wiki motto found in the getting started is:
If you don't like what you read, don't *****, fix it. this is your site.
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For me the Getting started is as close to a step by step idiots guide that you can get to, after doing all that is in there the user is able to search the forum. ugrade and/or change the language of his rom and perform a radio upgrade only. Some read like a road map and get the concept, others just follow it as if they were in the driving seat and get that upgrade, then move on to another rom.
The chill factor is good for us all it keeps our devices working as phones.
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
The original rom in my tilt was very slow. I flashed my kaiser with one of Dutty's roms and its now much faster and already has most of the software I need already installed.
I like Duttys but Slueth has been the best for me so far.
Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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If you really want to let the true geek in you out to play. Try them all. And I will see you at the NExt Flashers Anon Meeting.
hehe,
I appreciate all the advice.
I already have had a bit of a look around the forums now all I need to do is figure out which roms are where and then I'll start trying stuff out... thanks guys
Edit: Also, I have never actually flashed a smartphone before, I bow to those of you who have been in the "business" for a while, but me thinks I might need a bit more time to learn... the thing is, what sort of chance do you think there is that the whole process will drive me crazy? Seems a lil complicated, but doable so far. Just need to understand what all the various different things are for. (I.e. why radios aren't included in roms, and what they are actually for ..yaeh, im THAT noobish).
Anyhoo, thanks again fellas.
If you can follow simple intructions then I think you're going to be ok.
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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That will cost you some true blue Italian Manicotti.
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All joking aside, you'll be fine. You have already done more than most by reading the Wiki. Might I also suggest the FAQ Wiki. Have fun and welcome to Rom Flashers Anon.
Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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Welcome to the flashing club lol.
There is no "best" rom , just find the one that you think is "best" for you.
Yea, the Wiki and Faq here is very noob friendly. I started up as a new ppc user , but It has been so smooth. Most of the flashing trouble can be recover , as long as you dont mess with advance stuff like MTTY .
Try Dutty rom , they are very popular and updated frequently.
make sure you have hard SPL before flashing.
Peeps here are very friendly , as long as you read and research before any question.
Recently got myself a HD (in the UK on Orange), works fine, it's as it came out of the box.....
Would I benifit by upgrading the software/ROM on the device, there seems to be alot of info on this site about this subject but im new to this device and rather confused by it all at the moment.
Does upgrading the ROM improve the use of the phone and if so could anyone recommend a version to upgrade too and if possible point me in the direction of info on how to go about upgrading etc.
I know this is probably covered a lot on here, there are lots of threads regarding ROM's etc but they all seem to be people who already know what they are doing??
Any help much appreciated
stiscooby said:
Recently got myself a HD (in the UK on Orange), works fine, it's as it came out of the box.....
Would I benifit by upgrading the software/ROM on the device, there seems to be alot of info on this site about this subject but im new to this device and rather confused by it all at the moment.
Does upgrading the ROM improve the use of the phone and if so could anyone recommend a version to upgrade too and if possible point me in the direction of info on how to go about upgrading etc.
I know this is probably covered a lot on here, there are lots of threads regarding ROM's etc but they all seem to be people who already know what they are doing??
Any help much appreciated
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Ahhh, yes, there is a lot of info here... I can't believe I am doing this, but I am bored stiff at work, so, rather than just sending you off to read up on the wiki, I will try to answer your question, or at least preface my statement that you should go and read up on the wiki
An upgraded version of an official ROM is intended to improve upon the performance (i.e., speed and stability) previous versions and incorporate new technology/features, etc. Sometimes upgraded official ROMs are quite an improvement over earlier version. However, a good cooked ROM (a custom ROM made by a developer on this site, for instance) makes a HUGE difference for Windows Mobile devices. These ROMS generally are mush faster, more stable, more innovative and more user friendly than shipped ROMs. In fact, there usually is no comparison between an official ROM and a good cooked ROM, IMHO.
Beware though, flashing cooked ROMs is also addictive, and you may find yourself flashing a new ROM onto your device way too often (seriously).
In terms of pointing you to where you can upgrade and how to do it, unfortunately, you cannot upgrade to a cooked ROM on the HD yet, as something called "Hard SPL," which allows you to safely (i.e., without ruining your device) flash non-official ROMs onto your device, has not been released yet. You apparently can change official ROMs, but as you are new, I would suggest you wait on that. If you want to take a look anyway, see the last several posts on the stickied "Hard SPL...Placeholder" thread above (this thread will also alert you on the status of Hard SPL).
Until Hard SPL comes out, you can take a look at the Wiki pages (link is in brown bar near top of screen) for previous HTC phones (Diamond, Kaiser, polaris, etc.), as there are quite a few "Upgrading Guides for Beginners" that explain what Hard SPL and all of the other confusing stuff in these posts means. Here is an example for the Diamond: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Anyway, I hope this was at least somewhat helpful and I hope you stay interested and start flashing when Hard SPL and some cooked ROMs become available.
Good luck!
I am so glad someone asked this.
sk806, really useful info there. You should add it to the Wiki
Sk806 - Thank you very much for your detailed explanation!
Glad you posted otherwise I might have been trying to find out how to flash/upgrade my ROM only to find out this is not possible yet!
Always nice to see someone sharing their experience for the newbies
thanks for the guide.... will make sure to stay update on whats going on as a lot of info is availablle and dont want to get lost n do some crazy...
10x
thanks all so for the guide
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thanks all so for the guide
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No problem. Although I am sure it is clear from the guide itself, just want to be sure that I state that this guide was prepared by Tnyynt (thanks!), not me.
First I'd like to mention that I am grateful for all the developers on XDA working on these phones. I'm no programmer but I know plenty who are in all fields so I can appreciate what you are all doing.
I just wanted to create this thread to see how close we are to getting our hands on the HardSPL for Rhodium and any updates on development.
I've had my Touch Pro 2 for about a week and half now and already bored with it. The phone itself is great, but Windows Mobile 6.1 seriously sucks.
I really want to start using Windows Mobile 6.5, which brings me to why I created this post.
If anyone can shed some light on this I'd appreciate it.
Adam
Olipro and cmonex are still searching for mobile devices with hynix memory to test some stuff.
In short, don't expect anything soon and have patience
what
how do we know if it has that memory so others can help look.
just asked permission to Olipro if it was ok if I wrote a tutorial regarding this...
Uhm...I'll open a new thread with step-by-step instructions on how to help them out
Hope it will help them. Gimme about an hour to write a detailed tutorial.
*EDIT* Tutorial is up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4035499#post4035499
hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.
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hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.
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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve
rosebud said:
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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve
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Perhaps Olinex can make a version for samsung that checks on the sspl that the memory is samsung or not. to avoid bricks or other problems.
I have not seen or know anyone with hynix memory on their tp2 after checking about 5 different units from my friends and family they are all samsung. My vodafone one is samsung too.
it's great news for me
is it a problem if everybody have the samsung chipset ?
just letting you know no updates yet - was busy in real life
what is real life ?
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
SubData said:
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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lol, yes.
SubData said:
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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I prefer virtual pizza! I download it, print it and won´t get fat...
greets
Alfons
Please can we have an ETA for the release of the HardSPL.
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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Q: How long is a piece of string?
A: Double the half of its length.
SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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If you want to flash the HTC Shipped ROM, look out for the Goldcard methods. I'm not going into detail here because it's off topic and well documented else where. If all else fails cmonex normally helps via PM.
Ta
Dave
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Sorry to go a bit OT here but I am interested in your info about Blackberry Connect. I have just come to the TP2 from a Storm and one thing that is lagging behind with the TP2 IMO is the push email, would the 'updated' ROM you are proposing allow me to use the pushmail service from BB ?
Thanks,
Neil
c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Have you tried to change your AKU?
If NO you can change this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/Versions/Aku
and put this:
.1.4.3
Hi all firstly great forums, secondly i am a complete tard when it comes to technology so be gentle please..........
Ok i just recieved my Diamond 2 and i was wondering if you could help me with the basic upgrades i should get right away before i do anything with it and how to do those ie 6.5, ROM stuff etc bear in mind i havent a clue about these phones as it is my first new phone for along time.
Also which memory card should i buy for about £20...£35 i want an 8-16gb, do i need to get a micro or normal size ? a class 2, 4, 6 ?
The phone is from London and sim free if that helps.
So is there any upgrades that are a must or i should definately get before i start playing around with it.
Thanks in advance for any replies and for your time.
Peter
Peter, you better post this in the right forum, this is the Diamond (1) forum, and you have a Diamond 2, that's known here as Topaz.
btw...to upgrade your Topaz to WM6.5 i believe there is an official ROM released by HTC, i'm sure there's a link to that one in the Topaz ROM development forum; this ROM you can flash 'out of the box' cuz it's an official one.
However, if you want to upgrade to another, custom WM6.5. ROM you have to run HardSPL on the phone to be able to do that.
Start reading the Topaz ROM development forum (esp the stickies with very usefull info) and you'll figure it out i'm sure.
Good luck and congrats with your new phone...it's way faster then the Diamond 1, but not as beautiful
Thanks alot for pointing me in the right direction i was abit lost on the forums as to where to post.
Thanks again.