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Can i still downgrade and root and go to CM ROM

I'm at stock 1.5 cupcake
Can i still downgrade and root and go to CM ROM

Yes you can. Just follow the normal steps on how to downgrade (you can find such information in the FAQ section in my signature, namely the How To Root, flash and hack bit.). All the informaiton should be there along with links to the firmware version you need to downgrade to and all the other steps required.

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Can i use this tut
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731
to install CM's ROm on my g1

Yes, its a well written tutorial. My advice is to read it first so you become comfortable with what you're doing and then follow the steps.
If that's still confusing then try this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

wow seems like a lot of work to root the phone but it will work

NeoBlade said:
Yes, its a well written tutorial. My advice is to read it first so you become comfortable with what you're doing and then follow the steps.
If that's still confusing then try this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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this is the one i used works great

This tut should work fine except I dont think you need to do this.
"How to install custom ROM (With full wipe)
Download your favorite flavor of rom (I prefer JACHero http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522076) and rename to update.zip
1.) Turn on the phone holding the home key and power to boot. Attach the phone to your computer via usb.
2.) Wipe your phone from the menu in cyanogen
3.) Open console and enter the following commands. Press "Enter" after each line. This wipes the ext partition.
mount -o rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system/sd
rm -r /system/sd/*
4.) Mount the phone so you can copy update.zip over easily by entering the following commands. Press "Enter" after each line.
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
5.) Type recovery to go back to the recovery menu."
6.) Apply the update.zip file then reboot the phone.
maybe thats for the purpose of putting on the hero based roms. I dont remember having to ever do that step .

Yeah, silly me I guessed the first link was the guide I was thinking of!
Also don't forget guys that if you are planning to use a newer ROM, do upgrade your Radio first. As an option you can upgrade your SPL too to either the HardSPL or the very latest version which is on my signature.
Beware though that before flashing the latest SPL you must ideally have a PVT motherboard (simply turn off mobile, hold CAMERA+POWER to get into the SPL. The text at the top will list the model number) and you MUST FLASH THE LATEST RADIO FIRST.
Can't stress that enough really

So after doing the steps before that just dont do them and go straight to CM's Rom
And can someone give me a dirct link to the current CM ROm i dont want to dl the wrong one thanxs for whoever does so

hazard99 said:
This tut should work fine except I dont think you need to do this.
"How to install custom ROM (With full wipe)
Download your favorite flavor of rom (I prefer JACHero http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522076) and rename to update.zip
1.) Turn on the phone holding the home key and power to boot. Attach the phone to your computer via usb.
2.) Wipe your phone from the menu in cyanogen
3.) Open console and enter the following commands. Press "Enter" after each line. This wipes the ext partition.
mount -o rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system/sd
rm -r /system/sd/*
4.) Mount the phone so you can copy update.zip over easily by entering the following commands. Press "Enter" after each line.
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
5.) Type recovery to go back to the recovery menu."
6.) Apply the update.zip file then reboot the phone.
maybe thats for the purpose of putting on the hero based roms. I dont remember having to ever do that step .
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All that would be under the pretext that you have the latest SPL and have flashed Cyanogen's recovery image. Also the pretext that you want the Hero ROM too.
There are many methods for achieving the same goal. For the more savvy amongst us, ADB is all that's needed and a few commands. For the newbies, its best to keep things simple.
K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid) is a wonderful rule of thumb for many things in life ^_^

i'd use the second tut to get root

watchyaself said:
So after doing the steps before that just dont do them and go straight to CM's Rom
And can someone give me a dirct link to the current CM ROm i dont want to dl the wrong one thanxs for whoever does so
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Use this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Follow the steps there. If you wanted Cyanogen's latest ROM as you've stated, simply go to the very first post of his thread. Its all there.

So pretty much i can use this( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731)but its not recommended if i want to go to CM's rom
ps i dont have a partition manager so you think i should do this one??

watchyaself said:
So pretty much i can use this( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731)but its not recommended if i want to go to CM's rom
ps i dont have a partition manager so you think i should do this one??
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Not wanting to sound like a broken record but there are multiple ways in obtaining the same result.
I and rigamrts have strongly suggested using this guide as it is clearer and even has screenshots making it easier to follow - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Then...
NeoBlade said:
Also don't forget guys that if you are planning to use a newer ROM, do upgrade your Radio first. As an option you can upgrade your SPL too to either the HardSPL or the very latest version which is on my signature.
Beware though that before flashing the latest SPL you must ideally have a PVT motherboard (simply turn off mobile, hold CAMERA+POWER to get into the SPL. The text at the top will list the model number) and you MUST FLASH THE LATEST RADIO FIRST.
Can't stress that enough really
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Also you only need to partition your SD card if you plan on doing Apps2SD. If you don't have a need for it then don't worry about partitioning your SD card. If you are planning to use Apps2SD then I would strongly suggest at least a Class 6 SD Card.

well im planning on using apps2sd and i do have a class 6 sdhc card

watchyaself said:
So pretty much i can use this( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731)but its not recommended if i want to go to CM's rom
ps i dont have a partition manager so you think i should do this one??
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ok there are like 30 different tuts to get root all do the same thing just different ways you have to choose the one that you would feel most comfortable with cause if you choose one that's not right for you and try to flash some of the newer roms you have a good chance to brick your phone. so spend a week read as many tuts as you can it's not a race to get root take your time.

Partition Manager has a fully functional demo that lasts for 30 days. Google it to download, install and partition your SD card. Remember FAT32 partition first, then EXT2 or EXT3 partition second. Also I would advise for the EXT partition not to exceed 1GB, as to be honest you won't be using all of it.

G1 - Recovery mode Exclamation Mark Screen

1. I had a rooted phone with CyanogenMod 4.1.9999
2. I downloaded Original System Image (signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-14721.zip) from http://developer.htc.com/adp.html
3. I updated the phone with the zip file
Now I'm getting an exclamation screen when I try to get into recovery scree (Pressing Home button during boot)
I tried to downgraded using RC29 Image: http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/DREAIMG-RC29.zip - Followed first 6 steps from http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=8970.0
I'm not able to update or do anything with the phone now.
PLEASE HELP!!!!

my guess would 2 be push alt+l and a list of options will come up! Also dont use the system image from htc.com use the recovery image 2 go back 2 whatever version you want it 2... make sure u wipe before you downgrade/upgrade

please move
sorry to be the one to point this out...but please ask these questions in the q&a section as it is not development related

garok89 said:
sorry to be the one to point this out...but please ask these questions in the q&a section as it is not development related
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I'm sorry for posting it here. I'm not able to move it to Q&A section. If there is an option, please let me know how.

law_ren_ce said:
my guess would 2 be push alt+l and a list of options will come up! Also dont use the system image from htc.com use the recovery image 2 go back 2 whatever version you want it 2... make sure u wipe before you downgrade/upgrade
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Thanks law_ren.
I get 3 options when i press Alt+L
1. Alt+L Toggle log text display
2. Alt+S apply sdcard:update.zip
3. Alt+W Wipe Data/factory reset
I renamed the android 1.6 system image to update.zip
[snap]
Verifying update package...
E:No signature (5 Files)
E:Verification failed

hifake said:
Thanks law_ren.
I get 3 options when i press Alt+L
1. Alt+L Toggle log text display
2. Alt+S apply sdcard:update.zip
3. Alt+W Wipe Data/factory reset
I renamed the android 1.6 system image to update.zip
[snap]
Verifying update package...
E:No signature (5 Files)
E:Verification failed
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The same happens with recovery image signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721.zip

I say flash another recovery.img via fastboot.

Hi I have a problem like you....my G1 load only in recovery mode(Hold power=recovery, hold home+power=recovery, camera+power=recovery)
Did you fix your G1??? Please help me fix it

EvGeNN2007 said:
Hi I have a problem like you....my G1 load only in recovery mode(Hold power=recovery, hold home+power=recovery, camera+power=recovery)
Did you fix your G1??? Please help me fix it
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I haven't fixed it yet. Am not able to place the recovery image using fastboot - my phone is not recognized by the computer

Work around I've found for flashing the recovery image if you can't figure out fastboot (I've never got it to work) is like this:
1. Follow the root procedure.
2. Install the most recent CM rom without using the HTC image (reason I do this is he's got some linux commands built into his ROM that aren't installed in the vanilla android build).
3. Download the cm-recovery-1.4.img to your sd card (or whichever recovery image you like)
4. Run terminal commands like so:
$su root (the reason I do this is it gives you higher level access to the system than just su, and I've found it doesn't work with just su for some reason)
#flash recovery /sdcard/cm-recovery-1.4.img
#reboot
5. Hold your home key as it powers up, and you should have the new recovery image installed.
Of course, I'd say do a full wipe, then install the ROM, and go through the fix permissions and clear cache.

JonnyFlash said:
Work around I've found for flashing the recovery image if you can't figure out fastboot (I've never got it to work) is like this:
1. Follow the root procedure.
2. Install the most recent CM rom without using the HTC image (reason I do this is he's got some linux commands built into his ROM that aren't installed in the vanilla android build).
3. Download the cm-recovery-1.4.img to your sd card (or whichever recovery image you like)
4. Run terminal commands like so:
$su root (the reason I do this is it gives you higher level access to the system than just su, and I've found it doesn't work with just su for some reason)
#flash recovery /sdcard/cm-recovery-1.4.img
#reboot
5. Hold your home key as it powers up, and you should have the new recovery image installed.
Of course, I'd say do a full wipe, then install the ROM, and go through the fix permissions and clear cache.
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Am not even able to access terminal. I get the following 3 options only
1. Alt+L Toggle log text display
2. Alt+S apply sdcard:update.zip
3. Alt+W Wipe Data/factory reset

hifake said:
Am not even able to access terminal. I get the following 3 options only
1. Alt+L Toggle log text display
2. Alt+S apply sdcard:update.zip
3. Alt+W Wipe Data/factory reset
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You won't be able to use terminal from recovery until you have a thirdparty recovery image installed. The steps I've listed are for a working phone, and I'm sure that's where part of your problem is. I'd suggest doing a wipe (Alt+W) and going through the root process again. When you get the CM Rom, change the name of it to update.zip, then try the steps I mentioned. I'd suggest having a separate SD card with just DREAMIMG.nbh installed on it for emergencies (especially if you're going to partition your main card).

Thanks
2) Install the most recent CM rom without using the HTC image(What is it? Can explane?)
4) Terminal as i understand its Telnet?
Can i do works a boot mode and then downgrade it to RC29?? Because after it i'll know what to do... Thanks!

EvGeNN2007 said:
Thanks
2) Install the most recent CM rom without using the HTC image(What is it? Can explane?)
4) Terminal as i understand its Telnet?
Can i do works a boot mode and then downgrade it to RC29?? Because after it i'll know what to do... Thanks!
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Basically to get this working you're going to need to downgrade to RC29 first - so follow the root instructions.
CM = CyanogenMod ROM. To get his working fully you need two roms, which are the HTC Developer ROM and the 4.x ROMs he created (reason being legal distribution of software), but for my instructions, on his ROM page, you're going to skip his instructions, just download his ROM, rename it to update.zip and just flash it from the stock recovery, just so you can get to the terminal once the phone boots up and load terminal (it's in the programs tray). When another screen pops up asking if you want to allow it to use SU functions (it will as soon as you type "su") hit allow.
Terminal is a program downloadable from the Market, it's included with the CM ROM.
His instructions for install are not going to work unless you have a thirdparty recovery image, which at this point from the description, the triangle with the exclamation point is the default system recovery image.
CM Rom page
You should be able to find the Root posts and choose a customed recovery image, there's about 4 or 5 really good ones, I use Cyanogen's, thus my instructions on how to flash it.
You're fortunate that you're getting to the stock recovery, means your phone isn't bricked.

JonnyFlash said:
You won't be able to use terminal from recovery until you have a thirdparty recovery image installed. The steps I've listed are for a working phone, and I'm sure that's where part of your problem is. I'd suggest doing a wipe (Alt+W) and going through the root process again. When you get the CM Rom, change the name of it to update.zip, then try the steps I mentioned. I'd suggest having a separate SD card with just DREAMIMG.nbh installed on it for emergencies (especially if you're going to partition your main card).
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I have successfully installed RC 29
FW 1.0
Baseband 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kernel: 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
Build: kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247
But Am not able to download telnet (or any other app) from market. I have tried several times with wifi & Cell data .

hifake said:
I have successfully installed RC 29
FW 1.0
Baseband 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kernel: 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
Build: kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247
But Am not able to download telnet (or any other app) from market. I have tried several times with wifi & Cell data .
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Not sure what you mean? Telnet for these intents and purposes is basically just a command. The page on how to root has become pretty convoluted at this point. The part where it tells you to type 'telnetd' is just running a script which is an exploit in the old releases of android. You won't be messing with Terminal really until you get to the point where you've updated the rom. From this point, I'd suggest downloading this root.apk from your browser, install it, allow it, follow the instructions step by step in the program.

My problem consist of that i can't turn on my phone and i can't get into bootloader...only recovery can you give me a link for RC29 download and then install it from recovery on my g1 from recovery.
Thanks!

EvGeNN2007 said:
My problem consist of that i can't turn on my phone and i can't get into bootloader...only recovery can you give me a link for RC29 download and then install it on my g1 from recovery.
Thanks!
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You're probably going to need a card reader...here's the instruction for rooting with a download for the RC29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

I know all this steps but i Tell that i CAN'T get into boot mode and in boot downgrade from DREAMIMG.nbh to RC29... In that All my problem...
How can i flash to RC29 from Recovery Mode?

EvGeNN2007 said:
I know all this steps but i Tell that i CAN'T get into boot mode and in boot downgrade from DREAMIMG.nbh to RC29... In that All my problem...
How can i flash to RC29 from Recovery Mode?
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You don't...with the DREAMIMG.nbh or any .nbh file you start up the phone holding power+camera. The recovery mode looks for an update.img file. You'll make it through, don't get frustrated.
Here's a more updated rooting guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553416

[GUIDE] Everything

Sup guys. So, I saw a bunch of little Threads that add up to one thing. I decided to make one BIIG Thread to include all the Tutorials EVER. I'm only going to include Tutorials on G1 ROMs and MyTouch stuff, but I might also go onto things like the Nexus One. Btw, some things on here, like the ADB Setup, is for all devices. Next, is a Key for all the terms I use. I know that it sucks right now, but I had to put together something for today. I'll go back tomorrow and revise ALL of it and make it more Noober-Friendly.
Please remember. I am not saying anything will happen to your phone. I am NOT giving you steps to Brick your phone. I am not telling you to do this. If you do go ahead and do this, and you mess up, I am sorry, but not responsible.
Terms:
Noober - Noob User
Cook - A developer who makes a ROM.
Kitchen - Where a ROM is made.
Cooking - Making a ROM.
Flash - Installing a ROM.
Wipe - Wiping your Phones Data.
Partition - Break your SD Card into parts.
EXT - A Partition in your SD Card for Installed Applications.
Swap - A Partition in your SD Card for Data to flow from your phone to and from.
FAT32 - A Partition in your SD Card used for your own liking.
Recovery Mode - Booting with Home + Power to Flash and Wipe ROMs and such.
BootLoader Mode- Booting with Camera + Power.
FastBoot Mode - Booting with Back + Power.
Next, we will begin Rooting.
Rooting the 1.6 G1
Notes: When I say Flash in Recovery, it means Wipe + Flash. When I say Bootloader, just go to BootLoader Mode. Always Finish Setup when Flashing a new ROM.
Download Files
Original G1 SPL
DREAIMG.nbh
Official TMO OTA Cupcake
Recovery.apk
AMON_RA RECOVERY IMAGE 1.6.2
Instructions-
1.) Take the Original G1 SPL, and put it on your SD Card and rename it to Update.ZIP
2.) Boot into Recovery Mode and Flash the files. If it gives you an Error, don't worry, keep going.
3.) Reboot your Phone. Put the DREAIMG.nbh File onto your SD Card. Rename it to Update.ZIP
4.) Reboot your Phone. Boot into BootLoader Mode and Press the Power Button. Let it finish the Update. Then press the Trackball. When you go to the Rainbow Screen, pull out your Battery.
5.) Boot your Phone up. Finish everything and then put the Official TMO OTA Cupcake on your SD Card, and rename it to Update.ZIP
6.) Reboot into Recovery Mode and Flash the Update. Boot your your Phone and finish everything. Now, go to the App Store and download Astro File Manager.
7.) While that's downloading, put the Recovery.APK on your SD Card. Go to Settings>Applications>Unknown Sources>OK. Go to Astro File Manager and press on the .APK Press App Manager and Install the App.
8.) Put the AMON_RA RECOVERY IMAGE 1.6.2 on your SD Card. Rename it to Recovery.img Launch Recovery from your All Apps Drawer. Press BackUp and let it do its thing. Now, type in /SDCard/Recovery.IMG
*9.) Put the Danger SPL on your SD Card, along with the newest Radio and the Amazingness-in-A-Jar.zip-signed ROM. Flash the Radio with a Wipe, and Reboot to recovery. Flash the SPL with a Wipe, and reboot into Recovery. Flash the ROM with a Wipe, and Reboot.*
10.) Reboot the Device and Set up everything. You are now Rooted.
*All of Step 9 is optional. If you have found a ROM you would like to Flash that doesn't require Danger SPL, go for it.
Partitioning SD Card
Instructions -
1.) Format your SD Card to FAT32 on your Desktop.
2.) Go to your Recovery Menu and press
Code:
ALT + P
ALT + 0
128 MB - SWAP
512 MB - EXT
REMAINDER - FAT32
HOME
ALT + 2
ALT + 3
ALT + 1
BACK
ALT + W
ALT + 0
ALT + 1
ALT + 2
ALT + 3
ALT + 4
BACK
ALT + T
ALT + F
At ALT + P you are Partitioning. At ALT + W you Wipe. At ALT + T you put the ROM back on your SD Card. At ALT + F, you Re-Flash the ROM. Set it up again, and you will see that a lot more has changed. The speed, will be a lot better then before.

As helpful as this might be to some people, you can't depend on getting a sticky for it. Plus something like this has already been made, deep in the archives/stickied. For the sake of your fingers I would just stop right now as there are many easier ways to root and such now.

Hater. 10 char. It's not just Rooting, it's EVERYTHING! I'm just not done yet.

G1BRICKED said:
Hater. 10 char. It's not just Rooting, it's EVERYTHING! I'm just not done yet.
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Hating on the truth ain't a bad thing. I just find this thread highly unnecessary with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523(not to muention that this is stickied) thread already created and of course other threads made just like yours are also lurking somewhere in the trash or in the old pages of XDA. Sorry if I'm sounding too harsh here, if you want me to stop then I can stop anytime as I don't want this post to become a fight between you and me.

I still think you a hater. But it's all good.

Hello,
Ty for compreensive guide.
im here:
1)2.) Boot into Recovery Mode and Flash the files. If it gives you an Error, don't worry, keep going.
For me it give this error:
Verifing the update package...
e: No signature(5 files)
e: verification failed
Instalation aborted
how to ge trought?
im using 1.6 donut stock american DMD64
ty in advance,
Pedro

Need Help...can't Downgrade To Rc29

So I've had my G1 for a while now on the stock non-rooted OS and I decided to try to get a 2.1 rom installed on it. After looking around and reading quite a bit, I primarily went off of this blog post to get it done. hxxp://www .myhangoutonline.com/component/content/article/342-tutorials/7-root-and-upgrade-your-g1
I got it downgraded to RC29 successfully and went through the rooting process. Once I tried to reboot it into recovery mode, my phone just sat at the G1 screen indefinitely. Waited up to an hour and restarted the entire process about 3 times with the same result. Then I started looking around thinking maybe the DREAIMG.nbh file that was provided was no good and I got one linked off of this site hxxp:// androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
So the next time I tried to start over by restoring to the RC29 image it gets all the way through and fails at the end. It says "Update Terminate UPDATE FAIL". I tried going back to the image that worked a few minutes prior to that and I'm getting the same thing.
Any ideas on what I need to do? I'm stuck without a phone until I get this resolved...

Your post is difficult to understand.
The first question:
WHY did you install an NBH file?
The second question:
WHAT *exactly* did you do to the thing?
The third question:
WHY are you trying again to install an NBH file?
The fourth question:
What is it doing now?
The fifth and final question:
HOW can you possibly justify following a bunch of steps that some retard spewed out on a "blog"?
Note: NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER write an NBH file to your phone!!! Especially once you have root! NEVER.
Note2: you say its stock tmoble-branded htc dream? That means android 1.6 and I believe susceptible to the 1-click-root bug... why didn't you run the 1-click root?
What happens if you try to boot the phone ***NORMALLY*** (instead of recovery)?
What happens if you plug in the USB and run "adb logcat"?

lbcoder said:
Your post is difficult to understand.
The first question:
WHY did you install an NBH file?
The second question:
WHAT *exactly* did you do to the thing?
The third question:
WHY are you trying again to install an NBH file?
The fourth question:
What is it doing now?
The fifth and final question:
HOW can you possibly justify following a bunch of steps that some retard spewed out on a "blog"?
Note: NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER write an NBH file to your phone!!! Especially once you have root! NEVER.
Note2: you say its stock tmoble-branded htc dream? That means android 1.6 and I believe susceptible to the 1-click-root bug... why didn't you run the 1-click root?
What happens if you try to boot the phone ***NORMALLY*** (instead of recovery)?
What happens if you plug in the USB and run "adb logcat"?
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1. I installed the nbh file because that's what was in every single set of instructions I've found said to do. Step 1 is to downgrade your phone to RC29 for US phones, and the DREAIMG.nbh file is the way to do that from everywhere that I've seen, mostly here and the cyanogenmod forums. If there is a better guide to follow, please link me.
2. I've already explained this. I followed the following instructions:
1. Format your phone's SD card to FAT32 mode:
o Hook your phone up to your computer using a USB cable and then wait for the
notification to show up in your title bar of your phone.
o Click the notification, and then click "Mount".
o A new removable disk should show up on your computer. Right click it and select
Format, and select FAT32 as the file system type.
2. Download and unzip the RC29 or RC7 image file. Copy the DREAIMG.nbh file to the SD card.
(RC29 for US, RC7 is for UK)
3. Turn the device power off.
4. Hold Camera button, and press Power button to entry boot loader mode. You should see a
gray/white screen with instructions to flash your phone with the update on your SD card. If you
don't see that, make sure you followed the instructions properly.
5. As per the on-screen instructions, press the Power button to start upgrade procedure. DO NOT
DO ANYTHING TO INTERRUPT THIS PROCESS.
6. After it is finished, perform the restart your phone.
Rooting your RC29 or lower phone:
On RC29 phones and lower, anything you type into your keyboard is also being run in a hidden console
with root permissions. More information regarding that at the bottom of this post. But, to get root access,
do the following:
Instructions:
1. Download recovery.img or the new version by Amon recovery-RA-dream-v1.5.2.img and copy
it to your SD card (see the previous instructions on how to copy from your computer to your
Phone's SD card).
2. Download the Hard SPL and copy the zip file to the SD card.
3. All files must be on the root of your SD card.
4. Restart your phone. Wait for your phone to start up fully and show the home screen.
5. After your phone starts up, hit the enter key twice, type "telnetd" and press enter. (Yes, it
will start up a contact search, don't worry. Just type it.)
6. Download an Android "Telnet" application from the Market and connect to localhost.
7. If you connect successfully, you will have a root prompt "#".
8. Type the following into Telnet (these commands will give you root access easier in the future):
o mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
o cd sdcard
o flash_image recovery recovery.img
o cat recovery.img > /system/recovery.img
Now you have root!
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3. Already explained in #1. Again if there is a better, easier guide to follow by all means show me. I am new to this, and from what I've seen if noobs ask "how do I do this" around here, they get flamed for not figuring it out for themselves. Something I'm also sensing from your post.
4. I've gotten past my initial problem. This morning I was shown another DREAIMG.nbh file from another source, and I was able to get it on the phone and get it to boot. I've since gone through the root process (using the guide posted above), but I still can't get it into recovery mode. So that's where I'm now stuck.
5. As opposed to a bunch of steps some retard spewed on a "message board"? All of the guides I've gone through were either on or linked to from this forum or the cyanogenmod forum. Both I assume reputable sources for this type of thing.
Note: I think you need to show me another guide because what you're saying contradicts everything I've seen.
Note2: Don't know. Everything I've seen says I have to go back to 1.4 to be able to root it because the security holes were closed in 1.6.
The phone is again back to the 1.4 image from the nbh file. I've tried to root it and get it to recovery mode without any luck, so I could use some guidance on what to do from here. I'm not really sure what adb logcat is or why I'd want to do it.

TalioGladius said:
1. I installed the nbh file because that's what was in every single set of instructions I've found said to do. Step 1 is to downgrade your phone to RC29 for US phones, and the DREAIMG.nbh file is the way to do that from everywhere that I've seen, mostly here and the cyanogenmod forums. If there is a better guide to follow, please link me.
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Just because it was written does NOT make it right.
The process of rooting does NOT require an NBH file.
The process of REPAIDING NEVER needs an NBH file.
You should NEVER TOUCH an NBH file. The ONLY thing an NBH file does is it increases the risk that you will brick your phone by a bad flash.
Don't do it!
2. I've already explained this. I followed the following instructions:
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Reposting that crap doesn't help.
WHAT DID YOU DO? WHERE DID YOU GET TO? WHAT DID YOU SKIP? WHAT BUTTONS DID YOU PRESS?
3. Already explained in #1. Again if there is a better, easier guide to follow by all means show me. I am new to this, and from what I've seen if noobs ask "how do I do this" around here, they get flamed for not figuring it out for themselves. Something I'm also sensing from your post.
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#1: NEVER do anything without ***UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS FIRST***. If you don't understand, then how can you possibly adapt to inaccuracies/errors/failures? The answer is that you CAN'T.
4. I've gotten past my initial problem. This morning I was shown another DREAIMG.nbh file from another source, and I was able to get it on the phone and get it to boot. I've since gone through the root process (using the guide posted above), but I still can't get it into recovery mode. So that's where I'm now stuck.
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Define "can't get it into recovery". WHAT recovery do you have installed? The stock one that came with the NBH? Or some OTHER recovery that you installed? You say that it boots into the OS now? Congratulations. DO NOT INSTALL ANOTHER NBH FILE EVER!
What you need to do is install an engineering SPL, and NOT 1.33.2005! Try 1.33.2003.
You can then flash anything you like using FASTBOOT.
5. As opposed to a bunch of steps some retard spewed on a "message board"? All of the guides I've gone through were either on or linked to from this forum or the cyanogenmod forum. Both I assume reputable sources for this type of thing.
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A forum filters out the retard posts because 100 different people CALL the retard out! A *BLOG* is TRASH unless you absolutely know that the author REALLY KNOWS what he's doing. And in this case, YOU DON'T.
Note: I think you need to show me another guide because what you're saying contradicts everything I've seen.
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I don't write guides. I INFORM.
Note2: Don't know. Everything I've seen says I have to go back to 1.4 to be able to root it because the security holes were closed in 1.6.
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The TELNET-ROOT bug was fixed. That's all!
And FYI: There was never a 1.4. 1.0->1.1->1.5->1.6->2.0->2.0.1->2.1->[future]2.2
The phone is again back to the 1.4 image from the nbh file. I've tried to root it and get it to recovery mode without any luck, so I could use some guidance on what to do from here. I'm not really sure what adb logcat is or why I'd want to do it.
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Again, what did you do to get there?

I can see that this can quickly escalate into an unnecessary back and forth argument. So to avoid that how about I tell you what I've done and where I'm at currently, and you can inform me on what to do to get to my goal?
From what I've seen I had to essentially do the following things:
1. downgrade to RC29
2. root
3. upgrade radio and SPL
4. Install ROM to get to 2.1
What I've done:
1. Formatted my sdcard to fat32, and put the DREAIMG.nbh file on the root of the sdcard.
2. Shutdown. Start up the phone holding the camera button. Got to the gray screen to update, pressed the power button to update.
3. Update successful. Rebooted by pressing call, menu, and power buttons.
4. Went through the setup wizard to set up the phone with my google account.
5. Installed telnet application from the market.
6. Downloaded recovery.img and spl-signed.zip (Danger SPL) and put them on the root of the sdcard.
7. From home screen, pressed enter twice. Typed telnetd.
8. Opened telnet application. Typed the following commands:
Code:
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd sdcard
flash_image recovery recovery.img
cat recovery.img > /system/recovery.img/CODE]
9. Shut down phone. Held down the home button while powering phone on in attempt to get to recovery mode.
10. Phone did not go into recovery mode, but went to this image on the screen: (can't post links, so fix the url)
hxxp:// www .modmygphone.com/wiki/images/1/1b/Howtofirm1.png
Currently, the phone is showing the following:
Firmware version 1.0
Baseband version 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
kernel version 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 [email protected] #6
Build number kkila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247 ota-rel-keys,release-keys
What exactly do I need to do from here to get a 2.1 rom installed?

TalioGladius said:
I can see that this can quickly escalate into an unnecessary back and forth argument. So to avoid that how about I tell you what I've done and where I'm at currently, and you can inform me on what to do to get to my goal?
From what I've seen I had to essentially do the following things:
1. downgrade to RC29
2. root
3. upgrade radio and SPL
4. Install ROM to get to 2.1
What I've done:
1. Formatted my sdcard to fat32, and put the DREAIMG.nbh file on the root of the sdcard.
2. Shutdown. Start up the phone holding the camera button. Got to the gray screen to update, pressed the power button to update.
3. Update successful. Rebooted by pressing call, menu, and power buttons.
4. Went through the setup wizard to set up the phone with my google account.
5. Installed telnet application from the market.
6. Downloaded recovery.img and spl-signed.zip (Danger SPL) and put them on the root of the sdcard.
7. From home screen, pressed enter twice. Typed telnetd.
8. Opened telnet application. Typed the following commands:
Code:
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd sdcard
flash_image recovery recovery.img
cat recovery.img > /system/recovery.img/CODE]
9. Shut down phone. Held down the home button while powering phone on in attempt to get to recovery mode.
10. Phone did not go into recovery mode, but went to this image on the screen: (can't post links, so fix the url)
hxxp:// www .modmygphone.com/wiki/images/1/1b/Howtofirm1.png
Currently, the phone is showing the following:
Firmware version 1.0
Baseband version 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
kernel version 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 [email protected] #6
Build number kkila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247 ota-rel-keys,release-keys
What exactly do I need to do from here to get a 2.1 rom installed?[/QUOTE]
First you need to be really carefull with the danger spl (make sure you have the right radio installed before installing that spl or bye bye to your phone). You need to install Amon Ra's new recovery. Put 2.1 on sd card. Wipe and flash.
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supremeteam256 said:
First you need to be really carefull with the danger spl (make sure you have the right radio installed before installing that spl or bye bye to your phone). You need to install Amon Ra's new recovery. Put 2.1 on sd card. Wipe and flash.
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I got the radio upgraded to 2.22.29.26I.
Turns out I have to hit alt-l to get past the ! screen in recovery mode. So now I should be able to install the danger spl, and then the rom, right?
The one I'm seeing with the guide is Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1.

TalioGladius said:
I got the radio upgraded to 2.22.29.26I.
Turns out I have to hit alt-l to get past the ! screen in recovery mode. So now I should be able to install the danger spl, and then the rom, right?
The one I'm seeing with the guide is Cyanogenmod 4.2.15.1.
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To be honest I would flash Amon Ra's new recovery first so you can flash the danger spl and then the rom without a reboot in between. And if you want to install that version of cyanogen you really don't need the danger spl, but if you want to jump up to his 5.0.7 Test5 you'll need to (thats the 2.1 version).

If you want to avoid bricks, you really should NEVER go straight from 0.95.x000 SPL --> 1.33.2005 SPL. The reason for this is that there is no way to make that jump without using recovery, and since those SPLs are so different from each other, it has to use the cache-->update-hboot-->recovery-wipe-cache approach, which is where bricks come from.
If you have a 0.95.x000 SPL and want to go to 1.33.2005, you FIRST go to 1.33.2003 (that's a THREE) using recovery (since 0.95.x000 and 1.33.2003 have equal compatibility) -- this opens up the door for using FASTBOOT to flash your SPL. The move between ANY pair of engineering SPLs using fastboot is guaranteed safe since it can never get stuck in a failed boot-recovery (brick).

Newb Questions

Hey folks,
I have a couple of question before rooting, i was going to use regaw_leinad 2.1 guide unless anyone has a better suggestion ?
1. By rooting my phone am I removing the standard ROM or just making it that I can edit it?
2. How does one install a new ROM for example the ALOYSIUS 2.1 looks great but i haven't a clue what to do?
Any help is much appreciated

thatenglishguy said:
I have a couple of question before rooting, i was going to use regaw_leinad 2.1 guide unless anyone has a better suggestion ?
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Yeah, that's what I do.
thatenglishguy said:
1. By rooting my phone am I removing the standard ROM or just making it that I can edit it?
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There are 2 parts to what you are doing. You are gaining root access, and then you are using that access the write a new recovery image to your phone. You may keep the standard ROM.
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2. How does one install a new ROM for example the ALOYSIUS 2.1 looks great but i haven't a clue what to do?
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You install new ROMs using the recovery image you installed while rooting your phone. Copy the .zip file(s) for the ROM you want to flash to the root directory of your sdcard. Boot to recovery by holding the HOME key while you press the power button. In recovery, you have the option to backup your existing ROM and to install a new one.

Thanks
Awesome, thank you v much indeed.

I have rooted my phone with Regaw's instructions, and it was very straight-forward.
1.) When you root your phone, you have a special recovery image that you can boot the phone into, and basically back up/restore your phone in case you decide to flash different roms and didn't like it, or you screwed up somewhere along the way. You can toggle the usb function, meaning you can use a terminal emulator (command prompt for windows) and move files between your pc and the phone while in recovery. You can theme your phone, can remove unwanted apps, use apps from the market that require you to have root access.
The simplest reason; to have full control of your phone.
2.) When you aquire root on your phone and able to boot into recovery and such, you can take the zip file that the rom was created in, and transfer it to the root of your sd card. Then you can either A) Open the command prompt, type in adb shell then type in reboot recovery while the phone is plugged in with the pc. The phone will reboot into recovery. B) Just power off the phone completely, then press and hold the home key and turn the phone on until you get to the recovery screen. From there you will need to backup your phone if you haven't already. Select backup/restore, then select nand backup. It will take a few minutes for this process to complete. When finished, you can go back to the main screen, and select wipe. Then select wipe data/factory reset. Press the home key to confirm. Go back and select wipe Dalvik-cache.
When done, go back to the main screen and select flash zip from sdcard. Scroll to the rom that you put in and select it. It should take a couple minutes to flash the new rom on your phone. When it's finished, you need to reboot your phone. The reboot process will take about 5-10 minutes depending on the type of rom that you flashed.
A few tips:
*Once you root, you have voided your warranty for the phone. But have no fear! Make sure you save your sdcard to your PC and run the RUU before bringing the phone for service if you need to. When service is done, you may transfer your sdcard contents from the pc back to your phone, do a quick root, and you are good to go.
*When wiping, your phone will be factory reset, meaning you have to sign into google again, redownload all your apps from the market if you have any.
*If you do like the rom of your choice, try to tweak it out the best you can, then do a nandroid (backup your phone) just in case you flash another rom. If you flash a second or third rom or whatever and didnt like it, you may do a restore on your phone, and all your info will be saved from the last nandroid you made. Be careful on how many nandroid you do. It takes up space on your sdcard. You may rename your nandroids, and remove the ones you don't want.
*The battery may get hot when flashing roms. This is normal, just try not to over do it.
*This Hero CDMA forum is now your best friend. Read and search, read and search before posting a question. Not that we don't mind answering questions, but if it has been asked 50 times, some people will give you snarky comments.
Good luck!

thanks , one more thing
Very helpful and I have successfully rooted my Hero !
Now regarding the new ROM I have downloaded the Zip file do I just copy the whole thing onto my phones sd card? If so where into the Nandroid folder?
Or do I run it using CMD from my laptop and if so know of any guides on how?
Thanks again, muchly appreciated
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Easiest way is you mount your phone to pc via usb, and just drop the zip file onto the root of your sdcard. Do not place the zip file anywhere else, or in any folder, just in the sdcard itself. Remount the phone, reboot into recovery, and select flash zip. Your rom should be in there to flash.

A wise man once said, "You've taken your first step into a larger world."

So happy you guys were nice with helping him. I'm finally making my switch to Android (in 3.5hrs). I can't wait to get home and root and figure it all out. Seems a TAD more difficult than it was with WinMo. There's SOOOOOO much info here, it's difficult to figure out WHERE start. But this thread helped at least figure out WHICH guide to follow initially.