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Please be patient, I am new to HTC and WM6 and I'm hoping to get some recommendations
I have about 4GB of music on my micro SD that I copied off my iPod, so it's in acc format which the audio manager doesn't recognize. I downloaded TCPMP and the acc plugin and it plays the music but its doesn't show the song info (title, artist etc) till you open the song.
Also you can't search by artist, or genre like you can in audio manager
Can anyone recommend a good audio player or someway to get audio manager to recognize acc files
I really prefer opera mini over IE but I have to go into the java app first to select it, is there anyway to get an opera shortcut onto the start screen
I really appreciate any advice or tips for the newbie questions
Opera Mobile is designed for smartphones and should give you a regular icon to load it with, mini is made primarily for regular phones with only their crappy build in browsers which is why it works only in java.
iTunes music is the most annoying on planet earth. You can convert it to mp3 or delete the DMA off of it to allow it to play properly but its time consuming and annoying. I dont know of any plugin for Audio Manager that will allow you to play the iTunes music, only what other people have created for other players.
Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.
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Now if these songs were once full on mp3's or cd's that you copied into iTunes you would be better off copying / ripping those files over to the sd card.
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Yeah most of it is CD rips, I was hoping to avoid having to rip them again
When you initially ripped them did you tell iTunes to connect to the net and pull the information and creat an id3 tag for it? If not then thats why none of the track info is pulling over. iTunes will read the title / cd / artist name off the disct but when you use them as mp3's or in other players I have heard of some issues with the information not being read properly...
All my music is in mp3, ogg, FLAC and other formats on my computer, if my wife wants anything she pulls it over. She has bought some things off iTunes but they are such a pain to use elsewhere that eh.
You should have set ITunes to only rip to MP3 for compatibility reasons such as this. I'm not too sure what/if anything can read aac files on Windows Mobile. I know their is a way to get Opera Mini's icon as well as a way to have it function as your default browser (that is clicking on hyperlinks in e-mails, sms, ect) bring you to Opera Mini. There's quite a lot of info on that if you search.
As far as Opera Mobile, yea it may be designed for Smartphone, and yea it may be better than IE, but it does not in anyway compete with Opera Mini in terms of speed and website rendering.
Hi All,
A few days ago, a client of mine brought me back his diamond saying that the music player was not working.
After more than 8 hours of trying to fix this issue by trying everything I could find on this forum and every possible solution my imagination could think of, I'm left no other choice than asking the community for help.
When ever I put a large amount of files on the storage card (around 3Gb) and use the TF3D interface to play the music, Audiomanger_eng.exe crashes (sometime other files crash but I forgot the names).
Now, I have tried pretty much everything:
1. I tried both WMP 11 to transfer the files and the direct copy/paste of the files to the storage card.
2. I tried putting another set of songs coming from a different PC
3. I tried having all the songs together in the same folder (that caused even more issues as album arts were overlapping) and I tried the WMP function to get each songs in its correct subfolder (ie: artist... Album...).
4. I tried deleting the database file of the AudioManager (which causes it to rescan all the files which it does but then crashes as it tries to play certain songs)
5. I tried on two different Diamonds, using 1.93 in English (HK), 1.93 in French, TOM_DiamondProject_v3.2, Dutty's latest rom. Through this I tried the original HARD SPL of HTC and also Olinex and another guy's one. (All the test I did using these various ROM created approximatively the same error though varied slightly from one ROM to the other)
6. I have also tried a million soft reset and hard resets.
7. I have tried loading the music in Windows Media Player Mobile which works perfectly but does not change anything to the problem I have with the TF3D player.
8. Following stevedpl7's comment, I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset. When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. In the music list, I can see all the transferred files.
9. And many other small things....
Any idea or suggestions?
Just a quick question about where you are putting the music files?
I have exactly the same problem if i save my music foldes to Internal Storage\Music (which is where WMP saves them by default)
However when i created a 'My Music' folder in the Internal Storage\My Documents All worked fine. So Try....
Internal Storage\My Documents\My Music\''your music here''
As i said you may well have to create the 'My Music' folder, on my Diamond only My Pictures and My Videos were there by default.
Hope this helps.
I have the same problem, the only thing I can put it down to is the new 1.93 ROM from HTC, as it was working fine until I flashed the phone with this ROM.
I have tried the solutions above and it still isn't working, so if anybody else has further ideas please let me know, if not I'll wait for the official word back from HTC and post their solutions up here also.
Sadly, it didn't work either for me
Thanks you Stevedpl7 for the info, sadly I have tried and the problem even got worse
I went in the file explorer, created a new folder called My Music, then I cut and paste all the music from Storage/Music to Storage/My Music, went to the application data/HTC/AudioManager_eng/ and deleted the database file: AudioManager_Eng.vol, then I did a soft reset.
When I now go to the music Tab, it crashes before I even get a chance to play a song. I the music list, I can see all the transfered files.
Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!
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Are those files made from scratch on your or the customer's PC, or were they downloaded from the Internet? I know that some downloaded MP3s are defective, furthermore some players do not understand all variations of the MP3-format like VBR, joint stereo et al. There is no strict "standard" for MP3, the technology has developed over the years and no one has made an attempt to define "levels" as they did with MPG-2 or with DivX. So there is always a level of uncertainty whether a player is able to play all files. A resampling with a MP3-software or even converting them from MP3 to WMA might help.
It's always a good idea to use WMP on the PC to create MP3 or WMA. Not because it excels in quality, but because it uses very standard features in the format.
Have fun!
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They are mainly downloaded MP3s and a few WMAs. When I transfer the files using WMP, some are converted. The thing is that all these files work fine in Windows Media Player on the Phone.
I just realised that there is a possibility that if your MP3's has the album artwork embedded into the files. the audio manager would crash.
currently i'm doing a trial and error of it and have yet to fully test everything out just yet.
would anyone like to comment or verify if the embedded artwork might be the cause of crashes?
I think you are right. I have tried putting one song with the artwork embeded and it crashes the software!!!
erm. and yet. i did manage to sneak in one album with an embedded artwork. :\
but that was 1. i tried it with another album with the embedded artwork and had a crash.
I'm now thinking about giving up and installing TF3D config tool to hide the music tab and then install the old audio manager to play the music
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407145&highlight=audiomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
This is painful...
just spent 3 hours trying to figure out which mp3's work and which doesnt.
like wth... i dont get it. someone please assist in explaining how audio manager works ?
Same problem here, anyone knows how to solve this?
Note even the original demo tunes work
Audiomanager worked fine before (1.37 ROM), but when I updated to 1.93.413.3 SVE not even the "built in" demo tunes work. It just hangs on the first tune... Removing the .vol file does not solve the problem. Windows Media player can play the tunes without problems.
Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/
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Use MP3Tag to mass delete all coveralbum info from your MP3 files on the PC side and then resync everything back using WMP. This solved all freezing problems with the TF Audio Manager for me. MP3Tag can be found here: http://www.mp3tag.de/
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Confirmed that this method does work
Works but people embed album art coz they want it to show up in the AudioManager in the first place. Now the only way to do is, is to extract the album art, rename it to folder.jpg and put it in the song's album folder. This is a really huge hassle especially if u've got tons of files embedded with album art....
Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?
cornwall said:
Did you find a solution in the end ?
This issue is not tolerable for such a ppc... .
So if I happen to copy too many albums or mp3 files, my phone would crash and won't be the music ?
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U have to remove your embedded album art from your mp3 first before transferring, and then extract that album art and put it in the same folder as the mp3 with the name folder.jpg. A huge hassle for people who have a huge collection of mp3s with embedded artwork.
Anyways, I've written to HTC Tech Support about this and "strongly suggested" to them a ROM update for this issue.
Audio Manager crash with mp3 in VBR mode ! I've converted my mp3 in CBR mode, and all went ok !
Is there a better solution to this than removing the embedded artwork?
Hey guys im not sure if there's a sticky or how-to here on the forums on how to add music from your computer to your g1... if there isn't can someone please explain how? thanks
Just copy any mp3 files to the SD card, the apps on the v1.5 of Android will search out any mp3 files, if you are still using v1.0/1.1 I forget the app I used to use, but there should be several available from Android Market for free.
can i get 1.5 without having a rooted phone? if so how?
Don't need to be on 1.5, 1.0 (RC19-RC30) and 1.1 (RC33) will do. Just dump the mp3s into a directory named "Music" on the root of the sdcard. The mp3s can be in any depth of directory. The music app will automatically index them and show album art if present. Android presents the sdcard as a mass storage class device, so any program that can manage such a device can also manage a music library on the sdcard.
thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
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thanks! im stupid for not realizing how to do it in the first place lol
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Or used to something much more convulted...
DoubleTwist
There is also a program called DoubleTwist which will let you copy music that you have downloaded from iTunes over to you phone as well. It is completely free but it requires registration.
Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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Every mass-market consumer device has uninformed or inexperienced users. That's just natural. I'm okay with seeing newbie questions in the General or App&Games forums, but it does irritate me to see them in the Dev forum. Especially since every other post is a problem related to A2SD or not wiping on an upgrade.
This is getting offtopic.
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Right this isn't an ipod.
P.s. do the lazy/stupid owners of the almighty G1 annoy the piss out of anyone else? I see it here (a developer not a user forum), the market, other forums, etc.
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IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
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IDK if this was a jab at things not being complex, but I for one am totally in favor of a system that makes sense- i.e. being able to put music anywhere on the phone and the phone will find it.
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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I'm not, then you get ringtones being played etc, if I could have my ringtone on another partition etc it wouldn't matter but normal system apps don't find or use ringtones from anywhere else but on the sdcard
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
It's just linux/android is so simple to use, just most people are so used to the backwards ways of microsoft, or apple, that they don't stop to think that it juat may be that simple.
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Not at all. I mean with android, or most mp3 players all you do is drag and drop. With the ipod you need to download the music, convert, add to itunes, connect device, wait for sync, or something to that effect (never used an ipod, not into marketing hype or using a product JUST because it's trendy).
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You just said what I said in a previous comment where I said "a convulted process", it's not that linux or any of the MP3 players offer a simple process but Apple makes the process convulted for their own ends to lock the user into their devices and software.
resurrecting an oldish thread instead of starting a new one.
Most of my music is copied over onto my G1. Sometimes it finds album art and sometimes it doesn't. I can't seem to get manually copied thumbnail pics to be recognized by the music or htcmusic apps. Is there a way to fill in missing album art?
What I do, since I've had all my music organized on itunes, is add it to iTunes
And have it automatically search for the album art.
If i can't find it just go to google and search for the artist and album in images
And drag and drop to the song.
OR
Right Click and select get info,
And on the last tab I believe is the album art.
And just copy and paste, or drag and drop from the browser, the album art..
From there just drag and drop the song to your SD card, pretty easy..
And for the people saying its a convoluted process, its not.
Just double click the song, or add the song to iTunes, connect the iPod and it automatically syncs.
Or like I do and manually manage my iPod, just drag and drop.
Simple.
I ran into this problem recently and found a unified solution. My ipod uses Rockbox so it syncs with music players the same way my G1 does. I use iTunes to keep my library organized and for importing new music and getting album artwork and then use winamp to sync it to my phone and ipod. Since doing it this way I have no problems with missing artwork or any other syncing issues.
these both sound look good ideas but I'd have to actually commit to an application for managing my library. My wife has Itunes set up for her ipod and I've always hated Itunes. I suppose there is a way to have two separate libraries for two different users and their assorted devices in Itunes? or maybe not.
I was able to pull album art in winamp for my files, so maybe I can sync just the albums I need to update.
MP3 to G1
I use Sailing Media Sync to add music on my G1. You can choose what playlist from itunes you want to have it synced with. It transfers the album art as well.
http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/Mac/
I prefer this than dragging and dropping. This is for the Mac but I do think they came out with a PC version.
So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
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I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.
Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!
Hi guys......I've been using Apex 5.3 and I've noticed something......You make a playlist in your favorite music player and then reboot the phone, after the reboot and the media scanner, you check the playlist and there are no songs in the playlist!!..............I've notted that it just happens in Android 2.2 Froyo, when i was whit a GB ROM It didn't happen...... I would like to know if there is any way to avoid this!.....It's annoying making the same playlist a lot of times!!! I would appreciate you to Help Me
And....sorry for my bad English ...........If you don't understand my words tell me please I'm just learning and i'm from Mexico!! Greetings
I have similar issue with mixzing. Playlists are lost after flashing roms. Any suggestion on how to preserve my playlists
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I have similar issue with mixzing. Playlists are lost after flashing roms. Any suggestion on how to preserve my playlists
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Your playlist are usually saved on your sd card as a little file. You could back it up and re-open it after flashing a new ROM.
Might be different with different player tho, I haven't tested it. Just my though on it as I don't use playlist
Do you know where I can find this file???
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Do you know where I can find this file???
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Usually would be in a folder created by your music player (with the name of your music player). Although, like I mentionned, I don't use playlist so I'm not sure where they would be placed
I'm going to go ahead and mention this now:
This is an issue relating to the media scanner. It is not specific to any one application, phone, or ROM. I've done a ton of searching on Google for an answer, and it is obviously not restricted and seems to come from the media scanner. Winamp, Songbird, PowerAMP, Instinctiv, Android Music, etc... all seem to have this problem.
As far as I know, there is no fix. Your best bet is to get an app that will let you sync playlists from your computer, and sync regularly. If you use an app that saves playlists as .m3u, you can create a new folder called .NoMedia, and media scanner will ignore it, and thus, not try to update it. If your app does not create playlist files, your playlists are stored in a database file and you're really out of luck.
Please, if anyone knows of a fix, please help!
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I'm going to go ahead and mention this now:
This is an issue relating to the media scanner. It is not specific to any one application, phone, or ROM. I've done a ton of searching on Google for an answer, and it is obviously not restricted and seems to come from the media scanner. Winamp, Songbird, PowerAMP, Instinctiv, Android Music, etc... all seem to have this problem.
As far as I know, there is no fix. Your best bet is to get an app that will let you sync playlists from your computer, and sync regularly. If you use an app that saves playlists as .m3u, you can create a new folder called .NoMedia, and media scanner will ignore it, and thus, not try to update it. If your app does not create playlist files, your playlists are stored in a database file and you're really out of luck.
Please, if anyone knows of a fix, please help!
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The only solution I've found is FLASHING A GINGERBREAD ROM...I haven't had problems about this in Gingerbread........But I think they are still a little unstables!! :S
I'm having the same problem with FroYo and PowerAmp on my Captivate but the problem only occurs when I unmount and re-mount the SD cards and then the media scanner runs. If I reboot on the phone normally the scanner leaves the playlists in tact.
If you're using PowerAmp there's actually a 2 different settings that fix this, under Advanced Folder options: No System Scan For Folders, and Create /MusicFolders. For the first one you just select which folders you want to exclude from the scanner, for the latter it creates said folder (on both SD cards) and then you need to move your music to the MusicFolders folder(s). I suppose the former is easier if you have your music spread out over both SD cards or just don't feel like moving your music underneath another subfolder. The trade-off to this is that you lose use of the System Library and can only use Folder Playlists.
I used the Create /MusicFolders option, moved all my mp3s under it, created a couple of playlists with a few songs each. Unmounted/re-mounted the SD cards and also rebooted the phone and let the media scanner run both times and the Folder Playlists were untouched. Hopefully there's a fix eventually but for now, I can live with cumbersome functionality of using only folders since I only use playlists and very rarely shuffle all the songs on my phone. Not having to spend a half hour recreating playlists is more than worth the tradeoff.