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i just installed jesus freak 1.5. i also purchased a 16gb micro sdhc card. I would like to know how to get apps to sd running correctly. I have followed another method and messed up the sd card. so i purchased a brand new one and before i even take it out of the package, i would like to talk to someone that has had sucesssful experience.
Thanx in Advance
A2SD in a Nutshell
the essence of apps2sd is:
1) creating a vfat/fat32 partition for storing user data
2) creating a second partition, ext2 to hold your apps and caches
3) creating directories within the ext2 partition on the SD to house your caches and apps
4) copying your apps and caches to the SD within the appropriate directories on the ext2 partition
5) rebooting within recovery console and deleting the original app and cache directories, AND
6) symbolically linking the ext2 apps/cache folders on the SD to the appropriate system partition folder names
7) rebooting to android and testing apps to determine which need to be reinstalled or reconfigured
your ext2 partition need not be very large relative to the volume of the SD; half a gig is normally adequate
pre-requisites:
you will need regular access to an OS that supports the ext2 filesystem, like linux. this is important because if your ext2 partition ever becomes damaged, the linux system has the tools to fix the ext2 filesystem errors.
you will need to know the commands for creating partitions on your SD
you should know how to use ADB to connect to your G1's shell, though this is optional
you need to know how to (re)boot to the recovery console and use its shell
you need to be familiar with the commands required to copy directories, create and delete directories, and create symbolic links
There are other Threads that have other programs and tutorials, but I used this one the other day on a JF 1.5 and it worked well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512743
Only issue I had was I had to move JF Updater back to Phone from SD , but that could have been a glitch when the phone checked for an update. The two apps used AppstoSD2 and a2sd pretty much do everything for you , very minimal command line required on your part.
Only thing to make it better would be an interface to either move the apps back to phone or integrate it so it would ask you when you install an app where to put it. But I am very happy with it. 16GB might be over kill , I have a 8 GB but they say not to go over 1.5 GB with the Ext2 partition, so while you will have 6.5 ( relative ) GB of space for Movies,Images, MP3's, Uninstalled apps, you are really limited to the 1.5GB for apps , well plus internal phone memory I guess. But for phone apps that's probably way more than enough.
question: how do you partition a 16gb sdcard? all the numbers and all that. ive done an 8 gb sd card and that was easy cause i was working with mb's. now with gb im lost. i got to parted and i typed up print and got 16.1gb if you could help me with the numbers for fat32,ext2/3,linux-swap. i would greatly appreciate it...
Personally, I would reccoment switching to a Cyanogen ROM. It's based off the same source as JF, but one of the features it has is automatic Apps2SD. This means you but have to push files here and there, whuch believe me can be a pain. It does still require an ext partition which you would have to format your self, but after that it will work without and modifications.
Do no more then 512 MB for your ext2(3,4) partition
Follow this guide for the card partitioning. Flash CM's rom and it will do apps2sd for you automatically.
Your other card is most likely not all lost and could be salvaged still, I would look into it if I was you, 16gb cards are not cheap.
And for the last time: it is Jeusus FREKE not Jesus Freak, Have some respect for the one who layed the foundation for us, at least enough to spell his name correctly.
AdrianK said:
Personally, I would reccoment switching to a Cyanogen ROM. It's based off the same source as JF, but one of the features it has is automatic Apps2SD. This means you but have to push files here and there, whuch believe me can be a pain. It does still require an ext partition which you would have to format your self, but after that it will work without and modifications.
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I second that, and also jf won't be doing ROM any more :[
http://jf.andblogs.net/
Well in the last days I've been having problems uploading things from my sdcard from apps, I thought it was an a2sd issue so I removed my ext3 partition from my sdcard by entering parted and use rm 2, so when I rebooted it showed my previous home screen with the same apps and it said that app wasn't installed on phone so I check my internal storage and it said 11 mb of storage left and that didn't make any sense so then I wiped and formatted my sdcard and rebooted and it said 20 mb left so I enter my downloads from market and see that it says my apps are installed but they don't show on my app tray so I'm guessing that apps are not there but the phone is reading it wrong. So I wiped installed CM 3.9.7 again and now I can't install apps from market or anywhere else
shouldn't this be in the Q&A?
I saw your signature and your running ROM: Cyanogen's MOD (3.9.7)...
Cyanogen warned you NOT TO INSTALL Apps2sd!
Format your sdcard ext partion and then wipe and install Cyanogen's MOD...
Everything will go back to normal
SportsFan26 said:
I saw your signature and your running ROM: Cyanogen's MOD (3.9.7)...
Cyanogen warned you NOT TO INSTALL Apps2sd!
Format your sdcard ext partion and then wipe and install Cyanogen's MOD...
Everything will go back to normal
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No I didn't use any scripts to activata apps2sd because its automatic, what I'm trying to do is reverse apps2sd so I can install apps on my phone instead of my sdcard I already removed my ext 3 partition
do you have a card reader?
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do you have a card reader?
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Yes I do have a card reader
If you are running Cyanogen's mod, then I don't believe you'll be able to have your apps on your phone unless you do NOT have an ext 2/3 partition. If your SD card is only Fat32, then the mod won't have any place to move the apps and will leave it on your phone.
Atleast that's how I understood it, if someone who actually knows what they are talking about contradicts me, go with them.
Gilliland12 said:
If you are running Cyanogen's mod, then I don't believe you'll be able to have your apps on your phone unless you do NOT have an ext 2/3 partition. If your SD card is only Fat32, then the mod won't have any place to move the apps and will leave it on your phone.
Atleast that's how I understood it, if someone who actually knows what they are talking about contradicts me, go with them.
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Yeah that's how it is, I had ext3 partition before but I removed it because I was having malfunctions with a lot of different apps so I thought removing the partition would do it but no now I can't install apps.
I want to undo apps2sd I don't want it anymore, I want apps installed on my phone
I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
supremeteam256 said:
I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
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ok i'll try doing that, tell you if it works later on
I would also clean out dalvik-cache
rm -r /data/dalvik-cache
I think that's where part of your problem is, don't quote me on that though
In my personal opinion, it's good to rebuild your dalvik-cache everynow and then just to make sure you don't have any junk in there. I suspect that you may have number of things in there since you did not uninstall apps but rather nuked the partition. Who knows... do it, it may help
Good luck
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I would be to reformat your card to just fat32 (I would just do it in windows or ubuntu, I wouldn't run any scripts to do it). Then load up cyanogens rom on your card, wipe, and update. You will have a fresh install and apps should go to your phone and not SD.
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you are definitely the man haha it worked, i can install apps but have 55mbs of free space is that ok?
Okay so I've been running Cyanogen's Mod 4.0.4 and his 1.4 recovery image. I was running out of system memory and wanted to start using Apps2SD, I was reading some info on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4107149 and installed the "Apps2SD" app and made a partition. Rebooted and got a notification that the SD Card was blank or improperly formatted. I then proceded to attempt to follow the instructions for formatting with ADB, my system was having "error finding device" and after some troubleshooting I decided for forget about Apps2SD. Well now all my apps are removed from system memory and on my SD card that is messed up or something... all my icons are blank (except gmail, etc.).
Before messing around at all I did a Nandroid backup and backed up the entire contents of my SD card to my computer.
Well here I am, I grabbed another one of my MicroSD cards and loaded all the files on it (including the Nandroid backup) and when I try to "restore latest backup" I get this message:
D:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0)
(I/O error)
Can't mount sdcard, aborting.
I tried using the "mount sdcard" command in the console and I get a similar error.
Anyone have any tips? It's not really the end of the world, I could reinstall all my apps, but I don't like this error message, it has kind of got me worried. Thanks anyone!
YOU DONT NEEd APPS2SD ON A CYANOGEN ROM JUST AN EXT2/3. didnt you read his disclaimer?
your going to have to reformat your sd card and re partition it. dont run apps2sd cy's roms already do that
a way to see if you have partitions is to get to the parted stuff in console and type "print" it shows you all of the partitions on you sd card. ps i would follow this tutorial on how to partition you card
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/boa...roidDev&message.id=7674&query.id=114903#M7674
scroll down to the partition part
Thanks, the text commands in the console worked perfectly.
yeah no problem they were meant for the the console/adb. terminal...no lol.
so everythings working fine now? just checking up on you.
Yeah, last night for a while the phone wouldn't get past the G1 screen... then after a few hours I tried again and was able to get into a freshly flashed rom. I followed the console command instructions on my funktified SD card and it worked perfectly. I now have it partitioned and apps are on it. I don't know the difference between ex2 and ex3, or what I have now... should I care? Sorry, I'm partly a newb.
haha dude to be honest i dont know either i just follow tutorials hahaha.
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Ext3 is superior to ext2... the main reason, from what I gathered, is that it supports wear-leveling.
If u followed the directions and ran the upgrade_fs script after partitioning, then u have ext3.
Wear leveling is built into the card, ext 3 has journeling which does not corrupt easily from a power loss( pulling battery)
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Wear leveling is built into the card, ext 3 has journeling which does not corrupt easily from a power loss( pulling battery)
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Ah, I remember hearing about the journaling as well...
I was under the impression the partition needed to support wear-leveling as well...
dunno exactly how to help you, but i can share with you a similar experience and how i fixed it. and it might just be the answer.
I use a Mac. i used my 8gb class 6 card and formated it for mac. after i used it i reformated it back into fat32, but while partitioning, it screwed up my partitions, there was extra space tooken on the sd card. eventually my sd card was screwed, there was a point where it did not mount aswell.
how did i fix? i reformated and made sure to erase the Zero's, theres an option that says that. dunno what it means. and it erased all the backup info and everything on the card into fat32, and it was fine to mount and partition all over again.
I think wear leveling has to do with the card itself. The way I explain file systems like ext and fat is that the sdcard/hard drive is like a bookcase and the different filesystems are the way that the shelves are organize in the bookcase
Firstly, BlaY0 has a great tutorial on how to do this properly, I suggest you do that to learn something.
Secondly, I cannot confirm that this is 100% safe. BlaY0's method should be 99% safe, I don't know about this as it is all automatic. BlaY0's method is tried and tested, this is not. I only used this method as I had a new SD card and I was in a hurry (exams coming up ) and I didn't have time to remind myself of BlaY0's method, and CWM only allows you to create up to 512mb partition. Also, I had a new computer, and I don't have time to set up ADB all over again.
Anyway, this is a method for people who don't want to use ADB to partition their SD card for A2EXT or DATA2EXT (a.k.a. apps2sd, etc etc), and are using Windows. If you're running linux, you could use something like gParted to partition it, not sure about OS X though. This method will allow a Windows user to create an EXT partition on their SD card alongside the FAT partition.
1) Download and install Minitool Partition Wizard, from here.
2) Open the program and delete all partitions from the SD card (which you will have inserted into the computer using an adapter or something). DO NOT DELETE THE PARTITIONS FROM THE HARD DISK! MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DELETING. Oh, and make sure the SD card is backed up
3) Create a FAT32 primary partition. You decide how big you want it, but I'd advise you leave 1024mb (1gb) for the EXT partition.
4) Create an EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 (you decide) primary partition. Use up the rest of the space on the SD card.
5) Click assign/OK/whatever and wait for it to complete
6) You now have your partitioned SD card ready for an A2SD ROM!
7) You need to assign a drive letter to the FAT32 partition. Not sure about the EXT partition. At first I forgot to do this and my card didn't show up in Windows, though Partition Magic can still see it.
Like I said, do yourself a favour and use BlaY0's method here, but if you're lazy or you don't have time or ADB doesn't work anymore, use this.
Nice one m8. You mentioned that CWM doesn't offer adding partitions bigger than 512 MB. Well, you're right but that's why I made a customized version of fake-flash that can do bigger... to 1 GB. It can even add second ext partition for some exotic types of data2ext. On top of that I added auto block alignment which is described in my guide (the manual one) so no more calculations and manual labour
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BlaY0 said:
Nice one m8. You mentioned that CWM doesn't offer adding partitions bigger than 512 MB. Well, you're right but that's why I made a customized version of fake-flash that can do bigger... to 1 GB. It can even add second ext partition for some exotic types of data2ext. On top of that I added auto block alignment which is described in my guide (the manual one) so no more calculations and manual labour
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Ah, I didn't know about your customized CWM, I think I'll just use that next time
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Nice one m8. You mentioned that CWM doesn't offer adding partitions bigger than 512 MB...
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I remember some version had the ext menu up to 4GB
BlaY0 said:
On top of that I added auto block alignment which is described in my guide (the manual one) so no more calculations and manual labour
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Didn't know that, good to know, for those of us still using data2ext, this is important...
Wish this was up earlier, spent an hour repartitioning my card using parted.Couldn't upgrade to EXT3 and ended up using CWM 3.0.2.8 to do it instead lol
What CWM is using under the hood for partitioning is actually parted.
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Tried it but it didnt work not sure what the problem is...
formatted my SD to FAT 32 and reserved 1G for EXT3 both as primary partition in the Mini Partition Tool
Plugged it in my phone,
Ran ADB shell
# a2sd --enabled, rebooted
on reboot nothing seemed to have changed... went back to ADB shell
tried a2sd --free it says A2Sd is not active ...
a2sd -- enabled again and it says it is enabled but not active
so im guessing it cant read or recognize the EXT3?!
Any clues... i didnt want to move my Dalvik to SD ... should I try EXT4 or even EXT2?
QkSi1ver said:
Tried it but it didnt work not sure what the problem is...
formatted my SD to FAT 32 and reserved 1G for EXT3 both as primary partition in the Mini Partition Tool
Plugged it in my phone,
Ran ADB shell
# a2sd --enabled, rebooted
on reboot nothing seemed to have changed... went back to ADB shell
tried a2sd --free it says A2Sd is not active ...
a2sd -- enabled again and it says it is enabled but not active
so im guessing it cant read or recognize the EXT3?!
Any clues... i didnt want to move my Dalvik to SD ... should I try EXT4 or even EXT2?
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Take me through what you did, step by step. You say you reserved 1G for EXT3, but did you actually format it as another partition?
QkSi1ver said:
Any clues... i didnt want to move my Dalvik to SD ... should I try EXT4 or even EXT2?
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It has been mentioned here like a gazilion times, boot up your device with logcat and see the first few lines...there is your answer!
Google how to wait for the device with logcat
1) Downloaded and installed Minitool Partition Wizard from your link. I got the free home edition
2) backed up my SD card and Open the program and delete my SD card partition ( which is in a card reader)
3) Created a FAT32 primary partition of 69xx MB and left the rest 1024 MB for the other unallocated space
4) Right click on the Unallocated Space to create an EXT3 as primary partition with the default cluster size.
5) At this point, it showed 2 partition on my SD, one with the drive letter for windows FAT32, and the 2nd one Ext 3 with 1GB and Primary. Clicked OK and Apply and wait for it to complete.
6) once complete , put it in phone, plugged usb and ran adb shell
7) ran a2sd --enable, it said reboot phone.. i made a mistake to reboot by adb the first time but then did the whole process again a 2nd time using reboot from the phone....
Tried logcat using this command "adb -d logcat>mylogfile.txt"
couldnt find the file anywhere ... if i dont redirect to the txt , it goes too fast to read and there's soo much debug messages what do i need to look for?
I thought it would save me time to get it done through windows... but its taking me as much time it w0uld probably get me with the manual way...
i'll give it a try tomorrow...
8) rebooted fine, and i was still low on space.. so went back in adb sheel to check a2sd --free but this is where it says not active..
QkSi1ver said:
1) Downloaded and installed Minitool Partition Wizard from your link. I got the free home edition
2) backed up my SD card and Open the program and delete my SD card partition ( which is in a card reader)
3) Created a FAT32 primary partition of 69xx MB and left the rest 1024 MB for the other unallocated space
4) Right click on the Unallocated Space to create an EXT3 as primary partition with the default cluster size.
5) At this point, it showed 2 partition on my SD, one with the drive letter for windows FAT32, and the 2nd one Ext 3 with 1GB and Primary. Clicked OK and Apply and wait for it to complete.
6) once complete , put it in phone, plugged usb and ran adb shell
7) ran a2sd --enable, it said reboot phone.. i made a mistake to reboot by adb the first time but then did the whole process again a 2nd time using reboot from the phone....
Tried logcat using this command "adb -d logcat>mylogfile.txt"
couldnt find the file anywhere ... if i dont redirect to the txt , it goes too fast to read and there's soo much debug messages what do i need to look for?
I thought it would save me time to get it done through windows... but its taking me as much time it w0uld probably get me with the manual way...
i'll give it a try tomorrow...
8) rebooted fine, and i was still low on space.. so went back in adb sheel to check a2sd --free but this is where it says not active..
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Tbh I'm really not sure. One thing I forgot to mention in the guide is that you should assign a drive letter to the FAT32 partition or it won't show up in Windows. I didn't assign one to my EXT4 partition though, and DATA2SD is working great for me. Try deleting all partitions from the SD card and start again. It'll only take 10 minutes, and if it still doesn't work just use the manual way.
Sorry.
alexhtclegend said:
Tbh I'm really not sure. One thing I forgot to mention in the guide is that you should assign a drive letter to the FAT32 partition or it won't show up in Windows. I didn't assign one to my EXT4 partition though, and DATA2SD is working great for me. Try deleting all partitions from the SD card and start again. It'll only take 10 minutes, and if it still doesn't work just use the manual way.
Sorry.
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Yeah i assigned a drive letter to FAT32...
Also the FAT32 , was my first block allocated partition, the 2nd partition was EXT3... i will redo the whole process and recreate EXT4 instead.
"DATA2SD is working great for me" ... you mean "A2SD working great for me" ... right? unless i'm missing something else that i needed to run..
ps: I recalled, after it was not working, i took out the sd and put it back in the reader to open MiniTool, it showed EXT2 instead of EXT3 ( which i was sure i chose )... and what's weird is it was reporting used space like 41MB... so obvisouly, the ROM wrote something on it...
Formatting it again to EXT3, didnt delete the 41 Used space, but it did convert it back to EXT3 ...probably nothing but mentioning as well
QkSi1ver said:
Yeah i assigned a drive letter to FAT32...
Also the FAT32 , was my first block allocated partition, the 2nd partition was EXT3... i will redo the whole process and recreate EXT4 instead.
"DATA2SD is working great for me" ... you mean "A2SD working great for me" ... right? unless i'm missing something else that i needed to run..
ps: I recalled, after it was not working, i took out the sd and put it back in the reader to open MiniTool, it showed EXT2 instead of EXT3 ( which i was sure i chose )... and what's weird is it was reporting used space like 41MB... so obvisouly, the ROM wrote something on it...
Formatting it again to EXT3, didnt delete the 41 Used space, but it did convert it back to EXT3 ...probably nothing but mentioning as well
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I suggest you start over, something seems to have gone wrong.
A2SD is where the apps are stored on the EXT partition.
DC2SD is where the dalvik cache is also stored on the EXT partition.
DATA2SD is where the entire /data partition on the phone is stored on the EXT partition of the memory card.
Partitioning the SD card with a FAT32 partition and EXT partition is done first, then you decide which one is for you. DATA2SD does have one or two issues, such as the risk of corruption - you'd then have to completely reinstall the ROM. A2SD and DC2SD are fine but I still found myself running out of internal memory.
i gave up and used ROM Manager to create my partition ...i couldnt set it to 1G because 512MB is maximum but it was painless to create.
it asked me to create a swap partition... i've read somewhere that swap partition is useless or barely used in newer android os? do you guys have any swap partition if so how big are they?
Also, did you move Dalvik cache to sd? isnt it slower on SD? i mean shouldnt dalvik cache be on RAM whihc i assume is faster than any external sd?
thanks for your insight
QkSi1ver said:
i gave up and used ROM Manager to create my partition ...i couldnt set it to 1G because 512MB is maximum but it was painless to create.
it asked me to create a swap partition... i've read somewhere that swap partition is useless or barely used in newer android os? do you guys have any swap partition if so how big are they?
Also, did you move Dalvik cache to sd? isnt it slower on SD? i mean shouldnt dalvik cache be on RAM whihc i assume is faster than any external sd?
thanks for your insight
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I used the full DATA2SD, which includes Dalvik2SD.
ok so sorry for a double post but im having an issue partitioning.
32 gb card san disk brand new
primary Fat32 10gb
primary Ext2 rest of space
once mini tool is done it sats successful but shows the sd card as Bad disk?!?
is there somthing im doin wrong? is used this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
all help deeply appriciated
Acer Iconia Tab A110 rooted, Cwm, 4.1.2
Can you actually have a 22gb ext partition? This might be something to look into to see if you can do it.
Edit: this got me interested so I searched myself, yes you can but apparently it depends on the chosen block size and hardware limitations, so u may have an issue with either.
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alexhtclegend said:
Firstly, BlaY0 has a great tutorial on how to do this properly, I suggest you do that to learn something.
Secondly, I cannot confirm that this is 100% safe. BlaY0's method should be 99% safe, I don't know about this as it is all automatic. BlaY0's method is tried and tested, this is not. I only used this method as I had a new SD card and I was in a hurry (exams coming up ) and I didn't have time to remind myself of BlaY0's method, and CWM only allows you to create up to 512mb partition. Also, I had a new computer, and I don't have time to set up ADB all over again.
Anyway, this is a method for people who don't want to use ADB to partition their SD card for A2EXT or DATA2EXT (a.k.a. apps2sd, etc etc), and are using Windows. If you're running linux, you could use something like gParted to partition it, not sure about OS X though. This method will allow a Windows user to create an EXT partition on their SD card alongside the FAT partition.
1) Download and install Minitool Partition Wizard, from here.
2) Open the program and delete all partitions from the SD card (which you will have inserted into the computer using an adapter or something). DO NOT DELETE THE PARTITIONS FROM THE HARD DISK! MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DELETING. Oh, and make sure the SD card is backed up
3) Create a FAT32 primary partition. You decide how big you want it, but I'd advise you leave 1024mb (1gb) for the EXT partition.
4) Create an EXT2/EXT3/EXT4 (you decide) primary partition. Use up the rest of the space on the SD card.
5) Click assign/OK/whatever and wait for it to complete
6) You now have your partitioned SD card ready for an A2SD ROM!
7) You need to assign a drive letter to the FAT32 partition. Not sure about the EXT partition. At first I forgot to do this and my card didn't show up in Windows, though Partition Magic can still see it.
Like I said, do yourself a favour and use BlaY0's method here, but if you're lazy or you don't have time or ADB doesn't work anymore, use this.
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Hahah! Thanks for you detail guide. It is so helpful for me!
Hello,
I am running Hypersense v2.6 and I have followed all of the directions on the thread to install it. The one thing that seems strange is that Apps2SD doesn't seem to be working correctly. When I look at the free space in the manage apps menu, it says 25mb, although I created a 1GB ext4 partition for apps on my SD card. Should I be manually checking the boxes on the SD card tab in the same menu (doesn't seem to make sense because it shows an SD card size that reflects the non ext4 partition)? I realize that this is a noobish question, but I am just a little confused.
Thanks!
The OS doesn't know anything about A2SD. You won't see this info. You'll see it only in Titanium backup, A2SD GUI, and such apps.
Did you move also the dalvik-cache to sd-ext?
Use "a2sd cachesd" in terminal.