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push a ROM onto my sdcard through adb?
my win xp is so old it wont read the root of my sdcard unless its only fat32...
so i was wondering if i could do it that way...
ive looked through threads but hadnt found a definite answer seeing as im new to all this
any help would be appreciated!
I am not sure you are understanding the process or I am not understanding the question.
But lets just roll with it...
You can do:
adb push c:\romNam.zip /sdcard
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This will put the romName.zip file on the root of your sdcard (fat32 partition). From there you can reboot into recovery mode (turn off phone, then hold down the HOME button and then hit the POWER button). If you have the CM 1.4 recovery image installed then you can install any zip file and you would just point to the romName.zip file. If you have the CM 1.3 recovery image you should rename the romName.zip file to update.zip and then apply that update from the menu in CM 1.3.
If you do not have the CM recovery image installed, well, then you need to back and read some more.
i think you are on the right track for what im asking...
im using cm 1.4 recovery
lets say i dl drizzys 1.5.5
do i rename it update?update.zip?or leave it as is the way i downloaded it?
i tried putting it on my c drive and naming it update and it didnt work
or course i was using someone elses thread to go by so maybe i did it wrong
Do you have adb set up so it can connect to your phone?
If you have CM recovery 1.4 you do not have to rename it to update.zip but go ahead and do that for this test.
When you say
i tried putting it on my c drive and naming it update and it didnt work
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what do you mean?
The renaming didn't work, or the adb push didn't work
renaming it update and trying to push it through adb didnt work...
im downloading another ROM and im gonna try again and see if it might work this time...
Right. But what I am asking is, what "didnt work." Was the file not there on the sdcard after you pushed? Did the CM recovery image fail to apply the update?
the file wasnt on the sd and cm didnt see it to install...
i may have named it wrong...or missed the space between zip and /
i will try again and see if thats what was wrong...
Okay.
When you set up adb did you follow this thread?
If you are not able to mount your sdcard in windows that may or may not be a showstopper. How do you have your sdcard formatted? All fat32 or did you split it up into fat32, ext3, linux-swap?
If you are going to adb push files to your sdcard you should NOT mount the sdcard.
yes...i followed that thread
and i repartitioned my 4gb sdcard as such:
fat32 0 1405
ext3 1405 1905
linux-swap 1905 2001
and i did not mount my phone...i at least saw not to do that in very bold letters so i took it to heart...lol!
Okay, cool.
What does the CM 1.4 tell you when you try to apply the update.zip?
After you adb push the file, go into the device via adb shell.
CD to the /sdcard and do an "ls" and tell me what you see.
If you do not see anything but the adb push returned no errors, your sdcard may be fubar (don't freak yet, there are fixes for it and we will get there if we need to).
If you do see the zip file then reboot into recovery again. But this time do not try to apply an update, instead drop to a console and CD into the /sdcard again and do another "ls" and let me know what you see.
i just tried doing this:
cd c:\android-sdk-windows-1.6_r1\tools>adb shell
/ # adb push c:\KiNgxKxROM_Beta1_RedRosieThemev1_signed.zip /sdcard
/sbin/sh: adb: not found
then i tried:
/ # adb push c:\KiNgxKxROM_Beta1_RedRosieThemev1_signed /sdcard
/sbin/sh: adb: not found
then:
/ # adb push c:\update /sdcard
/sbin/sh: adb: not found
nothing
and where do i look in the forums...or how exactly do i cd to the sdcard?
aha!
I see the issue.
You do not need to adb shell then do adb push
it shoul be like:
C:c:\android-sdk-windows-1.6_r1\tools> adb push c:\KiNgxKxROM_Beta1_RedRosieThemev1_signed.zip /sdcard
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adb push is done from your local dos window not from within the adb shell.
Try that out and let me know.
wow!
that did it! thank you sooooo much!
thats just one more step i can eliminate now!
no Problem. Welcome to the world of roms.
care to walk me through how to use switchrom? lol!
all these hero builds seem to crash on me after awhile and i kinda wanna have several to switch to if/when they fail...
I am trying to pull the Sprint_Core.apk out of Damage's 2.5 rom and try to mate it with this 1.0 rom.
But every time I try and pull it it will simply give me the adb options, or will say no such file. Here's what I'm doing:
adb remount
adb pull system/app/Sprint_Core.apk C:\My Documents
I have also tried, making /system writeable but still no avail.
Can someone direct me to how I'm commanding this wrong?
Thanks!
adb remount
adb shell
cd system/app/
rm Sprint_Core.apk
Tipharet said:
adb remount
adb shell
cd system/app/
rm Sprint_Core.apk
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That would remove Sprint_Core from the phone & I think is just trying to get a copy of the Sprint_Core from DM2.5 to use with another ROM...
stephen240 said:
I am trying to pull the Sprint_Core.apk out of Damage's 2.5 rom and try to mate it with this 1.0 rom.
But every time I try and pull it it will simply give me the adb options, or will say no such file. Here's what I'm doing:
adb remount
adb pull system/app/Sprint_Core.apk C:\My Documents
I have also tried, making /system writeable but still no avail.
Can someone direct me to how I'm commanding this wrong?
Thanks!
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See if this works:
adb pull /system/app/Sprint_Core.apk "c:\my documents\"
Make sure "My Documents" exists in your c:\ drive.
Try this
adb pull system/app/Sprint_Core.apk C:\Sprint_Core.apk
no remount needed it will put right on your c drive dont do that rm stuff unless your tryin to remove it oh wait according to my adb cheat sheet that actually wouldnt do anything without adb shell in there
thatguythatdid said:
Try this
adb pull system/app/Sprint_Core.apk C:\Sprint_Core.apk
no remount needed it will put right on your c drive dont do that rm stuff unless your tryin to remove it oh wait according to my adb cheat sheet that actually wouldnt do anything without adb shell in there
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Ah, I understand now. Thanks this worked! Kudos to you!
gu1dry said:
That would remove Sprint_Core from the phone & I think is just trying to get a copy of the Sprint_Core from DM2.5 to use with another ROM...
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He can then just extract the file from the update zip.
I have been trying for some time now,pushing files via adb commands onto nexus one but keep getting cannot copy file read only file error.I am fully rooted and unlocked.I have also reinstalled the android sdk but always get the same error when I push the image file.has anyone experienced this with their phone. I have a feeling its something to do with the SD card but can't be sure.any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
I know you must be thinking "Jedi"how can he can he call himself an androidjedi when he can't sort this simple problem (to some of you),but I must say even a Jedi needs to learn!
try adb remount before your command
Dunno if this will help but have tried changing the system to rw then try to push
Tried that no cigar
are you trying to push it into your sdcard or the phone system??
and remember the whole folder name has to be in the push so it woul have to look like
C:\Users\Android>ad push "C:\Users\Android\Downloads\Android\Nexus 1\Phone.apk" /sdcard/files
has to have full path of where you are pushing it from/too.. i have mine sdk setup to use adb in any directory as well why you dont see it in the sdk directory
@ilostchild
Thanks i will try that later today and let you know
As for pushing the file - i am trying to push it to the sd card - but i am not really sure as i am following instructions in the [HOW-TO] Revert HBOOT 0.35.0017 to 0.33.0012 thread in the forum
as i need to downgrade my Hboot from #17 to 12
are the commands different for pushing a file to the phone?
the more i think about i think i need to flash the file to the phone - but i will try your adb command format of specifying the location of the file in the comp
androidjedi said:
the more i think about i think i need to flash the file to the phone - but i will try your adb command format of specifying the location of the file in the comp
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Ooo you want to push to sdcard.. ok then yea, you would type it like this
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools> adb push C:\Users\Android\Downloads\Android\signed-passion-FRF50-from-
ERE27.1e519a24.zip /sdcard*
if you dont have the option to use adb in any directory, then you have to be in the android sdk directory and in tools
cd android-sd-windows
cd tools
adb push(drag the file you want to push in the command prompt window) /sdcard*
sorry i know its detailed and im sure you know all these things.. but it kinda gets the questions out of the way for future problems to come
ilostchild said:
Ooo you want to push to sdcard.. ok then yea, you would type it like this
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools> adb push C:\Users\Android\Downloads\Android\signed-passion-FRF50-from-
ERE27.1e519a24.zip /sdcard*
if you dont have the option to use adb in any directory, then you have to be in the android sdk directory and in tools
cd android-sd-windows
cd tools
adb push(drag the file you want to push in the command prompt window) /sdcard*
sorry i know its detailed and im sure you know all these things.. but it kinda gets the questions out of the way for future problems to come
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thanks for spending time on this-i am new to the android world so any help is welcome-however detailed or not
thanks will try that
ilostchild said:
Dunno if this will help but have tried changing the system to rw then try to push
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how do i change the system to read write as i am still getting cannot copy file read only file error
androidjedi said:
how do i change the system to read write as i am still getting cannot copy file read only file error
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do adb shell
su
Mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
then exit and exit
then do push
ilostchild said:
do adb shell
su
Mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
then exit and exit
then do push
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tried that did the push and all i got was 950 KB/s <0 bytes in 76044.000s>
looks like its not pushing the file not sure what to do now
androidjedi said:
tried that did the push and all i got was 950 KB/s <0 bytes in 76044.000s>
looks like its not pushing the file not sure what to do now
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Umm if you got that mesage you may have pushed it in right..
ilostchild said:
Umm if you got that mesage you may have pushed it in right..
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does not seem to have worked for some reason as after flashing it should reboot in htc mode and then i would be able to flash a rom with the hboot12
May i ask what are you trying to push into your phone/sdcard?
ilostchild said:
May i ask what are you trying to push into your phone/sdcard?
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I am trying to follow the instructions on the thread which can be found in the the following link forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
basically trying to flash two image files that enable downgrading the Hboot from 0.35.0017 to 0.33.0012
androidjedi said:
I am trying to follow the instructions on the thread which can be found in the the following link forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726258
basically trying to flash two image files that enable downgrading the Hboot from 0.35.0017 to 0.33.0012
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managed to do it after just following the instructions and inoring what i thought was an error i managed to downgrade my happy days have a good weekend
will no doubt ask you for help another time cheers and thanks a lot
Welcome and congratz
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I have been trying to make this whole adb think work for about twenty hours strait and I still have not gotten very far. I own a mac and no pc and updated to froyo with my buddies pc. I have followed all the directions to a T over and over using terminal on the mac and I can get to the ADB commands and even to where I can see my phone by clicking devices but I must be missing something important. ANY HELP WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED I AM ABOUT TO PULL MY FREAKING HAIR OUT!!!
Ok, so if you can see your phone through adb, then you are definitely on the right track. Unfortunately, I'm not really familiar with OS X anymore so I'm not quite sure how to do it. Just sit tight for now until someone who does use a Mac, or has more of a clue then I do can help you out.
But seriously, don't pull your hair out. It won't stay on your head forever ya know...
Edit: oops, just saw this is JI6 (Froyo) not JF6, so I can't help you, but here is a general overview:
from terminal inside Android sdk main directory:
tools/adb devices -> list all devices connected that ADB can see
tools/adb shell -> gets a normal user shell on your phone
tools/adb reboot recovery -> reboots into recovery mode, suitable for update.zip root method
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Place the root update.zip on internal sdcard.
from terminal inside Android sdk directory:
tools/adb reboot recovery
Select the update software option, and you will be done.
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I have been trying to make this whole adb think work for about twenty hours strait and I still have not gotten very far. I own a mac and no pc and updated to froyo with my buddies pc. I have followed all the directions to a T over and over using terminal on the mac and I can get to the ADB commands and even to where I can see my phone by clicking devices but I must be missing something important. ANY HELP WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED I AM ABOUT TO PULL MY FREAKING HAIR OUT!!!
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Start simple:
If you open a terminal on the mac, and go to your android SDK tools folder; what happens when you type ADB shell?
Or if you type any of the ADB push commands?
You need to give more detail around what you are seeing for us to help you.
Ok so if I am in terminal and i type in my /android-sdk-mac_x86/tools nothing happens and it just says /android-sdk-mac_x86/tools is a directory. But if I type the same but with /tools/abd it opens the abd command lines, like how to write code. Then when I try to "adb push rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin"
it says "-bash: adb: command not found"
however when I type laxwillsch$ /android-sdk-mac_x86/tools/adb shell
it does give me the drop down $
but when I then try to write the next line of code "chmod 0755 rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin"
it says "chmod: rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin: No such file or directory"
I am stumped I am beginning to think i need to buy a pc as I am very interested in android development and want to learn more, but it seems all the tutorials are run assuming you are on a PC
EDIT** I have downloaded the android SDK started pack, and the 2.2 root pack and they are all in my /android-sdk-mac_x86/tools folder that is directly on my Macintosh HD for simplicity
Do you know how to change directories (cd command)?
The problem is that you are trying to work in one directory, but all your tools are in another.
So change directories to the tools directory:
cd /android-sdk-mac_x86/tools/
now run your adb commands - you may have to type ./adb to tell your mac to look in the current directory for the adb command (that is what ./ means "start here")
Also, try to understand what is happening so you can more easily troubleshoot: chmod is a command to change permissions, and you are running it on the phone. If you can't push the file to the phone, then you can change it's permisssions. I guess you never got rageagainstthecage on the phone, so there is no way to chmod it.
If you can't do this on a mac, a PC is not easier. I use both, and like both, but you need to learn basic commands first - they apply to the mac terminal and the windows cmd prompt.
Getting root means moving in and out of the phone - adb shell - puts you in a terminal on the phone. So you really need to understand cd (change directory); pwd (present working directory - shows you where you are); cp (copy); and know your current path - what the ./ does.
I hope this helps, not trying to sound condescending - maybe practice a linux terminal tutorial would help
Thanks so much, I am at school right now and cant test out all that but you are really helping me understand all this! I will post tonight and let you know how it goes. again thank you
ok so i dont have my usb cable with me but I was playing around with the commands that you suggested and ureka! i finally got to a point where it says "h70-33-65-19:tools laxwillsch$" thats a first! and when i type pwd it shows "/android-sdk-mac_x86/tools" so that means I am working out of the right directory right? and from here I enable usb debugging connect my phone then just copy and paste the codes from the thread correct?
yes, it sounds like you are on the right track. But take it nice and slow when you follow the steps. It is very important that the commands are entered exactly as you see them.
Also, one step tells you to wait for something to run and kick you out of ADB - wait just like it says - takes about 45 seconds but feels like forever.
If you are in the tools directory - just by typing "adb" no quotes will give you whole page of adb commands - if you get a "command not found", then you need to add the ./ and make it ./adb
Hope this helps and again, read the commands step by step a couple times first so you understand what is happening.
In a nutsell, you push the rage file;
change its permissions, run it;
get kicked out of ADB and then open a new ADB shell;
you are now root;
remount the system partition to give you write access when it reboots;
reboot;
push over some files;
change permissions on files you pushed;
reboot;
Some things to know - SU is a command for gaining root access; when you use SU your prompt changes (in adb shell) from $ to #
If you are succesful you should see the SuperUser app listed in your apps.
Done and Done just rooted successfully couldnt have done it without you! thanks so much
I have wiped and restored more times tonight than I can count....HELP!!!! I have a very lean rom. So lean it that it has no file explorer and I don't want to install gapps. All I want to do is install Titanium Backup (the .apk file is on the root of my SD card) with the terminal emulator and I'll be all set. I have had all different error messages, and I'm more confused now then when I started this adventure, 6+ hours ago. Any help would be great.
hockeyfamily737 said:
I have wiped and restored more times tonight than I can count....HELP!!!! I have a very lean rom. So lean it that it has no file explorer and I don't want to install gapps. All I want to do is install Titanium Backup (the .apk file is on the root of my SD card) with the terminal emulator and I'll be all set. I have had all different error messages, and I'm more confused now then when I started this adventure, 6+ hours ago. Any help would be great.
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Just download a file manager, (es fileexplorer, or root explorer) and install it that way. or if you have adb and all the drivers you need for it.
Put the .apk in the tools folder in the SDK
and go to it in a command prompt and type adb install titaniumbackup.apk..
Or whatever you apk is named.
if you need help, dont quote this, just send me a pm for help =]
(Posting this again for others reference all this is pulled from my previous post which you can find in my signature - "Terminal/adb shell commands")
Adb commands are completely different than terminal commands.
First enter "su" to get substitute user (the # sign)
Then enter "mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system" to make the root r/w
to copy files use "cp" command
to move files use "mv" command
to remove files use "rm" command
to change file/dir permissions use "chmod"
to change directories use "cd" - "cd .." will bring you back one directory - "cd //" brings you back to root
to list files in the dir use "ls"
to read/mod/combine a file use "cat"
to edit a value use "echo"
to see running processes use "top"
to kill a process use "kill -9 PID#HERE"
ex) cp /sdcard/download/myapplication.apk /data/app/myapplication.apk
If you know any linux commands then you should know your way around terminal emulator. If you want i can give you more examples just let me know. Hope this helped
To answer your question OP, just follow my example. Except in your case it'd be something like this:
Code:
su
cp /sdcard/TitaniumBackup.apk /data/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
replace "titaniumbackup.apk" with the actual file name of your apk file.
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kyouko said:
(Posting this again for others reference all this is pulled from my previous post which you can find in my signature - "Terminal/adb shell commands")
Adb commands are completely different than terminal commands.
First enter "su" to get substitute user (the # sign)
Then enter "mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system" to make the root r/w
to copy files use "cp" command
to move files use "mv" command
to remove files use "rm" command
to change file/dir permissions use "chmod"
to change directories use "cd" - "cd .." will bring you back one directory - "cd //" brings you back to root
to list files in the dir use "ls"
to read/mod/combine a file use "cat"
to edit a value use "echo"
to see running processes use "top"
to kill a process use "kill -9 PID#HERE"
ex) cp /sdcard/download/myapplication.apk /data/app/myapplication.apk
If you know any linux commands then you should know your way around terminal emulator. If you want i can give you more examples just let me know. Hope this helped
To answer your question OP, just follow my example. Except in your case it'd be something like this:
Code:
su
cp /sdcard/TitaniumBackup.apk /data/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
replace "titaniumbackup.apk" with the actual file name of your apk file.
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i know theyre different,i was getting a point across, in which if he cant get it too work, try adb. Even though errors with TE usually means youre not entering something correct
davidevan said:
i know theyre different,i was getting a point across, in which if he cant get it too work, try adb. Even though errors with TE usually means youre not entering something correct
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Yea they are. Besides, personally I'd do it the way you mentioned; either first using a filemanager (easiest imo) or via adb install
Only reason I replied was in case there was a specific reason he'd only want to use terminal emulator and not adb or a FileMan
Edit: Oh I see what I think you're referring to, the line:
Adb commands are completely different than terminal commands.
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That was just directly copied from a post I made before something about wanting to "adb push" with TE, it had nothing to do with your response
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Thank you everyone. I need to use Terminal Emulator, because I'm not allowed to install the ADB drivers on my work computer, the ROM I want to use did not have a file manager packed in it and I don't want to install gapps to download one from the market. I simply want to install Titanium, so I can add a file manager and a couple of other select apps so as not to clutter up the system. As soon as I flash back to that rom, I'll try it the above mentioned way.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Thank you everyone. I need to use Terminal Emulator, because I'm not allowed to install the ADB drivers on my work computer, the ROM I want to use did not have a file manager packed in it and I don't want to install gapps to download one from the market. I simply want to install Titanium, so I can add a file manager and a couple of other select apps so as not to clutter up the system. As soon as I flash back to that rom, I'll try it the above mentioned way.
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Ah thats sucks bro, it come in handy now and then, Listen to this guy up here since he knows more about TE than I. Also a simple google "terminal emulator" command and it might add on to your comprehension.
And judt to get this outta of the way, in TE if you do type su <enter> you get #? if you dont #,you get acces denied; denied meaning youre not rooted. Meaning it cant find an su in the bin or xbin, rendering TE pointless. So make sure youre root
hockeyfamily737 said:
Thank you everyone. I need to use Terminal Emulator, because I'm not allowed to install the ADB drivers on my work computer, the ROM I want to use did not have a file manager packed in it and I don't want to install gapps to download one from the market. I simply want to install Titanium, so I can add a file manager and a couple of other select apps so as not to clutter up the system. As soon as I flash back to that rom, I'll try it the above mentioned way.
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btw click my thanks meter ;]
its the ony thing i have left lmao! :'(
davidevan said:
Ah thats sucks bro, it come in handy now and then, Listen to this guy up here since he knows more about TE than I. Also a simple google "terminal emulator" command and it might add on to your comprehension.
And judt to get this outta of the way, in TE if you do type su <enter> you get #? if you dont #,you get acces denied; denied meaning youre not rooted. Meaning it cant find an su in the bin or xbin, rendering TE pointless. So make sure youre root
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and how is your computer not compatible with SDK. You dont have Windows, linux or Macc?
davidevan said:
and how is your computer not compatible with SDK. You dont have Windows, linux or Macc?
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It's not an issue of compatibilty..... It's an issue of the IT people at work having our computers locked up so we can't install / uninstall anything from them. All I can do is transfer files from the pc to my sd. I don't have authorization to install the necessary drivers for my phone.
hockeyfamily737 said:
It's not an issue of compatibilty..... It's an issue of the IT people at work having our computers locked up so we can't install / uninstall anything from them. All I can do is transfer files from the pc to my sd. I don't have authorization to install the necessary drivers for my phone.
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If you can transfer files from a computer to a device, then you should be able to take files from a USB drive and put them on the C drive of your computer.
waffle_ said:
If you can transfer files from a computer to a device, then you should be able to take files from a USB drive and put them on the C drive of your computer.
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To clarify.... Yes I can access my sd card from my computer. Yes I can transfer files between my sd card and my hard drive. However, when I try to install the ADB drivers to access the rom in my phone I get a little message that I'm not authorized to add / remove hardware or software from the computer....to please contact my IT administrator. Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong, maybe it's not. If I can learn to use this emulator though, it doesn't really matter. I have ADB on my computer at home if I really need it, I'm just not inclined to turn the computer at home on very often. Thanks again to everyone for the help.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
To clarify.... Yes I can access my sd card from my computer. Yes I can transfer files between my sd card and my hard drive. However, when I try to install the ADB drivers to access the rom in my phone I get a little message that I'm not authorized to add / remove hardware or software from the computer....to please contact my IT administrator. Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong, maybe it's not. If I can learn to use this emulator though, it doesn't really matter. I have ADB on my computer at home if I really need it, I'm just not inclined to turn the computer at home on very often. Thanks again to everyone for the help.
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Search the dev thread for my guide on how to install adb. Might do the job for your work computer. Or just hit my avatar and find the thread that way. If you do try it let me know if it works.
#Root/Hack_Mod-Always®
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Search the dev thread for my guide on how to install adb. Might do the job for your work computer. Or just hit my avatar and find the thread that way. If you do try it let me know if it works.
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Sitll no good installing ADB at work, but I did get a good ADB workout at home this weekend rooting my son's Optimus......Wholy crap!!! Revert to old software, lose the lcd display, root with rage against the cage, push recovery to the phone, revert back to current version of software, lose root, and then re-root on current software with recovery already installed, what a process that was!!!! BTW.... Terminal Emulator commands worked perfect. Mistake I was making was trying to "push" from my SD card instead of "copy".