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ok so im on the latest JF rom with appstosd. everything is working great and i'm actually on the stock sd card partioned obviously. I was wondering, if I buy a bigger SD card and partion it, how would i go about making this new sd card exactly like the old sd card? would I make a nandroid backup of the old sdcard and then restore it on the new sdcard? could someone help me with this? is there extra steps i need to take to make the new sdcard just like the old one?
Thanks,
Boricua_Ace
Please try and search before posting a new thread. We all had to read way more than we wanted to figure this stuff out, there's no reason you shouldn't either.
To answer your question.
NANDroid doesn't touch your sdcard except to place the backup of your phone on it. You'll need a linux machine or adb to do what you want. If you're using linux it should be self explanatory. If you're using adb, try this:
adb pull /system/sd/app app
adb pull /system/sd/app-private app-private
reformat your new card using whatever method you used for the stock card.
adb /push app /system/sd/app
adb /push app-private /system/sd/app-private
i did search for what i was looking for specifically but need not come back with good results. thanks for the info! and i do not have a linux machine so i will be using adb which i have.
after i do those steps, do i then restore a backup from nandroid on the phone? i would also have to use apps2sd app again correct? and do i also moved everything from the Fat32 to the new sd card?
If all you're doing is replacing the sdcard and not wiping your phone (alt-w), then those are the only steps you'll have to take.
Considering all of the hybrid ways to get apps2sd i can see how this could be confusing. I'd suggest using just the sdsplit script to repartion/format your card since you probably used marcusmaximus's app to do it all initially.
Oh, and yes, you'll need to copy the stuff off of your fat32 and move them to a tempory folder on your pc too. Just copy it all back manually once it's repartitioned.
great thanks! i actually used partion manager to partion the old card. So i'll do it that way again. works for me. just wanted to make sure i dont miss any steps. i will not be wiping the phone. i'll also have to adb the dalvik-cache since i do have that on the old card correct?
No point in moving dalvik-cache since it will recreate itself anyway.
Just make sure, if you're using unionfs instead of symlinks, that you create the /system/sd/dalvik-cache directory before you reboot your phone.
thanks for all your help and patience in answering my questions. really appreciate it.
last question, im using the old appstosd app not appstosd 2 app. i believe this app uses symlinks correct?
boricuaace said:
last question, im using the old appstosd app not appstosd 2 app. i believe this app uses symlinks correct?
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Unfortunately, I don't remember. I think that's correct, but you'd have to read through that thread to be sure.
I don't think symlinks are that picky and creating the /system/sd/dalvik-cache directory before you boot the phone with the new card will work in either case.
Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.
great, thanks again!
no problem. Good luck.
I'm running apps2sd and have everything set up the way I want. I realize that I can use a nandroid backup to create a system restore, but I'm in need of a sure way to back up and restore individual apps from my ext3 partition. I can use ADB, terminal, or a windows machine to do this, and have no real preference. I tried to use "Backup For Root Users" from the market and it worked great except for a few apps it wouldn't allow me to re-install. It wasn't for just my paid apps either it was a few select apps, that for some reason I cannot determine, that gave me "XXX Could not be installed on this phone" Any Ideas or insight would be greatly appreciated. All I want to do is make a backup of these apps that I can copy back over to my sd card and install using whatever method, preferably using a file manager app on the phone such as astro!!
Thanks guys!
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I'm running apps2sd and have everything set up the way I want. I realize that I can use a nandroid backup to create a system restore, but I'm in need of a sure way to back up and restore individual apps from my ext3 partition. I can use ADB, terminal, or a windows machine to do this, and have no real preference. I tried to use "Backup For Root Users" from the market and it worked great except for a few apps it wouldn't allow me to re-install. It wasn't for just my paid apps either it was a few select apps, that for some reason I cannot determine, that gave me "XXX Could not be installed on this phone" Any Ideas or insight would be greatly appreciated. All I want to do is make a backup of these apps that I can copy back over to my sd card and install using whatever method, preferably using a file manager app on the phone such as astro!!
Thanks guys!
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Switchrom actually tar's the ext3 drive when it backs up your rom. You can use Droid Explorer and 7zip to extract the Tar and place it in the /system/sd folder. Other than that, Backup for Root Users is the closest we have to "easy"
I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
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THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
I'm pretty sure that Titanium Backup has this kind of functionality built in, not sure if it is pro only or if it works in the free version, but, since it did not work well the first time I've tried, I just do it manually.
P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
The only problem, as HinotoriBR said, is that when you update an app you should move it from data/app to system/app, delete the old app version (newly installed will have a different name) and reboot.
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Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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You're right, that DOES free up space on /system partition, but it's not enough to use the free space for other apps
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THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
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I installed Swype and moved com.swype.android.inputmethod-1.apk to /system/app using Root Explorer and it still worked without rebooting the phone.
Maybe because input methods are always active in the background so it didn't notice the moving?
I restarted anyway (because otherwise it doesn't update the free memory information in Settings) and et voila: more than 10MB extra space.
Now Swype is still listed in the "All Apps" tab of app management but with a mere 2MB.
I guess that's user settings, dalvik cache and other stuff - so I better not move it...
One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
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Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
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Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
THANKS TO EVERYONE
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Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
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I suppose you're right. Or maybe SD speed is faster than internal memory, who knows... but surely reading internal memory uses less battery power than reading microsd.
An ext2 partition is really useful if you install a lot of apps.
As my SD card is only Class2 (was bundled with the phone) I doubt it would be faster than internal memory.
Up to now I was able to install all the apps I really needed without an ext2 partition - so I think the /system-trick will give me more space than I really need
But thanks anyway - I'll get back to it when I'm keen enough to use custom roms and ext partitions
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One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
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Since partition is mounted as read only usually, it means that partition is not used to cache or store any app data. All data and cache of /system applications goes to /data (which, as you observed, still has some space being used by the moved application). So, you should be able to fill /system (or get close to fill it) and have no issues.
If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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Since partition is mounted as read only usually, it means that partition is not used to cache or store any app data.[...]
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Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
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If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
Eiertschik said:
Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
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The memhack will move the cache from the /data partition to that specific partition for OTA upgrades. So, as your cache grows larger, your /data (free internal memory) will not decrease. This saves internal memory space that would otherwise be used for cache (not sure if application data is moved there too).
As soon as you start hacking the stock rom, it is not recommended to try to update directly the phone, if Motorola ever releases a newer version, recommended steps:
- Titanium Backup all your Apps/Data
- Flash a stock SBF (2.0/2.1/2.2, doesn't matter) in your phone, wipe all data/cache
- Use Motorola Software Update to upgrade the software to the new revision
- Afterwards, as soon as update is done and phone boots, you can flash vulnerable recovery and then through Open Recovery or Androidiani Open Recovery hack the hell out of your phone again (ie.: root, memhack, overclock, etc)
- As soon as you get root, use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
Or, you could always wait for someone to release a Nandroid Backup of the new rom, as is usual in the Android Development section, and simply use that Nandroid Backup (alway Titanium Backup your apps/data b4), wipe everything after update, and then use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
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P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
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I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
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I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Yea, cheers, it was a school boy error! I was thinking to myself must do a nandroid before I start tinkering and totally forgot! All back to normal and backed up now
I was seeing if I could swap out the stock dialer with dialer one in system/apps... Milestone didnt seem to like it at all! I assume apps like dialer one are dependant on the existance of core apps. I did manage to get rid of the 3D gallery and replace it with quickpic.
Theres loads in system/apps that I simply dont need like 'LiveWallpapersPicker.apk' which I assume I can just get rid of - I will give it a go and see what comes crashing down!
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Hey,
I have decided to give CyanogenMod a go for the first time.
I've been rooted for some time now - running a stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 rooted.
I've heard so many good things about CyanogenMod and I have had an itch for a bit of a change, that I decided now is a good time to give it a try.
I was hoping you guys might be able to help me clarify a few things first though.
I have Link2SD installed and setup. I have linked a couple of apps using and I was wondering if anyone knows how it works with Titanium Backup?
What I was hoping to be able to do was:
Code:
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Make a back up of some of my apps + their data using Titanium Backup - Some of these apps have been moved using Link2SD
2)
Install ClockworkMod Recovery and make a full nandroid backup.
3)
Make a backup of all the contents on my SD card - from the fat32 partition primarily.
4)
Install CyanongenMod using ROM Manager
5)
Redo the ext2 partition on my SD card and reinstall Link2SD once CyanogenMod has been installed
6)
Reinstall Titanium Backup and restore all the apps I backed up.
I was hoping that by doing the above I could hang onto all the custom settings I have in some of the apps.
For the apps that have been linked using Link2SD, will Titanium backup restore them properly as long as that ext2 partition on the SD card is there?? Or am I going to run into issues?
I have done some searching on these forums but there seems to be no clear cut answer.
Any help or advice would greatly be appreciated!
Thank you
You'll be fine - just make a full Titanium backup and a nandroid (just in case).
Do a full wipe, install CM with gapps, install your apps2sd, then restore your Titanium backup...
Titanium Backup will just restore the apps to the /data partition (or the ext if you have app2sdext enabled), but since link2sd is setting up individual symlinks for each app, those probably won't be carried over when you restore with Titanium Backup. You will have to redo those apps. But this may be time to look into a full app2sdext option. It is much simpler than link2sd and there aren't any noticeable performance hits (unless you do data2sd).
Good catch bass - I missed the Link2SD detail!
@danger-rat @bassmadrigal
Thank you guys for giving me some advice.. it is much appreciated!
So the app2sdext option can be done using dark tremor?
I was looking at dark tremor previously when I was trying to decide what method to use to relink apps.
Do you guys know of a good tutorial to go about setting it up? Is it done pre install of Cyanogen? Or post install?
My other concern about moving apps to the SD card using methods like link2sd and dark tremor is recently I had a situation where my ext2 partitions filesystem actually became corrupted. I ended up having to a 'fsck' on it to repair it ( I am pretty sure I got lucky with that ). Using the app2sdext do I still have the options to decide what I move to my SD card?
You can use Darktremor or S2E as the popular methods. S2E is a bit more intuitive (its an app in the market, with a front end GUI).
Install after you've installed CM.
As far as corrupt cards, just make sure you backup from time to time. Titanium or nandroid should do the trick. The advantage of having an ext partition is that once you have the partition, you can reformat it without losing your regular SD partition...
i would also recommend S2E, recently went from dt to
s2e and its working great.
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I remember seeing you mention s2e once before! At the time though I couldn't use it since I wasn't running CyanogenMod
That sounds like a good plan.
What do you think of this
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Do a Titanium Backup of my apps+their data
(including ones that have been moved using link2sd)
2)
When I install CyanogenMod, setup and install s2e
3)
Install Titanium Backup and start recovering my apps.
Since Titanium Backup should restore apps linked via
link2sd back to the default /data directory, I should just
be able to relink them using the s2e method?
I was wondering something else to actually.
@danger-rat you have mentioned in the past that you do not like the most recent version of the ClockworkMod recovery due to stability and reliability issues (I have seen a few other people say this as well). If this is still the case, can you recommend a version to install? From Rom Manager itself, can you choose a different version of ClockworkMod recovery to install?
Sorry for all the questions!
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Just after I posted this I noticed there is an option in Rom Manager "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" - It looks like this option will allow me to install older version of ClockworkMod?
I use CWM 2.5.1.4 and install via ROM Manager, just as you suggested...
Thank you sir for suggesting a version and confirming I can do it via ROM manager.
Hopefully I can try this in the next couple days. Will report back success/epic failures!
Thank you baseballfanz as well!
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Why posting a question in general section???
Thread moved.
hey sorry I wanted to ask one more question...
Since I plan on implementing s2e I will have to reformat my ext2 partition to ext3 or 4 (I think it said ext4..)
My question is, what should I do with my fat32 partition?
After I backup all the data on it, should I reformat it as well? Then after I get CyanogenMod installed, move back only what is important - Titanium backup directory for example? Or copy everything that was on it. There will probably be a lot of useless/old files on there that aren't really useful.
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Sorry Mr.Clown for posting in wrong section.. I'll post correctly next time!
i went from dt a2sd to s2e with no need to redo anything on my sd card. i had ext4 already.
if you use amon ra you can change ext 2 to ext 3 or ext 4.
Sorry, I was gone all day and away from a computer. Glad others chimed in. But to start, S2E and DarkTremor's a2sd both are not selective on which apps are installed to the sdcard. It is an all or nothing approach. That is the difference between app2sdext and link2sd. With S2E, you just install it and open the app. Select the checkboxes to move apps to the sdcard and then I recommend moving the dalvik cache as well (as it takes a lot of space). Reboot, and any apps you install/restore will be automagically put on the sdext partition.
And to answer your last question, if you already have an ext partition on your card, there is no reason to change it. It may say ext 3 or 4 is needed, but I am running ext2 on mine without any issues (I have been too lazy to take the time to change it). Just make sure the ext partition is wiped (which can be done in recovery under Mounts and Storage). The fat32 can be wiped, but it isn't necessary. Although, if it has been awhile, you may want to consider it, just to get rid of some of the stupid folders that devs can't figure out how to keep them out of the root of the card.
@bassmadrigal
thanks for the response man!
All or nothing eh? I will give it a try and hope for the best! At least then I will have more flexibility in the amount of apps that I can have!
I think I will just reformat the entire card since it has been a while. There is so much stuff on the card now I don't really know what is what anymore. I will keep a back up of it though juuuust in case.
I think the ext2 partition might have some files left over from link2sd so I think I might wipe it out as well and start again.
I have since removed all the apps I moved using link2sd just to calm my nerves a little bit (ha!).
I am currently trying to purchase titanium backup but it looks like maybe the market is having issues. It is stuck on "Authorizing purchase..." seems like a few people have had this.
In the mean time I will install the recovery image and do a nandroid backup!
Just as an FYI, if you redo your partitions (ie repartitioning your sdcard through the recovery), that will erase and format both partitions. I think by default, clockworkmod will do an ext2 partition, whereas Amon_RA gives you the option between ext3 and ext4. One thing to keep in mind, in the past, with ClockworkMod v3.x, it had been known to cause issues with partitioning cards. I don't know if that has been fixed in the v5.x, but I know it doesn't exist in v2.x and it also works properly in Amon_RA.
All or nothing really isn't a bad approach. I have a class 4 32GB Sandisk, and I don't seem to have any speed problems. Then, with some of the apps that have a large amount of data, I will move those individually with Titanium Backup. Two big ones are Google Earth (16MB of frickin data), and Firefox (I don't remember how much, but it is still a large amount). But I had to move those because I was running out of room in my internal memory (I have a lot of apps installed).
I was actually just about to update this thread!
I have been busy since my last post!
I have since installed clockworkmod recovery, done my backups, installed cyanogenmod, and am just in the process of going through it.
I FINALLY got titanium backup pro key to install.. I think there must have been something wrong between google and the titanium backup app, but after like 2 hours of trying it finally went through!
I think I am okay with the "All or nothing approach" as well. I know now that I need to start to take backups WAY more serious! So if I ever run into a situation where my ext partition dies, I won't be devastated!
I think what I will end up doing is reformatting it all tomorrow at work. I will turn the phone off, remove SD card, format using a Linux system at work, place card back in and go from there.
To restore my ROM Manager backup and my Titanium Backups I just have to copy those folders back to the SD card (after the format) from the backup I made of the SD card prior to formatting it (sorry if I am sounding repetitive, I can't tell if what I am saying will make sense to anyone other then myself lol + plus I am EXHAUSTED!)
That's awesome though its working for you. I have a class 10 8 gig kingston SDcard and so far its been great!
So when I setup s2e (I have it installed, but not configured!) I should select the check boxes "Applications, Private apps, and Dalvic Cache"?
You mentioned that you use Titanium Backup to move certain apps like Google Earth... I was just wondering in what direction you were moving them? From the phone to the SDcard, or from the SDcard to the phone? Sorry for probably another really stupid question I just wanted to make sure I was following you correctly!
Thank you again for all your help though. Things have gone smoothly so far
In S2E move applications, private apps, dalvik cache and optional too download cache.
As for moving data to sd card individually by Titanium, you are moving the data from internal memory to sd card
Yes, all you need to do is copy those folders back, but if you restore any of your nandroid backups, you will reset everything in your system back to the time before you installed S2E. So, I would only do that as a last resort. But, Titanium Backup does not have that limitation. It is just restoring the data to whatever the system is setup to do.
Once you do get everything up and running properly, it would be beneficial to do a nandroid. But as far as a lot of backups, you can set TB to run on a schedule to back up your phone every so often while you are asleep. And then, I just make sure I do a nandroid before I flash ANYTHING.
And ditto for what baseballfanz said. I never bothered with the download cache, as that is stored on a different partition within the phone (the /cache partition). Unless you resize all your partitions, it is probably pointless to move it. And yes, I am moving the data (ie the saved games/settings etc) for the app to the sdext partition with Titanium Backup, but you probably won't need to do this for a while (I have 213 user apps installed according to TB).
@bassmadrigal and @baseballfanz
Thanks guys for all your advice!
Sorry for the million's of question, I'm learning a lot from you guys though!
So.. Cheers!
Nandroid is similar to Acronis (imaging software) for PC so I definitely follow you when you say that restoring an Nandroid backup will erase anything I have done since doing that particular backup.
Good to know that moving those folders back onto the SDcard is all I have to do so now reformatting the card isn't as scary! Oh and I have to make sure I grab the Titanium Backup License file - Sorry I just read this is the old method!
I will definitely take your advice and produce a Nandroid backup once everything is up and running just in case! I have been thinking about it and I figured I could automate a backup of the Titanium Backup folder and the clockworkmod folder by using the rSync app. I could just copy everything to my NAS during the night, which would ensure I have two physical copies just incase my SD card decides to dead.
thanks for clarifying the direction of the data being moved using titanium backup. I figured it was that but wanted to be sure. I still have a lot of learning to do with that app to get fully familiar with it!
I'll be setting up my two new partition today and hopefully I can start restoring apps later this afternoon. Will report back my status.
Thanks again for the help!
cheers
Hi. First of all thanks guys for the CWM and instructions. Everything went smooth, and I'm already after my first backup, but I would appriciate a small clarification for me.
When I do "mount", does it mean that I tick the things I want to find it's way in this backup? If so, I have following question:
What does
1. eccm
2. sdcard
3. USB Storage
mean?
Many places call each differently, and it's worse that it changes when we talk in CWM terminology, so I would appriciate some clarification.
Also, I don't have "ext-sd" option in my mounting options, which some tutorials give, and I wanted to ask about that as well.
As for technical details. I have rooted phone, with Open Rom 2.3.6. The things I have in my backup directory I made are:
boot.img
recovery.img
system.ext4.tar
data.ext4.tar
.android_secure.vfat.tar
cache.ext4.tar
nandroid.md5
I chose everything but USB Storage, going with my gut. Was I correct?
cheers
Lucas
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Man I thing this link is useful:http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
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Thanks for the link and good reading. I learned much from it.
However, in the guide there, the terms used are still sdcard as the INTERNAL card. So while I know now what USB Storage in mounting option means, I still don't know, and there is no explanation in the guide in that linke, what these 2 reffer to:
What does
1. eccm
2. sdcard
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emmc is your internal sdcard. Normally, it is mounted to /sdcard.
sdcard is your external micro sd card. In Android, it is mounted to /sdcard/external_sd.
wintel_mac said:
emmc is your internal sdcard. Normally, it is mounted to /sdcard.
sdcard is your external micro sd card. In Android, it is mounted to /sdcard/external_sd.
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Awsome, thanks a lot for clarification.
One follow up question. If I mount the sdcard, so my external card, it won't backup the content of ext sd card as well into my backup? What I mean is, I don't want to break something, by trying to make a backup that includes over 20GB of stuff on my external memory card.
Also, I looked over polish forum of android, and someone told me, that there is no need to mount/unmount stuff as the backup that is made, is made all the time the same, no matter the mounting options. Strange a bit. Is it true what he said?
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Lucas
Don't know exactly how it is implemented for your device (9000, I'm on 9001) but external SD cards are normally never backed up (which would not make any sense at all btw, since you might even backup the backup you're doing at that moment^^).
When you take a look at the structure of an CWM backup folder, you realize that also your internal sd card is not backed up (aside from .asec).
And yes, it is not ncecessary to mount anything for backup or restore purposes. CWM does what is necessary to perform the desired actions.
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Don't know exactly how it is implemented for your device (9000, I'm on 9001) but external SD cards are normally never backed up (which would not make any sense at all btw, since you might even backup the backup you're doing at that moment^^).
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I'm on i9001 as well
When you take a look at the structure of an CWM backup folder, you realize that also your internal sd card is not backed up (aside from .asec).
And yes, it is not ncecessary to mount anything for backup or restore purposes. CWM does what is necessary to perform the desired actions.
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I see...
But if that is the case, what's the point of mounting the eccm as well as sdcard if they are not backed up to begin with?
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You can connect over adb to the phone and perform varous actions. And it makes no sense to mount every partition you may need with commands such as
"mount -o rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p15 /system" as you would have to remember where each file system resides.
So you can do it with few keypresses on the phone.
Moreover, there are some custom update-zips that do not do the mounting for you, so it would be necessary to apply them, too.
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You can connect over adb to the phone and perform varous actions. And it makes no sense to mount every partition you may need with commands such as
"mount -o rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p15 /system" as you would have to remember where each file system resides.
So you can do it with few keypresses on the phone.
Moreover, there are some custom update-zips that do not do the mounting for you, so it would be necessary to apply them, too.
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I think I know what you mean. You are saying that there are other actions that require mounting, not backup in this case, and it's much easier to do it automaticly through cwm, rather than doing it manualy with linux lingo.
Thanks for the explanations.
Just one clarrification at the end. When I do backup with CWM, do I need to do any mounting, or it's done automaticly now and it mounts everything it needs to, to do backup?
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Lucas
wintel_mac said:
And yes, it is not ncecessary to mount anything for backup or restore purposes. CWM does what is necessary to perform the desired actions.
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As I wrote before
wintel_mac said:
As I wrote before
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Awsome. Thank you wintel_mac so much, for very detailed answers.
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