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what to do after you downgrade to RC29

I wannna know what is the right thing to do after you downgrade to Rc29 as in
Keeping your phone up to date to instal the latest cyanogenmod
Cuz it seems to me that everytime I do my mods there is always something wrong
Little but wrong ya know I want my phone to run as good as it can .
I'm currently running RC29 US (not rooted no mods at all)
Just waiting to see what's the best thing to do
Thx in advance

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563679
Follow this to the T.

What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?

Haykuros SPL repartitions the phone so the System and Data partitions are both ~90mb
The bigger partition allows you to install bigger roms such as Hero
However, the HaykuroSPL has a high chance of bricking your phone permanently if you dont know what your doing....
The most important thing is to flash the 26I radio before the SPL
However, you can install the HardSPL now and install the HaykuroSPL when you feel your read

Zixx said:
What's the difference bewtween hard spl and haykuros special spl somehow I like hykuros better but I don't really know the difference and you think I can use haykuros spl instead of the hard spl while following that guide?
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The death spl is the saphires spl. People load it on the g1's to be able to load a hero rom because the hero roms are bigger needing more space. When you load it on the phone it resizes the partitions to make more space. Thats the reason why you have to flash a rom right after the spl because it overwrites the existing rom. If I were you I would load hard spl first to get the hang of everything then try the danger spl. Many people have bricked there phone due to that spl, but if you do try it don't take any shortcuts and read read read.

What to do,what to do?
Well...I would advise you follow a tutorial or go to youtube and follow a video or video's on how to root and all that happy horsecrap.That's how I did it my first time. I watched videos,watched how others did it and then copied what they did on my phone. I successfully came out of it rooted,with the updated radio,Haykuro's SPL, and a Hero ROM that I could depend on at that time.Since then I have flashed so many different ROM's I can't even count all of them anymore. I would definitely root the phone first though. Possibly call T-MO and ask them for an unlock code for the phone as well as that will let you travel overseas with the phone and use it on other carriers too. Rooting is the way to go with the G1 nowadays. A whole new world opens up to you once the phone is rooted! Anyways...good luck at your beginning and keep up the work. If you end up bricking your phone,call T-MO and tell em one of their updates bricked your phone and you want a new one. Take it slow and do things right though man!

need help fellas... i made a mistake n cant fix it?

i was rooting a friends g1, i missed a step n tried flashing a rom without having the danger spl installed first, i cant get into my spl menu by holding camera and power nor can i get into my recovery nor can i get into adb... my phone turns on and stays at the g1 logo... any advice?

bricked.. look in the development section for un-bricking guides... although it'll cost some money i think.. i'll look for one myself and post back with a link
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576628&highlight=brick
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
maybe those could help... Good luck!

madunix said:
i was rooting a friends g1, i missed a step n tried flashing a rom without having the danger spl installed first, i cant get into my spl menu by holding camera and power nor can i get into my recovery nor can i get into adb... my phone turns on and stays at the g1 logo... any advice?
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that is why i dont screw around with other peoples phones LOL

i just checked my sdcard that was in the phone, the update.zip file is the danger spl. im guessing i flashed that? but i dont get why that would brick anything.. the phone was rooted... but i had the factory recovery where u see that pic in the middle, i hit alt w? or alt s i forget what the instructions were i was following. soo its a brick huh? no way of getting through this one?

madunix said:
i just checked my sdcard that was in the phone, the update.zip file is the danger spl. im guessing i flashed that? but i dont get why that would brick anything.. the phone was rooted... but i had the factory recovery where u see that pic in the middle, i hit alt w? or alt s i forget what the instructions were i was following. soo its a brick huh? no way of getting through this one?
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Just because the phone is rooted doesn't mean it is magical and can't be bricked. You have to have the latest radio before you can flash the danger SPL. Depending on which method you used(likely RC29 method) that radio would not be anywhere close to what is needed. And, yes, once you flash the danger SPL without the newest radio, you have a brick and no way getting back from it.
Hopefully your friend is understanding and it isn't a major disaster getting a replacement G1 for him.

Flash Danger SPL without Latest Radio = Bricked.
I hope that your friend can get a replacement without much complications, because that one is screwed.

You could give him your phone...

the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?

madunix said:
the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?
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Most likely yes usually when something is brand new it was manufactured months ago. Its unlikely that it included the proper radio. try blaming your friend lol good luck!

madunix said:
the phone already had the newest radio installed... it was a brand new G1.. =X did i still have to flash it with the radio on this forums?
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Brand new or not, most every root method has you downgrade to RC29, which takes you back to a radio that is about a year old now.

flashing to a new rom

Hi all i am new to this got my first HTC Touch HD today
looking at the roms theres a few i like just got a few questions.
what is the best to use HSPL or USPL?
will flashing a new rom mess up my sim lock?
When it says donate whast the normal to donate? dont want to give to little
thanks about it
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings

HSPL sits in ur rom permanently whereas USPL opens the loop once. That means flashing each time u need to use USPL
U need to read this guide fully to understand and make ur choice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
People donate as low as US$ 5 whereas donating US$ 10 is a good amount to start with. Flash different rom's and make ur choice which author u like more. Then u can donate a higher amount if u like that author's creation. I am a big fan of Energy's pheonix rom.
Regarding SIM lock. Flashing rom doesnt mess with ur SIM lock or unlock feature and if ur sim is locked u can open it with olipro's tool. Try searching it in the forum.
It all depends on u what flashing method u choose, how much u donate and which rom meets ur needs....
Welcome to XDA and have a great time here.
BEWARE: Flashing ur phones makes ur phone look much cooler and sexier and u will madly fall in love with ur Touch HD once u find ur perfect rom
HAVE A GREAT STAY....

Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings

also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
thanks again

hemmjonny said:
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
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HSPL is one written to the handset. USPL isn't written to the handset, the files are sent to the handset when used and it loads another SPL on top of the existing one which is lost when the handset is rebooted (i.e. when the ROM has been installed).
I personally use USPL so I can keep the stock SPL as installed by HTC. Some prefer the HSPL as they don't have to use USPL everytime they want to flash.
I'd probably start with USPL and if you find you flash more often, change to HSPL. Apparently though, HSPL provides more protection against a bad flash - unsure what it does though as I've never used it
It doesn't matter what SPL you use though, once a ROM is flashed to the phone, it stays there until you flash another.
hemmjonny said:
also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
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I'm unsure of any way to backup an existing ROM. I'd take a look on HTC's website as they may have an updated stock ROM available for download. I keep that one as my stock ROM to revert to after a couple of custom ROM flashes.

hemmjonny said:
Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
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Factory SPL is preventing you to flash any ROM made for another region or another language. Sometimes there are specific ROMs, made by HTC for certain providers, and SPL takes care to allow you only to flash an official upgrade for the same provider or the same region.
If you wish to flash a cooked ROM, you need to circumvent this protection in the SPL.
USPL makes a loophole in your existing SPL and it will allow flashing (now I see jonifen has explained it better). However, that loophole will disappear after the hard reset. Whenever you decide to flash another ROM, yo'll have to repeat USPL. The advantage is that you keep your official SPL.
HSPL is completely replacing your SPL with a new one, and the new one is slightly changed by OliNex: it always let you flash any ROM you want.
Hard reset will not affect it, as hard resets do not replace or wipe the ROM, SPL or the radio, they only wipe all your data and all 3rd party applications installed by you.

Thanks for all the info i am now flashing i have gone for HSPL as my phone is out of warranty + its lots easier + more stable from what i have read on here.
Thanks again for all your help
Jonathan

[Q] Which compatible radio

First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q

jilee said:
First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q
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Ok, to be successful. You will need to FLASH the radio before the SPL.
You can find both the radio and SPL here http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
DO NOT attempt to downgrade your radio at anytime after installing this SPL as it WILL brick your phone.
If you have additional questions you can read up on the thread here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Please make sure you read all the posts first before you flash your phone. I hope that helped.

ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)

jilee said:
ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)
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Splash screen can be changed. To check go to bootloader, power on the phone holding camera button and see what do you have..it will show if you have 32A or 32B board.
1.33.2003 is compatible with 1.x and 2.x radios
1.33.2005 is compatible with 2.x and 3.x radios
So 2.x radio is safest. The combination has to be maintained otherwise you can brick the phone.

DO NOT INSTALL DEATHSPL!!!!
There is NO REASON for it!
What people use it for is obtaining a different flash partition layout on the internal memory. THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
The DEFAULT setup of this yields you a SYSTEM partition that is the SAME SIZE as deathspl, and a USERDATA partition that is ***FIFTEEN MEGABYTES LARGER*** than deathspl.
Install SPL 1.33.2003 (ending with a THREE) and any 2.X radio ***IN ANY ORDER IT DOESN'T MATTER***. ZERO brick risk, and SUPERIOR to deathspl.
Further information;
1) PVT/DVT, DESPITE what some of the feeble minded morons who don't know what they're talking about claim, ****IS IRRELEVANT****. There is *NO DIFFERENCE* between a PVT and a DVT.
2) ALL DREAMS (100% there is not a SINGLE exception) are 32B. The ONLY device where there is any question of whether it is a 32A or B is MAGIC.

Thanks so much lbcoder
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms. And flashing radio and spl somehow is the most risky step :|
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order? Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ? And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
^^ Thanks again

It doesn't appear that you bothered to read either what I said or the thread I linked you to. READ AGAIN!
There is NO BENEFIT TO DEATHSPL. It does NOTHING USEFUL. There are BETTER WAYS to accomplish the same thing that do NOT involve ANY kind of RISK!
jilee said:
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms.
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Anyone who things that is WRONG.
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order?
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No. That is not a guide! It is a PROCESS, which has NOTHING to do with flashing radios or SPLs! It has to do with PARTITION TABLES.
Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
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The SPL has NOTHING to do with what you can flash to the phone. You do NOT need deathSPL. It is POINTLESS. The ONLY thing you accomplish with the deathSPL is that you RISK BRICKING YOUR PHONE!
I suggest the 1.33.2003 SPL because it is a FULL ENGINEERING SPL that is 100% compatible with 0.95.x000 (the SPL that your phone SHIPPED WITH). **IT WILL NOT BRICK**.
Using the recovery-installable patches supplied by Firerat will enable you to flash ANY system image to your phone. NO EXCEPTION.

Ok ok. I am a stupid man, so please don't blame on me ^^
Let me ask a very last question. As i can see from your advise, after flashing those CustomMTD, i can flash ANY system image(ROMs) to my phone without upgrading to 2.xx or the pointless dealthy spl. Is it right? In other words, i still can use CM or CE roms with 0.95.x000 radio?
And is it harmful or not if i want to upgrade to 2.xx radio? (still want smth new :"> )

well, no one ?

0.95.x000 is default SPL, not radio.
You have to flash new SPL (if you're still on default), but not Haykuro/Death/Danger/Apocalipse (1.33.2005) which is not compatible with 1.x radios (and this is common reason of brick), but so called SafeSPL (1.33.2003) which has same low-level access to phone (fastboot, so it's giving you as much as 2005), but it is compatible either with 1.x radios and 2.x radios, so there is no chance to brick.
After you have engineering SPL (2003 or 2005, but in this case we're talking about 2003) you can use MTD Partition Hack to change partition layout on your phone (same thing that is Haykuro doing, but now you can manually resize them in order to get more place for apps in internal memory). This is needed for 2.1+ and Sense ROMs, because they do not fit in standard 70 mb /system partition (they need 90).
When you have both new SPL and /system big enough, you can flash EVERY ROM you want. If there is requirement for HaykuroSPL in OP of ROM thread, IGNORE IT. This is requirement for 90mb /system partition, which now can be achieved also by MTD PH.
Upgrading to 2.x radio is recommended, new radio means better signal reception and less battery drain.

Thank you very much raven. Your answer is very clear and kindly. So, now I have to flash SafeSPL, then MTD PH, and after that I can use any ROMs, and 2.x radio are optional (can flash or not, can flash after the safespl, it doesnt matter) right? I am so excited. Thanks again

I think this order is correct:
Custom recovery (Amon RA or Clockworkmod, ignore this step if you already have custom recovery)
SafeSPL
MTD PH (recovery patch)
ROM flash
MTD PH (ROM/boot patch)
Optional: 2.x radio.
I am glad to help and your thanks made my day . Just remember to put
Code:
90 2
in mtdpartmap.txt on root of sd card to prepare enough space for 2.x ROMs. You may also have to fake Haykuro SPL, which is simply done by editing mtdpartmap.txt in this way
Code:
90 2
spl 1.33.2005
Remember to patch recovery, wipe data&cache&system, reflash/nandbackup ROM and flash boot patch after every change in mtdpartmap.txt.

Thanks again ^^
But i still have a minor question before flashing all those stuffs. Raven please view this post :here and give me an advice whether i should continue according to lbcoder or not ?

quite useful infos. i was about to flash deathSPL, but the fact that the MTD layout gives me 15mb more space, not to mention it cant brick, seriously tempts me.

[Q] G1 Radio for Cyanogen CM6-DS

What is the latest Radio Update for the G1 that i can use so i can make sure im getting the best possible connection cause i just got the unlimited data plan today, and i wanna make sure it as great as possible, thx

2.22.28.25 but you will need to flash a perfected spl to avoid brick.

umm its for usa t-mobile g1/dream phones rite? and if so where is the page? and where is this spl

Yes, it is for USA G1 and I have tested it before. I do not use it anymore because it is a perfected SPL and I find it annoying to not be able to use all the functions of fastboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139&highlight=2708
Please read the instructions thoroughly. If your device does not boot after applying update, then i will link you to a dreaimg.nbh to return to rc29 to root, and flash your custom rom again.

did you use it on CM6-DS? or what rom did u use it on? and is it better than the 2.22.23.02 radio?

I feel it is about the same.. The reception is the same except for the extra 15mb memory available, there really isn't a difference. It's not worth it for me giving up the danger-SPL with all the fastboot functions for the perfected SPL with only 2 options.
I used it on CM6.1-DS.