The "So, have any past experience with previous Sony Ericsson phones?" thread. - XPERIA X1 ROM Development

The "So, have any past experience with previous Sony Ericsson phones?" thread.
I started out with the meager p800, and have to say that that phone past a huge milestone in cellphone history. The p900 was the a good sucessor as well, and I have had the p910 too.
I think the p910 had superb build quality, and well---was a good phone.
Then I moved on to the p990---although it had bugs, and crashed more than it's predecessors, it still did what it was meant to do, which was to be a good phone.
I skipped the p1i...and jumped into the X1.
So far, Xperia X1 is a good phone, with lot's of options, especially if you custom flash it!
I think Sony Ericsson has and still makes very well phones.

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I started with the t230 moved to the k700i. Both were good phones but quite simple. After that I had the W850i. That phone was great but when I saw the Xperia X1 for the first time at the barcelone mobile conference I knew it for sure. I must have that phone. So then I got the xperia x1. After all I think this is the best phone I had. It really can do everything and I can cook my own roms. So it's great.

K790c, W810i, W580i(2), C902, W760a, X1a
All dependable and excellent to mod.
K790c remains the best "phone" only. Awesome reception after mod to quad band.
X1a most versatile, obviously

Started with :
T637
P910
P990
and then
X1

Just w810i, from Sony Ericsson.
It was rock solid, well designed, and when customized, was very capable. I then migrated to Hermes and Kaiser products which didn't look or feel as good.
Now I have X1a which looks and feels much better... but it is not the sturdy brick I loved before (I still miss that w810i sometimes). I gave it to my girlfriend, and I offered to buy her a new phone, but she really likes it.
Anyone else remember that phone as fondly as I do?

The last phone I had was the w810. It lasted me a good 3 years before the screen shattered the day before my X1i arrived in the mail. It was like it knew it's time was up...
Before that, I had a K750 (virtually the same as the w810 with that massive camera slider) a t610 and a t237.

T230
K700i
K750
(N95)
Now X1a
I miss my K750 sometimes too, SMS software unbeaten so far for me, and very capable is the right word for it.

K750i > K800i > K810i > K850i > P1i > X1i
All of the phones are awesome but the best build quality for me had K800i )

Started with the K700, then K800, then K850, finally the X1. All of them heavily modded.
I still use my k850 as a digicam. Will probably be sticking with the X1 for a long time. My only frustration is the camera drivers are not as easily moddable as my previous "dumb" phones.

Started with P990i then X1, great phones

I have been and still am a longtime fan of SE phones.
The first one was the humble T310. It was pretty advanced for its time.
Then came a succession of other SE phones: T610 > T630 > W700i and now it's the X1i

I started with the Ericsson T60d and absolutely loved the phone. Since then I have been hooked on SE.
- Ericsson T60d
- Sony Ericsson T610
- Sony Ericsson W810i
- Sony Ericsson G705
- Sony Ericsson Xperia X1
I love SE

t36-k700i-k750-k800-p1-x1
the best was t36 then k800(best quality)
im so happy with x1,lots of soft,app but bed hardware quality

Oh, let me think now, i go a way back.
Ericsson:
GA628
T10
T18
T20 (2 of them, one as backup)
T28
T39 - still have it, excellent battery in the wild.
T68 (2 of them, one as backup)
Sony Ericsson:
T610- still have it
K700 (2 of them, one as backup), still have one.
P990 - still have it
P1
X1
As i think of it, i've personally had only one Nokia that sucked (3310). Samsungs just suck (i hate neon colours and childish sounds).

Fuzalert2k said:
I started out with the meager p800, and have to say that that phone past a huge milestone in cellphone history. The p900 was the a good sucessor as well, and I have had the p910 too.
I think the p910 had superb build quality, and well---was a good phone.
Then I moved on to the p990---although it had bugs, and crashed more than it's predecessors, it still did what it was meant to do, which was to be a good phone.
I skipped the p1i...and jumped into the X1.
So far, Xperia X1 is a good phone, with lot's of options, especially if you custom flash it!
I think Sony Ericsson has and still makes very well phones.
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...same here, but with a T28 first

Woa, nice to see all this SE history. I think my favorite SE phone of all time was either the p990 or the p910.

for me W800i, K800i, G900i & X1i
W800i - beautiful phone but mine have bluetooth issue
K800i - fast and lovely camera
G900i - slim and fast but camera sucks
X1i - beautiful, stylish and this forum made it 3x as good as the original

Long time SE fan
Well, I have always loved Sony Ericsson / Ericsson fan.
They have the best battery life, and all good buildt.
Had the T686 and T868 I think. Good brickphones.
Then it became Sony Ericsson.
T68i, T610i, K700, S700, K750i, K800i, K850i, and finally the X1.
Gotta say; I have always loved SE phones.

T65 - t310 - t630 - w550 - w880 - x1

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Close to buy a new phone, Help!

Hi guys!
I'm from the Elfin forum and I'm decided to buy a new phone, so I'm confused to choose between XPERIA and Omnia.
After search about both phone specs I was surprised to know that XPERIA is HW 3D capable and that it's almost or fully capable to run M2D 3D, so I'm almost sure to buy a XPERIA phone instead of Omnia.
I would like to know from you (people that really use this phone ) how is the phone on day by day use, with games and emulators, etc in overall aspects.
Sure about your help, thanks a lot!
Are you serious gonna buy a phone because it has manilla 3d?
Ok manilla 3d runs same as on the htc phones.. but this qualcomm cpu aint So good for other 3d purposses like games
If you can get a cheap xperia x1 sure go ahead but dont pay top price for it..
Since most of the xperia's will eventually get cracks or other problems..
you could also look at touch pro 2 it has bigger screen, tv out, g-sensor and 1 row more keys. (altho that one has the same cpu and tp2 is way more expansive)
you could also wait for other phones with the qualcomm snapdragon or nvidia tegra cpu's those 2 should come out soon i guess.
I'm in Brazil guy, on the local providers the most advanced phones are iPhone (isn't a smatphone), HTC Diamond, Omnia and now XPERIA.
I thinked on XPERIA cause the HW 3D and physical qwerty, and after for M2D 3D that's pretty cool interface.
The price for these phones on the Brazil providers it's about $700, are you think it expensive?
You sure, there are phones most capable, with g-sensor, tv-out, larger screen..., but about these I did mention, in your opinion, how is the best?
About the games, how it was?
Chaosstorm said:
Since most of the xperia's will eventually get cracks or other problems..
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No, most will NOT get them.
OP get the Xperia and be happy with your life afterwards (or happier).
Celso Marques said:
I'm in Brazil guy, on the local providers the most advanced phones are iPhone (isn't a smatphone), HTC Diamond, Omnia and now XPERIA.
I thinked on XPERIA cause the HW 3D and physical qwerty, and after for M2D 3D that's pretty cool interface.
The price for these phones on the Brazil providers it's about $700, are you think it expensive?
You sure, there are phones most capable, with g-sensor, tv-out, larger screen..., but about these I did mention, in your opinion, how is the best?
About the games, how it was?
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Yes, that is very expansive. Check ebay. I got mine for $270 in fairly mint condition.
orelsi said:
No, most will NOT get them.
OP get the Xperia and be happy with your life afterwards (or happier).
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Well ok mine didnt get cracks but the screen is going blue when sliding out (after repairs..) (before repairs it went out when sliding open)
So yes .. the phone has weird problems altho not every one will experience these
(yes i know a cable is loose and giving wrong colors but hey.. its a stupid problem because i didnt drop it ..)
Hi guys,
I had checked the ebay and the offers are about $500 for new phones, and $350 for used ones. In fact it's not so different of the prices in Brazil's operators
I readed something about cracks in some devices, but maybe it's a fault in some of first manufactured lot or else bad quality material that was used, that certainly already was changed on new manufactures.
But I want to know about the overall performance, if the device is really fast as the Diamond or Omnia (that are my other options of buy).
In truth, I'm discarding the Diamond because it has no SD slot, so I can't expand its memory.
Considereing the Omnia x XPERIA, I'm loosing a 5 megapixel camera, g-sensor, a little more speed processor and a little more large screen? But on XPERIA I'm getting a physical qwerty that maybe more useful that g-sensor, the 3.2 mp camera that is already more efficient than the 2 megapixel from my Elfin, double RAM and ROM, and the rest I think are equivalent.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2246&idPhone1=2422
What you can say about the day by day use?
I'm using both the Omnia and Xperia at present, but am prefering the Xperia...
Even though the Omnia has a 5mp camera, the X1 3.2mp is more than sufficent for random pictures, obviously not something you'd take holiday snaps with.
The lack of G-sensor is a blessing, it really annoyed me on the Omnia and usually I turned it off as the screen would change orientation when least expected.
Even though the screen on the X1 looks quite a lot smaller compared to the Omina, the quality is far superior in both touch response, colour and resolution, you can really tell the difference after using the X1 and then going back to the Omnia.
As for speed of use, I'm using the PCTECH WM6.1 custom rom which is amazing. Very responsive, speedy and with NO bugs or crashes I've come across from using for the last 3 weeks. It really does make the Xperia a joy to use.
Using the hardware keyboard is a joy from using the onscreen Omnia keyboard, now I can write so much without typos. My friends now know what I'm trying to say when I text them.
...but there are downsides to the Xperia v Omnia...mainly the sound that comes from the X1's speaker. The speaker quality is awful, the sound is very tinny and quiet. Without tweaking the Xperia to increase the ring volume it's almost unhearable, as for listening to music from it don't even bother, where as the Omnia's speaker quality is very good. It's loud and of great quality.
There also seems to be an issue with video playback on the X1, in that unless you downsize the resolution of the video's it's very choppy, where as the Omina is spot on.
Internet browsing for the X1 is MUCH faster than on my Omnia for some reason too.
Also I like the Xperia as it's more substantial when in your pocket. It's heavier and thicker than the Omnia but at least you know it is in your pocket. A lot of the time I wasn't sure if I'd lost my Omnia from my pocket due to it's slim size and light weight.
It's really what you want out of your phone as to which one to get.
I at present am enjoying the Xperia as my phone of choice rather than the Omnia, it just depends whether the ring tone issue bothers you that much.
Both are great Win Mo phones so either way you're getting a good phone which is highly customizable
I am X1 owner for half a year. The phone is very good regarding functionality and design, however it is rather slow. I am using official R2A firmware, I have read it gets faster with the newest R3A or custom ROMs - haven't tested it. And I must say I cannot compare it to other WM phones since I've never had any. For me it is a very basic requirement to be able to listen to music, have my RSS Reader App open and load a page in Opera and switch between these apps rapidly - the X1 doesn't manage this very well, gets stuck and you have to wait for some time. But as I've said, I don't know about other WM phones and to be honest I don't believe they are so much faster. As for gaming, the X1 is definitely not a gamer's choice. You can play NFS and stuff very well but there aren't so many cool WVGA games. I had big trouble running emulators. PS1 emulator works but with about 2 FPS, GBC emulator is almost well-playable without sound. That's it. If you want a phone for playing games, the X1 is not the right device for you.
from my opinion, xperia is neaerly a year old. x2 is already coming really soon, well, within the next few months then, furthermore, HTC leo is more powerfull, but most probably lacks a hardware keyboard... so... if I were you, i'd wait a few more moments... look around on different websites to see new phone previews etc. etc. and for games... well, maybe you shouldconsider an iphone 3G, wich, is also a year old and may be much cheaper now, but it let's you play games for dayzzzzzzz
it is expensive from ebay,you can by cheap phone from us
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the screen!
dude! dont forget the screen! i cant believe noone mentioned this before!
yea the omnia screen is slightly larger, but the xperia screen has MUCH higher resolution!
omnia is a measly 400x240 while xperia is a whopping 800x480!!
considering screen size/resolution,, the xperia has almost 5 times the res of omnia! pair that with coreplayer and xperia is a hel of alot better to watch movies on!
also the media panel is great, smooth flick scrolling and amazing sound quality add up to a great music device.
go for xperia dude, definitely
although 700 is too much, it goes for 450 now brand new in lebanon.
ehjoy!
Hi guys!
Thanks a lot for all your comments and opinions, it will be very useful for me and will help me to decide.
I'll evaluate all data you provide me, before decide and to buy.
Thanks a lot! Who knows in a very soon future, we'll be all together in a same board

Thinking of Buying a Xperia X1 what do you guys think of it?

Thinking of Buying a Xperia X1 what do you guys think of it? In terms of build quality and durability as well as everything else.
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Thinking of Buying a Xperia X1 what do you guys think of it? In terms of build quality and durability as well as everything else.
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Its good, but had i been in ur place, i wud reconsider X1 for X2..X2 is better actually..but u take the pic..
The X2 does look good...but the X1 is a fantastic machine. Plus the price now is a lot cheaper than when first launched. The only problem I can foresee is trying to find a new one...I could be wrong of course
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The X2 does look good...but the X1 is a fantastic machine. Plus the price now is a lot cheaper than when first launched. The only problem I can foresee is trying to find a new one...I could be wrong of course
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You can buy one here in Poland.
If I were in your shoes i wouldnt bother. Im on my 4th Xperia in 13 months!
I cannot comment on the X2 but personally would wait for the X10 or choose the new nokia.
My own opinion
To give advice i would suggest to stay away from SE until they get their act together.
If i'd buy a phone today, it'd be the HD2... sure no hardware QWERTY, but with that 4.3" screen you get one hell of a on screen keyboard.. =)
Other than that it's so much more powerful and has more features..
I've had my Xperia X1 since February, and the only problem I've had with it was the slight wearing out of most-used keys on the keyboard. And even that was replaced when I sent it in to SE Repair.
If you want an Xperia, and you'd rather go with a device that has a lot of support and is much, much cheaper, I'd say the X1 is a good idea for you. I plan on selling my black X1i (lightly used, I figure 300ish isn't bad) and getting the X2a when it comes out, for US 3G support, because I absolutely love the new keyboard and design. Plus I just like keeping up on mobile phones
well, since you've asked about build quality and durability - stay away! i own this phone 11 months and it's been in repair for 2 months and 1 week...
you can read in this forum about it:
- hw-keyb deteriorates over time (buttons either don't work or act like pressed 3 times)
- cracks in case
- battery cover (black) scratches very easy
- buttons under the screen lose their shiny finish through usage
- in my case a part of the touch-monitors most upper layer faded (no scratch!)
- monitor cable inside also seems prown to be faulty
also it doesn't get any software-updates anymore. "final" firmware dates from march 2009. and there are still bugs left, especially in performance (lag when playing it's own videos...) i've read somewhere that the new x2-panels don't work on x1 officially. x1-panels are too few to make good use of them.
and if you want to use custom roms (with manila) or the goodies from x2 be prepared for a neverending story of flashing, bug-fixing and waiting for new releases by the cooks. cooking yourself is even more time-consuming.
at the moment stay away from SE. and if you don't want to spend the money for something like a hd2, i'd recommend an htc touch pro 2. same hardware as x1, but a better software-foundation than the x1. plus manila and official update to winmo 6.5.
Well, buy it if you like it.
My Xperia works since Dec 2008 and it's the best SE phone I ever had.
The crack appeared when device hit the floor hard.
So for me build quality is good.
As for HTC TPro 2 - well, as for "software foundation" there's no difference between this and X1.
Some people love TF3D, some - like me - don't and I just love panels.
In reverse HTC has ****ty hardware buttons while SE gives you all the options.
So in the end it's all about subtle differences.
For me the whole X1 concept works.
caliban is saying everything you´ll need to know..
nice phone,crappy quality
some Plastic will kill your Fun ,believe me
-a lot of problems....
save a little bit more of money and buy a touch pro 2....
oh...and forget to buy some other SE Devices...big company,big quality problems at the moment,dood !
If I were in your shoes I'd get the LG Expo or HD2. Caliban is accurate above but I actually think the X1 is a very good device - after tweaking my only big complaint is the sluggishness - it just can't be fixed. Pretty soon all software will be designed for Snapdragon or faster processors, so I would jump on that bandwagon.
hofo_mofo said:
The X2 does look good...but the X1 is a fantastic machine. Plus the price now is a lot cheaper than when first launched. The only problem I can foresee is trying to find a new one...I could be wrong of course
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Do not get it. Just don't. It's a phone that comes to be luxurious and high-end. But it ages it quickly.

x1 to which phone?please advise:)

hi guys.i am x1 owner more than a year.i had good and bad experience with my x1.now this is the time to upgrade my phone.which phones you guys are recommeding?
3 things are essential for me.sliding keyboard(aka hardware keyboard) , fast cpu and large screen.what do you thing?which phone shoudl i get?thx in advance...
few i want recommend such as HD2 or X10 but they dont have sliding keyboard
I am pondering currently between the HD2 and much more simple HTC Snap.
HD2 is very expensive though...
And after what i've seen from Sony with the X1 - X2 is out of the question
I am thinking about buying X10 mini pro... Cheap enough and nice qwerty keyboard. and ANDROID!!!
get an lg expo 1ghz cpu nice screen and sliding keyboard.
I would also go for a LG Expo if I had to choose a phone now.
Overclocked milestone/droid
thx for all your comments and advice guys.you are very help full.lg expo looks very good.i review omniaII as well.looks not bad...is there any 1ghz one hand device guys?like htc snap?!htc snap screen looks small and cpu is same as x1...i must read and investigate more
I've made my decision....
X1 isnt that bad of a phone so i'm gonna stick with it until it breaks, for 18 a month i can get unlimited texts, unlimited data and 300 minutes for a sim only deal.
HD2 and Lg expo and that are just soo expensive! even with contract!
Its the same for me. I dont see a reason to replace my Xperia X1. It does everything I need just perfectly.
Samsung GT-B7610 OmniaPRO looks ok. But no D-pad
human75 said:
hi guys.i am x1 owner more than a year.i had good and bad experience with my x1.now this is the time to upgrade my phone.which phones you guys are recommeding?
3 things are essential for me.sliding keyboard(aka hardware keyboard) , fast cpu and large screen.what do you thing?which phone shoudl i get?thx in advance...
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http://www.expansys.co.za/d.aspx?i=190234
I'm also staying with the X1 until it breaks. After that I'll probably get the Nexus 2, since WP7 is turning me off.
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http://www.expansys.co.za/d.aspx?i=190234
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thx for advice but i never like motorola product.i tried motorola 3 times and i always have proplem and i gave my promiseto dont buy motorola.but looks cool.
harveydent said:
I'm also staying with the X1 until it breaks. After that I'll probably get the Nexus 2, since WP7 is turning me off.
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I'm with you on this one. Too bad it won't have Sense UI, though. I can hope they do something better than default Android OS.
Since I am in U.S. I feel deprived of options since HD2, Omnia series phones, and even the Nexus One are not usable on AT&T 3G.
I had Xperia X1 - it was a great device. The only problem I had was the poor reception.
If I was you, I'd buy one of the following:
- HTC HD2
- Sony Ericsson X10 (Nexus One is to ugly for my taste, sorry)
... or hold your breath for a while... Windows Phone 7 will arrive soon
Good luck!
I'm using my x1 from 3 month...i have 2 reasons to change it: the slide is going damnly ko (i will go soon to service center...), and is missing video acceleration for divx....!!
I think the better wm phone now is lg gw820 expo....but i live in Italy and it is not available in europe....!
Another nice one can be samsung b7610!
If you like android try to consider the cheap lg gw620.
I think i will repair my x1 slide and may be i will wait Christmas to upgrade it, because when will be availabe wm7 phones, wm6.5 phone will be cheaper!
Sorry for my bugged english...!!

[Q] Should I buy Xperia X1 now?

Most phones in the market had one or the other reason for me to eliminate them (be it cost or feature).
I have shortlisted SE Xperia X1 and SE Hazel. The cost difference between these 2 models is about $50.
Which one should I choose? One a 2 year old smartphone and the other non-smartphone. Does it make sense to go for the X1 over the Hazel?
I have NOT used any smartphone till date and I normally keep my phone for more than 2 years.
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I have shortlisted SE Xperia X1 and SE Hazel. The cost difference between these 2 models is about $50.
Which one should I choose? One a 2 year old smartphone and the other non-smartphone. Does it make sense to go for the X1 over the Hazel?
I have NOT used any smartphone till date and I normally keep my phone for more than 2 years.
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It all comes down to your preference. If all you want is simple and stable and just a simply "phone" to call others, pick the Hazel.
If you don't mind the pain for the learning curve and have to do a lot reading here (especially you are new to smartphone), X1 is still a powerful workhorse for your MP3/video, GPS, personal data organizer.
I'd recommend it if you can get it for a good price - dont pay like £300 for it - but it is a good device but theres lots to learn and much to tweak to get it good. if you got time to do that then go frit!
jackleung and comeradealexi - Thank you very much for your response.
You have helped me decide on the phone. I will go with X1. I am getting it for approx. £200.
I also recommend you the X1. You will get a powerful smartphone with the freedom of Windows Mobile. Use xda-developers as your source for software and you will realise sooner or later that there is a freeware solution for almost every need/ situation.
Don't buy X1 now. Go for an HTC Android phone. X1 is slow.
I would chose an Android device over the X1. The 800x480 pixel resolution is too much for xperia processor so it will be slow in multiple situations. Look for an Android device in the same price range, and you will be happier (or at least this is what I'll do if I was in your situation; Xperia is a great phone, I don't regret I payed for it).
Or look at a WM phone with better processor or lower screen resolution.
Cheers!
short answer: no, don't buy it. it's old...
longer answer:
it's hw is outdated and the drivers provided by SE are inferior. SE did a real lousy job on this. the official rom comes with winmo 6.1, the panels just suck. we all use 6.5-roms, but since there's no official 6.5-rom as a base, it's always a bit of a workaround on the x1.
go android. or have a look at windows phone 7. if it has to be windows mobile (it's all but dead now!), get the hd2 (touch pro 2 may be cheaper, if you can get one). everything else you wouldn't really enjoy.
(btw, the resolution isn't too much for the hw - it's the drivers. if you ever had a go with htc's touch pro 2, you'd know. same hw, better drivers, way better performance)
Don't buy from Sony Ericsson.
I've been a big SE fanboy in the past and I still use several of my old SE phones but they've been releasing crap/crippled phones at an alarming rate recently.
I don't regret that i own an x1, but i bought it almost 2 years ago. Don't buy a X1. The X10 mini pro, or other Android phones, are also low priced, so there are no reasons to buy a x1 now. The X1 is out-of-the-box a bit slow and you have to do a lot of tweaking/flashing before it's pleasant to use.
I HAVE NO REGRET FOR GETTING MY X1 2 YEARS AGO!!
but for now, just go for android
If you can get it cheap, you like the freedom of Windows Mobile and you can deal with the disadvantages of Windows Mobile I recommend you buying the Xperia X1. It's still one of the best WM devices available (and it will be forever since WM isn't in development anymore). I love mine.
But if you want an operating system that is up to date and will be further developed you have to look somewhere else (Android, Iphone, WP 7).
Best WM device, not.
Nobody warned this guy about keyboard, screen display loss and cracking? Wow.
Ok, the X1 may be old but drsk said he didn't want to spend too much money. So people recommending an iphone or newer android devices will not help him because those are (more)expensive.
I think the X1 works quite well for its age. But i must say you have tweak it a lot to get it exactly to you likings but it is worth. I have a lot of friends with newer phones and I haven't often seen them do things the x1 can't. It only does it a little slower or has less eyecandy.
In fact there are still a lot of things you can do with an Xperia X1 that you cannot with Android and especially with the Iphone. And the best: You don't have to root, jailbreak or whatever to do whatever you please with your Xperia X1. So I stay with my recommendation. If you can get it for a good price don't hesitate.
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Ok, the X1 may be old but drsk said he didn't want to spend too much money. So people recommending an iphone or newer android devices will not help him because those are (more)expensive.
I think the X1 works quite well for its age. But i must say you have tweak it a lot to get it exactly to you likings but it is worth. I have a lot of friends with newer phones and I haven't often seen them do things the x1 can't. It only does it a little slower or has less eyecandy.
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I am very sure there are cheaper phones, WM, android or symbian that can do a job as well as X1.
The reason of your friends not doing things that X1 can't is because they are not power users like you. They probably spend much less time getting the phone up to speed. The time spent flashing, restoring etc can be spend elsewhere, such as actually having fun.
altae said:
In fact there are still a lot of things you can do with an Xperia X1 that you cannot with Android and especially with the Iphone. And the best: You don't have to root, jailbreak or whatever to do whatever you please with your Xperia X1. So I stay with my recommendation. If you can get it for a good price don't hesitate.
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A lot of things? Care to elaborate? I can't think of any. Jailbreaking and rooting is very easy and much more quicker than installing those tweaks just to have the X1 behave like it should. If someone is willing to mess with WM, I am sure he/she can equally have fun with Android and iPhone. Jailbreaking is a breeze compared to HardSPL-ing.
Anyway, I am surprised that X1 is still worth money in threadstarter's country. It is basically worthless over here. Also, who would he go for warranty if he is hit by the various hardware defects with the X1? SE will probably run out of replacement parts by now. And plus the repair fees probably gonna cost more money and time. Simply not worth it IMO. Just get a WM phone with a better track record.
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I am very sure there are cheaper phones, WM, android or symbian that can do a job as well as X1.
The reason of your friends not doing things that X1 can't is because they are not power users like you. They probably spend much less time getting the phone up to speed. The time spent flashing, restoring etc can be spend elsewhere, such as actually having fun.
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Ok, I get your point. But I just want to make this clear, the things you mention like flashing and stuff... I actually do those things for fun. It is not like I am sitting at home slaving over my phone while my friends are playing outside
Guys,
Thanks a lot for all the responses. I just started loving this forum. Am amazed with these responses even when I had not come here for sometime.
My criteria for a new phone was:
1. Should be < $450.
2. Should have good batt. backup.
3. Above average camera and audio (music) quality.
The reasons for not going for Android phones -
1. Good Android phones are expensive approx. $450+ which is not in my budget.
2. Most Android phones available today do not have Front Facing camera (except Galaxy S).
3G has just started entering the market and one of the main feature is video calling. Without FF camera, this feature will be useless. Now, I do know that I may (ok .. honestly "will") not use this feature in near future (say 6 months to a year). But, IF I desire to use that feature, then at that time I will have to buy a new phone just for this purpose. I normally do not change phones unless the current phone stops working or is too outdated. (My last phone Samsung D600 lasted 4 years before I lost it).
Also, Symbian phones had this peculiar feature of limiting the call history to 30 days! I just hated that limit. I can understand if they limit the number of history entries, but certainly NOT the time limit. Ofcourse, I could compromise on this if other criteria are met.
I had to leave out Samsung budget phones due to the reason that they give many features, but their quality is "middle of the road" (mainly camera and audio). The good ones were out of my budget.
After searching a lot I could narrow down to 2 choices SE Hazel (non-smartphone) and X1 (smartphone).
X1 attracted me based on the specifications - mainly the batt. backup which not many smart phones matched (atleast on paper - dunno the real life scenario) and is available in the range of $330.
it's your money...
seriously: don't get the x1. you'd have a lot of work before you to get it running. can't believe you missed all the threads about miserable build-quality (hw-keyboard, cracks, flex-cable). might i suggest htc's touch pro2? same hardware, has hw-keyboard, but you get official winmo 6.5 and an up-to-date system (htc sense, drivers), last firmware-update was about 4 months ago (x1: march 2009!). it has all you want (front-camera). only drawback is that it needs an adapter for headphones - believe me, it's worth it. price is $299,99 on amazon.com, so well inside your range.
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while the x1-battery looks good on paper, it loses capacity rather quicky. and most custom-roms for x1 are high on consumption anyway (yes, you'll flash custom-roms. no, you won't be satisfied with stock-rom).
I do not regret buying my X1 but there are lots of other phones available now that far surpass X1 in computing power and features.

Hello!

My first smartphone was an HTC 8X in green, still have the phone and miss Windows Phone's smooth performing OS.
My first dive into Xperia was with the Z3 Compact. I almost bought the Z1C but decided to go the with Z3C because it was new. I loved the idea of a smaller phone with killer performance and camera. We then got a Z3 Tablet Compact. I tried the One+2 at one point and while I loved the blue buttons at the bottom it was far too large and got too warm. My wife then got a XA1 and I got a XZ1. I was shopping around for different manufacturers because I felt like Sony could have done better with the build quality of my Z3C and XZ1 and with the Xperia 1 it seemed like they were also ditching the headphone jack which I'm not ready to get rid of. At the last minute though I decided to get the Xperia 1 ii and I'm honestly glad I did. The build quality is impressive so far. I love that they have stuck with the flat slate style for most of their phones. It is also impressive that they have pushed to keep the stereo speakers, headphone jack, and lack of any notches in the screen.
I keep my phones for a while, it will be interesting to see what their models look like in 3-5 years, especially since they seem to be having a fairly decent 2021. I wonder if many LG customers switched to Xperia after LG exited the market earlier this year.
Cheers!
The0riginal said:
My first smartphone was an HTC 8X in green, still have the phone and miss Windows Phone's smooth performing OS.
My first dive into Xperia was with the Z3 Compact. I almost bought the Z1C but decided to go the with Z3C because it was new. I loved the idea of a smaller phone with killer performance and camera. We then got a Z3 Tablet Compact. I tried the One+2 at one point and while I loved the blue buttons at the bottom it was far too large and got too warm. My wife then got a XA1 and I got a XZ1. I was shopping around for different manufacturers because I felt like Sony could have done better with the build quality of my Z3C and XZ1 and with the Xperia 1 it seemed like they were also ditching the headphone jack which I'm not ready to get rid of. At the last minute though I decided to get the Xperia 1 ii and I'm honestly glad I did. The build quality is impressive so far. I love that they have stuck with the flat slate style for most of their phones. It is also impressive that they have pushed to keep the stereo speakers, headphone jack, and lack of any notches in the screen.
I keep my phones for a while, it will be interesting to see what their models look like in 3-5 years, especially since they seem to be having a fairly decent 2021. I wonder if many LG customers switched to Xperia after LG exited the market earlier this year.
Cheers!
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