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Is there a cab file for att tilt that puts the weather forecast on the homescreen? I don't want the htc home either- its over-rated, buggy, and almost always an inaccurate forecast. its more like a postcast. I have no use for that.
Weather on Today screen
I would recommend that you use something like SPB Weather or Pocket weather. There are several good today screen weather apps out there. Many have a trial ware that you could test out to see what you think. I wish the HTC Home weather app could be modified to show more info and such.
Kevin
I'm working on a Homescreen PlusPlus theme that uses a mortscript weather(accuweather feed)that I wrote. Has icons in sliding dock at bottom for the 5 page views and other icons for app launching. The notifications appear on main screen when they don't have a 0 count(otherwise they are invisible). Weather has current page(current condition, precip, humidity, visibility, barometer, winds, sunset and rise, uv level, air pollen level, dewpoint), forecast page(forecast temps, conditions, estimated precip, winds), and radar page. Homescreen plusplus also supports gestures, so you can swipe to side to change views also. Like I said though, still working on it, should be done in a few days.
While thousands of apps have been released since Android's release, there have been relatively few widgets created (for obvious reasons). However, some do exist, and when mixed in with all of the fart apps and soundboards, it can be quite difficult to catch new ones. That being said, a thread tracking all released widgets could probably be beneficial to many. I'll try to update this first post with others' comments as more widgets are released, so feel free to share any I may have missed, or that have just come out.
Also, the widgets should be mainly universal, able to work on multiple homes. If a widget is only intended for, say, aHome, please include that information. Listing dimensions would also be nice.
So far:
Analog clock: The one from 1.0 (2 x 2)
aniCalendar*: A monthly calendar, that can be changed to a clock, as well. Available for $.99 on the Market, but definitely worth the price (2 x 2).
BBC News Widget*: Self-explanatory; gives recent news. When clicked, gives more news stories (1 x 4).
Calendar: One of my favorite; shows upcoming appointment times and locations from your Google Calendar. Also displays the day of the week and the date (2 x 2).
Forecast*: A great little widget that shows the day's high, low, and type of weather (sunny, rainy, etc.). When clicked, provides a forecast for the next few days right on the home screen (1 x 1; larger 2 x 1 version available).
Music: Extremely useful; allows you to play/plause/skip/previous right from the home screen (1 x 4).
Picture frame: The one from 1.0; self-explanatory (2 x 2).
Quick calendar*: While the app is excellent, the widget definitely needs polishing. Currently, places a small block on your home screen showing your next couple appointments. Available after downloading the Quick Calendar app (2 x 2, I believe).
Retro clock*: A digital clock with a retro look (2 x 2).
Search: The one from 1.0; self-explanatory (1 x 4).
Sticky note*: Great widget; appears as an icon of a sticky note (why there is a push-pin alludes me). Once clicked, the widget expands showing you a larger note, which can be edited quite easily (1 x 1).
Weather: Provides some details regarding the day's weather (1 x 4).
Yahoo News*: Very similar to BBC news, but of course, from a different news source (1 x 4).
* Available for download in Market.
Some more, thanks to q426669:
q426669 said:
All links are to Cyrket.com.
Battery Widget (1x1)
Weather widget (2x1 - Shows CURRENT temp, downloads google weather images)
Engadget News
Dilbert Widget (1x3)
Neatorma News
Webcam
Earthquake!
Gizmodo News
Battery Widget #2
As far as I know that's all of em released at this time. No 3rd party (marketless) widgets included.
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It would be handy if you included links to the applications that are not on the market.
Besides that: Thanks
All links are to Cyrket.com.
Battery Widget (1x1)
Weather widget (2x1 - Shows CURRENT temp, downloads google weather images)
Engadget News
Dilbert Widget (1x3)
Neatorma News
Webcam
Earthquake!
Gizmodo News
Battery Widget #2
As far as I know that's all of em released at this time. No 3rd party (marketless) widgets included.
Engadget news: all news widgets by same author. size(1x4) click widget to get more artlicle info, also leads to website
BBC news: same
Gizmodo news: same
Yahoo news: same
earthquake: havnt tried the widget yet but app is cool, shows notifications of earthquakes around the world
you didn't mention the best thing about Bratag's excellent Sticky Note widget
When you press the camera button while either the title or note body field is selected (when editing or creating a sticky), it performs a voice-to-text conversion so you speak your sticky notes into the phone instead of typing. Very cool.
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It would be handy if you included links to the applications that are not on the market.
Besides that: Thanks
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The ones not provided in the market are all, I believe, part of the 1.5 firmware. I run dxTop, and they are all available without downloading anything else. Thus, they should be available with the standard Home. I'm not sure about aHome or OpenHome.
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When you press the camera button while either the title or note body field is selected (when editing or creating a sticky), it performs a voice-to-text conversion so you speak your sticky notes into the phone instead of typing. Very cool.
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This doesn't seem to be working for me. Are you holding the camera button down while speaking?
Binary Clock
dxtop weather widget
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.android.dxtop.widget.weather
SD Card Memory Widget
Terrorism Threat Level Widget
Giu Battery Widget
Internal Memory Widget
WikiArticle Widget
FML Widget
jay652 said:
This doesn't seem to be working for me. Are you holding the camera button down while speaking?
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just tap it, then it should pop right up
ei8htohms said:
When you press the camera button while either the title or note body field is selected (when editing or creating a sticky), it performs a voice-to-text conversion so you speak your sticky notes into the phone instead of typing. Very cool.
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This is awesome I like the app that much more now.
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This is awesome I like the app that much more now.
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no bull.. thats cool
WifiToggle is very nice. There is/was also another widget by this company, Rounded Labs, which toggles your ringer between silent, vibrate and on. I couldn't find it on cyrket though.
Brightness Toggle Widget
Thanks for the tip. With the improved security for widgets, I see new ones popping up every day now (Google's Android market).
The guys you mentioned added a Brightness Toggle Widget as well. If only I could add these 1x1 widgets to folders...
Here's the Ringer Toggle Widget by the way.
If you can't find Cyrket stuff, try again later, I suspect there might be performance issues. The traffic is probably getting impressive and increasing every day...
Thanks JJah. These widgets are great. The guys at rounded labs need to add a fourth one for gps or something so I have a complete row. I agree about putting them in a folder too. Another option that would be cool would be the ability to edit the colors. I like the blue, but I also like to switch wallpapers and it looked kind of weird with a bright red bg.
Simple Widget Pack
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Simple Widget Pack
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thanks for posting about my SimpleWidgetPack, I just thought i would mention the widget sizes and other information here for anyone interested
Simple Time - 2x1, display the current time, option for 12 or 24 hour clock
Simple Date - 2x1, display the current date in the form "XXX YY" where XXX is the first 3 letters of the month and YY is the numerical date
Simple Battery - 1x1, display the current battery charge as a percentage
Simple Temperature - 1x1, displays the current temperature as a degree, uses Google weather api to retrieve temperature based off of the location that you enter. Options for update interval time, and farenheit/celsius
All four widgets have options to change the text color and background color.
The application is available through the Android Market for $0.99
Ill promote my own widgets
* TimerWidget (1x1):
a timer that can be set in minutes... progress will be shown in a modern hourglass on the homescreen and it will vibrate/ring when the time is elapsed )
* VolumeWidget (1x1):
a widget thats shows the current ring mode ( vibrate / silent /ring ) and the volume. By clicking on the widget you can set the ring mode and the volume with a slider
Both can be downloaded in the market in Applications \ Productivity
Both widgets are totally free, but include a banner on their settings screen.
you what would great? if there was an XDA-Dream widget
Well, as the title says, after downloading the app I get an error that it can't launch, it also doesn't appear in the app tray. Maybe it's not meant to launch because it's an addon, but I don't see any extra options in the weather widget app. Any help?
u dont launch it. it replaces the standard forecast when you click on the weather widget. so to "launch" u have to have the weather widget first on your homescreen. you are suppose to download and install the addon through the weather widget settings page. also u have to be running the donate full version.
I want to reduce the number of screen elements to the bare minimum that will still allow me to see at a glance the information I need yet still allow me quick and easy assess to the phone's functions and applications. I've never been one for clutter either at my desk, in my home or even my dress. My phone might as well reflex my taste and go minimalist too.
This is a work in progress and I would like to hear what you think of my efforts so far and your ideas on how I can improve upon it while maintaining my goal of keeping the phone informative and functional.
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Lock screen || Right | Home | Left || Folders
What you don't see in the screenshots are the invisible app buttons made possible by Transparent Launcher or the unlabelled SiMi Folder Widgets both of which hide away those items which I do not want advertised. I'm debating whether to remove the labels from the three visible folder widgets. Maybe only I will know where each function is but I'm the only user of the phone anyway.
Also not evident visually is LauncherPro's ability to assign dual functions, assessed by either a tap or a swipe, to each of the 15 dock items. The 30 apps that I can launch this way serve the vast majority of my needs. Each dock item shares closely related tasks like Dialer (tap) and Call-Log (swipe), SMS and Instant-Messenger, or App Market and QR Code Scanner. However, I'm thinking about reducing the number of docks from 3 sets of five to just 1 set, dumping quick assess to some of the least used apps and transferring the difference to Transparent Launcher widgets.
I'm also taking advantage of the fact that most information widgets also act as app launchers. In this case tapping the SiMi Clock Widget will launch the Alarm Clock, tapping the header of LauncherPro's Agenda widget launches the Calendar and tapping the 2 line appointment reminder (Calendr) also launches the Calendar but set to the agenda view instead of the calendar view.
I'm hoping that the developer of SiMi Clock Widget will implement a user request I second. In the attached screen shots, I would love to remove the weather and battery from the center home screen to the screen on it's right where they would replace the redundant clock I have there now.
Below is an AppBrain linked list of the theme related apps I using:
Lock screen >> SiMi Clock Widget || Calendr || WidgetLocker Lockscreen
Home >> SiMi Clock Widget || Calendr || LauncherPro || Dreamlyfe.mini Text Dock Icons
Right >> LauncherPro's Calendar/Agenda widget || Dreamlyfe.mini Text Dock Icons
Left/Folders >> SiMi Clock Widget || SiMi Folder Widgets || Transparent Launcher || Dreamlyfe.mini Text Dock Icons
The lock screen is meant to convey the most basic information I might need on the run. Turn of the screen and there is the time and my next appointment.
The home screen is all about the phone as a phone, a communication and location device. The right screen is for the phone as a computer. Dictionaries and wiki's, social networks, games and tools live here along with some app maintenance functions.
Unfortunately, the left screen is a bit schizophrenic right now. It was originally meant to be solely about multimedia with simple controls for controlling music, podcasts and audiobooks, however I found myself opening the calendar/agenda app more often than I had anticipated and had to give-in and place the widget on a screen. I wanted to keep the phone as fun and free as possible but had to concede to the commitments of life. I need to morph this screen into a Work/Finance area and either banish the multimedia functions to a fourth screen, add them as invisible apps somewhere or create another folder on the right screen. None of those options are appealing.
I'm also looking for a replacement for LauncherPro's Calendar/Agenda widget. I want something that will lay the text of a scrolling agenda list straight over the wallpaper. Basically something like the LauncherPro widget but without the dark grey backgrounds and hopefully more compact. I haven't found anything suitable yet so I might have to bite the bullet and learn how to re-skin the LauncherPro widget myself.
There it is. I like the direction it going. I think it has potential. Any suggestions?
ipottinger said:
I'm also looking for a replacement for LauncherPro's Calendar/Agenda widget. I want something that will lay the text of a scrolling agenda list straight over the wallpaper. Basically something like the LauncherPro widget but without the dark grey backgrounds and hopefully more compact. I haven't found anything suitable yet so I might have to bite the bullet and learn how to re-skin the LauncherPro widget myself.
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Android Agenda Widget is good for this. The look is very customisable, has a transparency option, and you can also have gtasks showing on the same scrollable widget. Very nice, and free.
I suggest using Quickdesk as an alternative to having folders or anything like that. Essentially, double tapping the home button brings up an extra homescreen (can be from inside an app, too) so you can quickly get to a range of apps and widgets.
I have two homescreens - one for clock/weather/calendar/controls and one for my generic tools (Tweetdeck, Market, Maps, etc). Quickdesk gets me to a bunch of specialist applications, and the app drawer gets me to the rest.
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Updated my setup. Now I'm using Go Launcher Ex instead of Launcher Pro. To keep things even more minimalist, I have a single dock icon which takes me to Quick Desk when tapped. I set my home button to Quick Desk as well, so I can easily switch between my apps when I'm not on my home screen. Quick Desk is an amazing multitasking app which basically gives you an extra home screen, where you can add apps and even widgets for easy access. The best thing about it is that, as I mentioned before, you can set this app as your default home button.
This is my setup. I don't know if it will be of any use for you since everyone has their own personal preferences and needs. Maybe mines will give you a different perspective or spark some new ideas (or maybe not).
I only use 1 home screen with Go Launcher Ex and with my status bar hidden. I have never seen the need to have multiple home screens. I tried to keep everything as efficient and minimal as possible while still maintaining some degree of aesthetics. Whenever I'm bored with my wallpaper, I could always swap the painting with another in Photoshop to give it a new look. Due to this, I don't need to change the layout of my home screen, move widgets around, or switch icons because the layout of my wallpaper is consistent. I like it this way. The rest of my widget and dock details are down below.
Home Screen
- swiping up on my home screen opens the app drawer
- swiping down on my home screen launches Quick Settings
Widgets
Android Agenda Widget
- tapping on individual calendar events opens its events details
- tapping on the bottom right corner of the widget opens its "uber" menu where you can add events, change settings, or view your whole calendar
This is a great widget in my opinion. It can sync to a lot of third party calendar and task apps such as Astrid. It has a lot of customization options as well. It's scrollable too if it's a feature that you need in a calendar widget.
Simi Clock
- tapping on the left side of the widget launches Clock
- tapping on the middle of the widget opens its quick 5 app menu
- tapping on the right side of the widget launches Genie/News and Weather
Simi Clock has all the daily info that I need in one small package including time, date, weather, battery, and it can launch apps.
Dock icons
Apps
- tapping launches Quick Desk containing my most used apps and widgets
- while in Quick Desk, tapping on the "Multimedia" icon in the top right opens Apps Organizer shortcut that contains a folder of my 20 most used multimedia apps (music, video, photo, games)
- while in Quick Desk, tapping on the "Misc" icon in the top right opens Apps Organizer shortcut that contains a folder of 20 utility apps that I occasionally use
- swiping up on apps dock icon opens notifications (in Launcher Pro and Go Launcher Ex you can assign dual functions to your dock icons for tapping and swiping)
I didn't want any scrolling to make things more efficient. That's why I only kept it down to 20 apps in a folder, which is the most you can fit on the screen at one time, or at least on my Captivate for that matter.
@raven369 you place the picture in the frame on the wallpaper? Or do you use a picture frame widget? Like your layout
Tsjoklat said:
@raven369 you place the picture in the frame on the wallpaper? Or do you use a picture frame widget? Like your layout
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Thanks. It's actually a part of the wallpaper that I put together and not a picture frame widget. I couldn't find any widgets with any good looking frames so I just Photoshopped it into my wallpaper.
Boonja said:
Android Agenda Widget is good for this. The look is very customisable, has a transparency option, and you can also have gtasks showing on the same scrollable widget. Very nice, and free.
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Thanks Boonja for the suggestion.
I did find Pure Calendar widget but have noticed a few rendering glitches with it. Sometimes the agenda items don't appear at all. I'll give Android Agenda Widget a try.
PalaNIN said:
I suggest using Quickdesk as an alternative to having folders or anything like that. Essentially, double tapping the home button brings up an extra homescreen (can be from inside an app, too) so you can quickly get to a range of apps and widgets.
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That looks very interesting. My concern though is that according to it description it might not work with LauncherPro. I'll give it a try and see if it works and how it feels. Thanks for the suggestion.
@raven369 I love your icons. I think they're perfect for me. Care to share them?
raven369 said:
This is my setup. ... Maybe mines will give you a different perspective or spark some new ideas (or maybe not).
I only use 1 home screen with Launcher Pro and with my status bar hidden. I have never seen the need to have multiple home screens. I tried to keep everything as efficient and minimal as possible while still maintaining some degree of aesthetics. Whenever I'm bored with my wallpaper, I could always swap the painting with another in Photoshop to give it a new look. Due to this, I don't need to change the layout of my home screen, move widgets around, or switch icons because the layout of my wallpaper is consistent. I like it this way.
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Wow, nice and clean. And just one screen too. You've set the bar quite high.
raven369 said:
Android Agenda Widget
- tapping on individual calendar events opens its events details
- tapping on the bottom right corner of the widget opens its "uber" menu where you can add events, change settings, or view your whole calendar
This is a great widget in my opinion. It can sync to a lot of third party calendar and task apps such as Astrid. It has a lot of customization options as well. It's scrollable too if it's a feature that you need in a calendar widget.
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This looks very promising. I'll definitely try this. Thanks for point it out!
raven369 said:
Simi Clock
- tapping on the left side of the widget launches Clock
- tapping on the middle of the widget opens its quick 5 app menu
- tapping on the right side of the widget launches Genie/News and Weather
Simi Clock has all the daily info that I need in one small package including time, date, weather, battery, and it can launch apps.
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I should try and take move advantage of Simi Clock app launching ability. I don't know why I've ignore it till now.
raven369 said:
Favs
- tapping opens Apps Organizer shortcut that contains a folder of my 20 most used utility apps
- swiping up opens Apps Organizer shortcut that contains a folder of my 20 most used multimedia apps (music, video, photo, games)
I didn't want any scrolling to make things more efficient. That's why I only kept it down to 20 apps in a folder, which is the most you can fit on the screen at one time, or at least on my Captivate for that matter.
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This sounds complicated. The description mentions labels which I've not heard of before. I'm fairly new to all this. I got my Samsung Vibrant just a couple of months ago and only worked up the nerve to start mod'ing it a few weeks ago. I think this app will take some thought before I could effectively utilize it.
You certainly have given me quite a bit to think about. I can see now that there is still plenty of room even on a single screen to have all the info and functionality I want. It might take me awhile to get there but at least now I now how far I could possible go. Thanks!
ipottinger said:
This sounds complicated. The description mentions labels which I've not heard of before. I'm fairly new to all this. I got my Samsung Vibrant just a couple of months ago and only worked up the nerve to start mod'ing it a few weeks ago. I think this app will take some thought before I could effectively utilize it.
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Apps Organizer is actually a very easy app to use. It can be downloaded in the market plus it's free. I can teach you how to use it.
Once you open the app you have 2 categories: Apps and Labels. The Apps category pretty much just lists all of your apps. If you go to the Labels category you can create labels which are essentially folders. Just use the menu key on your phone to create a "New Label." Once you've created your new label hold/long press it and click on "Select Apps." From there just check off all the apps you want in the label. You can also rename your label the same way by long pressing it and clicking on "Rename."
Now if you go back to your dock on your home screen you can create an Apps Organizer shortcut. Just long press on your dock, select "Change Shortcut," select Apps Organizer, and then choose the label you want as the shortcut. If you don't like the icon just long press it on your dock and select "Change Icon." I'm sure you know how to put shortcuts on your dock already so this paragraph may be redundant information to you.
Can you save and upload your settings for Android Agenda Widget. I just can't get it to look like yours no matter what I do :/
So glad I stumbled on this thread - the design goals in the OP is exactly what I am going for, and I was tired of going thru tons and tons of pages in the various "Post your homescreens" threads here on XDA and AndroidForums to gain inspiration. Now hopefully I can just come here instead!
raven369 said:
Apps Organizer is actually a very easy app to use. It can be downloaded in the market plus it's free. I can teach you how to use it.
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Is it any different than FolderOrganizer? I use this and i think it is excellent.
Also, I find that the minimalistic text widget to be awesome. It is super customizable and has tasker integration, which is way cool.
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Is it any different than FolderOrganizer? I use this and i think it is excellent.
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Apps Organizer is actually made by the same developer as Folder Organizer. Folder Organizer is more feature heavy. Apps Organizer can only organize apps while Folder Organizer can organize apps, bookmarks, contacts and also place apps in your notification bar as well. However, Folder Organizer isn't free and the lite version disables the majority of the features.
Fidyyuan said:
Can you save and upload your settings for Android Agenda Widget. I just can't get it to look like yours no matter what I do :/
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What phone do you own? I'm reluctant to upload my settings file because I don't know if mine will be compatible with yours if we use different phones and calendars. i just don't want to end up mucking your phone.
Have you tried these settings?
Code:
Appearance -> Themes -> "Minimalist" or "Minimal with date" (Sorry, I don't remember which theme I exactly used but I'm sure it was one of these)
Row Style -> inline
Row Settings -> Row Background -> off
Date Row Settings -> Day Row Background -> solid no pad
Date Row Color AND Date Row Transparency -> set everything to transparent
Text & Font Settings -> Text Highlights -> everything off
Bold the Date -> on
Advanced -> leave everything off for simple and more complicated settings
Toggle Skin Elements -> on
Use Frankenstein -> off
Customize Skin Colors -> Skin Color Customization -> on
Widget Color -> set Background Tint to black while everything else to transparent
Buttons & Toolbars -> I had toolbars turned off. I had right button #2 turned on with uber button action and its style all transparent.
This should give you a layout similar to mine. If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.
I use calendr for my calendar widget. It only shows one event at a time. Also, I use a lot of minimalistic text widget.
A knew one just dropped a few days ago, good for organizing apps on your homescreen: circlelauncher
pretty sharp looking too, you'll need your own icon though.
To me, any minimal calendar widget that doesn't display the location of the upcoming event is flawed. I also use Calendr, but I can't stand that I have to click on it to see the location of my next meeting.
This calendar widget and setting is exactly what I have been looking for. Thanks.
It even has tasks that sync to google incorporated into the theme. Perfect and minimal.
One thing, what setting kills the color of the calendar as a bullet? I want the totally clear look, no color.
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I posted the icons as an attachment. Enjoy.
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Thanks for sharing the icons. Are there more? I'll like to see web and profile/contacts if possible.
sorry a question. Where did you get the text icons for the SiMi folder widget (reference, social, games). I like your layout very much.
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Thanks
I have almost the same setup, but I use SiMi folder instead of Folder Organizer and I use Phantom Music Control for the music widget in QD. @raven369 why did you go with Go Launcher?
Putting this thread together to give you guys a variety of Launchers i found on the market. So rather than having to find them all over the place i will keep everything here in one place and will try and find as many as i can and update the thread with any further updates the developers release for the launchers.
Apex Launcher
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Features include:
Customizable homescreen grid size and up to 9 homescreens
Scrollable dock with up to 7 icons per page and up to 5 pages
Infinite & elastic scrolling (homescreen, drawer and dock)
Fancy transition effects (tablet, cube, etc.)
Hide elements as you want (persistent search bar, status bar, or even the dock)
Customizable icons and labels for shortcuts and folders
Choose different folder preview styles and background
Multiple drawer styles (transparent/opaque, horizontal/vertical, paginated/continuous)
Drawer apps sorting (title, install date, mostly used)
Hide apps from the drawer
Lock your desktop to prevent accidental changes
Enjoy homescreen gestures (pinch, swipe up/down, double tap)
Advanced theme engine (icon packs, skins, etc.)
Backup/restore settings and data
Optimized for both phones and tablets
Lots of other customization options!
Apex Launcher Pro unlocks the following features:
- Multiple configurable drawer tabs
- Unread count notifications
- Dock swipe gestures
- Two finger gestures
- More transition effects
- ADW, LauncherPro, and Go Launcher theme support
- Batch add option for folders
- Option to merge folder contents
- Widgets in dock (1x1 only)
- Overlapping widgets
Nova Launcher
Features include:
Scrollable Dock (for Tablets and Phones)
Keep all your favorite apps on the dock, with up to 7 icons per page and up to 3 pages.
Customizable App Drawer:
Transparency
Scrolling style, choose between horizontal paginated or vertical continuous
Scroll Effects
Enjoy eye candy when scrolling your desktop and drawer. Effects include Cube and Cardstack and more for Prime users.
Infinite Scroll
Never be far from your favorite page, loop through your desktop continuously.
Folder Icons
You can chose a background, preview style or even replace the whole icon.
Backup/Restore
Export your settings and layout before a wipe to quickly get back up and running.
Widgets in dock
Add any 1x1 widget to the dock
Bulk Add
Add multiple apps to the desktop or a folder at once
Activities shortcut
Select hidden activities from your favorite apps
*Nova Launcher Prime Features (Paid version)*
Highly customizable, performance driven, home screen replacement for Android 4.0+
Nova Launcher Prime unlocks the following features in Nova Launcher:
Drawer Groups:
Folders in App Drawer
Unlimited custom tabs
Organize apps into tabs and folders in the app drawer
Gestures
Quickly start Nova Actions or Apps from gestures on the desktop, such as pinching, swiping or two-finger swiping.
Hide Apps
Keep a clutter free drawer by hidding never used apps.
Dock Swipes
Get more use out of your dock apps by setting swipe-actions
Unread Counts
Never miss an email. Unread count badges for SMS, Missed calls and Gmail. Counts show in the dock, desktop, drawer and folders.
More Scroll Effects
Zeam Launcher
Description
To add Applications grid shortcut, select Add > Shortcuts > Applications grid.
Try toggle Manage wallpaper if screen scrolling isn't smooth, select Preferences > Workspace > Manage wallpaper.
Zeam, thanks to its minimal aesthetic, not only looks fast but feels fast. It's also incredibly simple to use, and unlike the other launchers it actually works very well out of the box.
My favorite feature in Zeam is configurable gestures -- but not only can you bind swipe actions, like ADW, but you can also bind double tapping the screen and the Home hardware button to actions.
SSLauncher
Features
Decorate screen with a variety of styles for shortcuts and widgets.
Create a widget poping up when tap a shortcut.
Support formatted text for current date & time, missed calls and unread SMS/MMS messages.
Support scrollable widgets.
Easy and quick access to pages for contacts, bookmarks, application drawer, application group.
Many useful features of application drawer: app parcel(folder), showing/hiding app, marking star for favorites apps, changing application icon and name, uninstalling app and so on
Create application group and manage list by drag and drop.
Save and load your theme, page layouts and settings.
Convert the saved theme file to apk. (contact us by e-mail for more informations)
Hide status bar, open status bar by swiping down.
You can implement nice screen without launcher 7, dvr, minimalistic text, wp clock, clockr etc.
Go Launcher EX Launcher
Features:
Thousands of personalized themes
Various widgets and screen locks (weather, switcher, calendar…)
Extremely smooth transition animation
Smooth flipping operation
User-defined folder to easily categorize apps
Many options in preferences to help you customize you phone!
=Tips=
1. How to get themes, widgets and lockers?
a) Search ‘go launcher theme’, ‘go widget’ or ‘go locker’ in Android Market.
b) Use GO Store via menu button in GO Launcher.
2. How to set transition animation?
Use ‘Effects settings’ via button in GO Launcher.
3. Icons are too small?
Use ‘Icon Size’ option in ‘Preferences->Visual settings->Icons’ to make icons bigger.
3. Long press the app icon to enter editing mode on home screen and app drawer.
4. Glide up to open menu and glide down to pull down notification.
Launcher 7 Windows Phone 7 Style Launcher
Description and features
Unlike other current WP7 launchers (Windows Phone Android, Metro UI), this one allows you to properly modify your start screen. Just long press on a tile and drag tile where you want!
This version is free, but does have an ad in application list. Ad free donate version is available if you don't like the ad.
Also supported:
2 x 1 tiles
Original Windows Phone 7 backgrounds!
Freely configurable tile colors
Launcher options are available from Application List (press menu in app list)
Layout animations
Animated contacts tile! (still work in progress)
Windows 7 Launcher Pro has the following features:
1x1, 2x1 and 1x2 tiles with configurable colors
Widgets in a tile! (provided that widget fits)
Almost real like tile animation
Almost real like tile re-arrange mode
Almost real like status bar
Animated contacts tile (supports G+ synced contacts)
Pinnable contact-tile which animates like the real phone
Folder tiles
Webpage tiles
Picture hub (use with care, it needs memory!!!!)
Filterable application list
Stock wp7-like colors and color selection
CC3D Launcher
Description and features
CC 3D Launcher is a fashion, funny, cool "home replacement" app. It maximizes your user experience on your Android phone, with the newest Android 4.0 feeling.
Highlights:
Simple, Fast, Fluid, Powerful, Efficient, in High Definition
Features:
Android 4.0 Experience
Folder Management(overlay icons to create folder; drive-and-drop icons into folder; rearrange icons of folder)
3D effects: Full 360 degree rotation. Different animations and transitions. Zoom in, zoom out
Various screen transition animations
Apps'icons with special graphic effects
Widgets (weather, switch & monitor, calendar, slides, contacts, SMS, music, etc)
MIUI Home Launcher
Description and features
Optimization: substantially optimize drawing performance, and speed sliding screen switching experience
Optimization: significant reduction in memory size
Optimization: improve the speed of the initial start
Optimization: Improving Desktop to quickly switch design details to improve the animation efficiency
Fix: in some models, press the HOME key to unlock directly
Repair: the icon does not change after changing theme style
Repair: the cascade and the box to cut the screen effects
Fix: some models (NS 4.0.4, etc.) icon layout
Features:
Unique MIUI theme interface and gestures
8000+ Themes, Wallpapers and Ringtones available!
Support for up to 9 screens or more
Works on all NON-MIUI ICS 4.0 based devices.
SPB Shell 3DLauncher
Description and features
Latest update(version 1.6.1)
Has native support for ICS.
They also added homescreen looping and horizontal app drawer.
ADW Launcher
Description and features
ADW.Launcher, beyond tweaking your android desktop
Opensource home replacement app
Customizable application drawer (old one or iphone/galaxy one)
Customizable drag&drop action buttons
Unveil the Dockbar flicking-up the app-drawer button and drop UNLIMITED shortcuts/folders!
Themes
MXHome Launcher
Description and features
MX Home is an launcher application that is specialized in 3D effects on its 'Theme page'
It provides totally different experiences by highlights from 3D effects and creative ideas.
▣ Major Features
Dynamic 3D G-sensor movement
Various graphic & sound effects
Coffee bean poping-out effect by shake
3D water bubble background effect
Shortcuts for 8 major App.’s
Control tray
[Battery, Wi-Fi, BT & sound]
▣ Easy Management
Quick App. manager
*Edit / Info / Delete / Uninstall
Quck task manager
*Just touch on Smart Menu icon at workspace
*Close all application / View recent run
▣ Icon Pack
Workspace Array - 4*4, 5*5
Live icon effect - Zoon, Bounce, Rotation
▣ Dock Bar
MX Button - 3D MX theme open
Scroll type - Horizontal, Vertical
▣ MX Theme
Theme Change : Text -> Image
Theme Position : Up, Down, Left, Right
▣ Application
User Icon' dock menu
*enables a user to change icons at dock menu
Smart menu
*sort by Categrory / ABC / Date
View of memory usage
▣ Icon Pack
Workspace Array - 4*4, 5*5
Live icon effect - Zoon, Bounce, Rotation
▣ Dock Bar
MX Button - 3D MX theme open
Scroll type - Horizontal, Vertical
▣ MX Theme
Theme Change : Text -> Image
Theme Position : Up, Down, Left, Right
Lightning Launcher
Description and features
Lose the fat, keep the muscle. Be warned, Lightning Launcher is on steroïds.
Lightning Launcher: Lose the fat, keep the muscle. Be warned, this launcher is on steroïds.
Tips, please read this first:
Use "LLW App Widget" if you want to add Android widgets.
This app is started through the HOME key and not from your app drawer since LL is itself a launcher. If you cannot select it through the HOME key then you need to clear the defaults for your current launcher.
for any question or suggestion, do not hesitate to ask: [email protected]
This application has been designed to minimize memory usage and be fast: the more memory you have for your applications, the faster they will run. In other words Lightning Launcher has been built from the ground to preserve your phone's resources and keep it smooth.
In spite of its ridiculously small size (less than 60kb!), Lightning Launcher is packed with a fair amount of features and brings to Android a very unique concept: the home screen can be seen as a giant surface on which you are free to put icons, shortcuts or widgets exactly where YOU WANT, and not limited to a 4x4 grid. Pinch to zoom in or out the desktop, use the home key to switch between a full scale view or the normal size, or double tap on empty space as in the web browser to immediately see all your icons. And everything stay functional whatever the zoom level is: widgets are alive, icons can be clicked, and so on.
Lightning Launcher drops rarely used features and focuses on useful ones but comes nevertheless with numerous customization options. Icons and widgets can be moved, scaled and even rotated freely. Each object can be configured independently, you can change the font, the label, the icon and much more !
The package is extremely small, only a few kilobytes. What it means is that the Android system do not need to load several megabytes to run this app. Lightning Launcher starts faster and run in perfect harmony with your other apps.
For people kindly asking why the CALL_PHONE permission is needed (notice that this the only one needed by LL!): this is needed for direct call shortcuts, and this permission is included in all major launchers, including Go and Pro.
For other people not asking why and putting stupid one star comments: go away, you have just lost a unique chance to try something new and better, have a good day.
DXHome Launcher
Description and features
DXHome, a highly customized launcher replacement app., is a perfect launcher for Android phones. It is created by the Dianxinos Enterpriser team in Innovation Works invested by Dr. Kaifu Lee. Highly customizable with various themes, colorful desktop transitions, easy operating……, just like its name in Chinese, Dianxin is making the home of your Android phone colorful and enjoyable!
What could you get from DXHome?
So many themes to enjoy!
Want your phone to change with your mood?! Try themes we designed for you!
DXHome presents its first six themes of totally different styles!
NO.1 Dianxin Default Desktop Theme--- it is peaceful, clear, warm……, all the nice feelings DXHome wants you to feel. Name it by yourself. It’s our gift~^-^~
NO.2 Midsummer Theme--- get fidgety from the hate outside? Pick some cool and fresh air here!
NO.3 Cake Theme--- are you a foody? How about some candy and cakes now~^-^~ Try it and tell us how it’s like? DXHome is “cooking” more and more for you if you like~
NO.4 Batman— a big Batman fan? Here he comes! COOL!
NO.5 Clothing— want your phone to be cute? DXHome makes suit for your icon! Try it on!
NO.6 Tree & Shadow— at the end, come and sit down beside the tree, just enjoy the peaceful nightfall now.
Espier Launcher
Description and features
Espier Launcher is the best launcher for your smartphone
Espier Launcher is a desktop for your smartphone or tablet which is based on Android 2.2 or later. It brings you an entirely new interaction experience, and makes your smartphone and/or tablet to be different from the rest.
Main Features
Simplified Menu
Rename and hide the apps
Theme manager
Icons arrange
Internet
Support android 4.0
EZ Launcher
Description and features
EZ Launcher, the most convenent way to operate your phone.
EZ Launcher(beta) is coming, a cool home replacement app, with the most convenient way to operate & organize your phone.
#Features:
Genius app list brings you the app you most want
Auto category can help you automatically categorize your apps
Quick app search to find the app you want in app list directly
Pre-loaded app manager tool with all task manager, uninstaller, app2sd and etc functions in one place
Useful and handy widgets: Clock & Weather Widget, Task Manager Widget, SMS Widget, Switch Widget, Bookmark Widget, Calendar Widget
Hide folders page, hide apps in app drawer
Balancer Launcher
Description and features
Useful Launcher, good performance, run fast, has cool ui~~
Balancer Launcher is a Home(Launcher) app, like ADWLauncher,LauncherPro,Go Launcher,Launcher7,Zeam,Regina Launcher etc, which is focused on provide users a brief and useful Home. The Launcher has smooth ui effect and perfect performance, it can launch application quickly.
Be compared with some other similar applications, It has better performance and do cut off some useless settings, we think a simple and cool application is what a user wanted exactly and we will try our best to create one for you.
Features:
Support apps' sort
Can uninstall apps quickly
Built-in File Browser
Cool wallpapers
good sunny clock widget
Nemus Launcher
Description and features
A Home replacement Application with
Low memory usage
Quick response
Easy App finding/management
Easy Workspace management
Easy Folder management
[Features]
DockBar page count customization
Page indicator hiding
Grid size customization
Hiding system status bar with gesture
Missed call & Received sms badge display
Widget Resizing
Themes (native ZIP themes & SSKIN themes downloadable from market)
1 to 9 workspaces
Various App list styles
Expandable folders in workspace & app list
Workspace and app menu switchers (screen preview)
Highlight recently used apps
Scrollable bottom docks / QuickSetting docks
Scrollable widgets
App-Hide&Lock / Screen-Lock
FTL Launcher Pro
Description and features
Make no mistake, this is the fastest launcher you'll ever run. Small, light, configurable. The Gingerbread launcher as it should have been. No useless stuff, no compromises. Performance and usability are the driving forces here.
On version 3.0 Pro users have a all new game to play now: The Pro version can use existing ADW, GoLauncher and LauncherPro Icon and Dock themes, giving FTL and unprecedented array of possible theming. You can even mix Dock and Icon themes from different launchers. Google Play is yours for the take.
And of course you still have the other extras: configurable homsecreen grid from 4x4 to 6x6, resizeable widgets, and, never seen in any launcher: control over core Android window animation speed.
Important: FTL supports all resolutions and ICS, but only 800x480, 854x480, 960x540 and 480x320 devices have 3D drawer enabled! Also ICS has no 3D drawer because it does not contain the "old" opengl interface. But as it is natively accelerated anyway, 2D drawer should be very fast.
Features:
Theming support: The Pro version can use existing ADW, GoLauncher and LauncherPro Icon and Dock themes, giving FTL and unprecedented array of possible theming.
Tweaked for extreme speed and smoothness
Fully accelerated 3D Waterfall app drawer
Option to use "normal" 2D app drawer
Configurable support for resizeable widgets: only when adding them to the homescreen, you cannot edit them later.
Configurable Homescreen grid: From 4 to 6 rows, and 4 to 6 columns
Configurable number of homescreens: from 1 to 9 with configurable default homescreen
Choice between 3 and 5 icon Dock
Configurable Dock icons size
Configurable "swipe down" and "swipe down" independently to any of the following:
Includes anim speed: precise control over core Android windows/transition animation speed
Configurable Support for launcher auto-rotation
Configurable Infinite looping of homescreens
Configurable support for scrollable widgets
Configurable bounce effect on homescreen transitions
Configurable wallpaper scrolling
Configurable transition speed of homescreens
LauncherPro
Description and features
Simple. Powerful. Fast. Customizable.
If you can't open it, download "ClearDefaultHome" or "Home Switcher"
- Super-smooth scrolling
- Animated screen previews (like Exposé or HTC Sense)
- Up to 7 home screens
- App drawer (2D and 3D!) with a fly-in effect and smooth scrolling
- Scrollable shortcut dock
More to come.
Links
Apex Launcher: Link to download
Nova Launcher: Link to download
SSLauncher: Link to download
Zeam Launcher: Link to download
TSF Shell Launcher: Link to download
Go Launcher EX: Link to download
Launcher 7 Windows phone 7 Style Launcher: Link to download Pro Version - Link to download free version
CC3D Launcher: Link to download
MIUI Home Launcher: Link to download
SPB Shell 3DLauncher: Link to download
MXHome Launcher: Link to download
ADW Launcher: Link to download
Lightning Launcher: Link to download
EZ Launcher: Link to download
DXHome Launcher: Link to download
Espier Launcher: Link to download
Balancer Launcher: Link to download
Nemus Launcher: Link to download
FTL Pro Launcher: Link to download
LauncherPro: Link to download
Chameleon Launcher: Link to download
Special Link for a more detailed description for launchers here. There you can read a more detailed description of a variety of Launchers from GB to ICS and what are the pros and the cons.
Many thanks to Ohamn for the link and for taking the time to writing that article.
Lockscreen collection with download links
Widgetlocker
Description and features
WidgetLocker is a lock screen replacement that puts you in control of the look, feel and layout of your lock screen.
Drag and Drop placement of Sliders, Android Widgets and App Shortcuts
Sliders look selectable from built-in styles (Ice Cream Sandwich, Gingerbread, Sense and Sense 3, Motorola, iPhone, and Rotary) or from user-themes.
Slider Actions can be customized, for example Slide-to-launch-Camera or Slide-to-call-your-Girlfriend.
Resizable widgets and custom grid size
Notification badges on apps/sliders via TeslaUnread (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.notifier )
Customize which widgets/buttons are allowed or blocked at the lock screen
Download Link: Here
MagicLocker
Description and features
Magic Locker is most colorful and simple lock screen app for Android! Various of lock screen Themes to match your style and make your mobile outstanding!
Features:
Shortcut Customization
More Theme Customization(like position,alpha,skin,show/hide somethings)
Activate phone, SMS ,Camera and other shortcuts directly from lock screen;
Screen Lock Security
Support customise wallpaper and live wallpaper.
Support customise date format
Support system security pattern (settings->Location and security->Set up screen lock. For HTC: Settings-> Security->Set up screen lock)
Block Home Key
Support to enable/disable volume rocker wake up screen
Support to send Email, mak phone call, open URL ect. directly on lockscreen.
Support to pull down notification bar
The Magic Locker Main App just includes one theme - 'Lost Robot', as the default theme,
Download Link: Here
LockBot Free
Description and features
LockBot is a lock screen editor.Customize by yourself or download from Theme Gallery.
★Theme★
- iPhone
- Hero
- Eclair
- Froyo (Pro Only)
- X10 (Pro Only)
- Galaxy (Pro Only)
- Honeycomb (Pro Only)
- Ice Cream Sandwich (Pro Only)
★Bacground★
Set lock screen background from
- Flickr
- Picasa
- Wretch
- Pics on your SDCard
★Feature★
-Change unlock sound
-Customize clock style(Digital, Analog)
-Schedule theme play list
-Set unlock security(Password, Graphic Pattern)
-Shake unlock
-LockNow widget
Download Link: Here
MiLocker
Description and features
MiLocker, the most powerful unlock screen App.
Want side-slip? Vertical slip? Multiple points? Animation unlocking? Do whatever you want to change your lockscreen style.
Based on MIUI technology, also has the world’s leading lockscreen theme library as well as talented designer users.Whether you are a designer or a mobile player, nothing but your imagination limits you.
Download Link: Here
GoLocker
Description and features
Features:
1. Cool Locker Screen that makes your phone outstanding;
2. Good compatibility with GO Launcher EX and it is stable;
3. Easy to use;
4. Able to activate phone, SMS and Camera directly or you can change the slider shortcuts yourself;
5. Various of Locker Themes to match your style;
6. Support customise wallpaper;
7. Security locker;
8. Emergency unlock enabled;
Tips:
1. Make sure GO Launcher EX V2.58 or above has been installed;
2. Click “MENU—-Preferences—-Theme Settings—-GO Locker” to use it after installed;
3. Click “My locker” to preview and Download more Locker themes;
Download Link: Here
No Lock
Description and features
Tired of the lock screen?
Use your phone as quickly as possible, with No Lock!
Tired of the lock screen?
If you want to use your phone as quickly as possible, this app is for you.
It simply disables the lock screen. Press the unlock/menu button just once and the screen turns on immediately.
Download Link: Here
More Launchers
Chameleon Launcher
Description and features
Chameleon is a revolutionary tablet-specific launcher that lets you create multiple home screens, each with your own layout of widgets and apps. The Chameleon system includes an innovative context based home screen system giving you the most relevant information that you want, when you want it.
The Next Generation of Widgets.
Android widgets are not all created equally - and that's the problem - so we decided to raise the bar. The result is widgets that look beautiful together and are as easy to layout as drawing on a screen. Take a look at some of our other widgets or build your own with our custom API.
-Calendar (Coming Soon!)
-Clock
-Facebook
-Google+(Coming Soon!)
-Instagram
-Media Player (Coming soon!)
-RSS News Reader
-Switches
-Twitter
-YouTube
Home Screens that Change With You
Your information needs may change throughout your day, so Chameleon includes an innovative context system. You can create context rules based on GPS locations, WiFi networks and time ranges, allowing you to define which Home Screen is the most relevant for any situation.
App Tray & Launcher
Chameleon doesn't just let you customize your Home Screens with the widgets you want. It also lets you customize your own mini App Tray. Giving you the apps you want up front, without having to swim through a large grid of apps.
Super Easy To Customize
Quickly set up Home Screens, Widgets, App Trays, and Wallpapers all with a few gestures.
EDIT: If you are using Paranoid Android rom you can purchase this launcher and using it on your phone. Any other roms it will not work. You can try AOKP rom which gives you the tablet mode feature but have not tried to see if it works
LauncherPro added to OP and post 3 to download and description from Market.
Enjoy
LauncherPro added to OP and post 3 to download and description from Market.
Enjoy
Nice Thread Buddy. Keep Updating
husen4u said:
Nice Thread Buddy. Keep Updating
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will do my friend. thank you.
Thanks for putting this useful thread together...
More launchers and lockscreens coming soon. Got few days off next week will be updating this thread guys with more launchers and lockscreens...with regarding lockscreens will give the links to the themes for GoLocker and the same with Widgetlocker.
Plus i still can not believe how many launchers are out there
New Lockscreen (with a twist) added to post 3. Video included to give you guys better explanation of what i am talking about.
Hope you guys like the twist in that lockscreen and hit the thanks as well if you want.
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Great thread and I hope it keeps getting updated as such. Good work
P.S. You should add Holo Launcher and Regina Launcher on here.
I was using Regina for quite a while before and it's a solid launcher but not as much customization as I'd like. And I'm currently using Holo but have only just started using it, so I haven't covered all aspects of it yet, but it does look and feel great
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Great thread and I hope it keeps getting updated as such. Good work
P.S. You should add Holo Launcher and Regina Launcher on here.
I was using Regina for quite a while before and it's a solid launcher but not as much customization as I'd like. And I'm currently using Holo but have only just started using it, so I haven't covered all aspects of it yet, but it does look and feel great
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Will add them later on in the day
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What about WP7 Lock lite? it's simple but has an awesome bounce effect just like in windows phone 7.
Also does anyone know how go locker goes on your battery?
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What about WP7 Lock lite? it's simple but has an awesome bounce effect just like in windows phone 7.
Also does anyone know how go locker goes on your battery?
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Go locker should not drain any battery. And will add wp7 later
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OK enjoy your thread
for moderator remove my post please cus can't remove
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if just launcher u can check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482929
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Not being funny mate can you remove your link. Cause I am doing for a bit of lockscreens and launchers. And if mods wanted to remove it they would of done. I just hate when people do this and advertise threads of others in a different thread.
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should add launcher 360 and cyanxlock
edit: nope can't find launcher 360 :/
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should add launcher 360 and cyanxlock
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Launcher 360 is there mate
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Nice work, mate
Now I can find download link of many launchers easily
Subscribed! :good:
Errr.. why don't you put the launcher themes too?