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Anyways, has anyone else heard of this yet?
I am researching like a mad man tonight.. I've dug up some interesting shyt.
Here are the links you should check out.
http://cellphones.engadget.com/entry/1234000353051184/
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52054
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70360
HERE HERE HERE
http://www.pcsintel.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1001
HERE HERE HERE
http://www.pcsintel.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4929
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No, I have many sources reporting many things, and some things I can talk about (mostly what's out there) and somethings I can't (mostly not what's out there).
I wrote the PPC-6600 "Upgrade" article to force Sprint to disclose on-the-record that an upgrade will be offered for existing owners. It was a clear, yet at the same time, carefully worded piece of consumer advocacy, and it served its purpose. When everything's disclosed I think it will be clear why. Regardless of what the 6700 does turn out to be, 6600 owners would have been otherwise left feeling forced to upgrade.
What I have said all along as to what the 6700 is, is that it is a device that would not be motivating for other 6600 owners to upgrade to for the most part with the exception of it is EV-DO enabled.
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wow...
WHAT?!?
nobody has anything to say?
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well Telus then seems like it has a way better deal with the same thing but at half the price.....
Copenhagen, it looks like we have the same device, what have to done to yours to make it Better?
szamot said:
well Telus then seems like it has a way better deal with the same thing but at half the price.....
Copenhagen, it looks like we have the same device, what have to done to yours to make it Better?
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Telus is starting it's evdo network in the first quater of 2006. Hopefully we should get an update offered to us as well.
I don't think telus' version of the ppc6600 has evdo enabled out of the box. <- can someone check on this??
I havn't done any upgrades yet.. as there havn't been any offered to date.
The bluetooth stack on this unit is fairly stable and the radio and ext rom are both one of the newest versions available. I've only found rom updates for GSM units and others that are incompatible with our CDMA version of the ppc6600.
I'm not sure how many other countries are using this exact model of ppc6600. I know new zeland telecom, sprint & verison, telus and bell are using the same. That should indicate that if sprint releases an update, then so will the others. Sprints update renames their model of ppc6600 to ppc6700...
When that time comes, paying ANOTHER ~600 bucks would be outrageous. The phone just came out here and I paid the 350 w/ 3 yrs contract. I would pay for an update of course but it would have to be reasonable... 600+ is not. If sprint DOES release an update, it will make its way to xda. By that time, hopefully, the forum here should recognize our ppc6600 and make a separate section for us where we can test and update our models f.o.c.
I'm hopeing that if and when there is an update, wm2005 is included but I dont think it will be. It will happen. Eventually someone will sort it all out, and then we can live in wm2005 land happily ever after.
Well I bit the bullet and only signed a one year contract with Telus, that's as much as I can stomach with them. As far as EVDO goes I am not so sure. Telus is on strike so not much will happen and they are projecting this might go until 2006. What I would really like to see is to have them finalize the Number Portability business and then I could take my number and go GSM. I think that is the best option we have right now for getting WM5 on a device in Canada aside from I-mate and Rogeres.
did you update your ext rom? where did the .115 come from?
gimee gimee gimee!!!!!
is ther any improvement over the .00 release?
-cope
copenhagen said:
did you update your ext rom? where did the .115 come from?
gimee gimee gimee!!!!!
is ther any improvement over the .00 release?
-cope
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Actually all that was already installed on the device and I have dumped it here if you want to grab it. Should be in wiki.
Alright just saw this on Engadget, Telus will be releasing the phone this summer with a 449.99 no contract cost, I think that equates to like 470 American? Anyways here is the link!
http://www.telusmobility.com/on/pcs/handset_htc_p3100.shtml
EVDO capable!
looks like the taiwan version HTC P3702 Victor.
same hardware T-Mobile will use for it's Compact IV i think.
technically the devices are identical
I am almost 100% sure the image is just some stock photo Telus took. I don't even think it is a diamond. Just something to put up there for now.
i work at telus and have been waiting for this news since i first heard of the diamond. i guess this timing is supposed to counter the iphone release in canada july 11. they are not giving us any details, would not even confirm if it has gps. it seems hard to say as this is diffeerent than the gsm version of this handset. i can't wait to get my hands on one..... im torn on if i should give up my p4000 (titan) for this when it comes out
krazycanuck82 said:
i work at telus and have been waiting for this news since i first heard of the diamond. i guess this timing is supposed to counter the iphone release in canada july 11. they are not giving us any details, would not even confirm if it has gps. it seems hard to say as this is diffeerent than the gsm version of this handset. i can't wait to get my hands on one..... im torn on if i should give up my p4000 (titan) for this when it comes out
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Currently, it says it'll have WIFI, Rev.A, and Telus Navigator, etc.
Those are the features that Vogue users on Telus have been fighting for so this could be a better alternative to waiting for a firmware upgrade... especially given the across-the-board improvements.
I'll bet that GPS is locked to Telus Navigator only... but at least it'll be active and I'm sure someone will free it before long.
Hi guys and gals, we just got our hands on the unlocked GSM version of the Touch Diamond for the US, with US (err, AT&T) 3G. Here's my first look: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/US-3G-HTC-Touch-Diamond.htm .
It has 850/1900MHz HSDPA, and is quad band GSM. Short summary: no front-facing camera, matte back and bigger battery.
- Lisa
Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?
nice, thats awesome!
No, the US version is the DIAM110, the DIAM100 won't do US 3G.
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Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?
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Sigh.. A different version (DIAM110) really breaks my last hope. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model would come as we are seeing now .. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.
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Sigh.. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model as we are seeing now will come at a later date.. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110..
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Unfortunately it was a known fact that the Diamonds sold prior to the actual US release were not intended for the US and the specifications clearly showed (htc.com) that it was not US 3G capable. Problem is there are so many bad resellers that will tell you anything to get you to buy from them. I also have noticed that a lot of the on-line resellers dont list the correct information for all phones however HTC is not at fault for that.
And at the original launch of the Diamond in London back in June, HTC did state that a US version would follow in a few months. We posted that in our news section at the time. Of course, given the often long lag before we see a US version, many folks were skeptical it would really come this soon.
I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..
There is no FM
The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?
tzour said:
I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..
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But if you look at the specifications it doesnt list the US 3G Bands. You would have to know which bands are used in the US to catch this. The point here though is HTC has not marketed this in the US. I believe all of the retailers of the foreign HTC phones sell the phones without the blessing of HTC. The problem is there are a lot of suckers here in the US with no patience and make the resellers rich by paying exorbitant fees for phones that were not intended for the US market. I am included in the list of suckers.
"Network HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz"
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46646
That's from HTC's Euro site. No mention there of US bands, just Europe and Asia.
Their US site doesn't list the Touch Diamond at all, since they don't offer it here. Though I'm sure they'll update the site to add the Sprint Diamond, and thereafter the US 3G GSM version once they officially announce it.
I said a hack *might* re-enable FM. The good coders here can help with that more than I can, I'm sure. I'd like to get the FM cab from the Euro Diamond to see if that works.
GSen works just fine though . Happily rotating anywhere I please.
dariop said:
The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?
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pdagal,
Good review. Is there any notable difference in performance between the unlocked GSM version and the Sprint version, or do they basically perform the same?
Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.
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Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.
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pdagal - say you could have either one for your personal phone and you didnt mind going with Sprint or ATT. Which would you pick and why?
I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.
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I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.
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Thanks - Those are the two reasons I have been going back and forth in my head as to which way to go. The only two reasons I still keep thinking about Sprint is for the navigation software incorporated and having the Sprint TV service (although I do have a Slingbox). I used the TeleNav on a Instinct for a few days and found it very nice.
tzour said:
Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.
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This is so bloody typical. You go out of you to buy a phone that is not sold in your country and then lawyer up to soothe over your ego.
Now youre going to blame the manufacturer and the shop owners for not treating you like the 6 year-old you seem to be and force them to eat the loss for your impatience.
If i was the judge sitting on this one i'd dismiss the case with costs to you.
I have a 110 on ATT in USA and find EDGE surprisingly useable. It is quite easy to use WIFI for large downloads. I can use for real time GPS maps (Google or Live). I was going to buy US version for 3G but don't think I need to.
The phone was sold IN the US through Amazon.com. No mention of it being Euro or no 3 G for US. I took a chance hoping a ROM would fix it but don't care now because it works so well.
Cheers.
In my particular case, the diam100 was advertised (by the importer) as 3G-enabled for my country. As it failed to comply, I'll return it and get a US when available. My DIAM100 is safe, packed and ready for a swap.
I hope with this information, Developers greater than myself (Dutty ...help dude...) can build a Radio ROM that will fix the Touch HD's US 3G issue. The information is all there, Officially From HTC. IT IS NOT A HARDWARE ISSUE - THIS CAN BE FIXED WITH SOFTWARE
HERE IS MY EMAIL THREADS TO AND FROM HTC TECHNICAL SUPPORT - happy reading ----- THE EMAIL THREAD DATES START FROM THE BOTTOM AND WORK UP.
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know how frustrating it is when the device does not work with your carrier's network. The radio hardware is in the device but since the device was not made for the North America the software does not open up the frequencies. Any software update would have to come the point of purchase that you purchased the device from and as it was not intended to be used on those frequencies the chances for software updates that would open up those frequencies are not likely. We do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/17/09 10:03:59 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Touch HD
Hey HTC,
Thank you for responding. From what you are saying though, the Hardware is in the phone? Because of it being a software issue, can this be fixed with a firmware update? Or some application that allows you to tune you Radio? I guess I'm still confused how the phone doesn't work since I'm getting AT&T signal enough to pull in EDGE over:Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) with a 3G SIM it should be 3G?
Again thanks for your time, I love this phone I'm just trying to get it to work. I've owned a 8125, Tilt, and now an HTC Touch HD. I'm a developer and wanted something with an Accelerometer but, didn't want the FUZE. I thought the HTC Touch HD was 3G and paid $700.00 for it.
Help me please techy dudes,
Darkrider
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Touch HD <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Touch HD.
I understand the frustration of your device not functioning as expected. While the device may have the same frequencies as AT&T, those frequencies on the device are calibrated for use with European and Asian carriers as a part of the radio hardware. Unfortunately, this means that there is not a way to reconfigure the device. I do apologize for the inconvenience.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 3:30:54 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey HTC,
Ok so one more set of questions. So now that we have ruled out Hardware, and we know it is AT&T Software. Is it possible to know what region of the Software could be causing the issue? Meaning is all of this just setting on the phone not configured correctly? If so would you know what settings should be configured? Is this a Program that is not reading the Radio correctly? If so is this something you would have for another HTC model that is using the same Radio Hardware? or is this all Some mysterious Hand Shake Program that is unknown to anyone but AT&T?
Thanks again,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We are happy to assist our customers. You are welcome, I hope that the information is help to you.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 12:17:12 PM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Thanks HTC,
This is all I needed to know, thank you. I've been digging in the craziest places on the web looking for that answer and it seemed no one knew the answer.
Thanks Again,
Darkrider
P.S.
I still love the damn phone.... you guy's make great stuff.
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
I know it is important to be able to your device with your carrier. However, the device's hardware is capable of 3G network and the bands used by AT&T. But due to differences in the software there limitations in frequencies and bands. As I explained before, the device was not originally designed for use in the States. The does not have AT&T software on it and there is not a way to put that software on the device. I do apologize for the inconveniences.
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
--- Original Message ---
Received: 3/16/09 10:59:00 AM EDT
To:<[email protected]>
Subject: re: Touch HD and 3G
Hey Cheryl,
Thank you for responding, what I find confusing to me is the phone has the 3G AT&T Bands(UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)) in a drop down that I can select under "BAND" settings?
So My question is: Is Hardware on the HTC Touch HD to support US 3G?
Thank you for you time,
Darkrider
From:<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:49 AM
Subject: Touch HD and 3G <<#4428-67337#>>
Hello Darkrider,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch HD.
We know how important it is to use the device to its full potential. However, the Touch HD was not originally created with the American networks in mind. It was originally made for the European and Asian markets and the networks in those areas are different from the networks here. AT&T uses the 850 and 1900 bands in North America. The Touch HD specifications are HSDPA/WCDMA:
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Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
* Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
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Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Darkrider, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
HTC Technical Support
http://www.america.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
We need the great chefs to start cooking!! This would really make my day, actually my year!!!
It is way beyond me, but if it is possible some here at xda will be able to do it.
But, since it hasn't been done, I doubt it.
Has to be more to it than stated in the letters
It certainly would be worth a nice donation, if it were true.
Hello, I think there are some mis-communication of facts from HTC. The HTC Touch HD does have 3G chipsets config for Asia/Europe of 900/2100 MHz. It does not have the hardware configured for the AT&T 3G network (850/1900) or TMO 3G network (1700). Therefore, there is no way (that I am away of) to reconfig the hardware radio chip to meet US requirements. Sorry about this bad news.
Unless you have the Telstra Touch HD (with NextG support) which of course uses 850MHz and 2100MHz for Telstra's 3G (UMTS) service... Something HTC forgot to mention it seems!
It is possible the HD does not pass US Standards certification
HTC cannot state that one region or countries device or frequency will work with another country/region for legal reasons.
This thread is completely inappropriate and has absolutely nothing to do with the development of ROM's!
There was a BAN for Qualcomm powered devices in the US not long ago if you remember! The HD development was started before this BAN was lifted so I think that this is the main reason why there are no US frequences. Now HTC have new models to work on and why should they care for an "OLD" device?
People WE CAN TRY!!!! hope dies last.
Probably we can use somehow radio from FUSE because it is also old model, and by the way G1, HD, FUSE they have approximately same hardware.
Sorry my english.
I'm ready fight to the end!
AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.
I do have the Telstra 850 version that is working fine on ATT 3G(850 band). Using several of the available ROMs in this forum there has been no change in either gain or loss of this band. From some other threads, I think just using the radio ROM from this device has not been successful. So, either a subtle hardware change or a hard coded setting may be the difference between the two.
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AFAIK the Blackstone uses the MSM7201A chipset, like the Raphael and G1. Maybe you could use Raph's Radio. Just flash it and see.
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Please tell me honestly is that really possible? I can try to flash it with out patching, and it won't kill my phone.
I downloaded AT&T radio from FUSE & tryed to flash it... but i faced a small problem, i need to sign RAPH's NBH for BLACKSTONE. I tryed to change string RAPH**** to BLAC**** in hex but flashing failed due to RSA_Failure... If someone of GURUS could explain me how to deal with NBH files (how to edit & sign) probably i could try to patch raphaels radio.
Sorry my english.
I am in the same boat...
I am in the same boat...I have great respect for this forum and the developers here and I would be willing to patch or flash my phone to try to get the AT&T 3G to work. Just tell me what to do. I am in the USA.
I bought this phone thinking it was 3G and have been greatly disappointed with this sad problem that I am sure can be fixed if someone took time to do it. I would gladly donate. This is the only reason I am considering selling the phone after 1 month of usage...
By the way, PM if you are interested.
You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.
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You need a security unlocked HD to flash non-HD radios or HTC's HD private RSA key to re-sign it. ATM there is no publicly known way to do a security unlock on Blackstone. Even if there was, there isn't any software limitation in radio ROM that prevents US 3G from working on Blackstone, so flashing a Fuze radio ROM won't change a thing.
This is a hardware limitation (just like with other recent HTC devices - Diamond, Raphael, Kovsky/X1); there are no amplifiers for NA 3G frequences in EMEA units. Period.
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Thank you very much for clear answer, but why then HTC says that there is no hardware difference between HD & Telstra HD?
HTC Touch HD - US 3G Radio Configuration - Call With AT&T Tech support
Can AT&T Force certain IMEI #'s into 2G or 3G?
Here is a brief Outline of my conversation with an AT&T Tech support official. (who had a rather sexy voice by the way...)
ME) I explained that I had an AT&T 3G Tilt, and that I had bought a Touch HD, and explained I transferred my SIM and that I only got EDGE 2G.
ME) I asked her what settings I needed to configure in order to get 3G?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I would be happy to help you, I'll need the IMEI #:
ME) I gave it to her
AT&T TECHNICIAN) I have this Phone in our System to only receive 2G.
ME) Clearly my phone can receive 3G, I have the settings in my Bands frequencies the phone is picking up of (UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900))
ME) Is this your 3G frequencies?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Yes.
ME) So if my Phone can detect these frequencies, and I have a 3G SIM card in, why isn't my phone on the 3G network?
AT&T TECHNICIAN) It should be. Sir the Phone was not supplied by us, so we cannot be sure what is causing your phone's issues.
AT&T TECHNICIAN) Let's jump into your phones connection settings
---------- She had me switch just about every setting in the phone's connection settings and in the Phone's properties, with no success of 3G ever working.
But I think the importance of all this was that, she had no idea why the phone didn't work, but was under the impression from the information I gave her and the information she had the phone should have worked?
Which makes you wonder if, it was all a ploy on the part of AT&T, or does the phone plain simply non work in 3G or....
Is it all a result of the IMEI# being blocked at the core to only receive 2G.
Can we muffle the IMEI# to look like another device like the Tilt or the FUZE?
ok seriously this thread is just descending into pure ridiculousness. The t8282 cannot do US 3g PERIOD. It has nothing to do w/ ATT or any other gsm company outside of the bands they use, which is not going to change.
Your HD DOES NOT have the radio functionality to connect to US 3g, if you want one that can connect to @ least the 850mhz spectrum, which only some providers use in limited areas GET A T8285.
Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt
Darkriderdesign said:
Upon receiving word of descending into ridiculousness... I'll stop posting Conversation threads from HTC and AT&T - again I thought I was helping the cause... The Touch HD is still a great phone, 3G would be nice but not needed. I still have my Tilt...ahhh my good ole' Tilt
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IMO, there's no such thing as a wrong/ridiculous opinion, anyone is free to share his thoughts and views. But it's wise to give up when it's time to give up...
Apart from a few ICs (frequency amplifiers), radio hardware is the same in T8282 and T8285. Your peers at HTC and AT&T may not be aware of the hardware differences/limitations. Unless you communicate with someone at engineering level, you won't know the truth, it's always a speculation to a certain degree.
has anyone extracted the Telstra Radio?. I'll be happy to test it on my HD.
I bought my HD2 from Telstra to use on AT&T. When I received it I couldn't get it to work on AT&T with the factory ROM and had to HSPL/Reflash it. What are the thought on the HD7 from Telstra working with an AT&T sim on the AT&T network? I would really hate to go back to a smaller screen and honestly the surround seems a bit kitchy.
You probably will have to have it sim unlocked. Thats easier than flashing a rom, but with WP7 I don't know.
i want to do the same thing i need an HD7 on at&t
i am on the same page
I am using a telstra hd2 on us att 3g, i switch between wm 6.5.x and android 2.2 desire rom, i've been using android a lot more lately, because i got tired of squeezing functionality out of winmo when its already there with android (tired of second rate facebook, foursquare apps etc ), alas i really want WP7 to succeed and will be there to support it, but i do not want to downgrade to a smaller device to stay on at&t, I have a cheap unlimited data plan (at&t thinks im using a
little nokia phone for data), the A list where i use my google voice for calls and have accrued over 3,000 roll over minutes,so it looks like ill be forking over $800 bucks again for a telstra hd7 if that's the case, i imagine though when i sell my unlocked hd2 running on att 3g network with dual operating systems i may get a decent penny on ebay to contribute towards the telstra hd7 purchase
and also has anyone else using this phone have found little support for those running android on it or anything else? sometimes i feel like im the only guy in the united states with a telstra hd2 and everyone else is using the tmo usa one, all the forums talk about the euro hd2 and the tmo usa one
im in the same boat, but with Bell in canada..i use the Telstra HD2 and from the looks of things were just getting the LG with the keyboard and a 3.5in screen..looks awful. im hoping the same with the HD7, just a matter of whether they can be sim unlocked. ill be keeping my eye on it and hoping for the best anyway.
Is it telstra even getting the hd7?
Seems like Telstra will be getting the HD7 exclusively in 2011 similar to what happened with the HD2.
Launch availability will be T-Mobile(US) O2(England/Germany) and SingTel(Singapore) none of which support UMTS/HSDPA 850.
Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
And for those of us that bought the Telstra HD2 we may recall the device came factory unlocked. Great for me as I'm using it on Telus in Toronto, Canada.
I looked at our launch line up here as well and our choices are pretty weak. I've read someone confirmed the Dell Venue Pro will work for us on the North American bands. That's my second choice.
But I think the HD7 from Telstra will be good to go. Except we'll be stuck with a Telstra Hub until someone figures out how to flash new roms lol..
pistol44 said:
Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
And for those of us that bought the Telstra HD2 we may recall the device came factory unlocked. Great for me as I'm using it on Telus in Toronto, Canada.
I looked at our launch line up here as well and our choices are pretty weak. I've read someone confirmed the Dell Venue Pro will work for us on the North American bands. That's my second choice.
But I think the HD7 from Telstra will be good to go. Except we'll be stuck with a Telstra Hub until someone figures out how to flash new roms lol..
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You can uninstall the operator's hub, it'll just come back at each hard reset
front facing camera?
is it possible to find someone who can install a front facing camera as well? I would pay who ever could do it, it can be done with the samsung vibrant, it is really disappointing there is no ffc installed
and now im worried once i import the hd7 from telstra will there be roms that i can use to remove the telstra hub and skins? I doubt a hard reset will remove this, we are all venturing into new ground here indeed
there are no skins, and the carrier apps can be uninstalled
pistol44 said:
Strange because according to these guys the HD7 will be coming to Telstra in November: http://smarthouse.com.au/Phones/Mobile/X6L9N4K3
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According to this article "Unfortunately the elusive HTC HD7 is not available at launch. It’s officially slated to be available exclusively through Telstra next year in 2011. You would be wise to bet the first half of the year."
I honestly believe it will be worth the wait.
Were you able to use your Telstra HD2 on AT&T straight out of the box? I ask this because I could not. It was indeed sim unlocked, but didn't work for me. Granted I only tested it once and then HSPL/Flash to NRG.
-Brad
ckacey said:
You can uninstall the operator's hub, it'll just come back at each hard reset
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When you say "uninstall" I assume then you mean just remove their hub from the homescreen without actually uninstalling their software.
bworls said:
According to this article "Unfortunately the elusive HTC HD7 is not available at launch. It’s officially slated to be available exclusively through Telstra next year in 2011. You would be wise to bet the first half of the year."
I honestly believe it will be worth the wait.
Were you able to use your Telstra HD2 on AT&T straight out of the box? I ask this because I could not. It was indeed sim unlocked, but didn't work for me. Granted I only tested it once and then HSPL/Flash to NRG.
-Brad
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Odd that on the same day 2 different stories would be printed. One saying it's available next month, the other saying next year. Guess we'll know for sure by November if it doesn't actually arrive.
For me personally it worked on the Telus network right out of the box, even before I HSPL'd it. The only hassle was setting up the data and mms manually. But later I found a few custom roms that did that for me.
Review of the HD7 PCWorld AU
"This Telstra-exclusive Windows Phone 7 smartphone will launch in Australia in January 2011."
Anyone have a time machine?
The UK carrier O2 is also adding the HD7 to their line up for Oct. and has quad band GSM:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Oct2010/o2-add-htc-hd7-windows-phone-7-smartphone.html
Based on my previous knowledge of quad band phones it should support the more popular 850/900/1800/1900 bands.. that being said can someone with more knowledge than myself confirm whether this would work similarly to the Telstra version?
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You probably will have to have it sim unlocked. Thats easier than flashing a rom, but with WP7 I don't know.
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Actually flashing a ROM won't work. You can't unlock the SIM by flashing another ROM, you have to get the unlock code regardless.
Most carriers do it for free or you can find a site online that will do it for a charge.
The OS does not effect SIM UNLOCKING so I do not see any change with WP7
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The UK carrier O2 is also adding the HD7 to their line up for Oct. and has quad band GSM:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Oct2010/o2-add-htc-hd7-windows-phone-7-smartphone.html
Based on my previous knowledge of quad band phones it should support the more popular 850/900/1800/1900 bands.. that being said can someone with more knowledge than myself confirm whether this would work similarly to the Telstra version?
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GSM (2G) is 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA (3G) is more than likely 900/2100 where AT&T is 850/1900
bworls said:
GSM (2G) is 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSDPA (3G) is more than likely 900/2100 where AT&T is 850/1900
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Yeah I figured as much.. wishful thinking I guess. So we wait until January 2011
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Actually flashing a ROM won't work. You can't unlock the SIM by flashing another ROM, you have to get the unlock code regardless.
Most carriers do it for free or you can find a site online that will do it for a charge.
The OS does not effect SIM UNLOCKING so I do not see any change with WP7
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Do you know any reliable and trusted website? I don't mind paying I just want to be sure the site can do it.