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I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC. Phone was off so no problems. I reinsert the SD card and reboot. Now although I'm absolutely sure the card was fully inserted, once the phone fully booted I had the "SD Card removed" icon in the corner and everything started to force close. So I quickly shut the phone off, made sure the card was fully in, and rebooted again. it loaded up again, and while the no SD Card removed error was gone, I was still getting FC's left and right and apparently have no gps, no wifi, and no 3g. So I once again rebooted into recovery, ran the fix permissions and rebooted. Again, booted up and FC's everywhere. So now about 90% of my apps FC on launch (either actual launch of the phone or by pressing the icon), I can't activate WiFi or GPS, and I have no data/3g. What happened and how can I fix this? Thank you so much in advance for your help.
Edit: After a little more fiddling, I find that I can't change any settings. I can't set screen timeout, notification levels, so on and so forth. What happened?
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I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC. Phone was off so no problems. I reinsert the SD card and reboot. Now although I'm absolutely sure the card was fully inserted, once the phone fully booted I had the "SD Card removed" icon in the corner and everything started to force close. So I quickly shut the phone off, made sure the card was fully in, and rebooted again. it loaded up again, and while the no SD Card removed error was gone, I was still getting FC's left and right and apparently have no gps, no wifi, and no 3g. So I once again rebooted into recovery, ran the fix permissions and rebooted. Again, booted up and FC's everywhere. So now about 90% of my apps FC on launch (either actual launch of the phone or by pressing the icon), I can't activate WiFi or GPS, and I have no data/3g. What happened and how can I fix this? Thank you so much in advance for your help.
Edit: After a little more fiddling, I find that I can't change any settings. I can't set screen timeout, notification levels, so on and so forth. What happened?
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Tried repairing ext file systems?
FatBoyExtraordinaire said:
I seem to have done some real damage to my phone and I could definitely use the help of fellow XDA'ers. I took my memory card out to put some files on my PC.
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Windoze no doubt. Windoze is HOSTILE to non-MS filesystems and WILL attempt to destroy them.
Other possibility is that you simply didn't click the card in all the way.
Anyways, what has happened is that your phone booted up and was missing a ton of applications that it was expecting. It therefore irreparably destroyed your package configuration.
You MIGHT be able to salvage it if you have a recent backup of the file /data/system/packages.xml.
Try restoring that file, syncing the filesystem, and rebooting via 3-finger-salute INTO RECOVERY ***IMMEDIATELY*** after syncing. Then do a fix permissions and reboot normally.
... and cross your fingers.
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Tried repairing ext file systems?
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I did that, but it was a no go. Everything still FC'd, couldn't change any setings, and it says my phone doesn't have internet permission, so anything requiring data access doesn't work.
lbcoder said:
Windoze no doubt. Windoze is HOSTILE to non-MS filesystems and WILL attempt to destroy them.
Other possibility is that you simply didn't click the card in all the way.
Anyways, what has happened is that your phone booted up and was missing a ton of applications that it was expecting. It therefore irreparably destroyed your package configuration.
You MIGHT be able to salvage it if you have a recent backup of the file /data/system/packages.xml.
Try restoring that file, syncing the filesystem, and rebooting via 3-finger-salute INTO RECOVERY ***IMMEDIATELY*** after syncing. Then do a fix permissions and reboot normally.
... and cross your fingers.
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I'm guessing I didn't click it all the way in because I have done this 100's of times before and it never happened. Unfortunately, I don't have a recent back up of that file so it's sounding like i am screwed. Would i be able to just wipe the phone, the ext, the cache and start over from scratch?
It seems I may be out of the woods. It's going to be a tedious solution, but at least I won't have to wipe anything or unroot or so on. Basically I have to uninstall and then reinstall everything to end the FC's and restore settings and data. It was actually the Maps update that helped me figure this out. I got the notification that there was an update so i followed it and upgraded. The fact that it notified me and then allowed me to download the new version told me the net was working. I also had another app that needed to be updated that was also fc'ing. So i upgraded that app and viola, no more fc and the 3g was working. So i uninstalled other apps that were giving me trouble with settings and data like Quick Settings and Tweetcaster, reinstalled and now I'm good money. I've got 144 apps installed so it's gonna take a few hours, but it's worth it to have my phone back. Thanks again for the advice.
i got a few questions...
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
1) I assume you mean 36 MB of RAM available? Not internal memory? If so, yes that is actually very good, I average less than 25 and tend to stay under 20 MB
2) There are ROMs on the G1 going all the way up to 2.2, I for one have chosen to stick to 1.6 because, I know many people will disagree with me on this, but I simply just believe the G1's hardware wasn't really meant to go anywhere above 1.6. 2.2 and anything above 1.6 in my opinion is a bit too slow and cumbersome for me. I believe you should make the move to 1.6, maybe SuperD which is what I have been using for half a year now. 1.6 more closely integrates the search function and search tools, when you upgrade to 1.6 you will quickly see what I mean by that and it tends to cause a bit of lag and takes a large chunk of memory, though it is more convenient.
3) Well... you can use it for ADB (Android Debug Bridge). You can use it with Android ScreenCast, which is a program that allows you to use your G1 from your computer as long as it is connected to your phone, you can see whats on the screen, click, etc.
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I don't know if you have rooted your phone or not, but you will definitely need to do that first. Find instruction for that, there are only like a couple dozen threads telling how on XDA.
Find your ROM, again I recommend a 1.6 ROM, but feel free to give 2.2 a try and see if you like it. Install it, do be careful and read the instructions very carefully, especially when it comes to flashing a new radio image, you can brick your phone rendering it unusable.
So just look those things up, follow instructions carefully, reread everything in the instructions before doing anything and of course, in the case you do mess up, I can't be held responsible, I just provided you with a start. Best of luck!
there was an update to 1.6 so im on 1.6 now
since the g1 appears to have a limited amount of ram, is apps2sd worth it, say if i get a class 6 sd card of newegg, how difficult is it to install apps to the sd, and what is the performance
will the sd card deteriorate over time and lose performance?
i just want to put together the most efficient longest lasting setup
btw my i was checking my ram i guess through the task manager app, my free internal memory is like 50+mb..i dont see the point of an sd card if its not even being used, so running apps off the sd is what interests me, i dont have much other reasons to root
RAM really doesn't have that much to do with Apps2SD. I believe you should go ahead with the Apps2SD, but it really depends on how many applications you have. If you have anymore than 30 or so applications, you should go with Apps2SD. I for one am not certain about the effects of low internal memory, except that it gives you an alert every once in a while. My phone has "grown up" with Apps2SD from the start, so I don't have much experience on how a phone runs without it. The thing with Apps2SD is that it might be a hair slower than storing in internal memory, but that is a given. I use a Class 4 SD card and it still runs really nicely, a Class 6 SD card should definitely be good.
The lifetime of an SD card is pretty dicey, it really depends. SD cards have a certain amount of read and write cycles they can do before they finally kill over. Using Apps2SD will be a bit more harder on the SD card, especially if you use a Swap partition too. I use both, and my SD card is still working even a year and a half later.
One benefit, though I don't know how much this means to you, more internal storage data gives you more storage for system applications, such as for Contacts, text messages, etc.
A word of warning though, as using these features like Swap and Apps2SD does put more work on the SD card, the chance of error and corruption on the card itself increases a bit too. So far, I have had two instances in the year and a half where my SD card simply just blanked out. The first time around I lost everything that was on it, music, pictures and all my applications and application data and my phone could no longer boot (this was an issue with older ROMs back in the day of Android 1.0 and when everyone though Cupcake was a myth, when running Apps2SD, the phones would need the SD card to boot, it is no longer a problem). Just a suggestion, backup what is on your SD card every once in a while. I don't mean to scare you with that, it is extremely rare for that to happen, I believe I was just unlucky.
With Apps2SD, I actually feel a lot more free on my phone. I can install tons of applications and not have to worry about running out of memory, I have over 100 applications installed, which the internal memory (because of the applications I have) can't even hold.
So to wrap it up, I apologize for the long winded explanations, I say go Apps2SD, it really is worth it. Most of the ROMs today support automatic Apps2SD, whenever you install an application it just automatically goes onto your Ext3 partition. (Yes, you will need to repartition your SD card to have an Ext3 partition as well as a Swap partition if you want, this can be done really easily with Amon's Recovery Image.) In some ROMs, you can just go to the settings/ Spare Parts section and check Apps2SD.
so basically app2sd has only to do with the internal memory...it will not help free the ram even with a swap drive, is this what your saying correct
it will help only with installed applications
Yes that is correct, Apps2SD is designed to keep internal storage memory free and open for other things like text messages, call logs, internet data (cache, cookies, etc) and cache data for other applications like Google Maps and the Android Market.
where are the text messages stored by default, in the internal memory or the sim card, cause my old phone could hold only 25 messages in the sim card, how does this work on here
Messages are stored in internal memory and no where else, they can be moved to the SIM card with other applications, though space is extremely limited there.
hitman3x said:
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
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This is a linux based system.. "free" memory is pretty much meaningless. Stop worrying about it. Task manager apps are a waste of time and actually cause a lot of problems in android.
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2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
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Why don't you root your phone and find that out for yourself? Everyone has their own favourite build so you won't get many meaningful answers here.
hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable
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Err.. I don't know.. lace your shoes with it? That's an odd question.
hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
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Well once rooted, with most roms you can tether your pc to your phone for internet access (using the phone as a modem so to speak). useful if you are in dire need of internet access using a pc/laptop with no current available wired connection.
alright i figured most of this out i tried thedudes lite and dwang 1.17.1 build
the only problem i have is any build on donut (1.6) makes my camera not work the camera closes unexpectedly all the time (full wipe)
on cupcake its completely fine
First off: Motorola Droid running CM 6.1
So I've searched around, and everything I've found seems to be missing an aspect of what's happening with me, so I figured I'd just go ahead and start a thread and ask.
Basically, my SD card has been working on and off. It started one day when I turned off my phone and then turned it on later. The SD card was in and I could access it via Root Explorer, where I could see everything, but none of the apps were working at all. Restarting phone did nothing. I turned it off, pulled out the battery and pulled the SD card out, blew it out a little, put it back in, turned it back on, and it seemed to work as normal. I wondered if my problem was gone, so I restarted again, and same problem, no apps. I finally got it back on with the apps on the SD card working, but now, I can't mount it on my computer via USB. When I plug it in, it says drivers were installed and device is ready to use, and it starts charging, but there is no notification on the phone to mount the SD card. On top of that, I can't seem to install anything or update anything through the market, and I'm not entirely sure all of my apps that are on my SD card are there, but I can't be positive, because all of the ones I most use are. I'm sure that if I restart my phone, the same thing will happen again, so at the moment, I'm fine that my apps are working, but there are times when I need to mount my SD card to transfer files and such. Like I mentioned, I did search, and the closest thing I found was USB Brick which seems to be solely focused on the HTC Desire, but still seems to miss some aspects of this, mainly, no one mentioning that they could access their SD card while the apps weren't working. This makes me think it may be some sort of problem with the system or perhaps something wrong with android_secure or Android on my SD card. (Maybe an app on there messing something up?)
Any help would be appreciated. If this is a dupe thread, I'm sorry. If you could point me where I need to go, I'll go there and this thread can be deleted or closed.
Hi all
Ever since upgrading to 2.3.3 I've been having random freezes that usually end up in needing a battery pull or pressing down on the power button until the phone reboots itself. This is with Darky's 10.1, although I don't think it's related to the "Darky parts" of the ROM itself, but something more to do with the OS.
Also, I've felt that the phone sometimes slows down. It doesn't feel like the original lag on 2.1, but rather feels like something's eating up CPU power. This will happen on ANY application, and even when moving through homescreens on TW Launcher or ADW Launcher.
Another thing of note is that it seems to be the UI or input process that hangs or dies or something. Because whatever's running keeps running I just can't make the phone respond to touch or any of the hard buttons. For example, today I was playing Age of Wind (sweet game, check it out) and after like 10 seconds of the game stuttering, the phone stopped responding, but my ship just kept going forward and the other ships were trying to keep up with me. Sounds and music kept going. And after 30 seconds of "inactivity", the screen went to sleep. As you can see everything's normal except there's no input.
So what I'd like is for ideas on how to fix or figure out what's wrong. I'm somewhat tech-savvy so I wouldn't be scared of using adb or some other debugging tool. So far I've not been able to figure out what's wrong because all the logs start over whenever I reboot the phone.
So, any ideas? Any additional information that would be useful?
Edit and update: I've changed the title because this has already happened on different custom ROM's, including Darky and Criskelo.
I have now tested for 5 days on Criskelo's ROM (based on 2.3.4) and it will happen also. So far what I've noticed both on Darky's and on Criskelo's ROMs:
- The phone will work perfectly for about 4-5 days
- On the 4th day it will start stuttering and lagging. That's when I know it's very close to locking up.
- On the 4th day it will maybe lock up once in a day
- After the 4th day it will start locking up up to three times a day
- The lock-up is at the UI level. Applications will keep running, it will ring if you call it, notification sounds are still alive, the screen will turn off normally after 30 seconds or whatever timeout you set up. But input is totally dead.
- When it locks up, both soft-buttons will light up and stay lit.
Possible causes:
- Something related to USB storage or SD card storage. Someone mentioned that it might be caused by the "fast media scanner". It's possible, because on one of my many tests, instead of reinstalling an OS, I formatted the minisd, the internal sd and phone storage and the phone was fine for 4-5 days and then it started doing screwy stuff again. This reinforces the theory that it's something to do with storage. My guess is the OS itself starts degrading the filesystem or handles or something. And my suspicion is that it's something in the /system/dbdata or /cache partitions, not the sdcard or external sd cards. Impossible to know because I have no idea how to debug using adb and nobody has given any ideas on this.
- I'm starting to suspect the BLN support in the kernel. I have BLN turned off, but I'm not so sure.
Hi,
Sorry don't have any answers, but am having the exact same problems on Darky's 10.1. Except I have a TouchWiz4 Port + Galaxy S II Icons.
Hopefully someone will know of this issue! Its starting to annoy me!!
Cheers,
Sunny
Tell me something, when you installed Darky, did you restore your apps via Titanium Backup? Did you select "Restore apps + data" or just apps?
I'm in the process of reinstalling Darky's from scratch, see if that works. If not I might go back to 9.5 or try Criskelo's ROM.
Thanks
Hi,
Nope I didn't backup or restore any apps. My data is all on my SD card and I just reinstall apps.. I came from DebusROM G1.
Thanks,
Sunny
Maybe a factory reset (do it in recovery) would help?
I actually did a factory reset before installing.
@sundazetoo: Do you have Voodoo lagfix enabled?
Last night, while in the process of reinstalling Darky's ROM, I disabled the lagfix (converting to RSF) and after almost an hour i decided to pull the battery. Then when I rebooted again, it went through the conversion process, finished in 2 minutes (wut!) and an error displayed (it couldn't mount some partition, one that I know is not critical).
So I'm suspecting a filesystem problem.
I already installed and DO NOT have Voodoo's lagfix enabled. I also did a complete wipe and restored my apps without data. So far it seems fine but it's only been a few hours.
@Lunchbox115: I did the factory reset when I installed too.
@ferparedes: Yep voodoo is enabled. I am now running on the stock launcher that came with Darky's 10.1 and it seems to be running a lot smoother. I was running a TW4 port so that may have been my problem!
I will monitor it and let you know how it goes.
Have you tried clearing the data / cache for the launchers you are using? That seems to fix alot of FC issues for apps for me.. I guess no harm in trying anyways?
2 days in after reinstalling.
Voodoo EXT4 lagfix NOT enabled. Phone is pretty snappy and I've haven't had any more freezes. I think it was either a bad EXT4 conversion or the lagfix itself was causing it. Anyways, since the phone is pretty fast I'm leaving it with RFS lagfix only.
One thing of note, though. I'm running stock GB launcher atm, because ADW was giving some problems.
Yesterday ADW Launcher *died* and although the phone was working and responsive, the launcher never came back. The result was that when I pressed the home button nothing happened but a blank screen. The power button worked, though, so I was able to do a clean reboot and switch to Launcher.
Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
Same again
I get these issues too. I seem to get them RFS and ext4 (I think - mostly its been ext4 though). Often get a delay on the keyboard. Its driving me a bit nuts but I am reluctant to go back to Froyo just for this (I hate having to restore all my user names and passwords).
Silly thing is I cannot recall if I got in when I tried Gingerreal (on Darky 10.1 now).
Would love to see thoughts and theories too..
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UPDATE
After almost 2 days of totally flawless operation, I reinserted my 16 GB Micro SD card with all of my stuff in there. Among many things:
- Audible audiobooks, along with bookmark and "furthest listened" data
- Music, playlists. All created by TuneSync (which I use to wireless sync music and playlists from my PC's iTunes)
- Dropbox download folder
- Photos and videos taken with the phone
- Some other files not associated with any app
2 hours after doing this, blam, the phone locked up again requiring a reboot. So I removed the Micro SD and when I got home I backed up my photos and videos on the PC, reinserted it in the phone and formated the card. This was last night.
So far the phone's working fine.
My current theory:
The Micro SD card I originally bought for the phone was an 8gig. When I got the 16 gig one, I just copied everything from the 8gig onto a folder on the PC, then copied everything over to the 16 one. This might've broken something.
After going to Gingerbread, it's possible that the way some applications look for their data (for example, Audible) changed but when encountering the same data (that was copied over from a windows folder on the PC) it might've generated errors which in turn put the interface into a deadlock.
My strongest suspect is Audible. After installing Darky 10.1, the app just chugged away remembering all my farthest listened to data, all my audiobooks were visible, etc. After reinstalling (and removing the Micro SD) I had to redownload some, but it still remembered where I was and didn't have to reactivate the device. Now, after formatting the Micro SD, I've had to redownload everything, it didn't remember where I was on each audiobook and I also had to reactivate the device.
If the phone doesn't lock up during the next 4-5 days then I'll conclude that errors on accessing the Micro SD by some app was the cause.
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Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
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Yeah I actually don't think ADW launcher is causing this particular problem. But in a different problem altogether, it did die and in this case required me to do a reboot, albeit a clean one. But if it gave me this one single problem than I'm inclined to stop using it. I don't want the phone disabled for the 3-5 minutes it takes to boot up if I need it in an emergency (it's a phone first and foremost, after all)
tw4 is an EVIL for SGSi9000 imho... because almost everyone have problems with it !!! so just use another Launchers... LauncherPro, Launcher EX (my favourite) but not TW4 )))
I tried to fix with a reinstall of stock jvp and then went to F1 v8 jvp rkm but I also formated ext_sd card as suggested here (and deleted audible application which I was not using.
So far so good but it's only been an hour...
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Definitely something related to sd card. Everything is screwy now but less so with the sd card out.
Anyone find any solutions?
I was getting double boot screens and freezes on the dialer. Realized it was the sd when my backup would not load.
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Had this happen to me today,
I had the phone boot up and it would get to the lockscreen, then media scan, then it would lock up, only a battery pull would turn it off.
Tried booting without the External SD and it didnt occur, hmmm
Put the microSD card in the card reader on the PC, and performed a scan for errors/fix bad sectors, it didnt find anything but i put it back in and it goes fine now, im sure its the external card.
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Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
It did it again with the micro sd card out. So today I reformated the internal SD storage (usb storage) and will see how it goes. If this last attempt fails I will either go back to froyo or try another ROM.
But I do think it has something to do with one of the SD card storage.
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Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
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Should be fine
More things to try
Looked at my rom page (F1 JVP) and noticed that V8, which I have now, had the faster media scanner as does Darky's 10.1-which is not getting updates often now it seems. Well the faster media scanner only lasted 2 days until V9 of the F1 rom when the delevoper removed it. My guess it that it was causing issues.
Leads me to wonder if that might be causing the corruption in the first place or at least a contributing factor.
Also read some threads at google about similar issues across a whole wave of devices and one person there mentioned H2testw utility to test the sectors of your SD card. It sounds like cheap ebay sd card and larger SD cards my have more issues (mine is a 32gb). It is best to format and then test with h2testw but I decided to run just on the empty parts of the card and decide from there.
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I am running SpeedMod Kernel K3-3 on stock LPY rom. On the lockscreen I use WidgetLocker (but problem also was happening before I installed this). Pretty much been happening since I installed SpeedMod.
When I click the home button the screen comes up fine. Sometimes I can go ahead and do the normal unlock procedure. Meaning I can grab the lock and drag/swipe to unlock and it works. BUT many many times (and possibly because of deep sleep) there is a delay. Basically my screen is frozen...I cant access the notification bar etc etc...and when the screen is about to blackout again (6-8 seconds) then I can swipe to unlock. So essentially there is a 6-8 delay many times from being able to actually swipe on my screen. Has anyone experienced this or have any advice on what to try. I have wiped my data from CWM already and still happens.
I was going to try and ask this under my rom in development but I don't have enough whatever it takes to post there. I have also searched and searched but didn't find this exact issue or a fix for it. I have seen tons of threads about the clicking of home button delay though.
Is this the 1st custom kernel you have used with stock ICS?
Have you tried any others like francos r6 as it seem to work fine with LPY roms?
first kernel I have tried. Maybe I will give Francos a shot. I have been reading a bit more and see that maybe it could be related to my SD card? Not sure why or how this could be but I understand that when it deep sleeps so does the SD card. I have nothing to my knowledge monitoring the SD card though so I dont know why it would freeze trying to access it.
unless your widget locker app is on your sd card i wouldnt see any reason for it to effect unlocking your phone.
The only thing I have really on my external SD card that is used by the phone is ringtones/notification/UI sounds. I have copied those over to the phones SD card and deleted the ones on the external SD card. Going to test this out to see if this worked.
UPDATE - that seems to have done it. Amazing. So I guess the bottom line is to not have anything that the phone system uses or needs on the External SD Card. Tones/Sounds/Wallpapers etc.
Thanks for helping olliesmith6121
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The only thing I have really on my external SD card that is used by the phone is ringtones/notification/UI sounds. I have copied those over to the phones SD card and deleted the ones on the external SD card. Going to test this out to see if this worked.
UPDATE - that seems to have done it. Amazing. So I guess the bottom line is to not have anything that the phone system uses or needs on the External SD Card. Tones/Sounds/Wallpapers etc.
Thanks for helping olliesmith6121
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happened to me as well, i noticed that widgetlocker was on external SD, and is doing the same problem as yours. I noticed it when widget locker is always closing when using usb storage, so i transferred widgetlocker on PHONE memory and it worked, no more delays and force closes whatsoever
Dammit problem started back up again. Definitely deep sleep has something to do with the issue.
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