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Is push email waking your device?

When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew

Waking the device
Not sure I would want it wake the device for email as this would limit the standby time of the device. Would be nice if it were an option though.

lewcamino said:
When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew
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I am using the same ROM as you, on a Qtek - and experiencing the same symptoms. However, the device does ring/vibrate (depending on your settings) when a new mail comes in.

When does yours ring/vibrate for email? I am trying to find anything to make this work, cause I REALLY liek this ROM, it faster than the cingular ROM
Thanx; Later

same problem here on 8125 with new Qtek rom

Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.

ch4kk said:
lewcamino said:
When I get an email via Push email form my exchange server my device doesnt wake up and tell me, It gets the email, and when I turn on the screen I see the notification, but until then it doesnt beep or turn on or anything to let me know. Is anyone else having this issue? With my old ROM it synced as items arrived the OLD way with exchange, and that woke my device just fine. I like this new QTEK ROM but I can't use it if It don't tell me I have emails. BTW It will wake up for SMS and let me know.
Please post your findings, and what ROM you are using.
I'm using the NEW QTEK 2.17.7.2 rom
Thanx; Lew
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I am using the same ROM as you, on a Qtek - and experiencing the same symptoms. However, the device does ring/vibrate (depending on your settings) when a new mail comes in.
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Vibrate on new mail is working for you?? You appear to be the only one who has this working. What did you do to get it to work?

jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Gee thanks smart ass.
You think we haven't already been through the notification settings?? The problem of not vibrating when new mail arrives (no matter how it's set) has already been verified by many other folks in another thread, and reported to MS. So if you've magically got yours working, please share the info.
BTW, as far as waking up when new mail arrives, MS says that behavior is intentional so as not to impact battery. What that means is that if you have new mail set to notify you onscreen of a new mail, it will not wake the device and you will only see the notification when you bring the device out of standby. Audio notifications of new mail appear to work just fine though.

@summiter:
Tks for everything in that last post! We are not id10t's here....
I wonder how M$ plans on fixing the vibrate bug tho.... AKU3?

jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Ok here's what I think... whether he is a smart as or not, and whether he realizes it or not, he is kinda right (even though we all know that setting.)
If you go to "Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message" you can set it to notify you with a sound, vibrate doesn't work, and the device doesn't turn on when it notifies you. I think this IS by design. If you got 100 emails a day (or more in some cases) your phone would be on ALL day. So I have concluded that this was intentional on M$'s part. So its all good (also I REALLY LIKE THIS ROM, vs stock 8125), plus I don't know if my 8125 ROM vibrated when e-mail was received either. Can anyone with original 8125 ROM confirm this?
Later; Lew

lewcamino said:
jdee246 said:
Come on guys, its a simple settings change:
Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message.
The default settings in these aku2 roms is for no sound. So just change it.
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Ok here's what I think... whether he is a smart as or not, and whether he realizes it or not, he is kinda right (even though we all know that setting.)
If you go to "Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Messaging: New e-mail message" you can set it to notify you with a sound, vibrate doesn't work, and the device doesn't turn on when it notifies you. I think this IS by design. If you got 100 emails a day (or more in some cases) your phone would be on ALL day. So I have concluded that this was intentional on M$'s part. So its all good (also I REALLY LIKE THIS ROM, vs stock 8125), plus I don't know if my 8125 ROM vibrated when e-mail was received either. Can anyone with original 8125 ROM confirm this?
Later; Lew
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New mail will not turn on the screen..this is indeed by design as confirmed by Jason at MS. Per MS it is to conserve power.
New mail audio notifications work as expected.
New mail vibrate does not work, it apparently should, and MS has been notified, and they in turn have notified Imate. Whether Qtek and other device makers have been notified, I don't know.
There is a thread on the vibrate-on-new-email problem in the Wizard forum that was started almost 2 weeks ago. That is also where the notification and feedback from MS is quoted. The problem has been forwarded to the WM folks inside MS.
Hope this clears things up a tad. =)

indeed it does. I dont NEED the vibrate, it would be nice but, I dotn NEED it. Plus I must say that I am SOOO INTENT on keeping this ROM (me likes, much faster than stock cingular) that I almost dont care at all... :shock:
Later; Lew

Is this problem unique to the Wizards?

Sound/Vibrate works for me
The sound notification works for me. When push e-mail comes in it plays my sound. The wav file I use for e-mail notification is on my SD card to boot.
Before push e-mail I used the Exchange AUTD feature and that actually did turn the screen on and played my sound. With push e-mail it just plays the sound, but the screen doesn't light up. I actually like this better. Usually my phone is out of sight anyway so I don't care if the screen lights up or not. This way it conserves battery better.
As to vibrate, if I set the phone to vibrate using the Comm button it vibrates when I get mail as well, and it still doesn't turn on the screen.
If I set the new mail notification to vibrate under Sounds and Notifications it also vibrates and doesn't turn on the screen.
I am running the stock ROM I have not installed anything on it. I have not done any customization to make these things work. They just work for me. I notice most users reporting this are using the new Cingular 8125. I am using an OEM Qtek 9100.
Qtek 9100
2.17.7.2 WWE

It seems that the issue isn't really an issue unique to push email. I'm using VeriChat (IM client) and when IM's arrive, the notification while in standby has exactly the same behavior as with push email (sound if volume is up, but never vibe, whereas vibe will work if the screen is on).
I think the issue is that the device is set to never vibrate when in standby. Period.
An incoming phone call wakes the device. Vibe will work since the device is already in a powered-up state. SMS is the same thing - the arrival of an SMS causes the device to wake up; therefore the vibe can proceed since it is no longer in standby.
Pre-push AUTD includes the receipt of an SMS triggering a pull - that's what allowed the device to wake up and vibe.
Push email (and, for that matter, scheduled pull email) does not wake up the device; neither does an IM client.
What is still baffling me is why some people seem to not have this issue. It appears to have less to do with the actual device and more the ROM (which makes sense). I'm still hoping that someone with more reverse engineering skills than I have can diff the extended ROM's of a device where this works (like the QTEK out of the box?) with one where it doesn't (e.g., the update for Cingular) and put together a little cab that would fix this annoying quirk.
I'm thinking that those of us who have the issue (and care about it!) may want to pool together a pot to reward the first to solve this problem... Just a thought..

I concur
I have the QTEK 9100 and 2.17 ROM. Have the same problem, on msg receive I only get sound no vibrate (when device is off). I have heard from others who have other WM5 devices that they do get the vibrate and when I spoke to the MSFT product guys at CTIA they all seemed surprised that this does not work. So I dont think its by design, its a problem with the 2.17 ROM that we all have. There probably is a workaround. Anyone hear of one?

SMS log like blackberry?

Hello, I am a very txt heavy person and i was just wondering if anyone knows of an option or software that acts like the blackberry message service, where it shows ALL the texts between you and the person (sorta like the facebook -wall to wall- feature).
Thank you.

Pocket CM does this kinda, maybe not exactly what your looking for but worth a look

Palm SMS is also very good.

Ahhh, you mean threaded SMS conversation!
Well, by default, WM6 doesn't have threading feature on its messaging application.
But if you'd like to thread your SMS, you could use the two alternatives mentioned here. And a few others.
Palm Threading SMS is awesome. I can't give you a link to it unfortunately, but if you snoop around this forum, I'm sure you'll find your way to the file.
Another one that's free, it's developed by a member here, is the IMSMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619
Give PocketCM, Palm (I prefer this), and IMSMS a try. But I find that Palm's Threaded SMS has a very nice (maybe the best) integration to the operating system. Meaning, it's installation on top of (not overwritting the default one, just overlaying) the default messaging application is very nice.

Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
Thanks in advance!

ghaith_d said:
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
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I'd look in Settings -> Sounds & Notifications and change it there. It's not really a program-specific setting, though it may make some changes. I've also found that it doesn't seem like changes stick around through a soft reset (sometimes). I can't explain that, and I'm no guru so it may be my fault anyway.
Austin

Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab

jomo25 said:
Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Thanks jomo25, but the problem persists...i went to sounds & notifications and it shows that there is a sound notification and that it will vibrate with new incoming sms...but it doesnt do that...should i try a soft reset?
and did any of you guys notice that txts were getting delayed because of palm sms? as in...they take longer for you to recieve a text that someone sent?

If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.

jomo25 said:
If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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I did everything you said, but no luck...and i have been notified by my friends that they have sent me several sms's and i never got them at all, let alone have the sms delayed by over 10 minutes (average). I really like the app, but it's causing too many problems so i'm gonna uninstall it and try something else.
Thanks for your help anyway

All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.

grizzley said:
All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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I have the HTC TYTN 2, with the OEM ROM...i have not done 1 mod to it...weird.

Yes, VERY odd. It has worked for many other users as well.

SMS/Mail confirmation alert

Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?

Lavish P said:
Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?
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This little quirk bothers me too because I want to hit send and then lock the device; unfortunately, when I hit send and lock the device I get a bunch of notifications and the device unlocks itself and random uttones get pressed as its in my pocket.
It may be best to load a WWE rom and sort out the smail using mmslite. Getting JP input working however is another issue.
For the problem with the notifications in softbank's arcsoft mail app, I wonder if there is a registry fix we can do.

solution for successful sent notification(at least for text)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-diamondpro-tweak.html
Go to messages, and disable text messages notifications.

Kevbodian, mjz147,
Thanks, I really appriciate your quick response!!
I checked out that Diamond tweak app and its one hell of an applicaiton!
It seems though, when I disabled the text message notification and soft reset, im still getting those alerts after sending MMS/SMS emails.
Is there something wrong with my device or I may have to do some manual modifications via registry? :\

Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.

kosherpig said:
Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.
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I guess I have bad luck when it comes to disabling notification via Windows.
Unlike the US version, my phone doesnt have just one central location for mail but two (Outlook application - used for PC email & SoftBank Mail - used for SMS and MMS...)
So when I looked under the option menu in Outlook tools, I wasnt able to find any SMS/MMS options...
Im sure theres a registry hack that can be used...im not so sure why the diamond tweak app could apply changes to everything except the "turn off notifications" option though...

Was anyone able to solve this issue?

Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.

Sergio PC said:
Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.
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I currently have 3.3 installed and have used it to disable/enable many features on my Diamond. But it seems after I disable the 'SMS delivery notification' and 'SMS sent notification" fields (and soft reboot), it is still showing the sent notifications after sms/s!mail is sent...
As Kevbodian was saying, maybe there is a special reg hack that needs to be done under softbank's arcsoft mail app.

could somebody figure out what change is made when that notification is turned off and turn this into a cab file? the only thing that bothers me is the sound. i dont mind the bubble or the little icon on the top telling me that my sms is sent. thanks

this one is simple and right to the point install it and it doesnt give you the message, you dont have tons of menus to navigate through just that install
also i am simply reposting this app i did not develop it or design it credit goes where credit is due

so this turns off the sound AND the notifications also? thanks

yep no sound and no pop up message after sending one
i hope it helps

almost tempted to figure out how cab files work (arent they just reg edits?) and maybe try to see if i can change it myself. i like having the notifications (bubble and little icon on the top) but the sound can be annoying at times,
Edit1: also i just installed advanced config 3.3 and the notification thing works for me.
Edit2: also search "kraiser tweak" and you will find it has settings for this. a lot of settings actually for just the thing you are talking about. now we just need to find the edits in the registry because i dont really like having 2 configuration programs on my phone. (advance config, and kraiser tweak)
Edit3: ok i found this on the wiki....Disable SMS Sent Notification
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
.....so does this mean if it was changed to a 2,3,or 4 that would change the action of it? im really trying to look into this.....if you cant tell haha

touch flow 3d stuck on 1 new message

Has any one experienced a problem with Touch Flow 3D when the number of new messages displayed by the green number on the messages tab is stuck and won't clear even when all messages have been read in the mail application?
Any ideas of how to clear/reset the Touch Flow 3D so it no longer shows new messages indicator?
To date I have tried several hard reboots, deleted out all recent messages from when this problem began, however it still wont clear.

prickett233 said:
Has any one experienced a problem with Touch Flow 3D when the number of new messages displayed by the green number on the messages tab is stuck and won't clear even when all messages have been read in the mail application?
Any ideas of how to clear/reset the Touch Flow 3D so it no longer shows new messages indicator?
To date I have tried several hard reboots, deleted out all recent messages from when this problem began, however it still wont clear.
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Go into the home screen settings, and disable TouchFlo, save changes, then reboot, and enable...see if tht works

Malik05 said:
Go into the home screen settings, and disable TouchFlo, save changes, then reboot, and enable...see if tht works
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Thanks for your suggestion, I gave it a try, but the new message indicator still has not cleared. Hopefully soneself else has other ideas I can try.

prickett233 said:
Has any one experienced a problem with Touch Flow 3D when the number of new messages displayed by the green number on the messages tab is stuck and won't clear even when all messages have been read in the mail application?
Any ideas of how to clear/reset the Touch Flow 3D so it no longer shows new messages indicator?
To date I have tried several hard reboots, deleted out all recent messages from when this problem began, however it still wont clear.
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At your email click on inbox, so your in the Microsoft list view then click on the top left inbox drop down. You will now see the tree of all the email boxes. If you expand the Outlook email you should find that the unread email is the one automatically created in that inbox.

stan12345 said:
At your email click on inbox, so your in the Microsoft list view then click on the top left inbox drop down. You will now see the tree of all the email boxes. If you expand the Outlook email you should find that the unread email is the one automatically created in that inbox.
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The problem is with the Messages tab, not the Email tab which links to outlook. The Messages tab loads up to ArcSoft Messages application to handle SMS messages. When I go into the inbox of this application there are 0 (zero) new messages.

Go through every msg and wait 5 seconds

Hey did you ever fix this? I have the same issue and it's driving me nuts!

Same here. Nothing above worked. Any other suggestions????

+1 same problem here except on a touch pro, any solutions?

its not removable unless you flash the ROM again

flashing the rom again fixed this issue for me

Inbox clearer
Hey guys I just ran across this thread and have a program to solve your problem. Ive had it around for a while and I do not recall who wrote it but just run the .exe and it should solve your problems. If anyone knows who wrote it feel free to mention.

Thank you for sharing.
I had the same problem. now, it not just 1 sms, but 2 sms.
I try all the solution, except flushing the ROM. can someone teach me how to do that? and what is the risk?
thank you

cannot reply to unread sms!

Hi,
I had my diamond fixed with HTC since the device would not be able to connect to the network anymore. Since I have it back, I cannot reply to unread SMS anymore like I used to:
I get an SMS, and click on the messages-line in my today-screen (touchflo is off), or on the notifyer. It opens the SMS-thread and displays the new SMS with a light-blue background. If I want to answer by clicking into the text-field, the cursor wont appear and I cannot write. In order to reply to the SMS, I have to _ALWAYS_ first close the message app again, re-open it and then it works, after the unread mark is cleared and there is no blue background anymore behind my latest SMS... any idea what to do and how to get back to the old way where I was able to reply immediately?
thanks

any idea on this?

Did you find a solution to this problem?
I am dealing with the same issue and it is quite annoying!

Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM

sunflower33 said:
Mmmm me to on this one - anyone any ideas?
For me this occured after upgarding to the latest ROM
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I think I'm having the similar problem - see my post>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580167

Solution
Hey,
i had the same problem and by chance found a workaround.
When opening an unread SMS you have to:
FIRST: Open the keypad / keyboard
SECOND: Tab the text/reply field
This way the cursor should appear and you should be able to type your answer.
Hope, this helps.
Regards,
joker