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Hi all,
I have been testing (sofar day 5) how long can my HTC Diamond last on standby without needing to recharge.
Phone is constantly on (day and night). It is on standby i.e. screen off, but the power is on. So every time I tap the little power button it shows me how much (%) of the battery is left.
I am on day 5 and the battery is 66%.
Will update tomorrow.
I don't know if anyone done this before, but I am trying to find out, how long will battery actually last in real world (in standby).
Cheers.
Are you just using Flight Mode?
And none of them is turning on ?
1. 2G / 3G phone (stay at one place / moving day & night )
2. Wi-Fi
3. Bluetooth
day 6
DAY6......checked battery status this evening.....52% left.
Phone is on standby (screen off). Everything else is on.
This is just my little experiment. Probably does not make sense to many, but maybe someday,someone would wanna know that, how long the battery lasts this way
to ykwong
sorry did not notice someone has replied.
phone is essentially in flight mode.....phone itself is off (no calls coming in or out)
but, Bluetooth and WIFI is on. Everytime I check for battery status....it notifies me of my WIFI connection.
If your mobile is in standby Wi-Fi and Bluetooth even if they are turned on are in standby too (except when you turn it on to check battery charge) thus they don't consume power.
Ive been testing mine aswell andi've found i lose 6% every 8 hours, thats with minimal use and screen off once used. radio 1.25.00.5 and the offficial 1.93 rom and with settings from shcaps advanced config.
wifi is turned off automatically when in standby mode, and turned on when you activate the phone again unless you've done a registry hack to force it on.
Moreover this test is quite useless as battery life consumption depends on the power of the signal, your battery can easily last half the usual time if the signal is weak and twice longer if you just under a cell
johnnymatrix said:
wifi is turned off automatically when in standby mode, and turned on when you activate the phone again unless you've done a registry hack to force it on.
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Indeed, thats true.
Battery life is poor
I got Diamond 2 days ago. What I noticed was the battery life is appalling actually. I charged full and with normal usage (ie, 5-6 calls lasting about altogether lasting less than an hour and some pplaying around) it doesnt last more than a day. Battery shows 10% at the end of the day. Is that normal? Or is it just mine. (By the way 3G on, Wifi, bluetooth off)
I charge mine twice a day...
i have to charge mine everyday after work and im not using in THAT much, some calls and checking some mails. the batterytime really sucks, my old phones have loads of better batterytime, so what if i surf some on the net and checking some videos to do i have to charge it every hour or what? really sucks :/
htc has released a new battery for longer standby time. the battery volumn is 1350MA, with a back cover. the price is around 40 pounds.
unlike the third party battery some of us have bought, does the gps still work with this one?
ehe12 said:
htc has released a new battery for longer standby time. the battery volumn is 1350MA, with a back cover. the price is around 40 pounds.
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How much volume and weight doe it add up to the sleek diamond? Does it not kill the joy? What will be the difference then b/w diamond and raphael thickness and weight??
day7
today.....power at 43%
to posters: I know that this test may sound pointless to some. All I am saying that someone someday may find this informative.
If you have the phone off, there's no point in this test - at all. When the screen turns off, wifi turns off as well. This would be the most battery consuming application you have, so it would last a long time regardless of battery or phone.
My settings shows fully loaded battery but the ROM update screen tells me that i have less than 50% available. Who is correct? And is there a way to unload the battery totally w/o having the diamond on all the way (already tried, is not working) to refresh it from base? Thanks!
day 8
battery at: 29%
........I will check and finish this test tomorrow , I assume it will we under 20 %
I'm starting such a test myself today, see if I can make it to Monday. I will be using my phone for calling, i.e. the phone function is on (except when I sleep, don't want to be disturbed ), the occasional internet (checking train schedule, maybe using it as a router for my laptop for 5 minutes), and maybe 5 minutes of teeter or something. The average day use I'd say.
Question: how do I see the percentage of my battery charge?
Test starts as of NOW, 15:47 in Amsterdam, which is 13:57 UTC. It's fully charged, so I don't need a percentage reading on this one
First off I can't spell battery............
I have an ATT Captivate that I have fixed by installing FF3 and Kernel 2.6.32.9 as a package from this site. My battery life isn't noticably worse than it was when it was the stock 2.2 but it still sucks. After 10 or 12 hours of very light use its down aound 15%. The battery use says it's hands down the display thats using the juice.
I was hoping (maybe wrongly so) that having the additional access to the phone I could somehow improve my battery life. I've tried the bump charge, recalibrate, CWR erase battery stats, etc. I also have 2 batteries for it (that probably tells you something right there) and both batteries behave the same.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this? Is there a launcher that I can use that's battey friendly? A different ROM?
It's a shame to have this phone to the state it is with a FF3 rom and faster than it was and not be able to use it all I want.
TIA, Jeff
Some things to help get the best battery life are:
Place screen brightness at lowest level both on web browser and on normal screen.
Switch to 2G when not needed for downloading/uploading data.
Turn off power saving mode under settings/display.
Use as few widgets as possible.
Manually retrieve emails rather than having them sent to you every 30 minutes or less.
In cwm there is a battery settings menu (can't remember what it is called) but you should enable that also.
These are some of the better ways to get better battery life out of your phone.
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First off I can't spell battery............
I have an ATT Captivate that I have fixed by installing FF3 and Kernel 2.6.32.9 as a package from this site. My battery life isn't noticably worse than it was when it was the stock 2.2 but it still sucks. After 10 or 12 hours of very light use its down aound 15%. The battery use says it's hands down the display thats using the juice.
I was hoping (maybe wrongly so) that having the additional access to the phone I could somehow improve my battery life. I've tried the bump charge, recalibrate, CWR erase battery stats, etc. I also have 2 batteries for it (that probably tells you something right there) and both batteries behave the same.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this? Is there a launcher that I can use that's battey friendly? A different ROM?
It's a shame to have this phone to the state it is with a FF3 rom and faster than it was and not be able to use it all I want.
TIA, Jeff
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In 10-12 hours you only have 15% left on your phone? How much time is used for display? My phone can usually last a good 15-20 hrs with light to moderate use. As we all know display is the number one use for battery consumption. I've noticed I can go about 2 and half hours give or take on display before my battery gets kinda low.
As the previous poster has mentioned, screen brightness and data usually are the culprits for bad battery life. Try leaving your screen brightness on a low setting, and turning auto-brightness OFF. Disabling background data in "accounts and sync" setting is also a very good way to help with battery life. Also, making sure your GPS is OFF is another good way to save some juice.
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How much time is used for display?
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Is there an application that will tell me this other than the about->battery ? Currently my info is limited to percentage of total battery useage and is showing that display is 96%.
[email protected] said:
Is there an application that will tell me this other than the about->battery ? Currently my info is limited to percentage of total battery useage and is showing that display is 96%.
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tap that it will take you to a more detailed screen with the time used...
Flashed ROM (FF3) while batt low?
I'm pretty sure the batt was not 100% when I flashed to FF3 and I did not clear everything out before either. If this is a potential problem with batt life can I fix this short of reflashing on a full batt?
Is going into CWR and restoring from a backup going to do the same thing as reflashing FF3 from the batteries perspective if I clear everything first?
TIA, Jeff
Just as the title says is the power saver options like CPU and data connection really useful as well as the "sleep mode" option in power settings or are they making battery life worse?
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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shahkam said:
If they are power savings options i don't see any reason why it would drain even more?
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well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
Anyone?
I keep the power saver on most of the time. The main things I notice is that it dims the display (not really an issue if you work indoors) and it disables the wifi and data connections after periods of inactivity.
No real downsides (I'd be curious to hear other people's experiences). Sometimes receiving WhatsApp messages takes a couple extra minutes if the data/wifi connection goes to sleep.
Seems to give me good battery life - I average 15-18 hours, and that's including a fair amount of on-screen time and music/podcasts during the day.
I used power saver quite a bit in the 2 months after I got the phone but I don't use it anymore. In my experience it helped very little (as in added an hour or 2 maybe to overall life per charge). My baseline average battery life is 21hrs GSam tells me, and that's without power saver on at all (wifi, nfc, cellular always on and screen at 100%) and about 3hrs screen on time.
It may just be that, as was mentioned above, my use doesn't utilize the benefits of power saver because I don't often do cpu intensive things. It did run a bit cooler though. I also prevented the mode from diming the screen. I always (and still do) found that most of my power was going to the system (apps etc) @80% even with the screen maxed, and that I would lose about 20% overnight with our without power saver. So I stopped using it because : 1. It didn't improve MY USE 2. I didn't like the notification icon 3. I hear really good things about Battery Guru from experienced XDAers and the app seems more intelligent than power saver to me so I use that now. Unfortunately it's still too early to tell how much this will increase my average usage.
Regarding the issue of damaging your battery, the way it was brought up refers to the number of charge - discharge cycles a battery has. So only something that discharges the battery more quickly (so that you have to do another charge cycle more quickly) will shorten the battery's life. If nothing else, logically using power saver would not do this. It won't hurt the battery and may not hurt your usage (remember the GPU can still run at full clock for games), but I don't think it will help you much either based on my experience.
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racingmatt1 said:
well according to this quote from another thread on xda in the sprint htc one forum,so I wasn't sure because it says it does make it worse.
"Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer)."
-Vincent Law
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link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2347615&highlight=power+saver
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dont believe everything you see online. All it does it limit the CPU, as opposed to running 1700mhz, its capped at 1134mhz, this is not detrimental.
it takes power to make power, undervolting and downclocking processors has been repeatedly proven to assist and aid battery life.
it takes a certain balance or the two to get great results. Mind you the stock kernel is great but its adaptive. So dont be discouraged when seeing bad battery life initially.
If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
It makes a difference and if you need the extra juice it will help you.
However, the amount of difference depends on your use.
If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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If I am using Snapdragon Battery Guru should I deactivate Power Saver? Is the Power Saver a better/worse solution or a complementary one for optimising battery life?
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Theoretically they should work together fine because Battery Guru studies what you do with your phone so that it can figure out what to prioritize and what to shut down - it adapts so it should adapt to the power saver situation. Underclocking the cpu shouldn't change what services it adjusts because you're still doing all the same things.
Battery Guru just finished "learning" on my phone yesterday so I don't know how good it is. But I lost 40% overnight for some reason which has never happened before. It's probably still adapting. Life seems to be better during use...
The comment above about the OS being adaptive is also very true, my first few charge cycles were dismal but they got better within a week (without power saver etc.)
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Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
I turned it off on my wife's HTC One. It was disabling data/wifi after several minutes inactivity, which caused FB Messenger to freak out and stay awake, which caused the battery to drain faster than if the data was just left on.
JasSingh93 said:
If I leave my phone off charge overnight, I usually loose around 5%. If I turn powersaver on, I only loose 1-2%. This is with around 8-10 hours of no usage, with wifi on. It also turns off vibration feedback when using the back and home keys.
I've also noticed the phone to be slightly less responsive with power saver on. As far as I can tell, if you are concerned whether your battery will last you the few more hours you need, it will definitely help save power
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
FlipFlop81 said:
Ya I'm using Juice Defender Plus on my HTC one running 4.1.2 for a few months now and I'm not sure if it's making too much of difference. Are you finding Battery Curu pretty decent?
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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Hmm... If I leave my phone off the charger overnight after a full charge with power saver with WiFi on for 6 hours it will be down to 95% with no usage.
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I used to have a higher drain, but after some research, I found out using betterbatterystats that google maps was waking up the phone often and preventing sleep. I corrected this by disabling "report from this device" in google maps settings.
Before this, I experienced similar battery drain with power saver on.
From experience, it's best to determine phone sleep time and app battery usage, and correct this to achieve the best life.
I'm currently able to get two days with light usage without power saver!
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Sorry still to early to tell really, it's learning period ended yesterday so it'll take time for GSam to find the new average usage. But again it SEEMS to have improved drain during use. I'm really not sure what the drain last night was but if it happens again tonight the app is gone...
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I changed my mind, I'm consistently losing 40% per night after Battery Guru activated. I can't confirm that this app is the problem, but it's never happened before and I haven't changed anything but adding the app. Maybe just me experience though.
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I've uninstalled BatteryGuru for the same reason
I'm relatively certain that for many people this is super old news, but I'd like to share this anyway just in case it helps anyone (and a bit because I'm just so impressed by how it works )
I've tried a few different power saving strategies on this phone and have been disappointed with all, including just keeping power saver on all the time. I would always lose 20-40% overnight no matter what I did. I should also clarify that it is not acceptable for me to just disable a bunch of things to get that drain under control. So one day I turned on power saver (everything checked off) and just turned off wifi, and I've been doing it ever since because now I only lose 5-10% over night maybe a strange thing to be excited about considering my other devices lose as little as 1% in that time with nothing turned off, but everything's relative.
I think now I'll try keeping wifi off and power saver on throughout the day and see what I get. Though I'm not sure I like the thought of data being turned off during the day when the screen isn't on...
For me at least this is the single best battery saving thing I've ever done on my One.
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What you mean by saying that you "turned on power saver (everything checked off)"? What Power Saver does if everything is checked off? I suppose like that it actually doing nothing. If you uncheck everything and turn it on isn't the same as turning Power Saver off?
I'm getting a regular wakelock labeled msm_hsic_host. I thought this was related to the phone's radio, but I turned on airplane mode and the wakelock continues. Anyone know why?
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I'm getting a regular wakelock labeled msm_hsic_host. I thought this was related to the phone's radio, but I turned on airplane mode and the wakelock continues. Anyone know why?
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You probably have a rogue app polling for a radio signal and putting it in airplane mode is making it worse.
The same wakelock doubled my battery drain last night. I had it in airplane mode overnight. Going to leave the signal on tonight and see what happens. I was getting between 3-7% but it was 15% last night.
Tested it again last night. Unplugged at 4pm yesterday and used 5% battery overnight. I just hit 24 hours with light/medium use today and battery is at 75%. I know others have shared this but battery life has certainly improved with time. The wakelock is certainly reduced leaving data connected overnight. Hope this helps.
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How are you able to see wakelocks without root?
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How are you able to see wakelocks without root?
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GSam battery monitor has an option at the bottom that looks like a vacuum. Its called app sucker. Once that screen opens there is a drop down menu at the top that allows you to see the kernel wakelocks. Then you can select each wakelock and the next screen has a button there to google it. Hope this helps.
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GSam battery monitor has an option at the bottom that looks like a vacuum. Its called app sucker. Once that screen opens there is a drop down menu at the top that allows you to see the kernel wakelocks. Then you can select each wakelock and the next screen has a button there to google it. Hope this helps.
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It does! I'm used to better battery stats, and still learning gsam. Thanks!
Looks like it's a big problem for alot more phones. I have the same wake lock also. I get about 1% per hour by leaving it overnight. Is that normal?
dluxx06 said:
Looks like it's a big problem for alot more phones. I have the same wake lock also. I get about 1% per hour by leaving it overnight. Is that normal?
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I think it is. But alot depends on your settings and the strength of the cell connection. Actually the cell connection is about the biggest battery drain that I have. I use Tasker on my phone. It disconnects my cell connection when the screen times out and limits anything running in the background. Calls and texts still come through. When the screen wakes up everything reconnects. Some would say the settings I use are extreme but I get good battery life from it. Tasker can be difficult to start at first but there are some good youtube how-to videos. Im hoping the new battery saving feature in lollipop will make it unnecessary to regulate any settings. I guess we will see.
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I think it is. But alot depends on your settings and the strength of the cell connection. Actually the cell connection is about the biggest battery drain that I have. I use Tasker on my phone. It disconnects my cell connection when the screen times out and limits anything running in the background. Calls and texts still come through. When the screen wakes up everything reconnects. Some would say the settings I use are extreme but I get good battery life from it. Tasker can be difficult to start at first but there are some good youtube how-to videos. Im hoping the new battery saving feature in lollipop will make it unnecessary to regulate any settings. I guess we will see.
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This. I use tasker to turn off data and auto sync when I go to sleep (because its literally a waste of battery) and I got 0% to 2% drainage overnight (total, not hourly) but that was with a custom rom. I expect 0.5% to less than 1% per hour with this phone because at idle with 4g on I drain about 1%/hr
Hello,
I would like to ask you guys, what apps do you use to save your battery?
Naptime? Anything else?
Nothing... I don't need to install anything to save battery. That being said, I USED to do this with apps like Greenify on my Galaxy Note 3 (so like 9-10 years ago). But I had stopped doing that a while back as doing so had only lead to even less battery life lol.
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
I've tried naptime and I've not really noticed a huge difference, at least in repeatable conditions, i.e. overnight. Same with Galaxy max Hz, although i like the additional controls that the latter gives
Love Bixby routines to switch to 2G when at home or activate batter saver when sleeping and not charging. Rly good stuff.
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I kind of do something similar. I've got a Bixby Routine to shut off the smart plug that the charger is plugged into when the Battery percent reaches 80. Unfortunately, Bixby routines isn't very reliable.
dscline said:
I don't use anything to limit battery consumption, but I do use Accubattery to set an alert when my charge reaches 75%. Reducing depth of charge and not charging to full 100% is a way to reduce battery wear, so ultimately that extends battery life.
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I use Accubattery as well to monitor temp and charging.
If you use any power management especially 3rd party ones it can cause erratic behavior and may create conflicts that use more power than they save.
I deal with power hogs directly by either adjusting settings, disabling them or firewall blocking them.
Certain apps like Brave, Gmaps I manually close out when done or will they continue to poll the internet in the background and use power.
aronwhite95 said:
to be honest, the best battery saver is to uninstall the native Facebook application from your phone. it eats up battery like anything. you will see a noticeable improvement on your daily battery performance.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
I’ve been using AccuBattery with IFTTT to shut off a smart plug at 75% for several years now to extend my phone’s battery life. This has been very reliable, it runs every morning before I wake up.
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You can just turn off all notification and disable(deep sleep) in Background usage limits.
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what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
mankvl said:
what do you mean disable? add facebook to deep sleep list? I noticed it's not working, even if I but it in deep sleep list I still get notifications. And do rly disabling notifications for facebook app improves battery? any source about that?
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No, no. The first person essentially said to uninstall that crummy, built-in Facebook app and then to put some apps that you don't need notifications for into deep sleep mode. The second person mentioned the same thing with different wording.