Delay with bluetooth when I call - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello
I just changed my TYTN II for a sony xperia. I love the features of this phone.
I paired it with my Pioneer avic F90Bt. With the TYTN it was working perfectly.
Now with the xperia, when I receive calls everything works fine (I even did the tweak to solve the hang up problem).
However, when I call (using the phone of the Avic) there is a big delay. I never hear the phone rings(must be 15 seconds at least) before I hear the person.
I does only that in bluetooth. It's like if the phone doesn't sense noise, I see dialing on the phone even if it is connected. After the 15 seconds, it shows connected and then I hear the other person.
I search in this forum and with google and did not find anything related to placing calls, only to problems receiving calls.
It is the xperia from rogers with the R3 update already done.
Greetings
Labgate

Hello again
just to give an update, it seems the problem is related to the detection of sound.
When someone speaks loud, then it switch, but the ringing sound and a small "hello" don't do the job.
I will continue to investigate. I hope someone will be able to give me some hints.
Greetings
Labgate

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kaiser and parrot ck3100 car kit - please help me

hello. I can hear only the calls (phone) on my ck3100 (bluetooth). I need to hear also the tomtom voice and music. Please somebody help me! thank you very much.
This will help you ...
best wishes
TQM
clkuv said:
hello. I can hear only the calls (phone) on my ck3100 (bluetooth). I need to hear also the tomtom voice and music. Please somebody help me! thank you very much.
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Hi CLKuv, If that is your only problem you are doing well! There are a lot of people, myself included, that just cannot get the CK3100 (or other Parrots) working with the TyTN II at all. In brief (since I have posted all my troubles elsewhere on this Kaiser forum), when I try to dial someone, it very frequently just issues two-tone bleeps and sometimes shows an icon of a musical note with a line through it. Sometimes there is complete silence when you go to dial. The people on other end get their phone ringing but hear nothing when they pick up, nor do I. Also, when they try to phone me, CK3100 rings but when I try to answer, silence in both directions again! Tried lots of different solutions (Jetware, Parrot Firmware Update, etc.) but no luck. Lobbying Parrot & T-Mobile hard!.
Hi
I've got an CK3400GPS and i must say that i've got no problems al all.
At the moment i've got a MDA vario III but also with other HTC devices the carkit works fine,
I'm gonna test this program so i can see if this is usefull for me.
Thanx
horatiog said:
Hi CLKuv, If that is your only problem you are doing well! There are a lot of people, myself included, that just cannot get the CK3100 (or other Parrots) working with the TyTN II at all. In brief (since I have posted all my troubles elsewhere on this Kaiser forum), when I try to dial someone, it very frequently just issues two-tone bleeps and sometimes shows an icon of a musical note with a line through it. Sometimes there is complete silence when you go to dial. The people on other end get their phone ringing but hear nothing when they pick up, nor do I. Also, when they try to phone me, CK3100 rings but when I try to answer, silence in both directions again! Tried lots of different solutions (Jetware, Parrot Firmware Update, etc.) but no luck. Lobbying Parrot & T-Mobile hard!.
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I've that musical note, too. I've also had my radio go mute for no reason, which requires a soft reset of the vehicle (quite inconvenient to say the least). I also recently had an issue where the phone would not let me dial. I kept pressing the green phone button near the dpad and the phone just would not go to the dialer screen. Bizarre.
The problem in cases like this is that Parrot sez it's HTC's fault, and HTC sez it's Parrot's fault. And the consumer gets caught in the middle.
You need to put on the latest Parrot firmware for best compatability with Windows Mobile. The issue with the Parrot kids is not the TYTN 2, but Windows Mobile. This has been addressed in the latest firmware of at least the 3200LS Colour...

Callers deafened by ringtone when I answer by Bluetooth

Anyone else got this issue and is there a new bluetooth stack or something to resolve it?
When I click the answer button on any bluetooth headset (currently using the iqua solar powered one), the sound is temporarily diverted to by mobile before the bluetooth properly picks up, and also during that slugging moment, any ringtone playing is diverted to the caller's earpiece (i.e. sent out by my mic).
One caller complained it had nearly deafened them.
Anyone able to help?
Having the same issue with my parrot bluetooth and my Tilt
Can someone purrlleeeease help with this issue? I am now scared to answer any calls, lest I get shouted at with, "GOD WHAT WAS THAT NOISE? IT NEARLY DEAFENED ME!"
You really haven't give a lot of info here.
I mean what Rom are you running, what BT hardware and reg tweaks do your use etc.
Info is required to be of any assistance.
Note my signature shows exactly what Rom(s) I'm currently using.
Many thanks. Here are my versions:
HTC TyTN II
ROM: 1.0 Sleuth
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Essentially I think a new Bluetooth stack might solve it, but I really wish to avoid losing all data by flashing a new ROM altogether.
A new Bluetooth stack on its own would be wonderful... or a way to restore my data back to a newer ROM. Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
CJSnet said:
Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
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I know the commercial version is supposed to support "Rom Upgrade" support but I'm not sure if that is in the version that is floating around the forums.
What you can do though is make a backup prior to upgrading.
Then upgrade to test if the problem is fixed in one of WM6.1 roms.
Then downgrade and restore your back-up.
Now you will know if there is even a point to expending the effort of trying to extract the BT Stack.
Don't take offense at this next statement but if you put forth that effort it might endear someone more skilled to your cause as you've provided a "Proof of Concept" so to speak.
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
CJSnet said:
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Same issue here with the same new ROM.
I'm having the same problem. When I push the button on my BT HF it gives a horrible noise to the caller at the other end for a second. In my case I doubt it is ring tone, it doesn't sound anythin like the tone I'm using, it's just like loud crackling or smth.
I can't give you any version numbers cause by TyTN II is sent off to warranty (3rd time already). This time it stopped accepting and making calls while showing 3G symbol. Previously I had band selection on auto and had no problems. Now even after hard reset no calls could be made so off it went again. The first two faults where the speaker and the "Fn" light.
I am having the same problem, the handet is at HTC's repair facility for this and a few nagging issues. I will report what they find.
Mine isn't so much the ringtone it just sounds like a loud static sound. I thought it was the headset but I tried it with 3 different headsets and the Bluethooth in my car and they all have the same problem.
Got my phone back today and I can't say I'm impressed with HTC. First they requested that I send it in the original box then must have thrown it out and sent it in some crap box without enough padding. They didn't even send a note or invoice saying what had been done, which was nothing.
They claim they couldn't find anything wrong and when I called support the guy thought it a joke.
Needless to say it is still deafening and I am pissed.
Same Issue Here... It is almost as if there is a dely in cutting off the WAV/WMA file. Bluetooth Picks up and and both parties get the end of the ring tone.
Had the issued with the origional AT&T rom
Have the issue with Slueth 3.0 and Alex 5.2
If anyone finds a fix please let me know...
I am using PhoneAlarm - Don't know if that is related.
I've had the same complaints from some of my callers, and try to answer between rings as much as possible. The complaints have gone way down. Of course, we shouldn't have to jump thru hoops to answer our phones!
Does anyone have contact info to point HTC to this worrying thread? We need a patch release ASAP. A phone that can't answer calls properly? Yikes.
No issues with my BlueAnt Z9. Have you guys tried different headsets?
I think you may have just been lucky. It is uncommon to A) answer during the ringtone, and B) have the caller complain about the loud noise.
It happens on my Bluetooth earpiece, and Nokia car kit, and JVC car kit. So, it is for HTC to resolve.
I've tried three headsets and it happens on all of them. It happens even when I have the phone on vibrate.
I spent an hour on the phone with HTC support and they are awful, even after telling her that it happens on three different headsets she says that is sounds like a headset issue not an issue with the phone.
When I explained for the third time that I would agree if it happend with one headset but since it happens with all of the headsets it would support my arguement that it is an issue with the phone.
It was like talking to a wall. I wish I had an alternitive to HTC at this point, I love their design and have never had a problem with any of their other phones but this their lack of support is amazing.
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
VooDoo1 said:
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
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I've never had a problem with any other handset, I've had a Qtek 9100, MDA, O2 Exec, Wing and a Dash.... crap I spent a lot on phones. The only one I've had problems with is the TyTNII.
Same problem here. And sometimes the speaker will very briefly go into speaker mode as I answer! Not good.

Tilt Goes Silent - I think bluetooth related

Hi everyone. I have had my Tilt for 4months now and it has given me a lot of joy. I have flashed and reflashed with no problems at all. I am currently using Schap's 4.31 Rom with 1.27.12.11 radio.
About a month ago i installed a new car stereo that has bluetooth connectivity with my phone - worked like a charm, paired very easily and generally appeared to be working with no probs.
Then i noticed that if i was in a bluetooth conversation and somebody else was calling (on call waiting), if i switched calls i could not hear anything, and if i ignored the second call, when the person on call waiting hang up, both conversations were terminated. I thought it was odd, but i just deactivated call waiting and thought, "let them try calling me later".
The other, a lot more serious problem, is that sometimes, randomly as far as i realised, the phone will go totally silent - incoming calls won't ring, and when i try to make a call, when i press "talk" then phone does not make that beep that it makes when an outgoing call is initiated. Should the person i call pick up i cannot hear them at all.
A soft reset takes care of this problem, but it has happened to me 3 times already, and i think it was after a bluetooth call.
Has anybody faced this problem before? I need to be available on the phone 24/7 due to my work and i really need to find a solution for this. Yesterday afternoon i took a nap for 45 minutes and had six missed calls that i never heard cause the phone never rang.
The phone is always on "ring" and at full volume.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Thanks
Alkis
Same issue
I'm assuming since I also am facing this same problem that it is not uncommon. It seems to me that it happens after a bluetooth device is turned off. Somehow it sets the volume on everything to mute. I thought only a soft reset would fix it until I discovered that it was just shutting off the volume. Still annoying, though.
Tilt problems with phone going silent
This problem has occurred with my phone every since upgrading to the WM 6.1 and it is related to a bluetooth device being hooked up. Often when someone calls the ringer will go from vibrate to on, but the volume turns all the way off. It will then cycle to off completely. The cycling occurs when a call comes in or when I hang up. I can stop this problem from happening by disconnecting the bluetooth head set. I have tried three different headsets and the problem occurs with all of them (Jawbone I, Jawbone II, and Plantronics) so I know it is not the brand of headset. HTC said to try a download of a screen dimmer problem, but have not done that yet. Anyone have any better advice?
did u guys ever find a solution to this?
its quite annoying missing calls because my phone decides to go silent for some reason
Same issue with GPS
I have the same issue, even when using software that accesses the GPS via bluetooth port. Muting is irritating, but at least voicemail catches messages. What really bothers me is that sometimes the mute is turned off and the volume up, especially when in a private meeting where we do not want interruptions
Gregg
HTC Tytn II bluetooth causes silent setting
I too have had the issue where my phone will go into total silent mode after using my bluetooth stereo hands-free feature. It doen't happen after using my bluetooth headset though.
It happens pretty regular that after using the bluetooth hands-free of my JVC car stereo that when I take the phone elsewhere it is totally silent. no ringer, no alarm (Ptravel alarm is what I use), no audio if I make a call (or receive a call).
It also will cause the phone to be silent on subsequent calls on the bluetooth stereo hands-free: ie: I take a call, hang up and another call will come in and I can answer it but have no audio.
My Tytn II is running the HTC (AT&T) WM 6.1 upgrade. The only thing I have done is use the Advanced configuration manager and the Kaiser tweak to change a few settings for performance and visual enhancements.
I see others are having the same problems.....Has anyone else used the tweaks and maybe that is root of the problem?
Has anyone discovered a fix (really important). My only options are to soft reset every time I get out of the car or not use the JVC bluetooth capability (which is why I replaced the stock radio in the first place).
Thanks
Hi rrackman,
I'd advice for you to look at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457
It's quite long, so better subscribe to it and wait for responses. Several people with Tilt's have the same problem. Myself I have a JVC NX-7000 and an unbranded Kaiser (HTC TyTN II). It works fine with WM6.0, but I have the same issues you mention with WM6.1. First advice while we're searching for the solution: downgrade to WM6.0...
Regards,
Nika.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Try WM6.0 ROM - check out the thread I mention in my sig.
Regards,
Nika.
I did indeed take a look at the thread you linked earlier. Sorry for making the quick post earlier, I should have mentioned that this is regarding the "unexplained volume drop to zero" symptom, not the NSI symptom. Fortunately I don't have the NSI problem, just the drop to zero problem.
Of course downgrading to 6.0 would be the key solution, was just hoping to find a way to avoid doing just that. My phone never had the problem prior to 6.1 and was running the exact same list of applications and settings.

Original Handsfree Kit

What is the silver button on the original handsfree kit meant to do? when i have an incoming call it wont pick up so, so is there meant to be another function to it or something? thanks
i second that also
this key doesn't answer the incoming call
is there someone else has this problem ?
anyone actally used the handsfree kit?
The wired one? I use mine all the time, answers calls here, and a double press makes it dial last number..
hi, i'am also having the same issues.
the silver button does not pick up calls.
has anyone found a solution for this?
I have the same problem
I live at HK
I have been to the Service Center,
But denied it is the handfree fault but the rom bug..
I argued with them, then changed to a new handfree,
but the problem still there....
Hi everybody,
I'm new here and very grateful for all the brilliant solutions you guys come up with to all sorts of issues with x1.
I have the same problem with my hands-free: the button doesn't work and neither does the microphone. Until now, I've thought of it as a simple matter of replacing the hands-free kit, but now I see the suggestion that this is a Rom bug! Will anyone be able to elaborate a bit on this?
thanks and best regards,
Sune
Really not sure it is real or not that is a rom or software bug,
but sure quite a number of problem of people experienced such problem!
I hope SE not to put a death ear on this issue.
It is really annoying as I quite often used the handfree.
hello everyone
the same problem on my russian x1 handsfree. Have tried to fix it with some patches - no results. Then I've bought Nokia Xpress music handsfree, and it works perfectly (and radio works too).
update
VERY SAD, but it doesn't fix the problem. bad quality of X1 jack - thats the problem. Xpress key doesn't answer the incoming call periodically too, but handsfree itself working good all the time
seljean said:
hello everyone
the same problem on my russian x1 handsfree. Have tried to fix it with some patches - no results. Then I've bought Nokia Xpress music handsfree, and it works perfectly (and radio works too).
update
VERY SAD, but it doesn't fix the problem. bad quality of X1 jack - thats the problem. Xpress key doesn't answer the incoming call periodically too, but handsfree itself working good all the time
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The first time i got to know the headphone dosen;t work in answering call, I really feel astonished. It is such a basic function of phone, how can the genius of SE dose not test it. Do them think we will buy another handfree???
Really disappointed of SE.....
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What is the silver button on the original handsfree kit meant to do? when i have an incoming call it wont pick up so, so is there meant to be another function to it or something? thanks
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Hi I'm Chris from Sri lanka,
Yes, I have the same issue! The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially! It is very temeperamental and annoying. I also have a problem when I get an another call when I'm already on a call while using the handsfree. The current call goes to speaker phone and the party cannot hear wht I'm saying through my handsfree!
So I am forced to remove the handsfree and talk during such instances! Crazy this, especially since answering phone calls is one of the core functions of a cell phone! what's the point in having all the frills when answering a call is so tedious!
This is very disppointing, especially with such a high price tag to boot!
same case here. im really disappointed...
i guess that if i can when asus glaxy came out i will change mi xperia for that one... this phone is really "buggy"...
Same probleme here unfortunately.. I tried to remove all
additional programs related to dialing and volume,
switched to the new ROM, but no changes. Button on headset
does not work and microphone neither.
I also have same issue, both HK new stock ROM & cook rom also.
i'm form India, had purchased Xperia X1i and using Airtel network. when i connect my hands free and attend one call the moment second call come, automatically my loud speaker gets activated.
is any facing the same problem in Indai or any where else? will any one help me this.
is there any solutions?
squarecircle said:
Hi I'm Chris from Sri lanka,
Yes, I have the same issue! The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially! It is very temeperamental and annoying. I also have a problem when I get an another call when I'm already on a call while using the handsfree. The current call goes to speaker phone and the party cannot hear wht I'm saying through my handsfree!
So I am forced to remove the handsfree and talk during such instances! Crazy this, especially since answering phone calls is one of the core functions of a cell phone! what's the point in having all the frills when answering a call is so tedious!
This is very disppointing, especially with such a high price tag to boot!
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even i facing the same problem.
is there any solution
The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially!
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Samething here, and the above works for me too (Remove and re insert), but SE really need to fix this for us.
I believe it's a hardware problem, bad 3.5mm jack!
My right earphone's volume has fallen to one tenth. I have it for less than a month. Good listening but bad manufacturing quality.
Personally I don't think it's bad hardware, I think it's bad firmware/rom.
Currently, with GENERIC UK ROM R2AA010, three presses of headset button dials last number, long press disconnects. Not tried incoming call yet.
I really need to be able to customize this buttons function, especially to activate Voice Command, so that I can make calls, play music etc, without the need for touching the phone. Only then, will I be able to make a button for the handlebars on my motorbike.
Want to use a fully wired system to save on battery power, rather than bluetooth. Also, in all the years of using bluetooth, I have yet to find a combination of handset and headset that work seamlessly.
So far, not impressed with the lack of functionality of this headset, but can see why it works like this. Essentially SE should have included Voice Command, then this hardware/software combination would have been shipped working effectively. I think it is merely a cost saving exercise and SE need to provide a patch and fix in their next rom release.

X1 wired headset receive calls problem

Hi!
I have one black X1i SW ver R3AA010, GENERIC_UK rom.
Great phone, but i have problem with the wired factory headset.
If i have call, phone playing ringtone, and i want receive this call, but no effect. Another problem is mic is on the phone enabled, not on the headset - in ear-phone mode.
On another forums reported same problem.
I see now only one solution:
1.,Unplug Headset from phone
2.,Incoming call, after hearing rintone - plug in the headset
3.,Problem is fixed..., but only to next soft reset or next unplug
Is there any registry mod or cab fix to this?
example : manual headset mode on/off
pls help me, thank you
As you mention, the problem has been scarcely discussed in other threads (and forums), but no one's seemed to find a solution. I'm not even aware if the headset problem is a general flaw in X1, or we're just a few unfortunates.
I won my X1 in a competition so I don't think I'm really in a position to be pissed off, but this defect is indeed a MAJOR drawback, and it surprises me it hasn't been criticised more loudly in e.g. reviews and forums.
The problem smells to me like a firmware issue (though I really don't have a clue), i.e. something that our friends at Sony Ericsson (are you out there, guys?) should be able to fix in an update, but they don't.. :-(
Anyway, my workaround is to make sure the headset is 'armed' in advance whenever I want to be prepared for an incoming or outgoing call. E.g. before I hop on my bicycle, I 'simply' make a short call to whatever number, e.g. to my voicemail, and as soon as there's a connection I plug in my headset and hang up. Now the headset works - I test it by pressing the headset button twice, which should initiate redialling the last number used.
In any case, it shouldn't be necessary to make such arrangements! My previous mobile was a crap, crap Nokia - but I miss it because its headset worked like a charm.
In fact, just out of curiosity - if anyone reading this has an X1 without any headset problems (i.e. mic and button not being responsive), please speak up. Maybe we can then isolate the problem.

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