I`ve tried some 6.5 roms and noticed that 2d performance was low (comparing to 6.1 roms). As far as I know - the most smooth 2d is accured only whith ddi 3.55 (which is in last official 6.1), which not comportable with superrem (correct me if I wrong).
So - is the any 6.5 rom for kaiser with this drivers ?
obaz said:
I`ve tried some 6.5 roms and noticed that 2d performance was low (comparing to 6.1 roms). As far as I know - the most smooth 2d is accured only whith ddi 3.55 (which is in last official 6.1), which not comportable with superrem (correct me if I wrong).
So - is the any 6.5 rom for kaiser with this drivers ?
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if you want to have 101mb must have ddi 3.14
you have right ddi 3.55 and 3.34(HTC) is the latest and work faster on wm6.1 with 82mb ram
but in wm6.5 3.55 and 3.34 work slower than 3.14(this one work very fast only in wm6.5)..
and if you have 3.14 why you don't have also 101
and something else.. this 3.14 is not a simple 3.14 but patched for better resort on wm6.5
i have test all the combo.. i'm the only one in wm6.1 who goes back to 82mb for this reason but in wm6,5 the 3.14 works much better
thanks for info.
But looks like 6.1 still provide more speed in 2d than 6.5. am I right ?
BTW, can hardspl somehow affect 2d perfomance ?
obaz said:
thanks for info.
But looks like 6.1 still provide more speed in 2d than 6.5. am I right ?
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i take the same resort in video.. so i think is same now.. (the speed on 2d)
but the wm6,5 is faster than wm6.1 in many things..
for hslp i don't think have something to do with 2d graphics
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i take the same resort in video.. so i think is same now.. (the speed on 2d)
but the wm6,5 is faster than wm6.1 in many things..
for hslp i don't think have something to do with 2d graphics
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thanks again.
I wonder - if the any way to speed up gapi in kaiser with 6.5.
the 2D performance on the Kaiser is based on the kernel and the DDI.dll it haves a role,i'm trying to find how to "boost" the Wm 6.5
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Hy well i started this thread becouse i recently upgraded from an elf to a diamond... and now i'm not so sure i did a good thing... besides the fact that tf3d its better looking its running worse than the old manila 2d, wich was way way smoother on my elf. thing is i had so few ram on the elf i always runed out of memory when using opera mobile...but on diamond with so much ram and cpu speed available i can tell the difference in opera mobile but thats all... becouse the tf3d it's crap (in my opinion)
So i ask here is there any other rom wich i can use who might not have tf3d or maybe some cube like old elf, or maybe some other gui wich looks preaty nice? or maybe a clean rom and use another gui wich works on vga? i did a lot of search and i only found out SPB wich aint free.
ps i have read people saying that they have theyir diamonds at 30-35% memory afther soft reset, well mine its always around 50% and afther one day of using it (normal usage dialing, calling, a bit of teeter and some web browsing) i reach 90% still i did the tweak with opera preload in registry... but its crap i have to reset it all day at least once... how is this posible ? i mean elf had 64 ram and i still could play with 15 ram from the 64, diamond has 192 and i can play with only of them ? so where are the rest? what is using those 160mb of ram ? was elf using other version of windows mobile (as i remember it was 6.1 same like the one on diamond) is tf3d so much memory hungry ?
thanks hope u understand my english and hope someone can enlight me a bit, or direct me to some links where i can read about this (problem) besides the search, cose (i might be dumb) i canot find anithing relevant...
I'm going to take a stab, and say it might be related to your rom (carrier loaded rom especially).
I bought the US 3g unlocked Diamond (no carrier)..and I was happy with it (faster then my old hermes).
I'm now using Dutty's latest rom..and it is very smooth.
Have you tried turning off touchflo, and sticking with the manila 2d UI?
I have the CT's v 6.4 HD Lite ROM which includes TouchFLO 3D and the speed is good. Highly recommended.
As for soft reset, I normally switch off the phone at the end of the day. That is same as soft reset and I switch it back on next morning, I think.
well as far as i know manila 2d ui aint for VGA... or at least i couldn't find anything to work on 600x480...
TF2D for VGA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
I agree with you, TF3D is absolute crap. The speed doesn't bother me so much, it's just the memory that is used up for no good purpose, given that TF3D has no genuine benefit whatsoever. I can't think of a single feature that works properly or usefully, compared to ordinary WM apps and today plugins.
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I think the Diamond's a great little phone - attractive and good pocket size - and the battery life isn't too much of a problem. However, given how slow the Diamond is at graphics and file system operations, it doesn't need to be burdened by a white elephant like TF3D.
SPB Mobile Shell is very popular but I went the tradional route of using SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Suite and some other plugins. DevState 1.5 works great as a Today screen task manager.
Is there a way to improve the graphics on topaz. After upgrading to Stock WM 6.5 my TF3D is much slower and graphics on other pages are also slower. is any one else having this issue? If anyone has a fix to this please let US know.
If a cooked ROM is not an option, search for registry settings to improve performance. They're all over the internet
wm6.5 sucks. Nothing interesting. CE home - Sucks
wm6.1 is much faster. tweaks can't do wm6.5 fast as wm6.1
I patch me qtek s110 and diamond 2 to wm6.5 and then rollback to wm6.1
of cause new sense is good! but how can I install it on wm6.1 rom?
For faster graphics try 'GFXBOOST'
i hear that GFXBOOST actually slows down graphic speeds
I started this thread because I see much 6.5 ROMS right now. Some of you (atleast me) wanting a 6.1 ROM. You can also have a ROM with LEO or TF3D.
Discuss here and maybe the ROM developers can make it easier.
Greetz,
Win mo 6.5 with Rhodium manila 2.1
i really like WM 6.5.3 one with TF3D (the new one from Rhodium)...
xperia with windows mobile 6.5, without touchflo. fast&stable !
6.1 is pretty fast, but Titanium has everything I need, so 6.5 it is.
another useless thread lol ... you can cook any rom you like by yourself and you can't force chef to cook the rom they do not want!
deepthroat said:
another useless thread lol ... you can cook any rom you like by yourself and you can't force chef to cook the rom they do not want!
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You got a point there, but developers can see which ROM the X1 users would prefer.
For me: WMobile 6.1 + TF3D
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You got a point there, but developers can see which ROM the X1 users would prefer.
For me: WMobile 6.1 + TF3D
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some chefs cook rom from their own personal taste and just shares it to people
6.1
vietdoan20062006
6.1
6.5 is cool, but 6.1 is definitely faster on X1 (regardless of whether you use TF3D or no), so ... 6.1
Switched back to stock 6.1 because this is the fastest ROM.
Currently WM6.1 with SPB mobileshell. Superfast is the only reason. Like 6.5 more tho, but havnt found any good cook yet. All 6.5 cooks is buggy, hangs, SOD etc. etc..
Clean 6.5 cook with _SPEED_ would be nice, then I can install whatever I want
Maybe this thread could be both discussion of wich ver. to use, show current, help etc.?
See attached for my xperia. MrRusch NUTS 6.1 rom with SPB mobile shell.
Slow WM6.5
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Switched back to stock 6.1 because this is the fastest ROM.
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I have tried several WM6.5 ROMs like Christians Clean, X1.5, Infinite, Pure, Energy, 826X...
They are all quite fast, but compared to the stock ROM the UI is VERY SLOW!!!
My HTC Wizard with a 200 MHz CPU and [ROM][WM6.5.x][6.5.1.7 - 23085][6.5.0.2 - 21869][Clean] - MSD Series >> 4-Nov-2009 has a much faster responding UI.
WHY??? The X1 has a 528 MHZ CPU!
Is it caused by the high resolution display of the X1 with a 4 X higher resolution?
Or does all WM6.5 ROMs use other (slower) system drivers instead of the 6.1 stock rom ones?
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Currently WM6.1 with SPB mobileshell. Superfast is the only reason. Like 6.5 more tho, but havnt found any good cook yet. All 6.5 cooks is buggy, hangs, SOD etc. etc..
Clean 6.5 cook with _SPEED_ would be nice, then I can install whatever I want
Maybe this thread could be both discussion of wich ver. to use, show current, help etc.?
See attached for my xperia. MrRusch NUTS 6.1 rom with SPB mobile shell.
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hi! there is mr rusch with touch flo3d or without touchflo3d? would mobile spb shell replace the flipping clock and the wheater animation?
Speed difference between WM6.1 and WM6.5
LLower said:
I have tried several WM6.5 ROMs like Christians Clean, X1.5, Infinite, Pure, Energy, 826X...
They are all quite fast, but compared to the stock ROM the UI is VERY SLOW!!!
My HTC Wizard with a 200 MHz CPU and [ROM][WM6.5.x][6.5.1.7 - 23085][6.5.0.2 - 21869][Clean] - MSD Series >> 4-Nov-2009 has a much faster responding UI.
WHY??? The X1 has a 528 MHZ CPU!
Is it caused by the high resolution display of the X1 with a 4 X higher resolution?
Or does all WM6.5 ROMs use other (slower) system drivers instead of the 6.1 stock rom ones?
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Has nobody an explanation for this speed difference between stock WM6.1 and cooked WM6.5?
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hi! there is mr rusch with touch flo3d or without touchflo3d? would mobile spb shell replace the flipping clock and the wheater animation?
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According to your Signature you are also running Nuts so you should know?
Well, im not using tochflo at all, disabled everything as "Today" and running SPB on top of that.
I discovered that stability and speed is most important for me. So, WM 6.1. I also install Mobile Shell for fingerfriendly UI and FingerSuite.v1.12rc8 for fingerfriendly menu's. TF3D is only an eyecandy for me. Mobile Shell is better for me, because it is faster and customizable. I install some fingerfriendly software and Xperia is ready to use.
I go for coolness and usefullness rather than speed. I do not want to go back to WM6.1 ever again... I recently had a customer with a 6.1 ROM and OMG, it's so old and hard to use/configure compared to 6.5.5
I kept trying WM 6.5 over and over but.. It's just too slow!
Switched back to PCTech4u, best WM 6.1 rom out there.
You're wrong, THIS is the best WinMo 6.1 ROM.
has anyone cooked Manila 2.5 into a kaiser rom? and if not is it because its impossible?
No, only Manila 2D works on QVGA resolution screens.
You need > VGA to run Manila 3D which includes 2.5.
Ta
Dave
At one point we did have TouchFlo 3D running on the Kaiser but it had some sleep issues and was rather slow as I recall...
Definitely Manilla 2D is best suited to these devices.
Dear HTC hd touch users.
As the title says what ROM are you guys using and why are you using it?
Maybe u can say some good and bad stuffs with that ROM. Also which ROM are you recommending and why are u recommending it?
Thanks for answer
Kind Regards
I vote for 3:
- Original HTC ROM. It works, it's light. Of course no Manilla 2.5, Opera is only 9.5, Office Mobile is old version. But it works pretty fine.
- Topix 3.5 WM6.1 Manila 2.1. This is light and fast and everything works fine. It's missing lastest Office and Opera tough.
- millski rom[21897]
I'm running this one now. It's not heavy for a WM 6.5 ROM. Has all the basics and no extra unneeded programs. It feels slower than WM 6.1 of course, but it's usable. Has Office 2010 and Opera 10 integrated. All WM 6.1 programs I usually install work here (in other WM 6.5 builds you can find incompatibilities)
Thanks for the answer!
I thought that updating ur ROM from 6.1 to 6.5 would make ur phone faster and more stabile but u are saying that it feels slower? explain please'
Thanks in advance!
WM 6.5 is heavier than WM 6.1. The only thing I saw going faster is installing some programs. Manilla 2.5 is heavier than Manilla 2.1. Manilla 2.5 with all tabs is heavier than it with footprints, facebook or e-reader tabs removed.
You must think of that when choosing a ROM.
A WM 6.1 ROM has more much RAM free than a 6.5 (130 MB vs 90 MB for example). This is important if you launch applications like Opera 10. Touch HD2, with 1 GHz snapdragon and 512 MB od RAM, can handle WM 6.5 better. Touch HD is not designed for WM 6.5.
If Kwbr or someone else decides to update the WM 6.1 ROM with IE6, Office 2010 and Opera 10, I'm flashing that. Right now you can use a light WM 6.5 (48% RAM used on boot).
I just love Energy ROM...they are the best in term of full pack features (all the latest) and if you are in for a beauty (eye candy) stuff. Currently I am using the Energy ROM 23554 with GTX theme (truly AWESOME!)
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WM 6.5 is heavier than WM 6.1. The only thing I saw going faster is installing some programs. Manilla 2.5 is heavier than Manilla 2.1. Manilla 2.5 with all tabs is heavier than it with footprints, facebook or e-reader tabs removed.
You must think of that when choosing a ROM.
A WM 6.1 ROM has more much RAM free than a 6.5 (130 MB vs 90 MB for example). This is important if you launch applications like Opera 10. Touch HD2, with 1 GHz snapdragon and 512 MB od RAM, can handle WM 6.5 better. Touch HD is not designed for WM 6.5.
If Kwbr or someone else decides to update the WM 6.1 ROM with IE6, Office 2010 and Opera 10, I'm flashing that. Right now you can use a light WM 6.5 (48% RAM used on boot).
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I would recommend Cloudy 1.6 or Topix 3.5.10, both wm6.5 roms, close to stock, low ram useage, ive had no problems with either of these roms.
Don't use wm 6.5, its stable when you don't install apps but If you install your apps, your hd will run slowy and unstable. I prefer kwbr 3.1.2 its is wm6.5 with manilia SENSE 2.1, I updated microsoft office to 2010 and opera to 10 final. All my apps are intalled, about 60 apps and it stil runs smooth, stable and fast. I've tried all the recent roms, and I always flash back to kwbr 3.1.2!! KWBR 3.5 wm6.1 sense 2.1 is in my opinion not beter than 3.1.2
If the point of this thread is to find out which roms people use & why so you can decide which to try.....my best advice would be to try a few yourself. You're never going to know which build is for you unless you try it.
Yes wm6.1 is quicker than wm6.5, but you may prefer the latest builds in wm6.5 over wm6.1
Its a matter of personal taste and everyone has his/her own likes & dislikes
Threads similar to this have been opened countless times before and closed for the very reason that its opinionated which creates endless long threads as each user will have a different opinion
For the same reasons I am closing this thread