Hi Guys,
Got WMWiFiRouter and MochaFTP work together (0ver wireless, offcouse) so that now MochaFTP allows me to browse my device and WMWiFiRouter allows me to browse the net. Please note that I am not using MochaFTP to transfer files via internet, that would've eat up my data allowance unnecessarily, although it can be done. In this mode, I browse net and send / receive downloaded media or programs to my Xperia. In sort, I planned and almost there in using X1 as Network Share (NAS), got 16GB card to enhance the capacity. Don't need to connect to different laptops but X1 now acts sort of my cental download hub and whatever laptop I use (I got 3 in total), I always access a single and up to date download for all of them. Sounds good.
What I am trying to achive but couldn't is,
(1) Stream media from X1 over wirelss, so I can put enough audio & video on X1 and listen it over wireless to my laptops, anytime and anywhere (over local wireless). This is just opposite of things like Orb and etcetra, as there are too many solutions which allows you to access media on your PC. This is about accessing (and streaming only, as I can always download from X1 via MochaFTT but wouldn't want to do that. It is same as having files on your PC) media on X1 via wireless. No I am not asking for A2DP over Bluetooth because than, I need to play it on X1 atleast and then use A2DP as wirless bluwtooth headset, but yet a sort of headset. So I want pure streaming of media files from my X1 which I will access on any of my wireless networked PC via http, rtsp or whatever protocol.
(2) Once above it achieved, I would want to stream FM Radio on my X1 over the same above wireless network. X1 can be plugged in and FM will be streamed all over wirelss so I can listen it on any PC on local network. Dont want record it and then stream it via net. In all above scenarios, net is not going to be used at all, as it will need data connection and I dont want to pay bothways. I want to listed to free FM chanells via wireless only.
(3) And ofcourse, if we can run a pure real infrastructure SoftAP server on X1 (or WM 6.1) it will be great as it will allow me to route my HAVA player via X1 over local WLAN and so I will get rid of my mains consuming 3G Router. Save energy as you can by unpluging one more energy eating thing.
(4) Any at last, something like Virtual WiFi for Wm 6.1 platform, allowing X1 to connect to at least two wireless networks simultaneously without any apparent lag while WM 6.1 hogs two or more wirless networks.
I spent a lot of time searching a piece of native WM 6.1 streaming server (there are a lot of FTP ones, but these are copy & paste things in their root concept) but couldn't find any.
Any luck?
Cheers
mmbika said:
(1) Stream media from X1 over wirelss, so I can put enough audio & video on X1 and listen it over wireless to my laptops, anytime and anywhere (over local wireless)
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I mainly mean to listen to music rather strteaming videso from X1
mmbika said:
(2) Once above it achieved, I would want to stream FM Radio on my X1 over the same above wireless network.
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Again, not anything over A2DP, as BTFM poorly tries to do that, but I need to keep volume for FM radio application up on my X1, else it I will not be able to listen it. If I mute device (X1) volume than BTFM steams but no volume whatever you set on receiver device. If you select wired headset (alothough we need to connect wired headset to receive FM, we can still listen it on device speaker) than BTFM can't stream FM radio over A2DP, instead it streams device microphone over A2DP, so a sort of A2DP Bluetooth Microphone.
And I forgot to mention one more wish,
How about enabling USB Host on X1, I know it can't almost be done or is possible, yet a wish! Or maximizing storage capacity on X1 to say 32GB or 64GB would be awsome. I woill wish to put 1TB Micro SHXC in it and it will rock as NAS.
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Has anyone had experience of these?
I was looking at a blaupunkt hamburg car stereo and whilst I can always use USB or 3.5mm aux jack to connect with my kaiser, I would like, if possible, the full bluetooth experience - with the stereo playing music off my kaiser and handling calls as well. I know it will handle the calls part, but what about the music part?
I guess the Kaiser supports BT "headphones", but I wondered if it was possible for a car head unit to pull track listings via BT from a phone, select which track to play etc.
I would really like to be able to have TomTom on the kaiser screen and select what music I want via the car stereo's controls.
Is this possible via BT? I know this unit does that via USB, but I can't seem to work out if track selection is possible via BT. I spoke to some salesmen, but all they quoted at me was "It has Audio Streaming" - I looked that up, but all it said was you could skip track etc - I want to be able to browse playlists on the head unit as well as play, pause etc.
Does BT degrade the quality too much? Would I be better off using the USB port?
depends on if the car stereo supports Stereo over Bluetooth. Go to the bluetooth on your pda, click and hold on the paired stereo and if it gives you the option - you're good otherwise you may need to find another solution.
It's not just stereo over bluetooth (A2DP) I want, it's the ability to browse playlists via the bluetooth device
I don't know of any BT unit that supports playlist browsing -- as I understand it, the AVRCP profile that supports skip, rewind, etc. doesn't support playlists. AFAIK, there's no BT profile for that.
I have a JVC (BT1)unit that can control the music player and stream the music from the Kaiser ,browsing the songs is mot possible
OK, so hard wired it is then.
I am thinking now that maybe BT isn't so wise anyway, I have an active holder, so wires are not a problem really and wires don't cut out randomly or get interference.
Mind you, I just realised that for it to work over USB, the device has to present itself as a mass storage device, which I don't think pocketpc phones do, do they? You need activesync...
Does anyone know if it is possible to run an app on a pocketpc that makes it present itself as a standard usb mass storage device and not an activesync device?
my motorola a2dp bluetooth stereo headphones worked with my unit just fine - they had play/pause/next/prev/volume buttons that worked too - decent sound quality also
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OK, so hard wired it is then.
Mind you, I just realised that for it to work over USB, the device has to present itself as a mass storage device, which I don't think pocketpc phones do, do they? You need activesync...
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You don't necessarily need activesync for this, but you might try Softick Card Export or WM5torage (when someone gets it working on the Kaiser).
I tried the demo of Softick Card Export II and it works, there also appears to be one called WM5Storage on Modaco, but it won't let me download it, I think I need a subscription or something. What is the license on WM5Storage? Can someone send me a copy?
[Edit - heh, was writing this as you posted. So WM5Storage doesn't work on the Kaiser yet?]
This should provide the best possible audio quality - an error corrected usb link to the stereo and also the best functionality - the stereo can browse the phone so you can scroll through lists of your music on the stereo head unit whilst tomtom displays on the kaiser screen
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the stereo can browse the phone so you can scroll through lists of your music on the stereo head unit whilst tomtom displays on the kaiser screen
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One problem I see with this is that AFAIK, Card Export, when in use, prevents all other access to the card from your pda, therefore your maps on the card would not be accessible to TomTom while you are playing music via USB.
Surur
order of contacts displayed
Does anybody know how I can change the order contacts are displayed on the screen of the car? After I have sync the Kaiser with the BT car device all cantacts were sorted first name / last name. I do want to change that?
Any tip?
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One problem I see with this is that AFAIK, Card Export, when in use, prevents all other access to the card from your pda, therefore your maps on the card would not be accessible to TomTom while you are playing music via USB.
Surur
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You seem to be right on the money mate I got the stereo today, fitted it and got memory access violations when using tomtom and pulling tracks via USB
This is highly annoying, is it not technically possible to overcome this?
You could use smaller regional maps and store them in main memory?
Surur
Yeah, I could I suppose, but annoying - I paid for Western Europe and would like the whole thing on there all the time. You never know - you may go to a stag do, get drunk and wake up in France somewhere!
Persuing other angles at the mo - not got a word back from softick yet as to whether it is technically possible to access SD card via USB and phone at same time, and I have another thread exploring the possibility of an activesync to Mass Storage Device dongle.
We shall see.
I've got a Sony bluetooth unit and (MEX BT2500 or something) and use my Trinity for handsfree, TomTom and streaming music over Bluetooth - Kaiser turns up tomorrow but should be the same.
I use Coreplayer for music, it works great. You choose the music from the phone, but then you can skip tracks from the head unit. Sound quality is similar to using the aux port on the front - never had problems with interference or cutting out.
yeah, at the moment I just use the 3.5mm AUX input on the stereo and use pocket music.
I use "Double Launcher" to remap the internet explorer button - 1 press for tomtom, double press for pocket music - that way I can quickly switch between the two whilst driving by touch alone.
It's pretty good, but I would rather not have to take the map from the screen to select music, especially if you have a passenger who wants to browse available music. Plus the car head unit display is in big glowing letters which are easier to read at a distance. Also, it cuts down on a cable as the USB would cater for charge and audio.
Unfortunately the head unit only does audio for calls not audio streaming anyway, but I wasn't buying it for this as I figured bluetooth audio involved a lossy compression and so degraded quality - not an issue for phone calls but not the best for music, especially when it is already been through MP3 compression.
I got an answer from softick today, and it seems the limitation is imposed by their software. I have argued the case against the limitation, and they seem to be swaying towards giving something a go. Fingers crossed for a solution here.
HELP
Sorry to bring this back from the dead . .
But I am in the middle of purchasing a stereo for my car and want to be able to do a few things . .
1) More than anything i want to be able to stream my Iguidance or TomTom turn by turn directions over my stereo through bluetooth.
2) I want to be able to take calls while still having my directions being played. ( Ie. while driving and being told where to go, if I get a call it will silence the directions and the call will take over. )
3) I want to be able to switch from BT to CD or radio. So if say TomTom tells me, drive for 10 miles, I can switch to radio for a while so i can listen to music and then switch back after some time to get back on track with my directions. What would be even better is if it treated the directions just like a call and allowed me to listen to the radio or cds, and when TomTom decided to talk, it would mute or turn down the radio/cd and play TomTom over it for the moment of " In 2 miles, exit on the right ".
If this is not possible then it isn't really worth it to spend the extra $100 or so on a good headunit with bluetooth. please give me some info or ideas.
(On a side note, if I were to use a BT headset, and had tomtom running, would the commands for turn by turn directions be fed through my BT headset? And would I be able to take calls while still doing this? ) If yes, I may just end up getting a good BT headset and just a nice CD player because of cost.
anyone have any ideas?
please, someone? help me help me
I found a problem with my kaiser phone last night. The problem is that if I listening to music with my bluetooth headset I am not able to connect to my WiFi at the same time. This problem is specific to A2DP because my headset can be connected to my phone and I can not browse the web with WiFi. Has anyone seen this problem before? Has there ever been a resolution for it?
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I found a problem with my kaiser phone last night. The problem is that if I listening to music with my bluetooth headset I am not able to connect to my WiFi at the same time. This problem is specific to A2DP because my headset can be connected to my phone and I can not browse the web with WiFi. Has anyone seen this problem before? Has there ever been a resolution for it?
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I've seen this too -- when using A2DP, the WiFi connection goes down & won't re-establish itself until I turn off A2DP. I haven't found a resolution yet -- not that I'm looking for one as I almost never use A2DP, and when I do, I'm in the car, where WiFi isn't too useful.
See my post here which may be a related problem. I assume you have the same new HTC ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396409
I have a similar issue. If I am streaming music, from my HP media server, over wifi and using my Plantronics 590A bluetooh headphones, after each song I am asked to log back onto the network and as each song comes to an end my device starts to search for a network connection. I don't have this issue when I use wired headphones. Clearly there is an issue when both bluetooth and wifi are used at the same time. I don't know if it's hardware or software but I'm not happy about it.
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HTC TyTN II (Kaiser/P4550)
Rom ver: 1.82.707.0 WWE
Rom date: 11/03/07
Radio ver: 1.27.15.32
WM 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1620 (18125.0.4.2)
It's normal. Without going too technical, WiFi and Bluetooth operate on the same frequencies. They will live together if they're not using too much bandwidth, but if the usage is heavy there will be problems.
A BT stereo headset represents a lot of data to send and thus bandwidth usage, which means the BT will use the spectrum heavily, stepping over the Wifi. Due to the many packet losses the Wifi connection cuts.
Other way around, if Wifi is under heavy load, Bluetooth might drop.
Nothing we can do, that's what happens when you pack 2 radios operating in the same frequency band so close to each other, or even maybe sharing the same antenna which might be the case in today's phones.
It is absolutely NOT normal. The reason I know this is that VoIP over WiFi has been running almost perfectly on my TyTN II for a year, until I installed the latest ROM by HTC which broke it.
I used to get no crackle on Bluetooth calls with WiFi turned on. Now I do.
I used to get great quality VoIP. Now it is beyond unusable.
Simply, their new ROM broke it. BT and WiFi used to live in harmony, until their buggy ROM came out the other day. I think there are many users who know this, and who expect a hotfix soon.
You're talking about calls, I assume using the BT headset profile, while the other people in the thread are using A2DP wireless stereo. They're very different in terms of bandwidth.
On mine the headset with WiFi is also fine, but not A2DP. You're apparently not having the same issue than what is mentione in this thread. Yours might be due to the ROM, but the A2DP thing is more likely to be related to what I explained. I could myself experience it with several ROMS (all WM6, never tried a 6.1).
kilrah said:
It's normal. Without going too technical, WiFi and Bluetooth operate on the same frequencies. They will live together if they're not using too much bandwidth, but if the usage is heavy there will be problems.
A BT stereo headset represents a lot of data to send and thus bandwidth usage, which means the BT will use the spectrum heavily, stepping over the Wifi. Due to the many packet losses the Wifi connection cuts.
Other way around, if Wifi is under heavy load, Bluetooth might drop.
Nothing we can do, that's what happens when you pack 2 radios operating in the same frequency band so close to each other, or even maybe sharing the same antenna which might be the case in today's phones.
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My old TyTn II worked fine with BT and WiFi on at same time - never a problem. I always had WiFi on at home for emails etc... and always have my BT headset (Plantronics 8XX mono) working as I hate holding phone to my ear and get a lot of calls.
I recently bought another TyTn II and then unlocked it using advice form this forum (many thanks to all BTW!) and installed latest HTC rom and WM6.1 etc... Now I love many aspect of the new ROM but I can't use BT and WiFi at same time.
So from my experience it MUST be the new HTC ROM software issue.
Okay, chalk me up as another victim of this Wireless + A2DP = Crap Reception. I've tried three other Radios and the effect is the same.
I was using a rom I got in about April, and I could stream music from the internet over wireless listening to it on my Pantronics 590A's over bluetooth no issues (other than battery lol). Now with a rom I got this month, I can listen to music over bluetooth no problem, surf using wireless no issue but as soon as you mix them both it's all bad. Also, I need to re-pair my headphones whenever I want A2DP, where previously I could just turn on the headphones and have them connect. Also, no headset icon in the taskbar.
It's not a CPU issue as there's no excess usage when you both have them enabled. Personally I'm going to point the finger at the bluetooth stack here.
As far as I remembered when I first purchased the ATT Tilt with my Plantronic Voyager 855 I WAS able to stream via Wifi (Winamp Remote) and use my bluetooth without a problem. It's when I started to put cooked roms in the Tilt that it stopped working correctly...
Besides, I use a Macbook Pro via Wifi only and I listen to my Itune via my Plantronic Voyager 855 everyday. If it's true about WiFi overloading Bluetooth on the frequency. Why does it work fine on the MBP?
And Finally.... to make my point...
I also have an AT&T Fuze. Works fine there. Matter affact. I'm currently connected via bluetooth to my Fuze with my Voyager 855... turned off 3G/HSPDA on the Fuze. WiFi on the Fuze using Winamp Remote to connect to my PC streaming from there. Explain that....
Has anyone fixed this problem?
I'm experiencing the same problem on my kaiser aka xda stellar. When Wifi is turned on bluetooth A2DP stereo connection is dropped.
Hi I'd like to use my Kaiser as a wireless microphone (baby monitor function) and receive sound on my PC.
I've been thinking about using Bluetooth as well as WiFi connection.
Any Help?
Thanks
it would reqire a special made program to run on both the pda and the computer
the pda would have to be on all the time recording every sound and compress it to mp3 or something smaller then wav
and transmit it over the network to a program on the pc which would play store or alert you
basicly it would require a lot of programming
and unless you phone was being powered by ac
it would suck your batt dry very very very fast
There is a more advanced software for it, it's called Video Camera Plus but it streams video signal as well as the sound. The thing is it doesn't always work well on my kaiser and I don't need a video to be transmited.
Basically I'm looking for something simpler.
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Hi I'd like to use my Kaiser as a wireless microphone (baby monitor function) and receive sound on my PC.
I've been thinking about using Bluetooth as well as WiFi connection.
Any Help?
Thanks
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Hi bklonica,
i think i have found for what you have asked....take a look here. We will use that in hospitals for childs. To hold contact with the parents, where not network cam from axis is possible...
http://www.babymonitor-mobile.com/index.htm
Skype? Install fring on it and call your computer. Disable the sound on Kaiser and keep it plugged in. If you have wifi it should work.
I googled this and searched for it on these forums, but nothing turned up. I'm looking to use my phone connected to headphones as a bluetooth headset that I can connect to my laptop and listen to stuff.
Anyone know of a program or can whip out something like this?
anyone know what I'm talking about?
I would like to know about this too
My sound card on my laptop board is out, and shy of buying either a USB headset or a USB soundcard, I have no sound. So if you find anything on this please post. Even if its to connect via ActiveSync or WiFi, either one, just something would be great.
Maybe you upgradet your PC to 4 GB of RAM?
then it is possible that your Mainboard dont support the access to the full 4 GB RAM and just cant access the Memory for the Soundcard. (same happened to me, and i need to look for a BIOS update...)
If this is not true, you can for example Buy a Bluetooth Headset.
Because of my problem with the 4 GB Memory Upgrade i used my bluetooth headset and it worked with sound.
But because i wanted to make my sound loud on loudspeaker i got another crazy idea. (i often have thinks like that)
i enabled the bluetooth of my laptop and used my Laptop as one big external Soundcard.
also tried to use my Touch Pro, but it doesnt support the needed protocol in that direction.
Sound from Touch Pro to Laptop over bluetooth works, but not in the other direction. This would only be possible if we find any other Driver for the Phone.
Another Idea would be to use:
http://www.no23.de/no23web/Live-Audio-broadcasting-webradio-stream-online-radio.aspx?live=1
(didnt found a english webpage)
It is a tool that streams the sound from your PC. (dont know if that works without a soundcard)
you only need a player that plays a stream like that. (VideoLan for example?)
Good luck in your experiments.
If what your talking about is playing sound on your computer from your phone then you need to go into your bluetooth control panel on the PC and go over to the services tab under your devices properties box. Make sure you have the headset protocol checked and a2dp or ad2p whatever it is checked for the stereo. Go into the audio tab of the main window of the Bluetooth control panel and go to the audio tab, click on "Stereo audio player" under your devices section, then click connect. When you start dicking around with your device all sounds should now be played through your computer's speakers and the headset icon should be on the task bar of your phone.
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If what your talking about is playing sound on your computer from your phone then you need to go into your bluetooth control panel on the PC and go over to the services tab under your devices properties box. Make sure you have the headset protocol checked and a2dp or ad2p whatever it is checked for the stereo. Go into the audio tab of the main window of the Bluetooth control panel and go to the audio tab, click on "Stereo audio player" under your devices section, then click connect. When you start dicking around with your device all sounds should now be played through your computer's speakers and the headset icon should be on the task bar of your phone.
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I was just playing around with my laptop last night and was able to do the same thing. My laptop didn't come with bluetooth; however I was able to buy a bluetooth USB dongle at bestbuy for less than 20$. Now I can play music through my laptop speakers from my phone. As far as playing music the other way, with a broken computer sound card... I'm not sure if it will work...
You can By....
1.download and install winamp and nulsoft shoutcast source dsp . www.winamp.com
2.download and install SHOUTcast Distributed
Network Audio Server (DNAS)
3.cofigure acording to your ip adress,port,etc,then configure your router's firewall to allow that port (will play from lan and internet as well).
4. open winamp option>properties>plug-ins>dsp/effect>nullsoft shoutcast source dsp>configure the options like input output....
5.try playing from your windows media player with local adress ,example:- http://192.168.1.112:8080
6.save the play list and copy it to your phone (saves time).
7.on your phone connect wifi , run tcpmp and try playing that playlist .
works on my wing , dash and htc fuze . the audio is delayed by couple of seconds .
Guys, I would like your opinion / advice on -
I have a Windows Home Server which streams Video to the TV via a Media Centre Extender. I would like to stream Music all over the house from the centralised Server. I have an old Diamond and a couple of Kaisers lying in the house which can connect to the Server over wifi + HTC Network plugin. None of them would be having a SIM card inside. I am going to use Coreplayer as the network player to play the music files on the Server.
Is there any other solution or this is the most optimal solution.
Secondly, is there a dock which has built-in speakers or facility to add speakers as well as charging for the diamond?
Any idea / help will be appreciated.
Thanks,