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This is my first question; so apologies f I'm not clear.
I've been messing around a little with my phone. I have root, Amon_Ra's Recovery and I'm currently using MoDaCo's Enhanced ROM. Out of curiousity, I thought I'd try CyanogenMod and see what that was like.
So I wiped my Nexus, flashed Cyanogen and booted up. After linking to my Google Account, I noticed that none of my settings or apps from the cloud had been synced and nothing I did allowed me to access them. (I think I remember seeing that there is no automatic option for this, so that might have been the reason.)
Next, I tried MoDaCo's Froyo ROM for rooted phones, as I'm really curious about it. Same problem, nothing was synced.
Rather worried, I restored my phone to the Original Shipping image (keeping Amon_Ra's recovery) and not only did nothing sync, but starting any update would restart the phone, load up the Recovery and then fail to update with a verification error.
Rather irritated, I wiped and then flashed to MoDaCo's ROM. Lo and behold, all my apps and settings were restored from Google's Cloud.
I am so unbelievably confused, it's not funny. If I made a backup using Nandroid, would that restore my apps and settings when I changed to a new ROM? Or am I way off base here?
(I'm rather new at this, so apologies in advance.)
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
The last cyan rom I used (5.0.6?) did not have cloud restoring of apps, I always thought this was a froyo feature/?
Nandroid does a complete backup of your system including apps, settings, rom etc... so technically yes it does restore your apps, just not from the cloud.
Thanks behelit, but I'm not interested in restoring the original ROM, just the Apps and settings should I change to a different ROM.
Anyone have an idea why I can't access cloud from Froyo or Original stock ROM? Maybe I'm doing something wrong...
Hey. Is a nandroid backup all encompassing (kernel and all that too?) or what? I plan to test some stuff out and previously went all out the past 4 or 5 times thinking that restoring from a nandroid will create some problem if I am using that as my default rom. Can I safely flash to a new Tom and install a different kernal then restore the nandroid I have now and be back with pershoot (the kernal I am on now with cm6)?
Lastly can I keep multiple nandroids of various rom/kernals (assuming I understand it correctly from my previous question) and go between them without having problems arise (assuming the backups themselves are stable)?
Thanks in advance, xda is awesome!
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it is an image of EXACTLY what is on your phone at that time... so, rom, kernel, apps, text messages, call logs, ect.... literally everything...
you can keep images of as many different roms and kernals as your sd card will hold...
if you flash a new rom and kernel then restore back to an older nandroid you will revert back to that entire rom and kernel... however you can throw a new kernel on that old nandroid if you restore it...
it literally is as straight forward as it seems...
Yeah I keep many nand backups around. I actually rename them and move them to my computer, labeled in folders, for future use. And I just keep a current backup on the card. But it doesn't matter, keep as many as you like.
What I don't like is losing any recent info I've acquired since my last backup. I wish there were some way to extract the user data and merge that into a nand backup. For example I'll try out different themes or status bars, and wanna switch back via nand restore. But then I lose any texts, call logs, I got that day since yesterday's backup.
You have Call log backup, SMS Backup and APN backup - exactly for that. Search the market. And Titanium can backup app data, if needed.
JHaste said:
it is an image of EXACTLY what is on your phone at that time... so, rom, kernel, apps, text messages, call logs, ect.... literally everything...
you can keep images of as many different roms and kernals as your sd card will hold...
if you flash a new rom and kernel then restore back to an older nandroid you will revert back to that entire rom and kernel... however you can throw a new kernel on that old nandroid if you restore it...
it literally is as straight forward as it seems...
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Very cool. Going to have much fun with this tonight. Ty for the info guys!
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RogerPodacter said:
Yeah I keep many nand backups around. I actually rename them and move them to my computer, labeled in folders, for future use. And I just keep a current backup on the card. But it doesn't matter, keep as many as you like.
What I don't like is losing any recent info I've acquired since my last backup. I wish there were some way to extract the user data and merge that into a nand backup. For example I'll try out different themes or status bars, and wanna switch back via nand restore. But then I lose any texts, call logs, I got that day since yesterday's backup.
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sms backup and restore app and call log back and restore app from the market does it just fine for me.
JHaste said:
it is an image of EXACTLY what is on your phone at that time... so, rom, kernel, apps, text messages, call logs, ect.... literally everything...
you can keep images of as many different roms and kernals as your sd card will hold...
if you flash a new rom and kernel then restore back to an older nandroid you will revert back to that entire rom and kernel... however you can throw a new kernel on that old nandroid if you restore it...
it literally is as straight forward as it seems...
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i think the firmware is not included
I know I could download the Desire port and flash it via recovery to get the sense ui, but that would erase everything, and I don't want to do that.
I want to know if I could just download a sense ui app or mod or something and install it over my current existing ROM without having to erase everything? Right now I have stock froyo, and would like to try sense, but I find flashing that desire rom, and installing 250 apps and restoring settings daunting. I have searched everywhere, and aside from installing the desire ROM, I can't find any answers.
what25 said:
I know I could download the Desire port and flash it via recovery to get the sense ui, but that would erase everything, and I don't want to do that.
I want to know if I could just download a sense ui app or mod or something and install it over my current existing ROM without having to erase everything? Right now I have stock froyo, and would like to try sense, but I find flashing that desire rom, and installing 250 apps and restoring settings daunting. I have searched everywhere, and aside from installing the desire ROM, I can't find any answers.
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The Sense framework requires total replacement.
What you can do is:
- take a nandroid backup of your current config in case you want to revert
- take a Titanium backup as well
From a clean install of the Sense ROM, you can restore 95% of the apps and app data with Titanium. If you have the paid version you can even restore Market links for those apps. You'll have to redo the home screens and some system settings, but it's not all that bad.
Sup XDA... first time poster... on/off lurker... just a quick question i was messing with my captivate today trying to load 2.2 on it... kies wasn't working for me so i did a whole lotta messing around with the phone... in the process i backed up my stuff on TB... while trying to restore it, it restored from a previous upgrade i did in dec. i ended up losing most of my text messages, profiles i set up and important memos... anything i can do to restore it or am i screwed...?
I think i accidentally hit the back up user apps instead of user apps+data and restored user apps+data... could that be the reason...?
I don't think that TiBu backs up text messages. I use SMS backup+ on the market for that. It backs it up to my Gmail account. It does this automatically, and has the option to restore if I flash a new ROM.
I read somewhere that TiBu system data back ups can cause issues if you flash a new ROM and try to restore system data from a different ROM. So I have always been afraid of system data in TiBu.
If you back up the apps without the data, then the app will install, but it's a fresh install. That way anything you did in the app is lost. For example if you back up just the app Facebook, when you restore you are not signed in anymore. If you backup app + data, when you restore you are already signed in again. That could be how you lost memos from an app, but Text messages is another animal.
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.
Don't really think you can do anything at this point to get your stuff back. You should do a nandroid backup before flashing new firmware, though. If the rom you flashed didn't work, or if you couldn't restore something with TB (or forgot to even do a TB backup), you can always roll your phone back to your previous firmware, complete with all your data.
quarlow said:
I don't think that TiBu backs up
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.
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Agree a ROM is the way to go. Huge improvement over just using a bloated 2.2.
For those who flash their phones with different roms monthly, weekly or even daily.. do you manually restore all your settings each time you flash (since you are not supposed to restore app data with titanium)?
This is the only thing keeping me from flashing more than once or twice a year.. too much overhead work to get my phone the way it was before. Is there a way to avoid the tedious task of backing up my applications one by one?
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Well i flash new rom weekly and i always use titanium backup. It works like a charm,never gave me any error. Contacts and messages i save on google account. The only thing i have to do manually is changing the display and sound settings. And in 10mins i get the phone working just same as before.
P.s: i backup only my own installed app+data not the system apps. And it works on every rom , even cyanogen and miui
Edit: and use titanium donate version, it lets you restore/backup apps in one go...
That problem may occur while moving from samsung based rom to cm/miui and only with some apps. If you just flash samsung roms there is absolutely no reason not to restore with data.
Give a try to Mybackup root.
It can restore your apps with one tap.
Or you can try to make a zip to push what you want in data partition.
Search "update.zip generator" in this forum....
Mybackup has tons and tons of bugs.
What are you talking about?
I've used last time i switched from JVT stock to cyanogen 175 build, and the only one thing is not working is opera mobile.
I'm using titanium backup paid version. Every time l use the apps + data restore without much ill effects. The only apps I don't backup is droidwall.