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I only have what came with the phone...it's a 2gb and its plenty enough space for now as long as it is a class 6. I'm sure I'll want more later on but I'd hate to waste the current one I have now. Is there an app that tests as card access speed?
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I only have what came with the phone...it's a 2gb and its plenty enough space for now as long as it is a class 6. I'm sure I'll want more later on but I'd hate to waste the current one I have now. Is there an app that tests as card access speed?
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Just look at the card, it has either a 2 or a 4 or a 6 in a circle stamped on it. Thats the class. The class = the number of MB/S it can transfer. A class 6, for example, transfers approximately 6mb / sec.
yeah I read about that but I'm pretty sure I would have figured that much out just by looking at it but there is no writing that implies class 2, 4 or 6 on it. It is a Sandisk 2gb card. Is there a program that can test it's access speed?
XwXDv8XwX said:
yeah I read about that but I'm pretty sure I would have figured that much out just by looking at it but there is no writing that implies class 2, 4 or 6 on it. It is a Sandisk 2gb card. Is there a program that can test it's access speed?
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Yeah, you can plug it into a pc with an adapter and check how fast you can write to it, but if its the one that came with the G1 it is probably a class 2. Get a Trancend class 6 from Amazon for like $20 us or so. Big difference. There should be a circle with a number on it on all sd micro cards, you may need a magnifying glass if your eyes are as as bad as like mine..
If it doesn't say, it's class 2.
XwXDv8XwX said:
yeah I read about that but I'm pretty sure I would have figured that much out just by looking at it but there is no writing that implies class 2, 4 or 6 on it. It is a Sandisk 2gb card. Is there a program that can test it's access speed?
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Yep, feel free to use this tool, h2test 1.4 - http://sharebee.com/b26bb1b8
Not only can you detect the read/write speeds but also if the memory card is a fake or not. If you've ever bought a memory card (most common being Mem Stick DUO PROs) and had less then great performance/storage then use this tool to test it.
Check out the readme to find out more.
yeah it's a class 2...kinda expected that because it's the card shipped with the phone. I used the app h2test to find this out. Thanx for helping me out here
Glad to have helped ^_^ Its a very useful tool all round and is part of my subset of tools I carry around with me on my usb stick.
mines doesn't say
2gb kingston microsd about $5
h2testw says about 7 MByte/s - write
but my class 4 card is only 4 MByte/s - write
???
can the g1 support a class 10 card, if it can what available microsd cards does it support? 8gb only im assuming..
All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
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100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
nicelad_uk said:
All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
Code:
100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
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quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
quite impressive
congrats mate for the new card
However, i guess it makes more sense if the larger card volume was a bit slower!
Anywayz, doesnt the bigger card have any negative effect on the battery in terms of consuming more power to mount the storage volume?
Interesting - I have a 16Gb Class 6 on it's way - should be here next week. I'll try and run the benchmarks for it and see if there is much difference.
would be nice if someone could try the class 2 sandisk 16 gb
how did you do the benchmark?
fards said:
quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
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PNY card class 4 - where from?
I too have a class 6 16GB card on it's way and I will post my bench's as soon as it gets...
I won't buy a higher one than my 8GB one till a 32GB is released -.-
gavinfabl said:
PNY card class 4 - where from?
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PLAY..
play.com here > >http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/11540450/PNY-16GB-Micro-SDHC-Memory-Card/Product.html
the article says class 2, the review says class 4. One of my friends bought one, his is class 4.
Obviously I won't know till mine arrives !
the PNY site isn't much help
http://www.pny.eu/products.php?section=product&categoryid=4&subcategoryid=54&productid=296
Sandisk 8gb class 4 test results (similar to the 16gb class 4)-
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 20.268 MB/s
Sequential Write : 16.100 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 19.866 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 3.009 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 4.124 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 0.028 MB/s
Test Size : 100 MB
an idea for you all..... check your local cash converter/pawn shop. i found a lot of micro sdhc card in there.
got my self a samsung 8GB class 6 for 12.00 pounds ! (with 1 year warranty)
they also had a 16gb class 2 for 22 pounds.
Two more cards
I was using the Sandisk USB to MicroSD adapter that ships with Sandisk cards.
I get the feeling that this is limiting the benchmark results
I get
Sandisk 8Gb Class 4
Read Write
SEQ: 19.69 13.19
512k: 19.26 2.337
4k: 3.601 0.021
Kingston 16Gb Class 2
Read Write
SEQ: 19.61 6.729
512k: 19.39 1.091
4k: 3.567 0.024
Sorry guys, but I don't get it. If you buy a card to use it with your Leo these tests are pretty irrelevant. I tested myself several cards, 2GB, 4GB and 16GB, class 2 and 4, both in my PC using ATTO benchmark and in my Leo. I came to the conclusion that a class 2 micro SD card is plenty fast enough when reading/writing with the Leo, so what is the point of spending a little fortune on class 6 cards? The Leo is no high-end DSLR you know...
Using happily a 16GB Sandisk that I purchased in my local PC shop for about 35 Euros. The Leo peaks at 5.2/8.6 MB/s write/read with this card. It did exactly the same with a class 4 4GB Toshiba card and a 2GB class 4 Kingston card. Tested using ATTO Disk Benchmark v. 234 on a core i7 system running Windows 7 64 bit OS.
In my view, the ATTO benchmark is reat because it gives you a speed snapshot at different file sizes, not just the peaks. I wonder what file size is used when manufacturers clasify their cards. Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
atomic_dude said:
Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
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I hear that, took ages to delete Igo8 off the SD card with all those small files
I prefer the faster cards, say class 4 or even a class 2 if it can perform like this current class 4 because I don't just use it in my phone. I use the card reader and transfer music / videos / pictures etc and with the clip battery cover, it only takes a minute to hot swap.
I know what you mean though, the phone does have limitations which make the cards only work to a certain speed, thats the same in most devices.
All in all though, nice to get some comparisons on here for people who want to know before they buy
16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
I was waiting for a 32gb card to be released but that doesn't look like it is going to happen any time soon...
So I am buying a 16gb card. I am going to be using the card in my phone only. Out of these 2 cards which would recommend -
16gb Kingston class 4 or a 16gb Peak class 6 (for a couple of pounds extra)
Part of me wants to go for the class 6 for the speed (but will I really notice it in a phone?) but on the other hand Kingston is a well known brand and I have never heard of Peak.
Thanks
What would you say is the minimum class that i could get a decent experience when playing music/movies and launching apps?
A class 2 card would do the job nicely.
Thanks, will probs get a class 2 16GB one
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16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
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Took your advice and bought the 16gb one you recommended from play too in the hope it was Class4. No idea what Class it actually is but its definately quicker than the previous 2Gb, and 8Gb cards I had in it! - I can tell cus when I wizz through the photos in landscape mode they appear almost instantly whereas the other cards took time to load them up. or maybe thats cus of this new ROM - I'm not sure.....hmmm....
I ordered a class 6 16gb card to replace the slow-ass class 2 8GB card I had in my HD2.
First of all I couldnt find the format sd tool in my energy rom (1st July) so I had to format the card using vista while the HD2 was connected in disk drive mode. THAT TOOK OVER 1 HOUR.
(Is there a cab file to install the "Format SD Card" tool for the newer energyroms?)
Anyways after formatting (Fat 32, 16KB cluster), I started to copy my 1.4GB sd backup file to the card using the same method as above (disk drive mode)....
My maximum write speed was 2.7MB/sec. Average 2MB/sec.
Class 2 speeds????
After restoring the backup, which took forever, I ran spb benchmark on the card and was gutted to get slightly lower results than the old class 2 I was replacing.
Can the HD2 make use of anything faster than a class 2 card?
Has anyone here tested a class 6 or even 4 card and found good write speeds (~6MB/sec, or ~4MB/sec)?
Does it sound like I have bought a lemon (class 2 labelled as class 6)?
I have spoken to the seller and he is adamant that they ARE genuine class 6. Reckons he tested some of the batch in TrueHD cameras which will not accept <Class6. Seems genuine and some of his feedback states that the cards are Genuine class 6. Which leads me to think that the bottleneck could be the HD2... Does that sound likely?
I'm waiting for a microsd USB reader to arrive so I can test the card outside of the HD2, but Until I can do that... can anyone tell me if a class 6 is wasted in a HD2?
The strange thing is that when browsing photos/wallpapers etc, the thumbnails ARE loading maybe 3x quicker than my old class 2. So I'm pretty confused about this one.
Can anyone shed any light here? Feel free to post benchmark results/screenshots etc.
Thanks in advance.
can anyone PLEASE answer this ^^^?
Is there any point having a class 6 card in the HD2 instead of a class 2 or 4 card?
there is a thread in the accessories section have a gander in there, I no this is Q&A's but lots of talk about mem cards in the accessories section mate
Cheers mate, I'll take a look.
I will move this thread there. I also recently bought a Class 6 card and and have seen a huge improvement in media reading and over all performence.
I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.
Thanks zelendel and kilrah.
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I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.
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That is exactly the kind of data I'm looking to compare.
Whith my 'class 6' Im getting just under 3MB/S WRITE and under 6MB/S READ when using the HD2 in disk drive mode.
If I use the card in a USB 2.0 reader I can get around 5.5MB/S Write and ~11-13MB/S read.
Based on this alone would you say my card is a class 6 or not. I'm beginning to think it may be a class 4 re-labelled.
Picture browsing etc is faster with my class 6 but all benchmarks indicate it is identical speed to my genuine Kingston Class 2.
What do you guys reckon, Should I send this card back for a refund???
Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.
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Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.
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Thank you for helping me clear things up.
Comparing the 'class 6' and the 'class 2' transfer speeds is where I really get confused here.
Transferring a ~700MB .Avi to and from SD using a reader:
Kingston Class 2 8GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 5.4MB/s
Unbranded Class 6 16GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 6MB/s
So, from this, would you say its safe to assume:
1. The class 2 card is a good one, performing at almost class 6 speeds.
2. The class 6 card is 'Genuine' and shouldnt be returned.
3. There is a bottleneck when using the HD2 as a card reader/disk drive. I should be getting more than 2.5mb/s write speeds in this mode.
4? Does 12.5MB/sec sound close to USB 1.1 speeds? could my reader or even USB port (Vista laptop) be another bottleneck?
Once again thank you for helping me make sense of all this.
At least I now know that the 16gb card doesnt really need to be returned.
Can you give me your oppinions on the above?
Well class 2 means you should be getting a minimum 2MB/s speeds and class 6 means you should be getting a minimum 6MB/s.
Seems like you have a very good class 2 card.
More info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Your class 6 is performing to spec.
Personally I would never buy an unbranded card but that's me. A branded card may perform better than there class rating e.g. Your Kingston brand I've always used Sandisk personally...
I've just managed to drum up enough funds to get myself a HD2 and now looking to upgrade my HCSD card to 16GB. To get the "right" class I tried to find the spec on the SD interface but I cannot find anything and the best data I can find is that I shouldn't waste my money on unbranded devices, I would always buy a SANDISK device for something I relied on! For data and communication!
People seem to get appropriate speeds for the class of device they have, if they are branded and sometimes if unbranded. However, there doesn't seem to be anything better than class 6 results debated or given. Is it a VERY rash assumption that the fastest the HD2 interface can go is Class 6?
Chris
Does this mean its not worth getting 32gb cos its a class2
& theat would make the phone slower cos lot more stuff on it
& will take more loading time & play Videos lagy ?
anyone useing 32gb ?
Thanks
My experience was positive with higher class micro SD.
At first, I used 8GB micro SD bundled with my HD2 and didn't notice improved loading speed. Later, I changed it with higher class one, same 8GB, with same manufacturer, Sandisk. Higher class one has name "Ultra" on it. Now with changed SD, loading became WAY faster. "Wow" I realized the higher speed of CPU of HD2.
My 2 pennies.
NEVER EVER buy unbranded memory cards!
Keep an eye on Sandisk cards only and even prefer them to Transcend and Kingston.
Hi al,
Does anyone know whether the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) would actually profit from a Class 10 microSD? Can it utilize the read/write speed of these microSD's?
If not, what is the max. class which the Galaxy S would actually use to its fullest?
Greetings,
Evert
of course it will
this is one of the fatest phone ever
if you have an External class 4 vs another External class 6 card inside this phone then you copy stuff with Astro File inside the phone you'll notice the difference in speed
and then if you compare the class 6 vs a class 10 external you'll see even more difference
this will be very important when Froyo comes out and we can finally use App2SD, as the apps will write and load faster to & from the SD on a class 10 than a class 6 or 4
don't even bother with a class 2 it'll be painful slow
and that comes by experience running apps on SD on all my previous phones
AllGamer said:
of course it will
this is one of the fatest phone ever
if you have an External class 4 vs another External class 6 card inside this phone then you copy stuff with Astro File inside the phone you'll notice the difference in speed
and then if you compare the class 6 vs a class 10 external you'll see even more difference
this will be very important when Froyo comes out and we can finally use App2SD, as the apps will write and load faster to & from the SD on a class 10 than a class 6 or 4
don't even bother with a class 2 it'll be painful slow
and that comes by experience running apps on SD on all my previous phones
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What?
Are you basing this on a test, or are you just assuming that the class 10 microSD is theoretically faster then class 6 ?
Biased on that tech specification your making an assumption that we should get this class 10?
The question is weather or not the SGS Vibrant Bus and Data lines can transfer speeds of 80Mbits/s through the MicroSD card slot??
* Class 2: 16 Mbit/s (2 MB/s)
* Class 4: 32 Mbit/s (4 MB/s)
* Class 6: 48 Mbit/s (6 MB/s)
* Class 10: 80 Mbit/s (10 MB/s)
I would say lets buy them and test it out.
I just had 6MBs towards my internal and 5MBs towards my external sd card at the same time trough the usb connector while the sd is a class 2 =p
The sgs would stil benefit from a class 10 i bet
I have just placed an order for a Kingston SDC10/16GB.
What would be an accurate way to measure read/write speed once this card is in my phone? Simply hook it up to PC and pump a large file to it, and see what the speed/bandwidth is?
when performing test, you will always get the fastest speed when the disk is new (empty)
so the proper way to test for performance speed, is to fill the SD card 50% with random files or random sizes, then do a speed test
that will show the true performance of the sd card
you can try these 3
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sdcardbenchmark/com.p8h.sdcardbenchmark
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sd-card-speed-tester/br.com.fast4ward.sdcardspeedtester
http://www.appbrain.com/app/disk-benchmark-free/com.j.diskbenchmark
Very interested in the results myself! Please do let us know how it goes evert!
Any results ?
I'll check them out. Problem is that most seem to test /sdcard, which is the internal SD, and not [correct folder for external SD]...
i also just wondering if class 10 would make any different in data transfer as rite now i'm using class between class 2 and class 6 for 3 of my 5300 (2) i9000 (4) and n7000 (6)..
any result on the test that you have made? thanks!
I use a transcend 16gb class 10 micro sd and i get a write speed of around 14mbps... on other cards i get 5 or 6mbps...
vigneshnallamad said:
I use a transcend 16gb class 10 micro sd and i get a write speed of around 14mbps... on other cards i get 5 or 6mbps...
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Thanks for the info! Sure feel more confident to get one of these!! Thanks again (and yes i've click the thanks button!) Hehe!!
Regards!
For what it's worth, my speeds are as follows:
Internal: 7mb/s write and 15mb/s read
External: 15mb/s write and 30mb/s read
External is a Transcend class 10 16gb card, almost full and 1yo
Very happy with it
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Hello
I got my Legend about 2 months ago, and I have a big problem with storage space...
What is the biggest sized SD card the Legend can use?
What is the type of SD card (micro, mini, etc...)
What is SD card class?
Thank you very much
microSD compliant with SD2.0 Standard (aka microSDHC)
The biggest size available currently is 32GB.
I don't know if even more is possible with microSDHC or if bigger cards will only be possible with SD3.0 (aka SDXC) but that question is not relevant as you can't buy any greater then 32GB yet.
The Class of the SDCard is a measurement for guaranteed minimum speed in random read/write.
The Class does not provide any information about real-world speed or max speed.
For your mobile phone the class is a pretty useless criterion as you don't need any guaranteed minimum speeds but good overall speeds ESPECIALLY sequential.
The guaranteed minimum speed is important for HD Video Cameras for example where you write data all the time at a given speed (resolution).
thanks.
but I DO need class with high speed because I want to use Data2Ext...
Don't pick uSD card based on class !! class tels you MB/s for sequential write only... you need a card that is overall fast, I had 16GB class 10 Kingston and data2ext was just horrible!
Now I'm with class 4 Sandisk mobile ultra and it is in fact faster in every test I ran...
So read reviews before you buy
ye but that is exactly why im asking...
well then, I recommend sandisk mobile ultra as I have it and it is OK, there are probably faster cards...just see the small files read / write speeds in reviews those are of greatest importance
i purchased a kingston 8GB class 4 which crapped out. android kept reported sdcard unexpectedly removed. tried all sorts (formatting in windows, android, quick, long, etc).
RMA replacement did exactly the same, so i'm guessing kingston class 4's are best avoided.
If I recall correctly I have a 16GB microSDHC Class 4 card. After applying data2ext with this card, my Quadrant scores hit around 1500, which is crazy.
This is where I found my card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-16G...P06K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298984123&sr=8-1
I personally recommend this card.
witch is better class 4 or class 6?
r69001 said:
Hello
I got my Legend about 2 months ago, and I have a big problem with storage space...
What is the biggest sized SD card the Legend can use?
What is the type of SD card (micro, mini, etc...)
What is SD card class?
Thank you very much
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Did you by any chance go to HTC's website to read about the phone? It has the full specs listed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
dangal said:
witch is better class 4 or class 6?
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class 6 is better , but class 10 is even better
I've got a Sandisk Ultra Mobile 16gb SDHC which works fine in the Legend. Make sure you format it with the phone to stop it being dismounted, well known issue and the fix