explain to a numpty please - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

what is the difference or advantage of changing the rom. we can already change stuff via reg hacks or cab files for icons etc etc ,so as some who new to WM who has never done this ,what are the main adavantages and how do.you flas the rom and what is hardspl
thanks for any help

combat goofwing said:
what is the difference or advantage of changing the rom. we can already change stuff via reg hacks or cab files for icons etc etc ,so as some who new to WM who has never done this ,what are the main adavantages and how do.you flas the rom and what is hardspl
thanks for any help
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All your questions have been answered many times.
Please search the forum before posting questions.
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The primary benefit is getting updated builds (versions) of Windows Mobile which fix things or speed up stuff. Or get WM6.5 for example.
Then you have the enhanced ability to add/remove things from the ROM, speeding it up or adding more functionality. Say for example if SenseUI ever gets ported to the TP2, it would be significantly more advantageous to cook it into a ROM rather than uninstalling TF3D2 and then installing SenseUI. It meshes things together better.
As for the other things. There are hundreds of threads and the wiki to explain.

dazultra2000 said:
The primary benefit is getting updated builds (versions) of Windows Mobile which fix things or speed up stuff. Or get WM6.5 for example.
Then you have the enhanced ability to add/remove things from the ROM, speeding it up or adding more functionality. Say for example if SenseUI ever gets ported to the TP2, it would be significantly more advantageous to cook it into a ROM rather than uninstalling TF3D2 and then installing SenseUI. It meshes things together better.
As for the other things. There are hundreds of threads and the wiki to explain.
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thanks thats what i was looking for , i will have a look at the wiki

Please search before starting a new thread in the ROM development forum.
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Mui Wi6ard ROM

Mobile User Interface for the WM6 Wizard ROM. It's something me and some friends are working on. I don't think it will ever be finished though because we're not clever enough, (LOL, sorry guys)
The idea came up after some ROM Cooking trial, the kitchen release and also Molski.
It's creating a Program like in Windows where one can choose what to include in his or her ROM build and burn it.
Just start with:
*IPL
*Radio
*OS (why not a clean one, none phone related)
*programs and stuff to include
All cabs are available, it's just combining it in a nice UI. This also will decrease the threads on custom builds..
Nice idea....
Vilem said:
Mobile User Interface for the WM6 Wizard ROM. It's something me and some friends are working on. I don't think it will ever be finished though because we're not clever enough, (LOL, sorry guys)
The idea came up after some ROM Cooking trial, the kitchen release and also Molski.
It's creating a Program like in Windows where one can choose what to include in his or her ROM build and burn it.
Just start with:
*IPL
*Radio
*OS (why not a clean one, none phone related)
*programs and stuff to include
All cabs are available, it's just combining it in a nice UI. This also will decrease the threads on custom builds..
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Wonderfull initiative, there are a lot of tools, but a tool to controll them all would be nice
You should also check:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297257
Dutty has programmed a new release of his kitchen..
Looks like he already has done lot of things you are aiming for.
Now it's only compatible to hermes (because of the use of aChef), but I believe it can be transformed to use for a wizard, maybe you guys can work together?
Also this one could come handy too:
bepe's XIPPORT
To replace XIP modules
Best regards,
EqX

[Q]What Do You Want In A ROM?

I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
Bxsteez said:
Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
Bxsteez said:
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
Amplificator said:
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.

Help installing manila...

I've been installing the new WM6.5 by Davideuck...
Is super nice and fast, but has no manila...
Sometimes i miss manila, couse is user friendly and i'm used to use it (lol).
Can somebody help me installing it? Is there a cab file or a way to do it?
PS. I've been asking twice into the rom's thread but nobody gave me answers, so i ask it here.
Thank u
Mit
I think no one has answered because manila is not available as a cab yet, should search before posting. Try Miri's V7 Premium version (7.1 coming in the morning) It has manila and titanium, so you can switch between the two.
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I think no one has answered because manila is not available as a cab yet, should search before posting. Try Miri's V7 Premium version (7.1 coming in the morning) It has manila and titanium, so you can switch between the two.
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I already tryed that rom and i had some issues... That's why i want to try to install manila on Davideuck's ROM... I'll try the 7.1
tnx anyway
The problem with making Manila a cab is that it depends on a lot of other packages like Concurrence Manager, Push Internet, even Album, Audio manager etc. Without knowing what you have in your ROM it's impossible for someone else to make a working cab for you (without making cabs for all the missing packages, which is a real pain, they could conflict with what's already installed etc.). This is especially difficult given that most ROM cooks (with a notable exception of panosha and johnpatcher) aren't really collaborating and protect their ROMs so that nobody can see what and how they cooked in.
On the other hand, your current ROM is super fast exactly because it doesn't have all these packages! Of course a system is fast when it's empty. The inconvenience is the flipside of speed in this case.
In addition to that, I had Manila as a cab for one of my ROMs for testing purposes, and I have to tell you that its installation is very slow (because of the huge number of files and its sheer size). So it's extremely difficult and time-consuming to test and it's just easier to cook it in.
So I would recommend you to use a ROM with Manila if you want it.

Any 6.5 Roms work with SPB Shell3?

Apologies if this has already been asked before but it's tricky to search for stuff relating to "6.5" as it returns no results (and apologies if I'm being stupid and just doing it wrong!!).
I've taken the plunge a couple of nights ago and started trying different 6.5 Roms (haven't flashed my HD before), thanks to the superb flashing for dummies guide.
Problem is that I've now tried to add in SPB3 as it's one of my favourite apps and at least on NRG's rom it wouldn't open at all, and somehow mangled the contacts as well.
Does anyone know of a 6.5 rom where it will work ok?
Thanks & keep up the good work!
Jim
I haved allready used many different ROMS, Dutty, Miri, some Germans, and SPB3 runs on all of them.
Dont have any issues.
Look if the problem is something with your configuration. Do a hard reset and install it again. I dont believe, that WM 6.5 is a reason for the problems.
have a great day.
daJhoony
There is already a thread on SPB3 in Themes, Applications and Software forum.
If you look at the sigs of people a lot are using wm6.5 roms, so it sounds like your configuration or installation is wrong. Try asking in that thread please.
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Looking for a specific sort of ROM...

Searching appears to have failed me, but I'm looking for a up to date, optimized (recent drivers etc), Manila/Sense LACKING 6.1 ROM for the Xperia.
Could anyone provide some guidance with that? I can't really find any
EDIT: To clarify, thats a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM without manila or sense UI
Maybe you should look at the forum? Searching specific terms won't give any good results back.. These roms basically plague the forum, i dont know how you could not find ANY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568918
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882
And that's just the first page
6.1, not 6.5 I'm aware of the huge amounts of 6.5 ROMs
Bad grammar is bad
Even if there's manila/sense, you dont have to enable them.. no different tbh
check here
Touch-IT v16 with winmo 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575329
List of stock roms with link somewhere http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
Hi,
I can maybe try to cook something like that for you... you want other apps included (youtube, facebook, etc.) or totally clean?
Do you want X1 panel manager installed? Any X1 panels?
Will post a link here if I get it cooked...
-Oobly
the stock roms aren't too bad, but i can only think of two 6.1 roms without manilla/ sense;
norti nx1i 1.04
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022
i've used this and can recommend it
bxsteez lite 1.05
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475083
otherwise, as mentioned it could be worth trying some of the established 6.1 touchflo roms and just disable touchflo. 'pctech4u' and 'touch x' come to mind. check out the rom library, ther might be more
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
Typako said:
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
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Hey that'd be great
So, here is the dl link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/317757034/Typako_21051_r3a_v1.0_nopanel_WWE_generic.rar
Hope you enjoy it.
As everyone here says, hardspl your device first and flash at your own risk.

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