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CorePlayer Mobile v1.1.x Qtv Edition (for Tilt / Kaiser Owners) released ...

Hi Guys,
CoreCodec has released a pre-update of CorePlayer that should fix most of the video playback issues on our devices ...
Can someone who is authorized to download the update confirm that it works smooothly with htc Kaiser ?
All owners of CorePlayer 1.x should be able to update for free ...
The Link to the thread in CoreCodec board is here :
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=669.0
Thomas

I just downloaded it on my Touch. So far with the one file i actually had on my Touch the QTV driver shows the video with a black screen. The file plays when I have GDI. I was assuming the Touch may use the same QTV driver. But I think I remember somewhere that BetaBoy wrote that this was for Mpeg4 files only. So i'll look. I was able to run a bench mark using the GDI and QTV settings though. QTV did about 10% higher on this small file.

Hum... I'm currently testing it with a 640x340 xvid file and it seems pretty fluid. Don't really know if I'd say the playback is flawless.

Hi,
Thanks for sharing this news.
I downloaded and installed on my Kaiser.
It feels like my device is much more responsive now!
Also the Touchscreen feels more responsive!
THIS FEELS GOOD
Am I grazy and the only one or what?
Regards,
Leo

Uhm, why would this make the touchscreen more responsive?

You tell me...
It does!
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Uhm, why would this make the touchscreen more responsive?
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I went to the link but I didnt see where to buy it. Is it just the current one for sale?

You can buy Kaiser edition here:
http://www.mobihand.com/product.asp?id=8905
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I went to the link but I didnt see where to buy it. Is it just the current one for sale?
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Upgrade core player
Does anyone know if I can upgrade my core player for free?
I cant seem to find the info on there web site.
Thanks for the help!!

donatom3 said:
I just downloaded it on my Touch. So far with the one file i actually had on my Touch the QTV driver shows the video with a black screen. The file plays when I have GDI. I was assuming the Touch may use the same QTV driver. But I think I remember somewhere that BetaBoy wrote that this was for Mpeg4 files only. So i'll look. I was able to run a bench mark using the GDI and QTV settings though. QTV did about 10% higher on this small file.
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Please send a sample of the video via www.yousendit.com to [email protected] so we can take a look at it... thx!!

FYI.... also the speed difference will ONLY be available within CorePlayer itelf when playing back ANY video (not just ASP). Although ASP plays pretty damn flawless based on the early feedback.

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Please send a sample of the video via www.yousendit.com to [email protected] so we can take a look at it... thx!!
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Beta Boy it turns out it isn't the file. I even tried a couple of different mpeg 4 files encoded at 640x480. They play fine if I have it set to GDI but the second I put QTV on it plays black and the player becomes unresponsive. Now I do have the Vogue Touch which uses the CDMA verison of the Kaiser chipset. The case might be that the changes that were made to core media work on the kaiser only so far.

So theoretically, this proggy should play the videos fine, and utilize the unused hardware?
Is there a demo of this bychance, that we can test on our devices. I would gladly get the software if I could see that it works on my phone.

Imsaffor said:
So theoretically, this proggy should play the videos fine, and utilize the unused hardware?
Is there a demo of this bychance, that we can test on our devices. I would gladly get the software if I could see that it works on my phone.
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Even though my touch can't take advantage of the QTV driver. I do have to admit. This is a real clean player. I've only used the beta's before for youtube, but really like this version leaps and bounds beyond even windows media player. Looks like I gotta relink all my sprint links to go to this player instead of Windows Media. I have to admit this version plays videos better than the others did even in GDI mode.
It's a great program. Hopefully there is something small missing for the Vogue to work with the QTV video mode, but for now in GDI mode it's still leaps and bounds above what I had before. Now gotta figure out how to get youtube to work with this.

you know, both you guys at XDA-Dev as well as the CoreCodec people seem to be trustworthy enough. I'm currently RMAing my cracked phone. So I'll lurk this topic to see if its worked on other peoples phones. If the results seem positive. Then It'll be the first bit of software i install on the new Tilt that'll come in.

beta_boy--Thanks
Hi beta_boy,
Because of your support for our issues, I purchased CorePlayer for our device , but am a vid newb, so having issues, I'll check out the forums on your site.
Alemaker

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Got it. Seems to be better

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Got it. Seems to be better
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Post a bit more info please.
Compare different video files in format/bitrate you have already tried without changing anything else on your device. Subjective will do for the moment as most on here will only be happy with a 'visual' improvement as benchmark figures are no substitute for 'bloody great improvement' !!
Need to know this info (drooling at the mouth at the moment!!)
Many thanks.

Just downloaded it. Looked at two different movies, one in MP4 and one in M4V format. Subjectively they look better, playback was smooth as was motion. Hard to quantify of course (and there is likely a placebo effect)e but overall I'd say it's an improvement.

edit nevermind

convert video or coreplayer?

hi...as the topic....is there any programs or hack that can let me play all the video files( at least all the famous one) at my kaiser?
btw, is the kaiser originally able to play avi file?

samlee860407 said:
hi...as the topic....is there any programs or hack that can let me play all the video files( at least all the famous one) at my kaiser?
btw, is the kaiser originally able to play avi file?
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CorePlayer Mobile.

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CorePlayer Mobile.
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can it play .flv files? I think not.

hm....after some downloading, i use tcpmp0.72 and it seems sux and very very slow @@
while seems tcpm0.81 is even worse...
i will try coreplayer mobile...thanks

ahh... i need to buy it, cant even try? :'(
is there any free alternative?

TCPMP is the business... it's free, it runs pretty much any video file, and it's just as fast as WMP.

Audio said:
TCPMP is the business... it's free, it runs pretty much any video file, and it's just as fast as WMP.
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but if you want SPEED, go for CorePlayer

Audio said:
TCPMP is the business... it's free, it runs pretty much any video file, and it's just as fast as WMP.
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hm...so its 0.72version better or the 0.81 version better??
and isit possible to get a trial version of core player ?
doesnt want to fork out money for something that dont suits me

hm....after some more reading and trying
i got few more question to ask
1st : is there any free video converter that i can use and convert the video file and upload it to my kaiser? if there is can you guys link me some?
2nd: as like some here suggest, coreplayer, will the video quality that being played in the kaiser using coreplayer is better(or faster) if compared to the video quality of a converted video?
thanks

For converting, try this thread

samlee860407 said:
hm....after some downloading, i use tcpmp0.72 and it seems sux and very very slow @@
while seems tcpm0.81 is even worse...
i will try coreplayer mobile...thanks
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Try to put your video settings to Raw Buffering or GDI, it will go faster.
And search first next time, this has been said a dozen times...

thanks alot for all the answers man...i had search but seems too much complain about it
hehe...
am using divx to convert now...but would like to ask how will the quality of core media player if compared to it?
the quality of the file converted is not that bad...but will core media better?

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Bingo, same opinion

Will we ever get smooth graphics on X1?

Im talking about watching movies, playing games - i dont know what the reason its so slow but it is painfully slow. its bothering me a lot. it seems like older much cheaper phones can play video much better than our phones.
is it a hardware fault (no hope) or a software fault ?

its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
anyways, my videos and some 3d games run pretty fast on my phone.
not java games cause those arent hardware supported

I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...

a game like archibalds adventure cant even scroll properly. i mean it looks like it was taken out of the 80s.

Maybe it is because this phone has up to 5 times more pixels then previous phones you have owned?

whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them

tehnoobzorz said:
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
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Care to recommend a ROM?

orangedavie said:
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
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It copes with them just fine. it just wasn't made with gaming in mind.

Shadowdh said:
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.

Yeah, I have to agree. 5X the pixels means nothing if the phone can't handle them

No problem for me with video...
-I recode vidéo in 800*480 with HTC Touch HD Video Converter
-I use Windows Media Player to watch video

rom im using
im using touch it xperience 3.5 but i've heard touch it 2.2 was faster

from now on if it has qualcom in the hardware spec im gonna avoid it like the plague!

I gotta admit, just when I start being happy with the Xperia video.....
I'll look over at some movie my wife is watching on the iphone and just shake my head. The Xperia is NOT impressive in the video dept. I can get video to play to ALMOST lag free and it looks pretty dang good. But c'mon already! With the hardware capabilities of this phone, video should look all around amazing.

KennyXL said:
What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
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I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...

I dont get it. I have a stock ROM and my video is perfect. I downloaded an Ipod converted (m4v) version of Superbad and it looks and sounds amazing FULL screen btw). All i had to do was rename the file to mp4 and it works perfectly! Maybe there is something else going on with you guys phones. I also have Anchorman, SemiPro, and several others running perfectly. Besides TF3D, i dont have any other plug ins installed.

I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness

creamy said:
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
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i dont see why I have to convert videos to another format.

Shadowdh said:
I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen. Ideally, you shouldn't even have to recode video you ripped yourself. In theory you should be able to rip once and play on all your appliances that are video capable using a standard codec with reasonable settings. An avi file 1.3 gigabytes in size for a 2 hour movie is entirely reasonable and I highly doubt that you can achieve that with the X1 in its current state. I've tried extensively and the only way you can make it play with any level of smoothness is by dramatically reducing the resolution or dropping the bitrate precipitously. You can't just drag an acceptable video from your computer onto this phone and expect it to play acceptably the way it is right now. As for the expectation that it's only a phone I say that the drivers are the only thing that prevent it from meeting the expectations. I'll bet the hardware is there, but HTC just feels like being cheap. Heck, there are phones debuting at MWC right now that do full motion 1080p playback of h.264 video. The X1, which isn't more than a few months old, can't smoothly play back a 640x480 1,500 kbs video. At $700 retail and their promise of a full-featured multi-media device that is scandalous. I dare anyone to say otherwise.

KennyXL said:
You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen.
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You sound much more knowledgable than me so I wont try to argue with you, but I have quite a few avi files that are around the 800mb size that play very well and are crisp and clear even on a bigger screen (my laptop is 15.4 and pc is 19inches), in fact I find it pretty rare to have an avi file over 900 Mb for a standard movie (up to 2hours I would guess is pretty standard)... As another poster a couple of posts back mentioned, I notice a few problems that people are having that I dont... thank goodness as with my level of understanding I would be hard pressed to now what it is I need to search for to fix the problem...

Where and what are the best custom video drivers you can install for x1?

Because i heard they can improve video playback and i was just wondering if they actually do and if so then where i can find them?
thanks,

Maybe this is what you are looking for? X2 video driver:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587176

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496528
imho the only drivers I've tried that actually changes something for better. nfs uc is more smooth with those.
pack 3 is the proper one...

Heyo Bronx, did you try Coreplayer playing SD xvid files off the memory stick?
I don't mind so much converting but boy would it be nice just to plop them down on my phone and play smoothly. I'll give it a whirl myself tomorrow hopefully.

Deetz said:
Heyo Bronx, did you try Coreplayer playing SD xvid files off the memory stick?
I don't mind so much converting but boy would it be nice just to plop them down on my phone and play smoothly. I'll give it a whirl myself tomorrow hopefully.
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Coreplayer stutters with files of bitrate higher than 500kb/s with Vulcan (X2) drivers. :X

rickysio said:
Coreplayer stutters with files of bitrate higher than 500kb/s with Vulcan (X2) drivers. :X
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not from my end, my movies are perfect at 700+ kbps

spikegotti said:
not from my end, my movies are perfect at 700+ kbps
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Maybe I need to update the drivers before I test again. :X

Deetz said:
Heyo Bronx, did you try Coreplayer playing SD xvid files off the memory stick?
I don't mind so much converting but boy would it be nice just to plop them down on my phone and play smoothly. I'll give it a whirl myself tomorrow hopefully.
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i got the pack 3 driver pack installed and i´m watching videos from the sc card with coreplayer^^
if you set video qualy to high then it lags sometimes and fast moves or something like that are shown like a diashow xD
on medium the video runs perfect...but often the pictures are...mhm...i dont know how to say....my english is bad....but i think blurry is the right word....dont know sry xD
mhm.....but i got also gfxboost 1.2 installed and enabled....i should disable it and test it again^^

but on medium they can get really blurry which i guess is the compensation - and to be honest i found playing xvid stuff that the drivers didnt really help >.< guess we'll have to wait for X2 official release to get drivers (January 10th the release date now)

lol....damn^^
i deactivated gfxboost and then played a normal movie in xvid/divx(700mb size)....at high quality....damn good and perfect smooth^^
and then i tried a game which lagged when i had gfxboost activated^^....after deactivating gfxboost the game runs smooth =D no lags^^
i think i will let it deactivated but still installed^^ but the driverpack 3 is a must have it improves a lot every application which got some grafics run much smoother ^^

best hd/ video player?

I tried rock player lite, but it doesn't play hd vids very smoothly; I transcoded Star Trek 2009 to mp4, and its very jerky and doesn't play smooth..
Any other video players that you guys might recommend?
thanks so much; lovin' this damn thing!!!

atomb said:
The best I have used so far is MoboPlayer (http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html) You have to use the medium version since the Xoom doesn't support Neon. This is the only player I could get to play 720p video smoothly. Hope that helps and if you find something better let me know!
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I tried this and it works the best out of all i have tried. Make sure you get the medium version and not the Neon version.

unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..

wase4711 said:
unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..
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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.

I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
Sent from my Xoom using my Xoom

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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.
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thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!

Any news on the android version of VLC??

wase4711 said:
thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!
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The Xoom can easily handle 720p videos. I haven't tested 1080. It all depends on how you encode the video.
From what I've seen on the threads and in personal experience, there are really only two viable players: the Android native video player, and RockPlayer. Between these two, you should be able to enjoy all your video, provided you have encoded them correctly.

I hate converting videos, thats why i use mobo. Its played all my videos great. Much better than Rock played, vplayer advance same spot.

found one!
Vital player will play everything for me, including 1080p videos that I have encoded with Handbrake..
Loving this thing!!

rockplayer and the stock video player handles blu rays i convert with handbrake very well

I tried different players and playback quality is mostly the same. Perhaps minor, but I like the interface in mVideoPlayer - posters, IMDB links etc.

I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.

what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..

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what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..
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Two reasons really.
Lets face facts that the majority of us here own a Xoom because we are Android nerds and already own a Android phone. So purchasing Plex on your phone will give you access to it on your Xoom when its available. In truth you can install it on your Xoom already, the video just does not work in the current release.
Two there is no quicker way to know about its updated release for Honeycomb compatibility then to have it already installed and letting the market inform you.
Lastly this is a community page and a community OS, so keeping others informed is kind of the way things work. If you have a problem with someone telling you that there will soon be an app released that will do X, but you cant have it yet, mumble quietly to yourself, but keep it to yourself.

ritalin said:
I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.
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Does it play local files yet or all still streamed from server? Also, any clue of an ETA?

dch921 said:
I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
Sent from my Xoom using my Xoom
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Do you mean using stock player in hardware decoding mode?
How do you do this? I can't find the options for the stock player.
Thanks

QQPlayer is free and doesnt want any special permissions
Hi,
I use QQPlayer. It plays everything I have thrown at it and it does not need any special permissions to install.
-TheHoovie

I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.

patass said:
I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.
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Obviously wasn't high profile or it would have stuttered without sound.