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FORGIVE ME, but please help?

FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss

1) when you wipe your phone it removes all personal data, e.g. google sign ins, apps, settings, messeges, etc. you WONT lose your contacts.
2) a ROM is a firmware build, which is what the phone runs on. There are quite a few of them because some are designed for looks over performance wheras some are for performance over looks.
3/4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523 - enjoy reading

dabx724 said:
FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss
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Welcome to the forums... Get familiar with the search button at the top. You will be amazed at what you can find...

Please read the stickies at the top of the forum page. This question belongs in the General Forum...not developer!!!

No I will not forgive you. Lol. I think its hilarious how many idiots we get posting in the developers forum asking questions like, What is a rom? Also, one of the mods needs to delete this thread pronto!

currentuserjade said:
Please read the stickies at the top of the forum page. This question belongs in the General Forum...not developer!!!
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This is Spot on. DEVELOPMENT section is active here because this is a DEVELOPMENT forums. However Technical support or General Questions should be in the DREAM subsection of the DREAM forums. NOT IN DEVELOPMENT
Reported.

DeadPhoenix said:
This is Spot on. DEVELOPMENT section is active here because this is a DEVELOPMENT forums. However Technical support or General Questions should be in the DREAM subsection of the DREAM forums. NOT IN DEVELOPMENT
Reported.
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lol DP you are on a reported roll here tonight.
google and search is so easy use... i just don't get some (or most) people.

A little advice... before you start all of this, make sure it doesn't take control of you. Before you know it you'll have alerts waking you up at night telling you someone's new rom just was posted. It will take you over if you let it. lol
Moderation is key.

isn't this a repost anyway?

lol and you bought a Google phone with Google Search built in....
1. It wipes all data on your phone (apps and data, not your firmware)
2. ROM stands for Read Only Memory. Take it as your G1's operating system, like Vista or XP on a computer
3. SPL is pretty much the interface you will be using when flashing an image or using fastboot commands. Be careful when you flash an SPL though, it can potentially brick your phone
4. Just watch out when you flash the SPL, and remember to use Nandroid backups. Installing firmware and applications alone will NEVER brick your phone. Flashing your SPL incorrectly with a corrupted download can, remember to check the MD5 checksums.

dabx724 said:
FORGIVE ME, for i am a total NOOB. I just got my g1 in the other day, and i am completely excited about it. I saw my friends phone and he was telling me i should root my phone, and told me all the benefits of it. The only thing is he didnt show me how to do it! instead told me to come here, the g1 shrine and all of its lovers. Now i just want some basic info anyone can give me, like:
1. what happens when i wipe my phone?
2. what exactly are roms? and why are there so many of them! (as im surfing through the threads)
3. what exactly is SPL?
4. and any other information you think is critical for my knowledge about the g1
Again i appreciate any help i can get from you guys, i know this community is a nice and friendly one so im glad to be here! thanks again guyss
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I know the feeling of total noobness, let me tell you.. Especially if you coming here and reading all the threads for the first because it can be pretty overwhelming. Hopefully I can pass some of my knowledge on to you to kind of, ease your fears.
.:: Answers ::.
1.)If you wipe your phone, your restoring it to factory settings.
2.)ROMS are different versions of the OS that friendly developers such as Haykuro, JesusFreke and Cyanogen put together, to provide different functionalities or the same functionalities just more reliably or in a different way. (The only way you can use a different ROM is by having root access to your phone.)
3.)Secondary Program Loader, typically, a second stage bootloader. Not a term actually used by Qualcomm for msm7k has a more complex boot path involving both CPUs. Initial/secondary program loader is usually in reference to nand/onenand boot setups where you have a very small initial bootloader (1k to 16k typical), that is just enough to load a much larger secondary bootloader. Often there is something that runs first, in-rom, on-die (this is true of omap and msm chips for example) that is responsible for getting the IPL loaded.
4.)I would browse the Android FAQ to find other pieces to the much growing puzzle. I would definitely root your phone though (instructions here), and once your ready, setup your apps2sd (instructions here). If you want, I can help you do your apps2sd too, just hit me up on Gtalk if you want. As for ROMS, if you need help choosing, you can (go here) or if you want a suggestion, i would use Cyanogen's v3.4 ROM because it's an way modified version of JF'sv1.51 but allows you to use the Ext3 format for your apps2sd (which is good).
Hopefully this sheds more light for you, hit me up if you have any other questions.

Questions about flashing ROMS

If I Wipe before flashing a new ROM, will this erase my user data like phone nums and programs settings??
Why does everything keep looking the same after I flashed TTG 1.6 with out wiping original?
Will flashing again after wiping make it bring up the themes by default??
Will the new Kernel enable BT and Camera on the ROMs that currently these do not work on once we flash over??
Thanks for the help

Wow.
Search engine?

Seriously Search and read that is how you learn. Are you that lazy
1. Yes
2. TTG 1.6 is not a 1.6 rom it is still a 1.5 rom so it will not look diff
3. NO and i am a little confused at to what you mean
4. NO

energizer1389 said:
If I Wipe before flashing a new ROM, will this erase my user data like phone nums and programs settings??
Why does everything keep looking the same after I flashed TTG 1.6 with out wiping original?
Will flashing again after wiping make it bring up the themes by default??
Will the new Kernel enable BT and Camera on the ROMs that currently these do not work on once we flash over??
Thanks for the help
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zippy-man said:
Seriously Search and read that is how you learn. Are you that lazy
1. Yes
2. TTG 1.6 is not a 1.6 rom it is still a 1.5 rom so it will not look diff
3. NO and i am a little confused at to what you mean
4. NO
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plus it's actually 0.1.6 which might be some sort of give-away clue.

mrcharlesiv said:
Wow.
Search engine?
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Dude, I spent 5 hours of my life(and will spend most of the next 2 weeks) reading the guides and the threads. 50+ pages threads to finely feel conftable on flashing my hero. U have to agree search is mediocre at best. Search for "nba" or "league pass" and u will get 0 results. Accidentally searching for something else I found 2 threads talking about nba league pass but the search still returned 0 results on nba or league pass. Now back to the subject:
Now that I have succesfully rooted my hero and installed custom rom, can u guys leed on what should I be searching for on the forum to enjoy to fullest the awesomeness of rooting?
ps. I love this forum and want to support it. After I'm done with my adventure I will create a thread with a "rooting for dummies" kinda thing to make life easier for new comers. Will include term definitions, links to guides and threads with customizations and links to donate to the devs.

I wasn't going to say anything about searching...but he does bring up a point. I spend far more time than I should have in searching how to compile Compcache with the CDMA Hero kernel source.
For you guys who are new to the ROM scene, Compcache is a kernel module that will take a portion of your main memory and use it as a compressed swap space, thus allowing you to run more programs at the cost of reduced main memory. It's perfect for people who don't run a swap partition on their SD card (which I do).
Now, I did what everyone on these forums complain about when someone who is new to the scene asks one of those questions that have been asked a few times...I searched these forums. My result: I found several posts on what Compcache is, a few on the internal mechanisms on how it works, and one posts that was related to GSM that was difficult to follow.
Searching more through Google, I found even more posts about what Compcache is and how to set it up (if you are using 2.6.29 kernel), but nothing about anyone compiling this.
Now, I know someone compiled it (it's in the Modaco kernel and the Gumbo kernel), but nobody's sharing information.
So, before we all go bounce on a new forum user like a cheetah on a three-legged antelope, perhaps you guys should search the forums for the answers and see how some of these questions the new forum users are asking are, in reality, not easy to find.
And for the new people out there...on page 1 of the this sub-forum, on the first and second entries, you will find a page pointing to a wiki entry (one each) that will tell you the available ROMs out there (and how to download them) and how to root your phone. So, before asking about how to root the phone or where can you get a ROM, check there. Or click on "The Darktremor" in my signature line. I have guides that will do the same thing (except rooting...I actually point back here for that since I actually thought the root guides were better than what I could write). However, if anyone wants me to build a rooting document (complete with pictures), let me know.
So, there's my opinion about it. I'm not going to say anymore on the topic.
energizer1389 said:
Dude, I spent 5 hours of my life reading the guides and the threads. 50+ pages threads to finely feel conftable on flashing my hero. U have to agree search is mediocre at best. Search for "nba" or "league pass" and u will get 0 results. Accidentally searching for something else I found 2 threads talking about nba league pass but the search still returned 0 results on nba or league pass. Now back to the subject:
Now that I have succesfully rooted my hero and installed custom rom, can u guys leed on what should I be searching for on the forum to enjoy to fullest the awesomeness of rooting?
ps. I love this forum and want to support it. After I'm done with my adventure I will create a thread with a "rooting for dummies" kinda thing to make life easier for new comers. Will include term definitions, links to guides and threads with customizations and links to donate to the devs.
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Just as a quick point, Gumbo does not have compcache

energizer1389 said:
Dude, I spent 5 hours of my life(and will spend most of the next 2 weeks) reading the guides and the threads. 50+ pages threads to finely feel conftable on flashing my hero. U have to agree search is mediocre at best. Search for "nba" or "league pass" and u will get 0 results. Accidentally searching for something else I found 2 threads talking about nba league pass but the search still returned 0 results on nba or league pass. Now back to the subject:
Now that I have succesfully rooted my hero and installed custom rom, can u guys leed on what should I be searching for on the forum to enjoy to fullest the awesomeness of rooting?
ps. I love this forum and want to support it. After I'm done with my adventure I will create a thread with a "rooting for dummies" kinda thing to make life easier for new comers. Will include term definitions, links to guides and threads with customizations and links to donate to the devs.
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I woke up one day and decided to root my G1. Did all of like an hour maybe 2 reading how to. Everthing after that is self explanatory imo.
With that said, its like 10 times simpler with the Hero. You can even use flipz auto root which requires virtually no effort. For those wanting to learn to root themselves, I pretty much wrote the "rooting for dummies" guide which is easily found via sticky wicki.
For all other inquiries, I have started a General/Hero Q&A thread. As a new comer, additions to this thread are highly valuable.

I have to say that Theresthatguy's thread on rooting is by far the best explanation of how to gain root without using the Pre-Kitchen (that is THE simplest way) and it helps you get familiar with using ADB and command line

afazel said:
Just as a quick point, Gumbo does not have compcache
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The kernel I'm working on does.

Lessthantito said:
I have to say that Theresthatguy's thread on rooting is by far the best explanation of how to gain root without using the Pre-Kitchen (that is THE simplest way) and it helps you get familiar with using ADB and command line
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That may have been the guide I used. Took me less than 10 minutes just by following it. I'll have to check, but I may have linked to that one at my site.

[Q] dump rom from phone

Hi All,
Please would someone be so kind and explain how to make a rom from a phone using anything would be good, but preferably flashable via odin
What i am asking is how to dump an I9000 rom so that I can flash it via Odin on a I900 once again, not porting just a basic dump.

i'm interrested too

Really dude? Read stickies, search, read up a ton before posting stupidly pointless threads like this. Sorry, but this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it.
In case you didn't know, porting ROMs from devices is extremely hard. There is progress going on porting HTC Sense from the Desire HD but it's extremely time consuming and difficult even for very experienced devs.

chambo622 said:
Really dude? Read stickies, search, read up a ton before posting stupidly pointless threads like this. Sorry, but this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it.
In case you didn't know, porting ROMs from devices is extremely hard. There is progress going on porting HTC Sense from the Desire HD but it's extremely time consuming and difficult even for very experienced devs.
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Did you do a search? well there is FA info at all on this topic, and I am not looking at porting a rom, i simply want to dump my rom as is as a image.
dd i guess could work, but how the hell do make it odin friendly?

"this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it"
you are the one !

fredapied said:
"this is a busy forum and people like you asking baseless questions aren't a part of it"
you are the one !
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Which am I, the one asking the baseless questions or the one telling others not to? =P
Dumping a ROM is definitely different than porting from another device, but the way your question stated you wanted to take a dump from another phone (Desire for example) and then magically stick that in Odin and make it work or something. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I take it you want to dump your current ROM and then publish for others to use, like Nandroid backup style? I guess that might be interesting although I'll personally stick to cooked ROMs like Docs that are ready to flash with all optimizations and changes applied at the get-go.

chambo622 said:
Which am I, the one asking the baseless questions or the one telling others not to? =P
Dumping a ROM is definitely different than porting from another device, but the way your question stated you wanted to take a dump from another phone (Desire for example) and then magically stick that in Odin and make it work or something. Sorry for misunderstanding.
I take it you want to dump your current ROM and then publish for others to use, like Nandroid backup style? I guess that might be interesting although I'll personally stick to cooked ROMs like Docs that are ready to flash with all optimizations and changes applied at the get-go.
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for life. Cryptic as it may be, but I guess the OP is interested in trying to make a backup.
I know samfirmware has most of the firmwares, but it would be nice to know how to create a flashable rom.

Some of us really would like to know how to do this. Samfirmwares does not have all the roms. They do not have the ntt docomo rom for japan on their site. The phone was just released the 28 October with the official 2.2 froyo rom on it. I would like to walk in the store dump the rom from their demo phone to sd card. Put the rom on my phone. I really want get my sp mode working. I have rom mananger. Does rom manager do rom dumps with the back rom option.

I agree this seems like a good idea, my bad for not understanding the Cyrptic OP lol
I don't think we get nandroid backups right now. I don't think anyone has taken a dump from a running SGS and turned it into a flashable ROM. I just know that Doc, Tatyuma and others have taken Samsung's packages and cooked them into their nice flashable zips.

chambo622 said:
I agree this seems like a good idea, my bad for not understanding the Cyrptic OP lol
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[Q] Rom Help for Quasi Newber

Hello Fam! I have a:
Samsung Captivate SGH I897
Currently running :
Cognition, 2.1.7
I'm looking to Change ROM's and I have a couple questions.
1) What is the best Rom for Battery life that has some cool Graffix/annimations
2) Do I have to Flash my Phone back to Stock before I flash a new ROM?
3)I recently Flashed my phone to Darky's 8.1 Somehow i ended up with the I9000 version and it crashed/bricked my phone. I spent 3+ hours restoring a bricked phone. anyone know a fix or a i897 version of this rom??
I liked what I saw of Darky's 8.1 but I need a stable version or a Rom that is Similar.
All help/Suggestions are greatly appreciated

Nike
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525

pbclst said:
Nike
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525
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I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?

HighSun_Murder said:
Hello Fam! I have a:
Samsung Captivate SGH I897
Currently running :
Cognition, 2.1.7
I'm looking to Change ROM's and I have a couple questions.
1) What is the best Rom for Battery life that has some cool Graffix/annimations
2) Do I have to Flash my Phone back to Stock before I flash a new ROM?
3)I recently Flashed my phone to Darky's 8.1 Somehow i ended up with the I9000 version and it crashed/bricked my phone. I spent 3+ hours restoring a bricked phone. anyone know a fix or a i897 version of this rom??
I liked what I saw of Darky's 8.1 but I need a stable version or a Rom that is Similar.
All help/Suggestions are greatly appreciated
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1. I use serendipity and it has great batterylife and a pretty awesome theme.
2. It's advisable to flash back to stock. You can use my program for this. LINK
3. Don't know anything about Darky's, sorry.

HighSun_Murder said:
I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?
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i think he intended to direct you to the second post in that thread (which must have fell under the 10% of that thread that you didn't read..sorry couldn't resist a friendly flame) as you are posting your question in the wrong part of the forum.
Rules for posting in Android Development
* If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
* It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
* Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
* If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
* Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
* If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
* Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
* If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
* So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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You should probably familiarize yourself with this as well or your setting yourself up for endless flaming and frustration:
REF] New to XDA? Questions about flashing ROMs? Please read this before posting!
Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
*EDIT* As it seems swedishcancerboi is having a hard time using the search function, here are some simple tips to make your searching easier. If you think there is already a thread that has been created containing the information you desire, under "Search by keyword", try changing the drop down box to "Search titles only". Also, try changing the "sort results by" drop down box to "Relevancy". If that still doesn't work do a google search of "xda (whatever you are looking for)" without the quotes.
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HighSun_Murder said:
I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?
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Nike - Greek word for victory. Also known as a popular brand of shoes.

Nike... Just do it...
Battery life?
Paragon for me on my particular phone
Graphics/animations? Dunno, not into too much eye candy, but there are themes galore available
I always ODIN to stock before I flash a ROM (Haven't tried the AIO yet, but looks interesting)
As for the Darky issue. Flash back to stock and start over.
You have to expect redirection when you're posting in the wrong forum.

xdahgary said:
Nike - Greek word for victory. Also known as a popular brand of shoes.
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Thank you Capitan Obvious.

I recommend Serendipidity with the Suckerpunch kernal. I've gotten great battery life with that combo also you can some cool animations to add to Serendipidity from the Serendipidity website. And when changing between completely different roms I usaully flash back to stock and do a master reset with odin
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

i recommend you build a jig or buy one online just in case, since you want to use custom rom.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...25272&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_595wt_1139

Duck and grind HighSun, duck and grind.
If you're still in the look-see stage as far as ROMs, there are a few that are well worth trying.
Paragon (my fav)
Serendipity
di11i's
Firebird (under new management so to speak)
That's my order of excellence but don't take my word for it. Flash what you like from reading whats offered and have fun. Follow the steps listed in each and you shouldn't have any issues. While not necessary to ODIN to stock, it's a good idea to get used to it in case you bork your phone and need to exchange it.

The best battery life i have gotten is with darky's 9.2 rom.
Running darky's 9.2

[Q] Samsung Captivate - Best ROM For Begginers...

Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...

ooDEWoo said:
Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...
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1. This question can't be answered. For many reasons but mainly because the Best ROM for you, that feels in your needs and such won't be the same as let's say, the best ROM for me. The best you can do if look at the features list and go through the last few pages of the ROM to know about the bugs/issues. There isn't a perfect ROM, just gotta find the one that suits you the best.
2. Follow the ROM's instructions in the OP (Don't forget the Gapps)
3. Refer to #1. Also, for respect for the Devs and to avoid flaming, threads like these often get closed.

Hey, we all start somewhere
Welcome and BWolf gave you some very sound advice. I've been flashing new ROMs pretty much on a daily basis this week to find the ROM that suits me the best. Enjoy flashing and playing around with different ROMs. The nice thing about this phone is that pretty much there are ways to revive it if something "happens."

Bane99 said:
Hey, we all start somewhere
Welcome and BWolf gave you some very sound advice. I've been flashing new ROMs pretty much on a daily basis this week to find the ROM that suits me the best. Enjoy flashing and playing around with different ROMs. The nice thing about this phone is that pretty much there are ways to revive it if something "happens."
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Dude hats off to you. Very correct. Even I flash ROMs almost daily. The worst thing ever happened to me was a boot loop and a home made jig saved me. Now I have a confidence that nothing can stop my phone. :thumbup:
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ooDEWoo said:
Hey Guys...
First of all - I am Amazed by the level of this forum... Its truly great...
I am Very new to XDA. I Still managed to figure out essential things for my captivate.
I spent straight 8 to 10hrs [Approx a Month ago] reading and searching variety of threads, links and videos and got the Idea about rooting, Custom ROM, Flashing etc...
[I must Repeat - "Just Idea", Because having no real background and knowledge about anything related to these things... I obviously feel like Still Missing a lot of basic terms]...
Anyways - Point for explaining all that is to Make my 'Beginner' Level clear... B'coz Members here called as beginners are also quite good with all these basic terms...
I am using 'LANIGHT' ROM right now...
Now the problem is... There are still some bugs in this version... [Camera, SMS, etc]
So the question is:
1. The Best, latest and most stable version of ROM out there - which would be great for beginners like us? [We can have this thread for the updates of such ROM time to time] - For Us - This part seems very difficult to figure out...
2. Also the process of installing that ROM...
3. And if there is a quick way to figure out the 1st question in forum... Except spending hours just reading the threads... Very very difficult work... [Hats of to you guys...]
Thanks in advance...
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Click to collapse
Choosing a rom is a hit and trial method. Just go to captivate android development forum and choose any rom which looks good download it and flash it using recovery. Most common thing is clockwork mod recovery to install any ROM. keep flashing different roms until you find the one that suits you. Happy flashing. :thumbup:
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

Avikar said:
Dude hats off to you. Very correct. Even I flash ROMs almost daily. The worst thing ever happened to me was a boot loop and a home made jig saved me. Now I have a confidence that nothing can stop my phone. :thumbup:
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I used to hold off buying a jig... until I truly needed one. Thanks to one click odin and heimdall, if anything happens, then you're always good to flash back to stock and try again
I highly recommend a jig as it can save you from a LOT of headache.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20710788&postcount=6
You can buy one or build it yourself. It's a great investment and insurance plan
Feel free to flash whatever Captivate ROM you like, just pay attention to the flashing procedures in each thread (as Bwolf said).

BWolf56 said:
1. This question can't be answered. For many reasons but mainly because the Best ROM for you, that feels in your needs and such won't be the same as let's say, the best ROM for me. The best you can do if look at the features list and go through the last few pages of the ROM to know about the bugs/issues. There isn't a perfect ROM, just gotta find the one that suits you the best.
2. Follow the ROM's instructions in the OP (Don't forget the Gapps)
3. Refer to #1. Also, for respect for the Devs and to avoid flaming, threads like these often get closed.
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Thanks...
But I will still Like to know The recent ROM - Which is stable and good for beginners Like me.

OK, start with CM10 stable.

ooDEWoo said:
Thanks...
But I will still Like to know The recent ROM - Which is stable and good for beginners Like me.
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Beginners like you? IMHO, there are lots of different beginners and you haven't shared enough for me to know what kind of beginner you are.
By recent and best, do you mean that you just want a stock ROM, perhaps rooted, but otherwise pretty much the same as the last stock release, Gingerbread KK4? It is 'recent' - because it is the latest and final official release, more recent than earlier releases.
Or do you want a ROM that is unofficial, won't be supported by your carrier or by Samsung, but that runs Jelly Bean 4.2 with an occasional bug or broken feature?
Beginner is relative to the field in question, yes? An Olympic gold medal swimming winner in his first year in medical school is a beginner at surgery,
Do you excel at really carefully reading and understanding all instructions before you start on a task?
So, if you are starting as a complete newbie, maybe go for KK4 Gingerbread and add the Corn Kernel. Get stable with that. Get comfortable making nandroid backups, and using root browsers to back up efs and other folders. get comfortable moving the files to your pc, to the external sd card, etc.
After getting all the stuff backed up with good knowledge about how to restore it all, then go flash a stable 4.1 or 4.2 jelly bean rom. you will need to flash twice. oh, and get gapps, too.
does this all sound like jibberish? read the sticky threads, read the glossaries, etc,.

If you're looking for a ROM with a lot of UI and benchmark improvements, Captivating by Sephi looks great, although I haven't tried it myself. No one here really wants to pick 1 specific ROM, because everyone is different and don't want to be rude to the dev's .
Flashing ROMs on the Captivate is fairly simple, and as others have stated if you have a jig (if you don't want to buy one pre-made, you can make your own w/o soldering, there's a guide in this forum for it), you can just play around with different ROMs and can almost always fix the phone if anything bad should happen.
Just browse XDA until you find one that you think you may like, read the reviews, and try it out for yourself

I recommended Captivating ROM by she phi.. U will not disappointed
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I consider myself a beginner and I like Cyanogenmod 10.1. I am using the nighties and I find it quite stable and easy to update.