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why does haykuro's spl make you brick?

I was just wondering myself, I didn't brick when I flashes somehow by the grace of God. I updated the radio on accident through the JF updater when I was running 1.5 with the old radio.

I'm sorry but i don't really understand the question.
It seems like you didn't brick because you installed the radio first, and you did things right.

double post sorry.

I'm still a noob but this is what I remember reading in a few threads all over. I don't know if there was a definitve cause found. I do remember that the concensus (sp) is that most of the phones that had problems seemed to be of the "dvt" type as apposed to the "pvt" type. I don't know what the difference is (I'll be looking it up), but, you can find out what yours is by booting to the bootloader (press cam+power). You'll get a screen with androids on skateboards. You will see either pvt or dvt. Mine is pvt. I had no problems with the "Danger" SPL.

Oh... And most of the pvt problems were probably caused by not updating the radio before adding the new SPL.

o i c. like i said i had no issues with it. and i knew that updateing the spl b4 the radio will make you brick. i was wondering what would cause that

i think he is asking because next to the download it says it has caused bricks

It has to do with the boot order 1. radio > 2. spl > 3. boot.img. Without the right radio then the spl can't load causing the phone not to boot.

desperate plea for help

if anyone here who lives in Toronto ON that can fix my HTC rogers dream , please let me know im willing to pay in beer or straight cash, long story short
i get htc dream with 1.5 , i want to update to 1.6, my friend makes recovery image and puts on nandroid v2.2 and at bottom it says " build: cyanogenMod V1.4 + JF", console doesnt work, and he tried flashing via the update.zip , and since then its never gotten past the rogers splash screen. on the camera+power menu it shows the following
DREAM PVT 32B SHIP S-ON d
HBOOT -1.33.0009 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO -3.22.20.17
May 12 2009 , 17:05:58
HBOOT
<SEND> fastboot mode
me and Ace 42 spent the last 2 days trying to fix this problem, we tried updating the "dreaimg.nbh " or w.e its called file and then we tried loading rogers htc dream roms found on this website, and it still wouldnt boot... im fearing the worst , as i cant get into console, the screen goes from
{
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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to just the black background with the android logo and the writing " build cyanogenMod v1.4 + JF" and its unresponsive, only way is to pull battery,
also now the fastboot menu says
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT -1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.20.17
APR 20, 2009 15:30:43
HBOOT
<SEND> fastboot mode
also the icons on the bottom are skateboards with the little green android guys ( before and after hboot changed)...
ok so now ace42 told me he thinks the only option left is to flash the radio, but he said theres a 50/50 chance it might permanently brick the phone since its downgrading ( i think i dont exactly remember what he said) ill get him to chime in here and say his side of this whole situation.
honestly i just want android 1.5 back, no fancy custom stuff, OR android 1.6 and as long as it works normally ill be quite happy and never touch this updating fiasco every again....

Looks to me like you flashed the danger SPL without updating to the 26I radio. I am pretty sure you own a paperweight.

please.. i dont want to hear that

ummm
you are gunna have to do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350&highlight=stock+firmware
then after you do that, just either go to your settings and search for updates or root and get a CM rom

After re-reading you post, I am really not positive. I didn't notice you were using a rogers phone. The radio might be different. Hopefully someone with a rogers phone can confirm their radio with yours.

do you have another nandroid backup? if so... when you press camera+power, go into fastboot mode and fastboot flash system.img...etc, if not use fastboot to flash another update.zip

So after checking out some sigs from other Rogers users...they have the 26I radio with the 1.33.2005 SPL...so yea...I fear the worst for you. Good luck tho.

nandroid backup of the OS when the phone was working?? no i accidentally pressed the backup choice and it overwrote the original recovery with a nonworking rom

sockpuppet4 said:
So after checking out some sigs from other Rogers users...they have the 26I radio with the 1.33.2005 SPL...so yea...I fear the worst for you. Good luck tho.
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, this is a ******* nightmare.. i dont have money for a new phone and i needed this phone for work...
cant i update or change SPL then change radio?
wait, my radio didnt change at all from the beginning to right now???
just the SPL... :|

32adream said:
, this is a ******* nightmare.. i dont have money for a new phone and i needed this phone for work...
cant i update or change SPL then change radio?
wait, my radio didnt change at all from the beginning to right now???
just the SPL... :|
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Sorry man, it happens. Good luck to you. Maybe try and brick it all the way and get your warranty fix.

cant.. bought it second hand...

*checked spl & radio versions
*attempted to flash cyan mod
*tried micro hero
*tried regular rogers build by enomther
*console but was unable to acess
*was gonna try to flash dreaimg-rc29 but it contains older radio

ok so you can get into recovery and fastboot?

yes i can get into recovery and fastboot.

lol... chill.. this is NOT an spl brick. Sounds like your recovery image could be corrupt from a bad flash, but that's perfectly fixable. You know how to use fastboot from your pc, right? If not there are plenty of guides around here.. use fastboot to flash either cyanogen's recovery or amon_ra's.. from there, follow instructions to install CM 4.2 here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrading_From_Older_CyanogenMod_Versions
Just don't flash that old radio.. thats not a 50/50 chance of brick, that's 100% cast-iron brick.
ITT: n00bs scaring n00bs.

ace42 helped me alot, i dont think he is a noob
ok from what you said, im gonna need step by step instructions on how to access fastboot from my pc. :| goldenarmz do you have gmail chat or msn??

I can't do a live chat atm, but I'm feeling helpful so I'll try to talk you through it here.. I'm just reading up on the rogers dream rooting process to try and see where you're at.
While you wait, download and indstall the android 1.6 sdk from here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
You don't need to download eclipse or set up the adt, just get the SDK installed with the tools path defined.
I'm assuming you're on windows btw?

yep, windows xp

OK I think I can see where you've gone wrong. You need to have the rom you want to flash on your sdcard (im assuming its still there from your earlier tries), and you need to download givemeroot.zip to your pc:
http://www.stevebirstok.com/android/givemeroot.zip
Let me know when you've got the SDK installed and we can proceed..

i was on the other computer, im doing all this from my laptop since the usb ports are right in front of me, i actually do have the sdk, and i dont think i have the rom i want . i just want a plain android 1.6 thats optimized for the htc dream. and now its updating the sdk

[Q] Which compatible radio

First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q

jilee said:
First of all, i am very sorry if i made a stupid Question because of my noobs. But i am preparing to flash DangerSPL onto my G1, and still dont know which radio should be chosen. I've been spending hours reading info from several posts on xda but cant find answer yet
There are two radios compatible with DangerSPL
2.22.23.02 for T-mobile/US
2.22.19.26i for Non-US
My current radio is 2.22.20.23
That's what I can't get through. My G1 is a QWERTZ one, which I guess it's a Non-US and 2.22.19.26i is better for me? But the first one is mentioned much more frequently in posts, means it's famous/or better than the other?
Please help me figure out
Thanks very much, and sorry again for my stupid Q
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Ok, to be successful. You will need to FLASH the radio before the SPL.
You can find both the radio and SPL here http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
DO NOT attempt to downgrade your radio at anytime after installing this SPL as it WILL brick your phone.
If you have additional questions you can read up on the thread here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Please make sure you read all the posts first before you flash your phone. I hope that helped.

ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)

jilee said:
ok thanks much for your help
But those stuffs have been reading over and over by me, and i still can't find out which radio should i flash. The 2.22.23.02 (which refers to smth more common and used by more people) or the 2.22.19.26i ? The sapphire-port-dream website says that the 26i is the latest version
This my first time flashing radio and upgrading to DangerSPL, so i'm very scared of bricking =.= Can you figure out for me which one is for my phone ? Thanks ^^
BTW, my board is a PVT one, rooted, but the very first bootscreen contains a grey and blur G1 in the center and a "T-mobile" (with the red T and four white dots like in the logo of T-mobile) at the bottom of the screen. It's not the all-white-big-centered "T-mobile G1" like most of those i see on the google or youtube. Is there anything important ?
(I can't post images along with this bcause of the new member's restricted right, so i will attact them instead. The worse quality one is mine)
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Splash screen can be changed. To check go to bootloader, power on the phone holding camera button and see what do you have..it will show if you have 32A or 32B board.
1.33.2003 is compatible with 1.x and 2.x radios
1.33.2005 is compatible with 2.x and 3.x radios
So 2.x radio is safest. The combination has to be maintained otherwise you can brick the phone.

DO NOT INSTALL DEATHSPL!!!!
There is NO REASON for it!
What people use it for is obtaining a different flash partition layout on the internal memory. THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
The DEFAULT setup of this yields you a SYSTEM partition that is the SAME SIZE as deathspl, and a USERDATA partition that is ***FIFTEEN MEGABYTES LARGER*** than deathspl.
Install SPL 1.33.2003 (ending with a THREE) and any 2.X radio ***IN ANY ORDER IT DOESN'T MATTER***. ZERO brick risk, and SUPERIOR to deathspl.
Further information;
1) PVT/DVT, DESPITE what some of the feeble minded morons who don't know what they're talking about claim, ****IS IRRELEVANT****. There is *NO DIFFERENCE* between a PVT and a DVT.
2) ALL DREAMS (100% there is not a SINGLE exception) are 32B. The ONLY device where there is any question of whether it is a 32A or B is MAGIC.

Thanks so much lbcoder
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms. And flashing radio and spl somehow is the most risky step :|
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order? Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ? And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
^^ Thanks again

It doesn't appear that you bothered to read either what I said or the thread I linked you to. READ AGAIN!
There is NO BENEFIT TO DEATHSPL. It does NOTHING USEFUL. There are BETTER WAYS to accomplish the same thing that do NOT involve ANY kind of RISK!
jilee said:
It's because i think that deathspl is the only hope in order to get to Cyanogen or CaNNoN roms.
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Anyone who things that is WRONG.
Did you mean that, by following that Firerat's guide, i am enabled to flash SPL 1.33.2003 and radio 2.xx in any order?
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No. That is not a guide! It is a PROCESS, which has NOTHING to do with flashing radios or SPLs! It has to do with PARTITION TABLES.
Is 1.33.2003 deathspl or not ?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
And i want to flash CaNNoN CE 2.2.1, so is this good for me
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The SPL has NOTHING to do with what you can flash to the phone. You do NOT need deathSPL. It is POINTLESS. The ONLY thing you accomplish with the deathSPL is that you RISK BRICKING YOUR PHONE!
I suggest the 1.33.2003 SPL because it is a FULL ENGINEERING SPL that is 100% compatible with 0.95.x000 (the SPL that your phone SHIPPED WITH). **IT WILL NOT BRICK**.
Using the recovery-installable patches supplied by Firerat will enable you to flash ANY system image to your phone. NO EXCEPTION.

Ok ok. I am a stupid man, so please don't blame on me ^^
Let me ask a very last question. As i can see from your advise, after flashing those CustomMTD, i can flash ANY system image(ROMs) to my phone without upgrading to 2.xx or the pointless dealthy spl. Is it right? In other words, i still can use CM or CE roms with 0.95.x000 radio?
And is it harmful or not if i want to upgrade to 2.xx radio? (still want smth new :"> )

well, no one ?

0.95.x000 is default SPL, not radio.
You have to flash new SPL (if you're still on default), but not Haykuro/Death/Danger/Apocalipse (1.33.2005) which is not compatible with 1.x radios (and this is common reason of brick), but so called SafeSPL (1.33.2003) which has same low-level access to phone (fastboot, so it's giving you as much as 2005), but it is compatible either with 1.x radios and 2.x radios, so there is no chance to brick.
After you have engineering SPL (2003 or 2005, but in this case we're talking about 2003) you can use MTD Partition Hack to change partition layout on your phone (same thing that is Haykuro doing, but now you can manually resize them in order to get more place for apps in internal memory). This is needed for 2.1+ and Sense ROMs, because they do not fit in standard 70 mb /system partition (they need 90).
When you have both new SPL and /system big enough, you can flash EVERY ROM you want. If there is requirement for HaykuroSPL in OP of ROM thread, IGNORE IT. This is requirement for 90mb /system partition, which now can be achieved also by MTD PH.
Upgrading to 2.x radio is recommended, new radio means better signal reception and less battery drain.

Thank you very much raven. Your answer is very clear and kindly. So, now I have to flash SafeSPL, then MTD PH, and after that I can use any ROMs, and 2.x radio are optional (can flash or not, can flash after the safespl, it doesnt matter) right? I am so excited. Thanks again

I think this order is correct:
Custom recovery (Amon RA or Clockworkmod, ignore this step if you already have custom recovery)
SafeSPL
MTD PH (recovery patch)
ROM flash
MTD PH (ROM/boot patch)
Optional: 2.x radio.
I am glad to help and your thanks made my day . Just remember to put
Code:
90 2
in mtdpartmap.txt on root of sd card to prepare enough space for 2.x ROMs. You may also have to fake Haykuro SPL, which is simply done by editing mtdpartmap.txt in this way
Code:
90 2
spl 1.33.2005
Remember to patch recovery, wipe data&cache&system, reflash/nandbackup ROM and flash boot patch after every change in mtdpartmap.txt.

Thanks again ^^
But i still have a minor question before flashing all those stuffs. Raven please view this post :here and give me an advice whether i should continue according to lbcoder or not ?

quite useful infos. i was about to flash deathSPL, but the fact that the MTD layout gives me 15mb more space, not to mention it cant brick, seriously tempts me.

[Q] Help updating my stock 1.22.12.29

I recently nearly bricked my US g1 when modding it due to SdCard issue (midway through flashing SD became unreadable). I have also had mny issues with the SD and a few keys which are testy...So I unrooted to send back to manufacturer. Turns out the SD card issues were fixed going back to stock and I can deal with the keys issue. Longer story short I was at stock with:
DREA100 PVT
1.22.12.29 - Radio
0.95.0000 - HBOOT
CPLD - 4
Baseband 62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Kern 2.6.29-00479-gc37df37
android [email protected] #19
DRC83
I manually updated my G1 because i waited three days for any OTA and needed my phone functional, Currently i'm at 1.6.
I'd like to update my SPL and radio and I have done the research... The only tutorial I could find that was as close to my case was for someone using a korean phone. I realize this is the part that could F my phone so I wanted to be as careful as possible. Another tut I found (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636945) starts off saying flash this 1.33.2005 SPL then someone immediatly says "For god sakes don't flash that SPL" So you can imagine my reasons for caution.
You guys have been great in the past and I appreciate any help. If I missed my exact sit on another post i'm sorry, understand I did search for two days but never found EXACTLY the same situation.

Before you go off updating SPL/radio, you might want to read these guide. Especially if you are going to start loading the custom ROMs.
[Guide] Root G1 stock 1.6/1.5 to 2708/2825 + 0013d and everything in between
How-to- Root, Hack, and Flashing your G1/Dream Read first!!

[Q] need some help

hello,
I hope someone could help me as i have no idea how to my G1 back to stock.
i tried to flash my g1 to an froyo build but i couldn't do anything anymore. now i try to get it back to stock rom.
the only thing i still can do on my phone is i can get into recovery mode...
i can't get to the rainbow screen.
i have an dutch G1 but i cant get any other of the specs anymore cause i dont know how to get them on this phone.
i hope someone could help me as i tried to search a lot on Google and XDA but i could not find anything related to this ****ty problem.
thanks in advance for the one who could help me.
greets Ollievssn

Power + Back takes you to recovery, too? Did you check whether your home button is stuck?

Power + Back also works.
but what can i do with this?
EDIT: i pluged in my USB cable and i saw it was Fastboot. But i still dont know what i can do with this

If you have a working fastboot mode, you can do almost everything, i.e.
- flashing a new recovery / rom
- flashing new radio / spl
- ...
A tutorial you can find here
Probably it's enough to flash a new rom to solve your problems. In that case, you should first select the rom you would like to run, then to flash the requirements (i.e. SPL, radio, etc.) and than the ROM.
What SPL / radio do you have installed? Can you post what's written on the fastboot screen?

The thing written (wrong spelling i guess) on my fastboot screen is:
DREA110 PVT 32b
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26 1 or I (i couldn't tell from the screen)
Oct 20 2008

Ok, you have installed the so called "HardSPL", which is a custom SPL which unfortunately doesn't allow you to flash recovery / radio / SPL using fastboot.
Now you have different possibilities:
1) keep your spl / radio and flash a rom which supports your SPL/radio. The old enomther roms, CM4/5 should work without problems
2) keep your spl / radio in combination with custom partition tables. In that case, you should be able to run CM6 or other Eclair/Froyo based roms, too.
3) Update your SPL and/or radio and you will be able to run all roms available for the G1
In your case, updating the SPL is to be done in recovery mode. This is a bit more risky that doing so in fastboot, because flashing is done while setting the "reboot into recovery" flag. If for some reason the recovery cannot be started correctly you will have a brick.
There are some tutorials here in the G1 area guiding you through these steps, unfortunately I don't have the links available at the moment, but if you search for it, you should find it easily.
Btw. if you really want to return to tock, you can also flash an original image ...

i really want to return to stock rom but i dont know how

There are some OTA images available which you can flash. The easiest way would be the "dreaimg.nbh", but this will give you only Android 1.1.
There are some other images available (at least one which give you Android 1.5), but at the moment I don't have the link. Additionally all the original roms do provide only a limited number of languages, so probably you need to check first, whether your language is supported by those ota-images ...
Probably tomorrow I will have a look whether I can provide you with a / some link(s).

That would be great.
but for now i will keep trying to find something, and thanks to your notes i probably will be able to find something