Guys.. how to show the status of the backup battery?
any registry edit?
thanks guys..
running 6.5 os
I guess there is no way to show that status on WM 6.5. For me, I never saw anything like that in the roms I tested, till now.
The only way to say that it is damaged, is when you change the sim or the main battery and the device does a hr after inserting the main bat back in!
The backup battery should keep the device alive, at least for a few seconds to change the sim or the main battery, in all other cases it would be shown as 100% working, as it should do. Sometime the ramdisk is erased after running out of power, which might be a sign for a worn out backup battery.
This could only be prevented by keeping the main battery at a good power level, shutting down the device earlier by using proggis like batti.exe or changing the backup battery. But be carefull: You won't be the first to brick your hima!
Sometimes it hard to find the right battery, you can use the same as for the BA, I read somewhere arround here.
tnx.. muckelmaus..
hope some they there is a solution..
use software
Use Batti you will get to know your backup battery status then.
tnx.. guyz..
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Hi
i installed the new rom
RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
ok and it seems fine other then one thing
dont know why but i m noticing that there is a lot of battery being used
so i need advice or fix or something that will be helpful for me to stop this draining of the battery without any reason before the install of this rom my phone never used to eat this much of battery
Can some please help
I have a Tmobile MDA (USA)
I think I know what's happening. One of the cabs in the extended ROM is responsible; perhaps the AKU 2.0 (push email). I've installed the extended rom unlock tool on the ftp and installed only the cabs that I need from the extended rom. If it's one of those, I'll post back and let you know. I do not use push email, so the AKU 2.0 ROM is not one of them.
Anyone else?
Sure thanks alot
and please when u will tell me can you tell me the details of how to go about making changes so that i can do to help my mda`s battery life coz i new to all this rom and stuff
Thanks a million
After playing with this thing this afternoon...I've come to the conclusion that when you do a soft reset while the device is plugged in, the battery shows up 100% charged. It rapidly declines to the actual level and then slows down its discharge to acceptable levels. The best way to get an actual reading is to turn off the device using the software reset (hold down the power button until the device gives the option to power off) and then put it on the charger for a few hours. I think that actually gives it a full charge and you'll be set. The new battery driver (along with that bloody battery icon in the today bar) is not the best thing is it?
hey i will surely try this and once i m done doing it
i will get back to you with the results
Thanks for all your help buddy
Yes, great, that other peoples noticed this thing too...
After installing some file from the ex_rom, my battery doesn´t show the right position...
I made the updates a few days before and the problem surely came with one of this ne cab-files...
Any possibility to remove this files, cause i don´t need AKU2, yet....
Thanks a lot...
*****EDIT*****
I removed the Tool Batti from the system...
seems to work much better now....
Hi,
As the title says really.
I removed the battery today and upon powering it back up the time and date were reset.
Surely there is an internal battery to keep these settings isn't there?
davidlucas said:
Hi,
As the title says really.
I removed the battery today and upon powering it back up the time and date were reset.
Surely there is an internal battery to keep these settings isn't there?
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mine does not reset, but how long was your battery out? I have heard conflicting reports about an internal battery, some say yes, some say no, cant say for sure
Hi Shogun,
You have replied to my posts under your beta software posts as this was where I first noticed that my phone crashed twice and on reboot the time/date reset.
Now today i removed the battery for about a minute while I changed the sim card and the time/date reset itself again.
Trying to isolate the why its doing it.
has anyone taken their wizard apart to see if there truly is an internal battery? some people said that according to the service manual there is a spot for it... If there really is an internal battery then i would vote its dead, if there isnt one then i have no clue
Mine is brand new (less then a month) and it ALWAYS resets when i change battery (sometimes i can change itin 4 seconds and it still resets). I also have used a few programs that can detect backup batteries and 2 of them show none.
mine hasn't reset when I've pulled the battery out in the past
Thanks for the replies.
Now some do some dont now this is confusing.
I'm using a Qtek 9100 maybe thats the difference, what are you using?
I have an O2 Xda Mini S and it's also resetting.....
This is a known issue with a lot of native WM5 devices and is caused by the very small capacitor that is supposed to power the clock for some seconds while you change batteries. I don't think anything can be done.
Menneisyys said:
This is a known issue with a lot of native WM5 devices and is caused by the very small capacitor that is supposed to power the clock for some seconds while you change batteries. I don't think anything can be done.
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well you could in theory replace the cap with a battery... but you wil have to have mad soldering skills and the schematics (or repair manual possibly) and tiny battery, or maybe you could mode the case to hold a watch battery or 3 lol
Hi guys,
I have updated my Qtek 9090 to WM5. But I found an annoying problem, every time when I plug out the battery, for example to change the SIM card, the date information will lose and I must set it again when I turn it on.
Does anybody have good idea to solve this small problem?
BR,
Peter
rocqip said:
Hi guys,
I have updated my Qtek 9090 to WM5. But I found an annoying problem, every time when I plug out the battery, for example to change the SIM card, the date information will lose and I must set it again when I turn it on.
Does anybody have good idea to solve this small problem?
BR,
Peter
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What is the status of your backup battery.
Is it fully charged before AND after you change the battery.
If after changing the main battery the system reports the backup battery to be discharged, maybe your backup battery is died?
Mine does the same thing. I think our back up batteries are dead. How does one replace the battery?
the date and time gets erased every time i change batteries. quickest way to get the time/date right is to connect the xda2s to the computer via activesync (or manually correct it)
I have checked the status of the backup battery from WM5 battery information, it is 100% full. Is this information believable or not? If not, does anybody know how to change the backup battery?
rocqip said:
I have checked the status of the backup battery from WM5 battery information, it is 100% full. Is this information believable or not? If not, does anybody know how to change the backup battery?
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What % is the backup battery after you change your main battery.
Thats the key, if it says it is flat after change then your backup battery is not holding charge.
To change it I believe would entail opening your pda case and removing the old battery & installing a new battery of the same type/rate.
Don't know if they are soldered or clipped in, someone with more knowledge may shed some light.
i use the ms activesync to synchronize the date
i have the same problem.. even if i poke the soft reset button, time and date reverts to default.. september 1, 2004..
i can assure that my back up battery still works.. it loses charge and drains (my ramdisk gets wiped out) for about 30 minutes without the main batt..
I'm having the same problem as well.
Anyone found a solution to this yet?
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I'm using Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2
And I've confirmed this problem doesn't occur when using WM2003SE.
wuzy said:
I'm having the same problem as well.
Anyone found a solution to this yet?
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I'm using Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 R2
And I've confirmed this problem doesn't occur when using WM2003SE.
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I have no problem with that, and i am using the same rom as you.
When i remove teh battery, first i lock the device, and turn it off, making the screen all black. now i remove it, and in less than 20 secs i swap cards.
No mem loss.
When you mean by "turning it off", you meant pressing the power button and it goes to suspend mode right?
Cuz on my Dell X51v there's a function to perform a full poweroff which I can't find in this ROM.
anyone tried to remove the battery the moment just after choosing a soft reset?
1. choose soft reset
2. then when the four colored lines come out, take out the battery
3. insert new battery
4. turn on the power
5. just in case the R and G values display "NONE", just choose soft reset again
i think it's a good alternative to keep the date/time after changing batteries... i just don't know the harmful ramifications in doing so, if any...
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When you mean by "turning it off", you meant pressing the power button and it goes to suspend mode right?
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Of course.
Ok, this is strange.
I accidentally moved the battery latch when the screen was on, the battery fell out and the screen faded out quickly. But when I put the battery back in and reboot the device, all settings including date & time were still there!
So I tried the same method when swapping to my other battery and it worked as well! w00tz!
Done it a few times now with 100% success so far.
Drifter
I use Drifter by Kopsis when I'm in wi-fi range. Drifter uses Network Time Protocol (NTP) to set the time. Thus you can set the time even without syncing to your computer.
I'm using AKU 3.5.2 with the BuildOS on default settings and i can change my battery just fine.
My BA was send to repair at a known website, when returned was indicating that the backup battery was UNKNOWN.
I've opened the BA and removed, and placed back the backup batery.
Now it says that the backup battery is 100%, but if I remove the main battery I loose ALL DATA from main memory
What is happening with it? Any help thoughts?
replace the backup battery with a new one. your's just died.
how to replace the backup battery?
is there a wiki on how to replace the backup batt? i feel mine is dead as well.
Same... My BA started to act weirdly after I flash it with WM5.
Example if I left it from a longtime in standby mode, if I were to suddenly make a phone call by pressing the green dial button the phone will just automatic restart.
After phone reboot, time and date etc gets reset.
Anyone facing this problem?
My problem is only when I remove the main batery I losse all mem.
The backup battery isn't rechargeable??
Where to buy one and what is the reference??
Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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mine is significantly shorter than when i was in WM5. but not as bad as yours. try this. go back to WM5 and see if it still gives u 2days.. then go back to wm6. then if u still get 12hours max with the same usage as you have with wm5.. then it's the ROM.
if you get poor batt life even going back to wm5, then maybe it's the battery. consider borrowing a battery, or buying a new one..
Are you sure your battery can stand only 12 hours ? it's too short. Try to reduce thre brightnes to save the power of your battery.
Ta for the suggestions.
I already have my screen brightness adjusted, and auto power off as appropriate.
Battery is the original, but behaved with 2003. I have two Himalyas (bought the second off a colleague for £40 as nervous about playing with ROMs!) and so two original batteries; both behave the same. I also inherited an aftermarket battery which is truly awful - goes haywire after down to ~45%.
I did try WM5 for a while, and don't recall the battery problem. As I have two devices, switching one to WM5 and comparing is a good suggestion. Unfortunately I need one application (NotifyLink - see thread in the WM5 forum) that I've not been able to get working in WM5, and *does* work on WM6, so if I need to go back it's WM2003SE for me :-(
Before trying to flash back to an older rom, consider some other battery saving options.
Lowering your screen brightness was a good idea, which you have already done.
Some other things to consider:
Turn off "Receive All Incoming Beams" until you actual need to receive something via bluetooth/IR.
Turn off bluetooth if you are not using it (this used to be a massive drain on my himalaya)
After closing a program, go to the task manager and make sure it is actually closed. THe cross in the top right hand corner usually just shrinks things. You can buy/download applications I believe that will actually properly close a program. I've on occasion had 8 progrms running at the same time simutaneously before closing them.
Make sure the terminals on your battery and himalaya are clean (where the battery connects) and also test to make sure your battery is seated correctly.
Change the timeout for your device (IE how long it will wait before turning its backlight off, and then turning off in full). Mine is set to 1 minute. You can set it as low as 30 seconds but I didn't like this as I felt it would wear out the backlight.
If I think of more I'll come back and write them. Perhaps someone has already made a "Save battery power" post. If not, perhaps someone will make one and the mods can sticky it.
cheers
The battery is geting life expired. Better buy a new battery..
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
If I've besmirched either of the ROMs published on this forum then please except my apologies - I discovered that my battery problems are NOT due to the ROM. But nor are they due to my battery!
Re-Flashing (or hard reset with reboot options) gives me good/normal battery usage. I therefore figured that my problems _must_ be due to an installed application. It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink, which I unfortunately need to install in order to receive my corporate email. With this present I lose approx. 6% battery power every hour(!), even with GPRS disconnected and the application not checking with its server. Just installing (even before configuring) the application I get this immense battery drain. Weird. Removing my SIM card doesn't help. Neither does uninstalling; I need to hard reset before battery consumption returns to being acceptable.
As I need this application it looks like I need to accept the need to top-up every evening.
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
i recently replaced my battery for a new one. it was near 3 yrs old and it's battery life was steadily decreasing lately, shutting off just about 6 hours after a full charge! when i bought a new one it shuts of at 5% on the same rom and operating conditions, nice huh!?. so as a rule of hand slash of around 15-25% of battery life for every year of use. better yet save up for a new one while your on it .
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It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink,
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Good job. As you can see on notifylink's newsletter they're very specific on devices fit for the job, for example not just any Wing, but TMobile Wing...
http://www.notifycorp.com/intheloop/index.htm
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
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As far as I know all you need for direct push is correct settings of exchange server and a device with WM5 or WM6 with built in MSFP or WM2003 with Global Contact Access installed. MSFP should probably be in your WM6 ROM unless your cook cut it out. In that case you can either try to find it in the ROM kitches of recent HTC devices and see what happens if you cook it into Hima ROM yourself. I don't know which file(s) you should use. Or you can download GCA and see if it works on your WM6 Hima.
Maggy - Many thanks for the response. Yes NotifyLink do recommend specific devices, but I've no idea if their battery consumption is any better. I do see from various postings here in my company that I'm not alone with problems - generally advice is to just check with the server less frequently, etc, which doesn't solve my issue. I'm going to have to live with this inefficiency for the moment.
As regards DP, I'll await with interest my company's progress in moving to this technology. Thanks for your information!
I have similar problem since WM6 Tofclock ROM is installed - getting just about 24hours battery life....Although the battery is quite old the Rom has definetly some incidence on this --- I have installed batti 2.1 following some threads i found here, hope it will help
Actually, I found out the same strange thing, while I was trying to solve another problem. I changed almost all of the OS/Radio Roms combinations, and with WM2003 the battery time when the phone is in stand-by is significally greater than with the WM2005 or 2006 Rom (days vs hours)... and this happens with every radio rom.