Most useful task killer app? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Pretty self explanatory title.
If one were looking for the best of the task killer type apps, who's the best? This includes the paid apps (because a buck or two really isn't "paid" in my opinion).
BTW, I hate the search feature of the market. Google (the king of searching) makes a kick ass OS and then completely fails to remember to put their search engine into the market. WTF?

i have used advanced task manager for a few months and it works great for me. though i haven't tried any of the other ones such as task killer, so you might want to wait until you see what someone who has used more has to say.

IMO TasKiller works great. Unless you need to ignore more than 2 apps not to close the free version does everything for you. I personally prefer TasKiller over Advanced Task Manager since it seems lighter to me. My vote is for the free version of TasKiller

I love the task killer in dxTop - plus you get a great launcher.

I've tried TasKiller, Advanced Task Killer and TaskPanel. I'm not impressed by any of them, primarily in that none of them come up with the same list of apps running in the background. I've run one after another (without actually killing any tasks) and have not seen the same list in each one.

Shouldn't this be in the application forum?

Why? It's a question that needs an answer hence Q&A.

dkb218 said:
Why? It's a question that needs an answer hence Q&A.
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Thats what I figured.

Gilliland12 said:
BTW, I hate the search feature of the market. Google (the king of searching) makes a kick ass OS and then completely fails to remember to put their search engine into the market. WTF?
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I completely agree; the market search is tedious. I found androlib.com, and so I search and browse there and use barcode scanner to pick up the QR Code on the phone. You can also subscribe to RSS feeds to see the new stuff as it's being posted.

I'm using ATK and have noticed a big difference in my battery life span. However I am having a problem with apps launching by themselves. Every bootup I check ATK and see at least a dozen apps running so I close them; but even if I don't use any apps I check the list again hours later and see many apps running again by themselves. WTF is going on with my system? My battery just died in 1 hour because I didn't use ATK to close the auto launched apps. Anyone have any idea of what could be the problem here?
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I use advance task killer seem to work well for me

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Any app to auto kill on exit?

Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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It would be nice to have, say, long press back key to kill the current app.
Big_O said:
Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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You obviously didn't search for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
You DON'T need to intervene with N1 memory management, since you don't know how it works. You assume wrong. And most bad gossips are created by people wrongly assuming something, thinking they know something while they actually don't.
My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
Exactly, the nexus has no memory management issues. It is just your misunderstanding of how Android works. Leave your tasks alone.
If you have one or two particular apps that are bad citizens and should be shutting down in the background but don't... you can use "1Kill" from the market to create a home screen shortcut that kills that specific app when you press it.
Fring used to be a bad citizen - it would lock my wifi on even when I didn't want to be using it, and had no exit feature. So I'd always have to kill it after finishing up with it. Now it does have a proper exit, thankfully.
Jack_R1 said:
My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
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Ditto!
1 app running or 50 apps running they all still run the same.
I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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I think you have the memory management issues.
Before anyone gets tarred and feathered, that explains why many users on unrooted stock roms ha e frequent touchscreen lockups, hesitation and freezes. Guess theres a reason why the market has so many task killers. Maybe the devs should read this thread also lol. Instead of flaming, positive feedback is appreciated. I did search, but its a bit time consuming sifting through 5000 posts. Maybe you guys o rooted phones have no lockups, but google shows an azzload of people with similar issues.
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1) You've been given some answers in the thread, if you cared to look.
2) App that loses focus goes to background. That's the way OS is built. If you want apps to be killed on losing focus, get iOS 3 to run on your device. Seriously, what kind of answer would you expect, if you want to turn multitasking OS into non-multitasking?
3) The market has task killers because they can be written for multitasking OS, and because they help dealing with bad apps. Not for any other reason.
4) The OS loads some of your most used tasks when it runs, even if you don't know about it. Just loads in the memory, and allocates no CPU time. If you leave your phone unattended, your free memory goes down by itself. Why? Because free memory is wasted memory. You can check the "EMPTY" processes in Astro, for example.
5) The best task killer is careful selection of your apps. You see hangups? Find out the app that's doing it and remove it, or kill it specifically after running if it's necessary.
6) Task killers are a good source of lockups and freezes too, did you know? I guess you didn't read that thread...
All this meant to say: instead of looking for a way to cripple your OS, learn to select your apps, and don't solve issues that you don't have.
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I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Yeah, I think Apple needs to tweak their multi-tasking still. I've played with my gf's iPhone a bit this week, and it's a little annoying how now you have to explicitly quit every app. For example, with the Settings app if I go to change a preference quickly then return to home Settings app is still in the running apps list. I think little utilities like that should be able to quit themselves automatically.
I know the app isn't wasting memory or CPU down there, but I just don't see why you would want it cluttering up your app switcher forever.
Oh well, it's progress though. At least now you don't have to quit everything else you're doing to listen to Pandora
well android does the same thing. if you go into the settings menu, then hit home button, the settings is still running in the background. of course andoird will kill it later when it needs to.

Apps automatically starting up, by themselves

Hello all,
I recently bought my N1 about 4 days ago. So far its been great. Easily one of the best phones I've ever owned. However, I am having this problem where apps in android seem to startup by themselves. I'm using Advanced Task killer to kill em but ill kill them and then like a minute later they're back up and running without me starting them. Its quite annoying as my battery is taking a beating from it having to close and open apps and repeat. The biggest offenders of this are the voice apps such as voice search, voice dialer, Google voice (which isn't even setup), and the amazon mp3 store. A few third party apps I downloaded tend to do this as well.
Have any of you guys experienced this? Is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance! XD
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decoyjoe said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my N1 about 4 days ago. So far its been great. Easily one of the best phones I've ever owned. However, I am having this problem where apps in android seem to startup by themselves. I'm using Advanced Task killer to kill em but ill kill them and then like a minute later they're back up and running without me starting them. Its quite annoying as my battery is taking a beating from it having to close and open apps and repeat. The biggest offenders of this are the voice apps such as voice search, voice dialer, Google voice (which isn't even setup), and the amazon mp3 store. A few third party apps I downloaded tend to do this as well.
Have any of you guys experienced this? Is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance! XD
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Do not worry about app running in the background, what you are probably seeing is the list of what was run, Android is verry good at managing memory, in fact I do not even use a task manager and I am fine with it.
Well that's the thing. Some of these apps that startup I have never run such as the mp3 store. So I close it and I get an additional 10megs of memory. But then it just starts back up. So I don't know how to stop it all together.
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There are apps that automatically run in the background but don't effect performance like Google voice voice dialer etc..what I did was add them to the ignore list. Trust me those apps are always running no matter how many times you close them
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Like has already been said, stop worrying about it. Those apps are NOT stealing memory, they're NOT using battery.
Free memory does not benefit you. Android will automatically load apps in to memory so that they are available to switch to fast as possible.
You should not kill apps unless they are bisbehaving. Killing off apps forces Android to load them back into memory if its algorithm thinks you are likely to use it. The act of loading data into memory uses power and Android tries hard to avoid it.
I was obsessed with managing my memory and running apps when I bought my nexus one. Everyone at that time suggested task killers so I got one of those. I had crappy performance with random sluggishness. I figured I just needed to kill off more apps. Eventually I read an article from an Android dev explaining this stuff and I backed off and have had a much better experience since.
I wish Google was more vocal on this subject. Everyone thinking auto task killing is a necessity on Android really gives it a black eye.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712352
Jack_R1 said:
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2) App that loses focus goes to background. That's the way OS is built. If you want apps to be killed on losing focus, get iOS 3 to run on your device.
3) The market has task killers because they can be written for multitasking OS, and because they help dealing with bad apps. Not for any other reason.
4) The OS loads some of your most used tasks when it runs, even if you don't know about it. Just loads in the memory, and allocates no CPU time. If you leave your phone unattended, your free memory goes down by itself. Why? Because free memory is wasted memory. You can check the "EMPTY" processes in Astro, for example.
5) The best task killer is careful selection of your apps. You see hangups? Find out the app that's doing it and remove it, or kill it specifically after running if it's necessary.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
Remove your task killer (or, if you insist, just clear the auto-kill list), erase all you think you know about memory management - because you don't know - and stop worrying.

why are apps running when i dont open them? memory leak also..

could be a noob question
every once in a while i will go into my advance task killer and see a bunch of apps running that i didnt manually open. i just checked my phone to see sprint nav, mp3 store, droid locator, internet, ringdroid, etc.. it also takes my phone from 71m free to about 35-40m. ill kill the apps, and they will be open again without me touching the phone. am i stupid, or is there actually a problem?
Okay bc those stock apps are coded to run at startup, and open themselfs for ease-of-access, this is normal. If you want to stop that, add them to autokill, and use a startup manager (market) to remove them from the start up screen.
For the mem issues, try disabling the GPS lovation services, that eats up battery life AND mem, same with internet.
If you really want your phone to fly, don't use a task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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If you really want your phone to fly, don't use a task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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In theory this is true but in reality it couldn't be more misleading. Yes a task killer, especially one that is always running and using up resources itself is probably less than optimal in an Android environment, however they are sometimes necessary because things do not always work as they are supposed to. If you have root it is better to just use AutoKiller as it doesn't just kill programs but helps the OS by allowing you to set the limits for when the OS should start closing things. It also allows you to manually kill anything not working right.
Of course this is just my opinion, but I have tried it both ways on 3 different Android phones and my results were the same on all.
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however they are sometimes necessary because things do not always work as they are supposed to.
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There's a section at the bottom that goes over this.
It's really more of an explanation that "Having free RAM will make my phone faster" will not make your phone faster.

Must have applications?

Hello,
I have my new HTC Desire HD for a week now, this is the first time that I am using the Android system. There are lots of Applications in the App Market.
But what is a MUST HAVE application? I have Angry birds, Whatsapp, Pingchat, Nova, Barcode scanner.
But now I am stuck and I don't know any app's I could have, I don't know where to search in the market to be honest there are to many app's.
Thanks already for you're help and sorry for my bad English.
Hi,
For backups MyBackup Pro is a must have ; Check it out on the market, use it for free for one month, then get it; at 4,99$, that's a small price to easily backup your data, your apps or both.
There is My Phone Explorer which backs up and syncs and is free
http://www.fjsoft.at/en/
and the My Phone Explorer Client app for the DHD
http://www.appbrain.com/app/myphoneexplorer-client/com.fjsoft.myphoneexplorer.client#
Have a look at the Android market at the top listed ones in the Free section most are must haves
Just some I rate highly
Angry birds
xda app
barcode scanner
Chrome to Phone
AppBrain Market
Engadget
Cnet News
GDocs
Google Translate
Goggles
Layer
Google Sky Map
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But now I am stuck and I don't know any app's I could have
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There are so many apps on the market that first of all you need to know what sort of apps you want ?
Do you want games, communication apps or what ?
A lot of very good apps are free or have free trial versions so try downloading them and see if they are what you would like to use, you can always delete them again if the arent.
Must have for me...
Shazam
Soundhoud
Angry Birds
Angry Birds seasons
Gun Bros
Sygic Aura
Gps status
Google goggles
XDA App
Engadget
IMDB
Tweet Deck
Appremover
Apptosd
Poweramp
Astro
Mybackup pro
Most of the games are changing every week or so therefore I'm not typing them here
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Winamp
XDA Forum app
GPS Status
Elixir
Screen Filter
Spare Parts
Gmote
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Not a complete list of everything I have but here's what I would say are my essential apps that I always install on fresh ROM.
Titanium Backup - A must for anyone who swaps ROMs often.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/titanium-backup-★-root/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
SMS Popup - Gives a nice pop-up when you receive a SMS. Great customizable notifications too.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-popup/net.everythingandroid.smspopup
Root Explorer - To delete blotware and change bootanims etc.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/root-explorer-(file-manager)/com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer
GPS Status - To get the latest A-GPS data.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-status-toolbox/com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
PicSay Pro - Like a mini Photoshop in your pocket.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/picsay-pro-photo-editor/com.shinycore.picsaypro
Apps Organizer - Put shortcuts in pop-up style boxes to save space on homescreens.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/apps-organizer/com.google.code.appsorganizer
BatteryLife - Just because it's a nice looking battery widget.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/batterylife/com.curvefish.batterylife
BetterCut - Create your own shortcuts with custom icons.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/bettercut/com.betterandroid.bettercut
Dropbox - Great for sharing files between PCs and mobile devices.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/dropbox/com.dropbox.android
ES File Explorer - The best file explorer.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/es-file-explorer/com.estrongs.android.pop
Last.fm - Streaming music. I've had a Last.fm account for years so this is a must.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/last-fm/fm.last.android
My Tracks - Great to track your route / speed / distace / time etc when walking / cycling etc.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/my-tracks/com.google.android.maps.mytracks
SMS Unread Count - Shows number of unread SMS, Gmail, calls etc
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-unread-count/com.kanokgems.smswidget
Pkt Auctions - Because the official eBay app is crap!
http://www.appbrain.com/app/pkt-auctions-ebay/com.bonfiremedia.android_ebay
Uninstaller - A quick and easy way to remove apps
http://www.appbrain.com/app/uninstaller/com.rhythm.hexise.uninst
Appbrain - Works well in conjuction with the website. Send apps to your phone etc.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/appbrain-app-market/com.appspot.swisscodemonkeys.apps
Thanks everybody. There are some great app's in here ;D
You might find a few examples in my sig.
I mostly use Dolphin Browser HD/Mini, Math Alarm Clock, Quick Settings, Beautiful Widgets, SystemPanel, JetFlicks!, DI Radio (get it from www.di.fm/apps), Phonalyzr, 3G watchdog, RealCalc, CallMeter, Android System Info, ADW Launcher EX, DropBox, CurrentWidget, Titanium Backup Pro, MyBackup Pro, SMS Backup+, PowerAmp, RealPlayer (lets you download stuff streamed from eg JetFlicks! to watch offline), Scan2PDF Mobile, RootExplorer, SetCPU, Startup Auditor, TrueCaller Pro, XDA app and WiFi File Explorer, PhotoVault and Tasker.
The list is not prioritized.
That should keep you entertained for a while
i dnt want to sound like pirate . but how can i get cracked apps .. because i am medical student .. and no way in condition of paying 200+$ for medical apps ...
sorry for developer .. but i am helpless.
KILLERS
Youre Going to need task killer.
Memory Booster is a good app to free RAM
I hope you are not trolling. Task killers are the worst thing you can do your phone, trust me. You can google it if you want. Do not use task killers!
bidurmarasini said:
i dnt want to sound like pirate . but how can i get cracked apps .. because i am medical student .. and no way in condition of paying 200+$ for medical apps ...
sorry for developer .. but i am helpless.
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Seriously your asking that here? Your likely to get yourself hung. I understand buying loads of app's can get expensive but if you want people to continue making them then pay for them, never ask for warez.
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jkoljo said:
I hope you are not trolling. Task killers are the worst thing you can do your phone, trust me. You can google it if you want. Do not use task killers!
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Hehe yeah my friend already told that ^^ Task killers are ruining the operation script of the phone if you use it to much, at least he told me that.
:O
Didnt Know That :O
Why/how those are bad to the phone??
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Didnt Know That :O
Why/how those are bad to the phone??
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Inactive apps sit idle in memory and don't use cpu. Kill them and you use more cpu when you start them again than just leaving them. Some apps need to be running all the time by their nature. Kill them and they just use more cpu restarting. So you see task killers use extra battery but the makers claim they save battery.
But I have no free memory you say? Lucky for you the Android os is smart. If an active app asks for more memory, the os will reallocate memory from the idle tasks and give it to the active one.
Actually free memory is a bad thing. Memory uses battery regardless of weather it has data in it or not. Surely it's better then to fill the memory to speed loading of apps than to waste it by leaving it empty.
Someone swyped my idea.
I understand that the 'Auto Memory Manager' app is supposed to be different from task killers though and quite effective? So you may want to look at that.
Nice
Thats good to know. Thanks!
jkoljo said:
I hope you are not trolling. Task killers are the worst thing you can do your phone, trust me. You can google it if you want. Do not use task killers!
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Agreed, you don't need a Task killer on Android.

Xoom task killer by adam Lange

I no most people think that you don't need a task killer on the xoom but I have to disagree my tab lags sometimes when I have to much open and so far with this task killer I have not nearly had any lag. There is only one thing I do not like about it. I wish you could kill the task killer app after your done killing the other apps but when you try to kill it all that happens is you stay in the app. It is made just for the xoom so it is a 3.0 app and it only cost 99 cents and has no ads and the dev says he will update it.
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Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.
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Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.
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I used it on xoom before it is better in ways but u can't close everything in it I doesn't let u close setting running services etc.. It does work well but I wanna b able to close everything plus if u do leave them open the xoom one is much smaller file
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
ZanshinG1 said:
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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Well put some people just don't understand
I had a big post about this a while back, people still dont get it. When my Girlfriend bought her Epic the guy at sprint put ATK on it. I removed it as soon as she showed me.
my sister in-law has the LG Ally and it sucks ass and shes been having issues with it and the people at verizon tell her she just needs to use her task killer more
ZanshinG1 said:
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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+1
If you need to close an app because it hangs, use the built in task killer.
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System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.
mobius999 said:
System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.
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Yea system panel is good I love how it shows you what's actually killing the battery unlike the idiots using atk thinkingbtheyre saving battery

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