Hello good people,
I've been searching the forums but i don't seem to be able to find a solution for my dead kaiser.
I'll explain the problem:
When i push the power button on my Kaiser, it start's booting the first part, displaying the "smart mobility" slogan by HTC, after a few seconds, some data appears in red, in the right lower corner of the screen, this is what is says:
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.56.00.00
After displaying this for a while (about 1 min.) it goes to the Windows Mobile Splash Screen.
After displaying this for a few seconds (5 to 10 secs) it makes the "empty battery" sound and shuts down.
Can someone help me ?
*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
ttenhag said:
..snip*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
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Will it boot with the phone plugged in to power?
Bill
Yeah, try booting with the charger on. Chances are that your battery' life is out..
Reagdrs,
Carty..
I have had the same thing and wondered if it was the battery... except that sometimes it will stay on for about 2 minutes, sometimes half an hour... but most of the time as soon as it goes to the Today screen, I get the battery dead sound and then it turns off. I am going to try to use another battery to see if that makes a difference.
it's not the battery
I've tried with the power cord on the phone, it does 2 things:
1. The same thing as i said before
2. Doesn't boot at all, it halts on the screen where the red data shows up and stays there until you take the power cord off and the battery out.
It does one of these things, randomly.
I've also tried with another battery from my friends kaiser which works perfectly.
So i guess it's not the battery, anyone another idea what it could be?
Might be something wrong with the firmware or anything? problem is, i can't flash it if it doesn't boot can i ??
any ideas ?
Today i managed to get my hands on a brand new kaiser battery, my uncle has a brand new kaiser and i borrowed his battery.
His battery was full, i put it in my kaiser and tried booting, same problem as above.
I've tried with the power cord plugged into the phone, the charging led went on, and i tried booting, same as above.
Later i've tried with the USB cable connected to the phone and the computer, still the same.
I've also tried soft&hard resetting with the new battery, no succes.
So therefore, i believe it's not a battery or a power problem, it must be firmware corrupted or something of the hardware broke ?
Does anyone has any idea how i can try to re-flash this thing ? to find out if that might be the problem ?
It's not the battery. Could be a bad flash or something. Try to reflash it. Yes, it will reflash even though it won't "boot" as you say. Try to reflash and then report back. Remove the memory card for now.
Also, what Rom and SPL are you using?
Ur going to have to force it into the bootloader to flash it, no biggie. Just hold down the power and camera buttons, and hold the soft reset button with the stylus, untill you get the tri color boot screen. Then flash away! I would flash a stock rom until u can tell weather your problem is hardware related or not. If hardware related keep the stock rom and spl, and try to warrenty return it.
O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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Does it power off while beeing in bootloader? You doesnt have to start the device up to get into bootloader you know. Try checking if it shuts down while beeing in bootloader, if its not just reflash. Another thing, what spl and rom are you guys having this problem using?
It's alive!!!
Finally got it to bootloader mode before it dies and reflashed and it seems to be running just fine now. Using spl ver.1 with schaps 4.30 wm 6 (although users running the stock rom had the same experience). Got the "smart chip not provisioned mm 2" message most likely from at&t killing my sim card from a reorder as they did when I Returned the Iphone which is a rediculous policy(policing); having to constantly contact at&t to update to a new sim. Still, it makes me wonder what caused this defunct in the first place, and if it'll happen again tomorrow or the next day. Reflashing and reinstalling cabs is a Real *****, especially for a pda where people use their device for business and gather a collection of missed calls and lost connections when the Os decides to randomly crash. As much as I dig htc's devices, it's kinda strange how HTC, with such a huge marketshare with pda's, is so quiet about updates or firmware fixes. Anyways, long live the only source for htc fixes, XDA!!
Mine is still completely in the state in which i got it.
Just the stock HTC Firmware, rom's and loaders
Okay, a little update.
How the hell can i flash this thing if it keeps on bugging me with the "Wrong vender ID" message when i try to flash it ?
I know, install HardSPL ... but how can i ? without a possibility to connect ActiveSync?, you'll have to start the device for that and run activesync, but i can't because it won't even boot.
Is there any other way of getting this device to allow me to flash without needing to boot it up fully.
I have no problems getting in to the Tri-Color bootloader, but no further.
When updating it gets to 1%, then my PC gives the message: "Wrong vender ID, please use your own device's update utility" and the phone stays at 1% till i rip out the battery.
ok guys I have the same problem with two of my kaiser's
I can power them up but in aproximately 1 minut goes off, no matter if the charger is plugged or not, it doesn't make a difference
I can put the phone in tri-color screen and stays there with no problem
and I can flash them with no problem because they are olipro already
but after flash them with anything still the same problem ???
so if anybody has a clue or maybe a rom to fix this would be great
thanks
best regards
linterna
One more thing. I have the same problem but mine when starts flashes Blue LED when was good hasn't. I Started few times and it works for 2-3 weeks and again. Best to do is to not use camera. Every time it happends i ise my camera and battery was middle-low. I think its some problem with camera. Many times it don't want to start up or saids that there is no memory for saving photo. Maybe i should flash rom from wersion without cameras.
im having the same problem, has anyone solved this?
Yeah solve . HTC as a kids toy .
Buy Nokia! Or SonyEricsson.
I won't buy smartphone ever again.
Does not boot to the OS
I have the similar problem...... My kaiser is dead not even booting with battery only (not plugged to the PC or external charger).
However when I plugged it to the power source it boots up and continue to the OS and boom (shuts off) in split of second.
I tried different flash and it propelry boots and got windows up and running when plugged to the PC with the old ATT test ROM which I got from the xda threads.
But with the latest roms it wont boot to the windows , it dies before that.
Anyone having idea what could resolve this.
any update on this? i am having the same problem. i tried a hard reset already with no success it goes to the splash screen and says "the device is clearing the storage. please wait" then pings and turns off
r 1.65.21.18
g 25.88.40.05h
d 3.57.00.00
my phone is completely stock and has never been unlocked or messed with. found an updated at&t rom, i ran it and none of the numbers change in the bootup, then goes to the splash screen and says again "the device is clearinng the storage. please wait" and then pings and turns off.
also i have been searching for the oilpro or jockeyw hard spl files on google and on here but have found nothing, the search function doesnt seem to be able to find much.
any help would be appreciative, thanks in advance
Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
Zerxer said:
Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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I've just started having the same problem as you. Very annoying. Mine phone is a year and a half old now, so i'm assuming the battery is coming to an end.
Charge battery, will last a while, but goes down to around 80-70% and then it says plug power in blah blah blah and dies. Then when you charge it, it stays on one or 2 bars for a bit and then jumps to 100% fully charged.
Saw a procedure to "reset" the battery. Supposedly have to take the battery out for a bit then plug in and charge fully over night with the phone OFF. None of this seemed to work for me... I'm due for an upgrade in January, so is it really worth paying for a new battery... hmmm
Ok in short my battery is not charging at all. I have had this kaiser for a month mayb, but the battery for almost a year. I we away for the weekend and forgot my charger so my phone died. I plug into charger and charging light comes on but when i try and turn it on phone boots then dies as it has no power from cable or battery.
Phone is COMPLETELY stock + tf2d.
AT&T Tilt
Any ideas anyone?
I just updated my phone (even tho it has no battery...). So right i went into bootloader and flashed the offical rom, it died at 13% then retarted and finished flashing....idk if it was supposted to do that or not idk. but now it boots and does the samething as if it has no battery...idk what the deal is .
The battery is heating up like its charging...
It remained updating from 13%-100% and didnt die but i dont think it can charge while updating..but after updating when installing it dies as soon as it gets to "clearing storage"
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i believe i have a mechanical issue now not a battery issue. This is because even tho it says its charging the battery the phone SHOULD be able to boot under power cable only without battery....but it does not....seems i shall be calling at&t....
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This is because even tho it says its charging the battery the phone SHOULD be able to boot under power cable only without battery....but it does not....
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Nope, HTC phones and most others can't boot just off the power cable with no battery.
I just updated my phone (even tho it has no battery...).
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If you had read the warnings in the flashing application you'd have seen it says to ensure your battery is charged before flashing. If your battery is flat and the phone turns off during flash (which looks like it has happened here) it leaves you with an incomplete flash and unusable OS, no wonder it crashes randomly. If you have HardSPL you can recover from that, but as you said you're completely stock it might be a lot more problematic.
lol no no my friend you miss understand what im saying.
Trust me i know the warnings of flashing(300+ flashes many failed...happens when making ur own roms), and knowing these i flashed anyways. What i was trying to point out was that it went through the flash all the way even tho during the same amount of time it would have died during booting, the flash was successful but idky.
The phone is not crashing randomly it has no battery power lol. This problem has nothing to do with flashing because before this it was 100% stock...
Are you sure the kaiser can not boot purly off external power? I was almost positive i had done this before.
NEVER MIND. I BOUGHT A NEW ONE. (at least i'll have spares)
i we had my blueangel for about a year now and i while back it started shutting down randomly and didn't boot. so i got pissed and started using another phone instead. but now i want to fix it. so the problem is:
randomly flashing blue light and no bootup. somtimes the redlight flashes too.
sometimes the screen shows ROM but crashes. (no backlight)
and with my other battery i just get a glowing red light or simply nothing.
i overclocked it in the past, any chance the the OC killed it? highest was 570 something but only for a short period.
when it started crashing i figured the rom was corrupted or somthing and i wanted to upgrade it to wm5 or 6. but it died like 10 seconds before i plugged it in and it's havent worked since.
i've noticed something though. i charge it with my qtek 1010's charger 5v 1A however on the blueangel its 5v 2A. but i worked fine for about 6 months.
any thoughts? is it gone for good?
EDIT: i almost forgot. bootloder mode doesnt work either. when it finally starts all i see is the t-mobile logo an rom version.
EDIT2: a quick ansver would be great becouse there is an mint condition blueangel for sale and i'll probably buy it if i cant save my current one. however i would save a lot of money if i fixed this one.
You've probably flashed wrong or bad rom, so the device is doing god-knows-what when you turn it on Maybe there's a way to flash some working rom to it?
in never made it to the flashing. i plugged it in and it was dead. so i never had time to flash it, i died before i tried.
did you have the red light when you put your BA in charge ?
Because in my case, when i don't use my BA and my battery is empty, i need to charge at least 30mn my BA and after i remove the battery and soft reset the phone for restart my BA. This is the only way for restart my BA.
The charger 5v 1A is not a problem but if your BA crash during the upgrade of wm5 or 6 is not good.
in first try to start your phone and go in bootloader.
you should only flash your device, when the battery is full, because
1. the device is not being charged while upgrading, and so it could switch off during upgrade if the battery is not full.
2. there are rumours, that the battery state during the upgrade is recognized as 100% after upgrading and if that is not true, your battery state is all messed up and you could harm your battery while charging afterwards.
Hello,
i have a really bad week. First my PC crashed badly, then the HDD went corrupted, now my Tytn2 can't start.
Last night i was listening music before i went to sleep. This morning i woke from the vibration of the phone when restarting (when i softreset it vibrates). i didn't turn off the device when i went to sleep. it was on a charger. i quickly removed the battery. i waited 2-3minutes, then i placed the battery, turned it on, the same. it turns on for 2-3 seconds, then it softresets. i placed another battery, the same. i removed the sim and the memory card.... the same.
my question is: is there a way to extract my info (i have contacts in my phone memory)? then i will hard reset and i will re-flash.
Thanks!
I'm using Stylez rom with 1710801 radio
Well if you have sync your device before on another computer...you can have your contacts there.
Try again with another battery, seems like there is an issue with it.
i tried another battery, no change. i tried to hard reset it, but nothing happens... ?!?! i don't know why. i hard reseted my phone many times, but now it doesn't work. i tried to flash new rom (some times it boots successfully and works for 1-2minutes and then it resets) but in the middle of the process it resets again and now i don't have even OS on my phone...
Thanks!
edit: i managed to remove the battery, while on usb power (still on) and tried to flash, but the phone still resets. maybe its a electrical problem... i don't know what happened. it was only recharging.
What kind of " other " battery did you put in. This happened to me, I put in an extra , but still not new battery, and the same thing kept happening. After trying everything, I bought a brand new battery and it booted right up and has ran flawlessly for the last six months.
What kind of charger where you using? I used to see this all the time in the Wizard forums, people would use either over or underpowered chargers that would essentially break the phone. ALWAYS use the original OEM charger that outputs EXACTLY 1.0Amps. Don't use one that outputs more or less.
with a little luck i managed to flash new rom and new radio. for now its ok, its stable.
Thanks!
the other battery is 1600mAh Cameron Sino, and the charger is OEM.
Good to know that you solved your problem
So I've had this phone for about a year now, the moment I got it I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it and flashed cyanfox (cm11 fork) onto it.
It's been serving me great ever since, no problems whatsoever with it.
But as of a few days back I found it with a black screen, unresponsive. I connected the charger and it light up the green led solid, tries to boot but can't get past the boot loader message
This continues in an almost endless loop until getting to a 'battery 1%' screen with it showing the battery. After that I'm able to boot it up without problem
I first thought that was the end of it.. I finally got it too boot all seemed fine, battery showed 3% at start up bit voltage was suggesting it was 100%. It flashed to 100% later.
Good, no problem until then. But when leaving it over night to charge and disconnecting it from the charger this morning it turned off again. And now it's back in the bootloop when on charger :crying:
also important to mention is that when it crashes and gets into the bootloop on charger(0% battery and all) it was at 50-100% before the crash.
If anyone has any ideas what might be the cause I'd be very thankful
Main problem(s):
-random crashes instantly rendering battery % as 0 while there is still charge
-getting atrix hd to turn on at <1% battery
Some maybe useful information:
-it does say 'battery OK' in fastboot while connected to the wallcharger
-after I get it to boot it will run just fine on battery and charge as normal, but will crash/brick again after some time
-I can get into boot selection screen and fastboot, but only on wallcharger
-I cannot get to fastboot when connected to use, pc doesn't see the phone
-It won't boot past the bootloader('Motorola logo' for you on not unlocked bootloaders) no matter the boot selection(recovery, bp tools etc)
-This is a second hand model already in use by me (the second owner) for over a year now
-no custom kernel, only rom, cyanfox 4.4.2 (cm11 based)
-the few times it got past the bootloop and I was able to boot was on my aftermarket charger (stock charger will make the green led light up but no proof of being able to get past bootloop over time on it)
I've had dead batteries before.. and since It looked good last time I got it on (it won't go on at all now) I was skeptic about the battery being dead. But a quick test of the multimeter gives me <1v :crying:
I know batteries can be drained pretty bad.. but this just seems a bit extreme.. I'll try to get it to boot for a while.
Thanks in advance for any helpful solutions or ideas on the matter
EDIT: Got it on again last night, turned off this morning when pulling out the charger, was at 100%. Checked battery and again read around 1V.
blaming the battery, ordered a new one just in case, should be here in a month or so. Still open for suggestions on the matter
Catblaster said:
I've had dead batteries before.. and since It looked good last time I got it on (it won't go on at all now) I was skeptic about the battery being dead. But a quick test of the multimeter gives me <1v :crying:
I know batteries can be drained pretty bad.. but this just seems a bit extreme.. I'll try to get it to boot for a while.
Thanks in advance for any helpful solutions or ideas on the matter
EDIT: Got it on again last night, turned off this morning when pulling out the charger, was at 100%. Checked battery and again read around 1V.
blaming the battery, ordered a new one just in case, should be here in a month or so. Still open for suggestions on the matter
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Did you fix it somehow in the end?
My Atrix HD freezes after several minutes(sometimes even on wall charger). Bought new battery, tried to reset everything: usb storage, cash, system, factory reset. Went back to ROM I was using before(stable) but didn't help.
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Did you fix it somehow in the end?
My Atrix HD freezes after several minutes(sometimes even on wall charger). Bought new battery, tried to reset everything: usb storage, cash, system, factory reset. Went back to ROM I was using before(stable) but didn't help.
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It ended up being the battery, all problems were gone after I changed the battery.
Which in the end wasn't so bad because I'd been wanting to upgrade my eb20 to an eb40
No Idea to what it could be in your case.
Everything working appart from that? no battery hickups or things not working properly?
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It ended up being the battery, all problems were gone after I changed the battery.
Which in the end wasn't so bad because I'd been wanting to upgrade my eb20 to an eb40
No Idea to what it could be in your case.
Everything working appart from that? no battery hickups or things not working properly?
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"0% battery after crashes" that is what was happening in the begging, so I thought it is the battery. I changed it to UB40
but everything's got worse. With the new battery I have crashes even when the battery is almost full.(but not always, for example I can play movie from youtube normally, but when I try to send sms or something else it crashes ).
Hard to believe that there is something with the new battery(I have it just one week+It took a month to ship from ebay).
I tried to flash another ROM, but still have freezes.
Last thing sometimes battery charges normally but then suddenly jumps to ~100%. Now I try to flash Stock ROM, but eventually soft bricked the phone. (+had "battery low" in fastboot, while charging animation was saying 100%)
Where did you buy EB40?
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It turned out that EB40 battery was bad, after replacing it with another one everything work