Check this out ... like the new "tab" UI
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5849
Another Video: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5875
Links: (Thanks to CarlosT )
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=62204
Here's one:
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=62204
link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/257426445/HD_WM6.5__V47__B21928_07192009.rar
Pswrd: PhamQuang
Some one tested these ROMs? I'd like to have the Wallpaper used in this video. ;-)
Previous WM 6.5 builds can do this, just swipe your finger left or right in those screens
Wow... In a year's time, the black and white GUI can be swiped left and right...
I wish Microsoft would just pay HTC to redesign WM from the ground up (or, more accurately, develop TouchFLo so it essentially becomes the complete GUI).
I love my BlackStone, and I love WM's power, but as better and better devices come out, the GUI looks more and more like a joke, or Windows DOS
That's awefull. How are you supposed to see if the tab you might be looking for is actually there... You first have to scroll through all of them?? And it's ugly, but then again, so are the tabs used in earlier 6.5 builds.
DarkStone1337 said:
Previous WM 6.5 builds can do this, just swipe your finger left or right in those screens
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i was about to say it ..
Thanks for link
CarlosT said:
Here's one:
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=62204
link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/257426445/HD_WM6.5__V47__B21928_07192009.rar
Pswrd: PhamQuang
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Thanks for the Link
that might be a temporary UI as proof of concept because the newer build 23007 (found in Dutty's rom) does not have this at all.
edwinlinkt said:
Thanks for the Link
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Are you try it?
Someone know where I can get the wallpaper from this video?
zenkinz said:
that might be a temporary UI as proof of concept because the newer build 23007 (found in Dutty's rom) does not have this at all.
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help me out here....
as i understand it dutty is using winmo 6.5 build 23007
the one in this thread is winmo 6.5.1 build 21925
....i am confused.
have i got this wrong IS there a 6.5 AND 6.5.1 version
or id 21925 and old 23007 ????
zenkinz said:
that might be a temporary UI as proof of concept because the newer build 23007 (found in Dutty's rom) does not have this at all.
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23007 is a different branch to 21928. The two branches haven't been merged yet.
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23007 is a different branch to 21928. The two branches haven't been merged yet.
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now it makes sense....
i suppose when they combine...and after a few more graphical tweaks from microsoft...it could be something quite special!!
Just tried the ROM posted, its fully customized which I dont really like. Does anyone have a clean version of this build?
in the Build 21928 version (V47), the HTC SMS app accepts/transmits hyperlinks in this ROM. they'll appear in a blue font with underlines. they're also clickable from the SMS app and the SMS tab. i didn't care for the guady looking WinMo message boxes and "finger-friendly" look.
edwinlinkt said:
Check this out ... like the new "tab" UI
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5849
Another Video: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5875
Links: (Thanks to CarlosT )
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=62204
http://rapidshare.com/files/25742644...8_07192009.rar
Pswrd: PhamQuang
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the Rapidshare link is dead my friend
hassler said:
the Rapidshare link is dead my friend
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oh well
Worked thx PhamQuang. But I don't try this rom.
LINK TẢI ROM V47 (Build 21928.5.0.60):
http://rapidshare.com/files/257426445/HD_WM6.5__V47__B21928_07192009.rar
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LINK TẢI ROM V47 (Build 23007.5.3.0):
* RapidShare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/257530369/HD_WM6.5__V47__B23007_07182009.rar
Pass.: PhamQuang
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I tried this rom, which is amazing fast!
Is there have any way to increase the resolution?
technomania34 said:
Worked thx PhamQuang. But I don't try this rom.
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Related
Try my first beta of a optimized X1 rom
I have used ported SYS/XIP from Blackstone 5.2.20757 (20757)
I added my custom reg tweaks and performance tweaks
Changed drivers with the "newer Ati drivers" (thread about it here)
Tuned up sd card performance (Based on the tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab)
Added facebook panel
Added Google panel
added FInix VGA Battery
Added UC support
removed games like soduko and bejewled (cab is in the Touch-IT add-on package)
removed opera (cab is in the Touch-IT add-on package)
DOWNLOAD:
Rapidshare
Mirror: Megaupload
TOUCH-IT ADD-ON
Awesome, can't wait. Any chance of remapping AU to CTRL? and a battery meter bar on the top of the screen.
Thank you Itje
Eagerly waiting to try it, add me to the "I-would-like-battery-meter" guys... ;-)
ninja.rogue said:
Eagerly waiting to try it, add me to the "I-would-like-battery-meter" guys... ;-)
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Could you also add UC? I'm trying to work with it right now, and it looks very handy. I'm going to try your Manila rom tonight, but if I don't use manila that much I'll certainly try an optimized Xperia rom
Pyrojester said:
Awesome, can't wait. Any chance of remapping AU to CTRL? and a battery meter bar on the top of the screen.
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wich one?
I am really aiming for as little add-on apps as possible, since most can be installed via cabs....
Only app I am planning on adding is PIM backup
edit: An yea, UC will be added in all my roms from now on
can't wait, thank in advance. Hope to see your release.
it would be so nice to see such rom in german
As for me, I use Lvmtopbat, which is really small small and small again.
You can try it out, if you don't like it, no problem as I will install the cab later or use Pocket Plus SPB which has similar meter...
Very good job from you, Itje!!
Oh, really waiting for such a stock rom
Great idea! Any ETA? Thanks.
looking forward to this one, Then we can add the cabs we want.
ETA: Depending on upload speed
cheers
Thank you itje! What is the advance of using SYS/XIP from Blackstone 5.2.20757 (20757) in the X1?
itje said:
ETA: Depending on upload speed
cheers
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YEah!
can't wait till it is released!! been waiting for something like this for a looonng time.
released
have fun
I can soon pay off my rapidshare, thx to donations. If you wanna help out, please use donation link above my sig.
cheers all
any mirrors?. .. I have issues accessing Rapidshare.
thanks
moisesz said:
any mirrors?. .. I have issues accessing Rapidshare.
thanks
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im uploading to megaupload
done
You may want to remove Google maps in the stock rom, it's so outdated. Thanks for the optimized ROM.
thanks much. it worked and downloading as we speak. thanks much.
From pdaviet.net CE OS 5.2.23025 Build 23025.5.3.0
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=64582
what's the language of the wedsite?
can't understand this language and don't know how to download~anybody can explain this ?
ceylin45 said:
From pdaviet.net CE OS 5.2.23025 Build 23025.5.3.0
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=64582
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Hi,
please post a link for download.
Thanks
womo said:
Hi,
please post a link for download.
Thanks
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Here you are
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/266225255/HD_WM6.5__V51__B23025_08112009.rar
Pass unrar: PhamQuang
hoangdai said:
Here you are
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/266225255/HD_WM6.5__V51__B23025_08112009.rar
Pass unrar: PhamQuang
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Thank you very much !!!!
rapidshare is not working for me so plz make a mirror of any other site.
Thanks in advance.
very buggy but very good ui!
lethalfriend said:
rapidshare is not working for me so plz make a mirror of any other site.
Thanks in advance.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=9c7fd912bacc7dbd7f7ec40ada4772a6d1568818d0ca01a0b8eada0a1ae8665a
Pass unrar: PhamQuang
Thanks for the mirrror.
Cheers.
What kind of bugs are present in this rom ???
delight_11 said:
can't understand this language and don't know how to download~anybody can explain this ?
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website's in Vietnamese, and you gotta register to even see the thread.
aussiebum said:
website's in Vietnamese, and you gotta register to even see the thread.
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sometimes you'll not able see the links even you've registered
lethalfriend said:
What kind of bugs are present in this rom ???
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hehe - thank god for Google Translate! Here's the ROM details in English. And I can see the link btw.
Version WM6.5 ROM V51 for HTC TouchHD (BLACKSTONE):
- System based on the new OS Ship HTC Blackstone ROM: 1.59.841.5 WWE (New)
- Integration No. 1 Rhodium OEM from HTC and HTC LeoFirestone
- Manila new version: v2.1 Build 38680.1 ROM from HTC for Rhodium.
- Change the version of the latest Camera (6_15_35154_1) from HTC Topaz 1 with the appropriate number of OEM.
- Change the interface of WMP author Grzegorz10 (XDA).
- Use of Titanium WM7 authors Ibrythill (XDA) can change and edit the weather tab to display well. Using background from blue WM7 Theme by shadowline (XDA).
- Use the application and rotate Reset Screen of Mod. Tom_codon, running good
- Use the XIP and SYS from ROM WM6.5 (Build 23025.5.3.0).
* Core V51 with 23,025 has been modified to use the Drag & Drop Shorcut hứng option. Use the Settings function in complete will not be released outside ... Interface is quite interesting and strange eyes.
* Interface and functionality of Core V51 with 23,025 very interesting and attractive.
* V51 has been refined to sensor features Phone not rotate horizontally along the request of many members.
V51 * get default boot is Manila, but it could be used by Titanium off to Manila.
* The function is working and consistent than previous versions.
* Edit and change the lock screen to display correctly and faster.
* Build 23025.5.3.0 have new speed improve rapidly and RAM also stable as the previous Build.
* Function Video game full screen in WMP and running Java application was good editing.
* Note Up to this ROM, run well, your computer should have HardSPL: 1.56.OliNex.
SPECIAL:
* In ROM with integrated applications TomAutoInstall.exe with self-installed quickly the *. cab, *. proxml, *. xml, *. tsk file from memory card, how do the following:
- Create a folder on the memory card Autoinstall
- Copy the CAB, proxml, tsk xml or to be installed in the directory.
- HR again, you'll see once complete, the CAB has been installed already.
(Note the application based on the way will be installed on Main).
- Integration Tool with the support of Message Mod. Tom_codon, lot or function, such as:
+ Change the Message: Classic or Thread
+ Tone of SMS or
+ Notification of the SMS sent or not
+ Many functions or other.
Thanks Mod. Tom_codon because applications are excellent and fast.
Taking the plunge and trying this ROM build now... will report back with usability and benchmarks
EDIT: uh.... looks nice, but app compatibility with older WM apps is screwed in this build - SPB benchmark wasn't rendering correctly in places. So either this ROM build is crap or WM 6.5 build 23025 is crap... or both. Anyways raw benchmark figures (sorry too lazy to format ).. pretty much same as what I got with Dutty's R9, nothing special.
<benchmark-results>
<info>
<platform-name>HTC Touch HD T8282</platform-name>
<device-name>TouchHD-PDAViet</device-name>
<start-date>08.12.2009</start-date>
</info>
<main-tests>
<fs-largefilewrite>1286.500000</fs-largefilewrite>
<fs-largefileread>147.500000</fs-largefileread>
<fs-largefilecopy>624.000000</fs-largefilecopy>
<fs-manyfileswrite>6514.800000</fs-manyfileswrite>
<fs-manyfilesread>618.800000</fs-manyfilesread>
<fs-manyfilescopy>4844.800000</fs-manyfilescopy>
<fs-dirlisting>238.500000</fs-dirlisting>
<fs-db>840.400000</fs-db>
<grf-ddb>15.060000</grf-ddb>
<grf-dib>36.035000</grf-dib>
<grf-gapi>6.015000</grf-gapi>
<misc-zip>4118.300000</misc-zip>
<misc-jpeg>416.800000</misc-jpeg>
<misc-arkaball>8.786000</misc-arkaball>
<misc-mflops>3436.500000</misc-mflops>
<misc-mops>1011.400000</misc-mops>
<misc-mwips>7288.200000</misc-mwips>
<misc-memcpy>8.478000</misc-memcpy>
</main-tests>
</benchmark-results>
link to other roms from same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535674&page=1
have used most of the roms to date and found them to be very good
working without having to load cab after cab
windows 6.5 may be crap but this chap puts a lot of work into his roms and after trying a few others Ill put pdaviet roms at the top of my list to try.
I know Ill not need to read 101 pages of fix this and that to be able to use my phone to make a call.
ROM INFO :
* CE OS 5.2.21884 & Build 21884.5.0.85
* New Rhodium Base Rom and LEO wm65
* Updated 100 % drivers, (OEMDRIVERS, XIP, etc..)
* Updated 100% applications
* Newest official manila 2.1
* HTC Navipanel
* Updated icons on the Rom.
* And a few more things…..
DOWNLOAD
Thanks goes to :
Tom_codon
Itje
Dutty
Marchello
Bepe for his tools
Ervius for his tools
If i might have forgotten someone, thanks.
Also thanks to everyone who shared the tools, apps, graphics and knowledge to all of us.
looks good ark...looks like u got the. xperia manilla thing! Cant wait for a link
Im so confused, so this 21844 suppose to official 6.5 update? What about those newer built like 23409 and stuff? What are those? 6.5.1???
romeo0119 said:
Im so confused, so this 21844 suppose to official 6.5 update? What about those newer built like 23409 and stuff? What are those? 6.5.1???
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For the most part, they are releases for different manufacturers. 21xxx I believe is HTC's builds. I thought I saw a breakdown of each build list and who it coorelates to, but I can't find it for the life of me.
ai6908 said:
looks good ark...looks like u got the. xperia manilla thing! Cant wait for a link
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Hi bro, not the Xperia thing, the newest Rhodium thing, newest manila 2.1, and all other stuff is new also.
Cheers.
Hi ark666...
Looks great! Does this manila 2.1 version also have the big animations on the home tab for the weather, as found in the udK TiR rom?
mikkelnl said:
Hi ark666...
Looks great! Does this manila 2.1 version also have the big animations on the home tab for the weather, as found in the udK TiR rom?
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This is the newest manila 2.1, it has weather on home screen and some other improvements, but if you´re talking about the animated background, that´s only available on the newest 2.5 versions.
Wow, nice! looking forward to it!
mikkelnl said:
Hi ark666...
Looks great! Does this manila 2.1 version also have the big animations on the home tab for the weather, as found in the udK TiR rom?
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Yea this 2.1 has animations in home tab for weather.
Latest stuff! Cant wait for Ark to send this puppy out for testing...
ai6908 said:
Yea this 2.1 has animations in home tab for weather.
Latest stuff! Cant wait for Ark to send this puppy out for testing...
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It´s already in testing phase, final release will be up soon.
Cheers.
Where does the Manila comes from?? Any download links?
I want it NOW!
I am sure he will post a link, when its ready...
Nice. Looking forward to this release.
can´t wait for this awesome rom, can you say any date for release? hours? days? weeks?
darky207 said:
can´t wait for this awesome rom, can you say any date for release? hours? days? weeks?
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+1! Could you please give us ~"any date?"
Good luck with cooking
hi
i am also waiting for your rom
will you tell us about the used Ram in this rom
thanks
I'm looking forward to trying this one out as well.
Sorry for the delay guys, Red Bull Air Race here in Town.
Remember that any suggestion can help to improve the rom, and will help me to now what can be done to improve it, so any post is appreciated.
Cheers.
tried this new release. its really awesome. memory usage perfect! my only suggestion is the classic black and white tabs. i hate the colored ones. Will recommend you guys to try this. awesomeness and really stable. no hanky pankies!!! eheheheh
http://rapidshare.com/files/287488956/HD_WM65__V67__B23420COM4__D100209.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/286609434/HD_WM65__V66__B23053COM3__D093009.rar
did not know what was new to it. Hope Xaoc will give a new post!
http://rapidshare.com/files/285194819/HD_WM65__V65__B21859COM2__D092609.rar
Pass.: PhamQuang
Xaoc747,would you please help to translate it to English?
note: the radio is the newest 1.17.25.09
Edit:
~~~~~ FIXED VERSION - V65 ~~~~~
http://rapidshare.com/files/286041589/HD_WM65__V65__B21859COM2__FIX__D092809.rar
Pass.: PhamQuang
agan_yq said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/285194819/HD_WM65__V65__B21859COM2__D092609.rar
Pass.: PhamQuang
Xcao,would you please help to translate it to English?
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It's already in the v64 thread, please don't start a new thread . We just need xaoc to amend the title.
ClydeB1 said:
It's already in the v64 thread, please don't start a new thread . We just need xaoc to amend the title.
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Thanks, I've found it in xaoc's thread.
agan_yq said:
Thanks, I've found it in xaoc's thread.
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No problem.
The V65 is a very very fluid ROM with Twitter incorporated, the only problem I encounter is a bug in the Opera browser (ERROR message!), Someone there a way to overcome that? thank you
GWADADA said:
The V65 is a very very fluid ROM with Twitter incorporated, the only problem I encounter is a bug in the Opera browser (ERROR message!), Someone there a way to overcome that? thank you
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sorry ... but this rom (v65) is not in english language ????? isn't it ?????
[ROM][PDAVIET][WWE]BLACKSTONE WM6.5 ROM V65 21859 is ready
Dear Sir, is this rom newer or older than [ROM][PDAVIET][WWE]BLACKSTONE WM6.5 ROM V64 (Core 23053). thanks
English language
and
Newer rom than V64
v61 V62 V63 V64 V65 V.... FIND
The 21859 Core isn't a new build ........
Yes it s correct but the last rom is V65 really
Rom
Just flashed the Rom. By tapping on the button Settings (windows Start button) nothing happens. do u have an idea How to fix that?
SPB products
I flashed the ROM again and did not installed SPB shell. The settings button works.
SPB Weather does not work (the Message: send weather request failed. The city is not added). I Think SPB is not compatible with this Rom.
Can anyone upload to new sites ..not rapidshare and megaupload but others.
Thanks.
voileuxcool said:
Yes it s correct but the last rom is V65 really
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Yes, but when you try a 23047 or above build, and his personnal interface, its difficult to come back with a 21859 build
Seiya said:
Yes, but when you try a 23047 or above build, and his personnal interface, its difficult to come back with a 21859 build
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true,,
i am waiting for a 23053 successor to... hoped v65 would be, but it's not.
Seiya said:
Yes, but when you try a 23047 or above build, and his personnal interface, its difficult to come back with a 21859 build
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oNNoZeLe said:
true,,
i am waiting for a 23053 successor to... hoped v65 would be, but it's not.
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I feel the same with both...
I tested V65 for a couple of hours and the truth is that it is a very fast and stable ROM, but I'm really missing the beauty of the 23... core.
Until a new 23... based ROM, I'm back to V64.
I am absolutly satisfied with the new V65. First I also missed the new streamlined UI concept of the bottom bar, but the 21... branch is much more stable and has compatibility with all other applications. Also syncing / PC connection is more stable then in the last COM3 builds.
For me its really a great ROM, as the most important UI changes FROM the 23047+ builds are integrated in this build as well, except the missing new bottom bar
jolas said:
I feel the same with both...
I tested V65 for a couple of hours and the truth is that it is a very fast and stable ROM, but I'm really missing the beauty of the 23... core.
Until a new 23... based ROM, I'm back to V64.
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Same for me , I'll wait for a V66 with the 23... core, I hope
NET Compact Framework v3.5
I installed NET Compact Framework v3.5 and the ROM works now.
But still if SPB Shell runs, tapping on Icon Setting do not work. if SPB Shell does not run, it works.
please make some pictures!!!
Looking for advise on a cooked rom with the following:
1; Fast
2; Touch sensitive. Ultimate touch sensitivity applied
3; winmo 6.5 with the start button the new style (down bottom)
4; English
and preferably without TF3D. I really really really DISLIKE and hate TF3D so a rom without it would be splendid.
thanks.
try..
***Xperia UnOff Series - Infinite & Xperia X1.5***
pegasus123 said:
try..
***Xperia UnOff Series - Infinite & Xperia X1.5***
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I second that.
Oz
Valkyrie FireStorm Topaz-Rhodium Builds (manila 2.1)
i did download and installed UnOff.
It does NOT have the 6.5 stuff nor does it have the new style windows start button at the bottom
oh well. time to try: Valkyrie FireStorm Topaz-Rhodium Builds (manila 2.1)
oh.. you need to download the build 28000 (aka 6.5.3) to get the bottom start button
oh..
well ok, I'll try x1_firestorm_v5.0.28005LEO-MAX.7z then
i hope thats a good version?
MOD EDIT - Attitude/language cleaned up
yes, that rom is badass
cylent said:
oh..
well ok, I'll try x1_firestorm_v5.0.28005LEO-MAX.7z then
i hope thats a good version?
MOD EDIT - Attitude/language cleaned up
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You said in your first post you hate TF3D, so your solution is to try a LEO ROM??
Sure you can switch off the TF3D (Settings >> Today >> Items >> Windows Default), but this IS by default a TF3D (HTC Sense) ROM. Use his Xperio version if you want Win Mo 6.5 only.
its not a solution.
i am just trying it out.
i will see if i like leo .. if not then then i'll revert to the ***Xperia UnOff Series - Infinite & Xperia X1.5*** however i cant find the 6.5 rom? can someone tell me where the 6.5 version is on this page? (the download link -- i am obviously blind enough not to see it? )
cylent said:
i did download and installed UnOff.
It does NOT have the 6.5 stuff nor does it have the new style windows start button at the bottom
oh well. time to try: Valkyrie FireStorm Topaz-Rhodium Builds (manila 2.1)
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does NOT have the 6.5 stuff??? lol the two roms are completely windows mobile 6.5 dude
xperia panels and panel manager does not work well on the builds with the start button on the bottom bar, and my roms are based on the latest 21882 build
cylent said:
its not a solution.
i am just trying it out.
i will see if i like leo .. if not then then i'll revert to the ***Xperia UnOff Series - Infinite & Xperia X1.5*** however i cant find the 6.5 rom? can someone tell me where the 6.5 version is on this page? (the download link -- i am obviously blind enough not to see it? )
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i suggest for you to read read read, not being harsh dude, but if you read you will find the link, and you will see the roms are 6.5, i do not see the reason for 6.1 when SEUS gives the best 6.1 rom....i know im a fanboy but if we do get that 6.5 upgrade, unoff production is completely done
spikegotti said:
does NOT have the 6.5 stuff??? lol the two roms are completely windows mobile 6.5 dude
xperia panels and panel manager does not work well on the builds with the start button on the bottom bar, and my roms are based on the latest 21882 build
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fine. tell me the link i am supposed to download that has the start button at the bottom ...
on this page there are two links to the english version;
http://www.xperia-world.com/rom/USA_X1.5.zip
&
http://www.xperia-world.com/rom/XperiaInfinite.zip
i assume its the first link above because i tried the second one already and its not what i want (no start button at bottom)
as i said before, the panel manager and panels, does not work well with those builds
and i told you to read read read, this is how you will know what the roms are and their contents
if you dont read any of the chefs' release notes and rom info, you will find yourself flashing almost every rom and not knowing what you are installing....
the main rule of xda is to read, this way u wont be disappointed
cylent said:
oh..
well ok, I'll try x1_firestorm_v5.0.28005LEO-MAX.7z then
i hope thats a good version?
MOD EDIT - Attitude/language cleaned up
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definitely, but it's got manila 2.5, as already mentioned, pure 2.1 build would be x1_***TR.7z
generally: 21*** builds are old ui, 28*** new ui (start bottom left side)
and a general +1 to spikegottis advice