Hey. This is an open ended question to prompt discussion here. Not to flame / attack anyone.
Firstly thankyou for the q+a section - invaluable resourse.
My question is this. On several occasions I have seen threads deleted / moved / closed with the explanation of "wrong sub forum". That's it. I realise that modding is difficult. But surely to learn we need to know what's wrong with where we post not just that it is wrong.
One recent example is a thread asking about developing a piece of software to simplify sdcard splitting.
I would have thought development was the right place but the thread was closed and told that it was the wrong place. So, what defines development from q+a? If I have a question about development then should I post in both forums as it is development and a question?
Development is just that - DEVELOPMENT. Questions should NOT be asked there. Questions are to be asked here. No matter what kind of questions they are.
ok, that sounds sensible
milestone.it said:
ok, that sounds sensible
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Lol yesterday the entire front page of the development section was locked because ignorant people were posting questions when there is CLEARLY a Q&A section. Some of us camp out here to help people...Who ever said you're never going to get help in this section.
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Just wondering if a Q&A sub forum is really needed? The General forum is already being almost exclusively used for Q&A, and people are reposting a lot of questions here that have already been asked and answered in the General...
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Just wondering if a Q&A sub forum is really needed? The General forum is already being almost exclusively used for Q&A, and people are reposting a lot of questions here that have already been asked and answered in the General...
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I'm not sure, but according to the title of this forum, you're not supposed to post any questions to the other Forum. I don't know how useful it will be if people are limited to posting tips only there.
One good thing about this forum is that because the volume is smaller (for the moment) your posts are closer to the top and thus, easier to find.
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Just wondering if a Q&A sub forum is really needed? The General forum is already being almost exclusively used for Q&A, and people are reposting a lot of questions here that have already been asked and answered in the General...
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i was asking myself the same thing the first day when they created it.
it's redundant to General forum
almost anyone posting will begin with a question, in the end General will become obsolete, and everyone will be using Q&A instead
maybe, but if this sticks to questions only, i like it
I don't mean to be an ass here, but I, for one, would be happy to post all my questions in the Q&A section...but looking over there at the numerous questions on just the first page there are probably less than 100 replies, cummulatively, for all those questions. I've posted over there a couple of times and never got an answer from a Dev (the ones that could answer).
So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.
If you ask in the dev's original thread, you often do get an answer and keep from poluting the dev forums.
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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flashman2002 said:
I'm just going to say it. This belongs in Q & A.
Most of the questions people ask are thread specific. If they would just read the thread that pertains to the question chances are it will be discussed in that thread. Now if it is a question that has not been talked about in their dev thread ask the question and they will respond. These guys have lives and are not solely on XDA 24/7
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The "Search this thread" option above the thread actually works pretty well. For those of us who can't read 300+ pages of threads looking for an answer.
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So, would you wiz dev and pro scripters please go over there every once and while and answer some questions, please! It would certainly help keep your forum more clean, which I agree, is out of control.
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I agree, that's why some members keep asking on DEV section. No buddy you're not being an ass I understand your frustration.
As someone else stated, if you have a question about a specific thread in the dev forum, then ask it in that thread. Also try the "Search This Thread" option to see if your question has already been asked/answered.
I know some of those threads grow like crazy, but that's where those questions belong.
The devs do this work on their own free time and only get some donations from members. Most of the time I think they mainly monitor their thread or try to help out in other dev threads.
If someone in the community knows the answer and checks that section, then I'm sure they'll point you in the right direction too.
As a mod, I'm trying to keep the dev forum a little cleaner by moving stuff out of there...and IMO, having a General forum and a Q&A forum is a little redundant because lots of stuff in the general forum turns into questions.
For some reason you blocked me from sending PM.
Weird behaviour of a mod, you don't even give new members the change to explain.
So here is what i wanted to send:
Strange, why you closed my thread?
I just saw the link the polish guy posted and found a few answers there.
But not all answers are in that thread, simply because it's not the same rom.
Ok, i'm a new member and don't know all the rules and find everything right away, but since when is it forbidden to ask simpel questions that weren't asked before?
And b.t.w. new memebrs are forced to spam questions in those threads, because we have to wait 10 posts before we can ask in de dev thread.
I understand why that is, but it doesn't solve the problem because after 10 posts people do it anyway.
Thank you for your help/time anyway.
I now reached my 10 posts, so you can close this thread or place it were it belongs (off-topic thread?)
I understand your feeling but many members newbie or not they say use search button first before asking or specially creating a new thread like the one you create there's a identical thread that tonyp's created in that section you can ask there even your post is below 10 because the q&a section is the section where you should learn first the things you want to know because its full of question and answer
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Hulk is the worst mod xda has ever had.
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You made a new account just to say that? I'm impressed.
This thread should be closed now.
If there no answers then ask a question in proper thread and it will be added to Q&A.
Your thread was closed, because I reported it as useless.
If MrXT would became moderator, he probably behaved the same. I am moderator on another forum too and some user just don't feel rules that the person must keep to make forum clean. MrXT is just a hater, don't know what his mind is pointed on.
Hulk does his job very good
Sorry, if I offenses you. I wanted to point you to ask all questions in thread that contains library which grows up i properly thread.
Cheers.
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lottumeb said:
For some reason you blocked me from sending PM.
Weird behaviour of a mod, you don't even give new members the change to explain.
So here is what i wanted to send:
Strange, why you closed my thread?
I just saw the link the polish guy posted and found a few answers there.
But not all answers are in that thread, simply because it's not the same rom.
Ok, i'm a new member and don't know all the rules and find everything right away, but since when is it forbidden to ask simpel questions that weren't asked before?
And b.t.w. new memebrs are forced to spam questions in those threads, because we have to wait 10 posts before we can ask in de dev thread.
I understand why that is, but it doesn't solve the problem because after 10 posts people do it anyway.
Thank you for your help/time anyway.
I now reached my 10 posts, so you can close this thread or place it were it belongs (off-topic thread?)
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What the hell are you complaining about?
Your thread was closed with a very polite message pointing you towards the correct place for your question and your response is to throw a public tantrum....
Nobody has stopped you sending PMs and pointless threads will be closed, just like this one.
I'm wondering, is it really that hard to post in the correct section? Here are some threads that should be in Q&A, but all were on the first page in General when I copied their links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994691
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990224
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994362
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978458
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993701
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986175
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987624
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989000
That is 12 out of 20 threads (the stickied ones were not included) on the first page that weren't posted where they should be.
Also, I noticed that most of these threads were started by people with none to very few posts... Connection?
I sense that this thread might get closed for some reason.
The threads that I linked to should be closed/moved, or the newbies (mostly, some senior members as well..) who haven't yet developed the ability to read will soon post every single question they have in General...
My suggestion is increasing the post requirement before you can post in General.
A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)
neovdr said:
A. Volunteer to become a moderator and hand down infractions or use the report post button.
B. Do you think you have any sort of authority over others and or think you are perfect?
C. Do you realize that your whiny post HAS NO PLACE HERE? (As does my response)
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B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.
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B: The OP is correct, the Q&A question exists for question, this one for general discussions. Where did he say he's perfect or above others?
C: Why not? He has a fair point. And I don't see him whining. What is your problem?
But I don't agree: Raising the post count for the General section is not a solution.
Maybe a new closed stickyied thread "This section is NOT for Questions you have, use Q&A for that" might help.
Reported my own post and suggested it to the mods.
Cheers.
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Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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Apart from the fact that I and a couple others in fact ARE scanning the q&a section every now and then for questions which are lacking an answer and are not covered in any of the other threads:
That's not a valid reason to post in the wrong section. Especially considering the kind of questions linked in the OP which are pretty often already covered multiple times all over xda.
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Because the Q&A section is a no-man's land where no dev ever ventures. Trying to push the new guys that come here to the fringes is not the solution.
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you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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you're wrong they answer the questions that never been asked before if your question doesn't answer so search it first before creating a new thread if you search for an hour so search for a day and if you can't find it and you search for almost a day that's the right time to post don't post anything because you only want to reach 10 post to be able to post in developers section
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The thing is when I go into the Q&A and see a bunch of old threads I am gonna think like that. I didn't talk out of my ass but went to the section and that was what compelled me to answer. The problems of this forum imo are solved with active moderation. Things like warnings, thread deletions and relocations. Until that investment is made we will be suffering this kind of problems.
I need to ask a question regarding a my knock on issue but can't reply to a thread that I want to post in. So I guess I need to post in here to see if someone can copy my question to that thread. I would like to get this resolved but I'm at a stand still until someone can help me out.
This is the thread I want to ask a couple of questions in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g2/development/easy-verizons-hidden-menu-t2825967
I've followed the instructions for the hidden menu. I've got it installed and did the firmware update. It seems to be working for everyone. It's not for me however. I'm on the newer version and I still can't get the knock on to work. Knock off works fine. I've noticed that some of my apps have dead spots on the screen also.
What do I do next. It was working fine last night. I put the phone on my charger around 2am last night, woke up at 9 and it didn't work.
Will a factory reset work? I'm on verizon 24a stock rom but rooted. I noticed that there is a system update available. I really don't want to have to reflash back. I like the phone as it is. I just want the knock on feature to work and my other apps. Can someone help me out here.
Thanks,
Jake
Rather than being in such a rush to post in a Development forum, spend a bit more time to ensure you post in the correct section to begin with.
We have a Q&A forum for a reason... that's where this should have been posted so I've moved it there.
Also, Development forums are for Development. They are not generally for the purpose of posting your Q&A.
Search properly first... You're unlikely to be the first person to experience your issue and your question has more than likely been answered multiple times.
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Rather than being in such a rush to post in a Development forum, spend a bit more time to ensure you post in the correct section to begin with.
We have a Q&A forum for a reason... that's where this should have been posted so I've moved it there.
Also, Development forums are for Development. They are not generally for the purpose of posting your Q&A.
Search properly first... You're unlikely to be the first person to experience your issue and your question has more than likely been answered multiple times.
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Sorry....I've search and search for my specific problem and there's nothing in these threads that cover it. I was under the assumption that I could only post in the general forum only due to my post count. Didn't know I could post in the Q&A forum or I would have put it there. Thanks for moving it for me.
What I'm trying to understand is since there's already a thread on this problem, why shouldn't I be allowed to post in it instead of starting a new thread about the same topic that won't be looked at. I'll follow the rules but to me it would seem easier to post in that thread without having to start a brand new thread on the same topic.
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Sorry....I've search and search for my specific problem and there's nothing in these threads that cover it. I was under the assumption that I could only post in the general forum only due to my post count. Didn't know I could post in the Q&A forum or I would have put it there. Thanks for moving it for me.
What I'm trying to understand is since there's already a thread on this problem, why shouldn't I be allowed to post in it instead of starting a new thread about the same topic that won't be looked at. I'll follow the rules but to me it would seem easier to post in that thread without having to start a brand new thread on the same topic.
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You're welcome to post in that thread now, without trying to boost your post count any further.
I've moved that thread out of the Development forum because it shouldn't have been there to begin with.
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ApriliaM3 said:
You're welcome to post in that thread now, without trying to boost your post count any further.
I've moved that thread out of the Development forum because it shouldn't have been there to begin with.
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Thank you