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GPS Not functioning

I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings and doing softresets,even took out the battery for a while
Not a single program can find my inbuilt gps now
I do not want to do a hard reset,I have tooo many progs and no backup
Please help

I am afraid to use any other gps program(even after a hard reset) because this could ruin my gps settings
I read somewhere that gps applet is misconfigured(from factory)..and even a slight modification to it,could lead to my gps not functioning till a hard-reset.
Also it's not normal that a program can modify the gps'settings by itself

I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.

Lidberg said:
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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Thank you for the info..
Are you sure this is the only gps program that messes up the gps?
Did you test Igo,GpsTuner,GpsGate,Pathaway professional,GeoScout??
But Gloposis,BeeLine gps??
Any other incompatibilities?
Thx

I haven't tested all of those. Here's what I have on my phone right now:
FFF (finger friendly friends)
Google Maps
Live Search
GPS test
GPS Utilities
GPS viewer
GPSinfo
Navigator II
TomTom 6
TrackMe
Virtual Earth
VisualGPSce
I think the other ones will be safe. Map4PDA is the only one I've heard of that kills the Kaiser GPS.

A hard reset is your only option and shouldnt be a nightmare.
Work out what apps you want, check you have the cabs etc, sync your device with your pc and away you go.
I keep all my favourite apps cabs on my storage card so that I could hard reset even if away from my laptop (but I do have an exchange server so setting up sync remotely is also easy).

Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..

emariu said:
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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I too noticed that using different GPS software tends to screw up something on my Tilt. I've used Google Maps and MS Live Search and these tend to screw things up to the point that the GPS is useless. I also have Copilot Live 7 installed and this program has the ability to reset the GPS on my device.
For those not familiar with Copilot, when you go to the Settings panel in Copilot and choose Reset GPS, it asks you to enter a city within 100 miles of your current location in order to reset your GPS properly. If someone could develop an app to replicate this... This would be a great standalone app for all Tilt & variant owners.

But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..

what about a backup? make a backup before you install an app that you don't know if it works or not, install/run app, if all is good, no worries. if all is bad, restore from backup.
the Tilt ROM comes with sprite backup and htc backup is flating around this forum...

emariu said:
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
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Not sure how this works, but I've been able to get my GPS working again every time with this feature.

If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.

In the external GPS settings programs tab set to 4800, in the hardware tab gps hardware port select none, baud rate should be at 4800. In te access tab tick manage gps automatically.
Load the TomTom app that comes with the Kaiser or download it from here. go to config on the gps settings within TomTom and it will right itself

Make a backup of the registry and put is back in this situations, easy and fast when you try different programs.
Btw Igo works fine also Nusa maps (Indonesia), Map King pro and Papa Go..

unwired4 said:
If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
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That's not true in every circumstance. Like the OP, I installed Map4PDA. When you run the program, it searches for the GPS (you can't specify what COM port to use manually) and in my case, hangs on COM3 for whatever reason. I let it sit for over an hour and ended up doing a soft reset because the program was unresponsive.
After that, my GPS would not work in ANY program that it worked in previously. I checked and double-checked my settings to no avail. I posted here and on MoDaCo and got some good advice but in the end, only a hard reset fixed it. Yes, the GPS light would blink but my Tilt would run very, very slowly and would never get a fix. That QuickGPS program would error out every time I ran it. I don't know what Map4PDA did, but it hosed my GPS and it looks like the OP got bit too.
Since my last hard reset, I have installed tons of GPS enabled programs and they all work just fine. I also have never run QuickGPS and I can get a fix within 10 seconds in any program.
I know it's not logical, but that is what worked for me.
EDIT: I don't advocate the spreading of paid for s/w, but I would be curious to see if your CoPilot program would successfully reset the OP's GPS.

If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...

emariu said:
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
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COM4, 4800 baud

this com 4 is a program port,it's not the harware gps (native) port..
can we find out which port number is the default(hardware)?
But thnks anyway for the answers

COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.

Lidberg said:
COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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I use GpsGate anyway,so using multiple gps programs at once isn't a problem for me,BUT because I cannot use hardware port, we are stucked with 4800 baudrate,which is a limitation only with soft multiplexer(built in the OS)

Quick GPS Diamond

Hi to all
I've the same problem that many people have, as I've seen here in the forum.
Quick gps doesn't update anymore. I've tried all the registry tweaks that I've found but nothing. I've written to HTC but they don't have answered.
I've tried quickgps from kaiser but without success. So, I should do an Hard reset but I want avoid it. Is there someone that has the cab for the diamond's quickgps ? I've seeked here and in other forums but I don't have have found anything. Perhaps reinstalling the original cab should resolve the problem.
My quickgps version is 1.0 build 1815.2630. Rom is 1.37 official from HTC, italian.
Thank you very much to all

here you , QuickGPS 1.04

indie said:
here you , QuickGPS 1.04
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Thanks a lot
Now I go to test it !

indie said:
here you , QuickGPS 1.04
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Sorry, but perhaps I don't have explained myself well.
The file you've attached is GPStest to test gps connection. I am seeking quickgps, the cab that allows internal gps to fix faster.
Sorry for misunderstanding

you can get it from here i think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355277

indie said:
you can get it from here i think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355277
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Thanks a lot, but I have tried it yet. I think that only the specific version for diamond go. When i try to install another version it says me "digital signature with certified reliable not available" etc.
Perhaps because another version is yet installed, but, being in rom, it's impossible to uninstall it. So I wanted the same version installed to overwrite it hoping it will function well.

QuickGPS connection failed
hi all.
i am also having some trouble with my touch diamond (p3700) & quickGPS.
i've had the p3700 for 2 months, and so far so good. i used quickGPS when i first got the p3700 and all worked well. i have loads of apps installed, and around 5 GPS included ie. GarminXT, Route66, iGO8, MapKing2007 etc. all have been working well.
yesterday i decided to update the packedEphemeris data via quickGPS, and after multiple attempts, each attempt would advise "Connection failed try again later"
the next thing i have noticed is that all my GPS apps cannot connect to satellites any more. i tried by leaving my p3700 connected in my car with a clear view of the sky, and even after an hour or more, none of the GPS apps successfully ocked onto any satellites.
in comparison, my other HTC (artemis) p3300 was able to lock onto satellites within a few minutes or less with any of the same GPS apps, also i downloaded the latest packedEphemeris data via quickGPS successfully while i attempted to do so with p3700 yesterday and today. so i know its not anything to do with wifi et al. connections etc.
nothing new has been installed, nor uninstalled on the touch diamond...
so whats up with that???
i have sent an email to HTC support and am awaiting their advice.
i really don't want to have to resort to a hard reset, as installing all those apps will take me a day.
anyone can post their quickGPS reg folder please... from their TOUCH DIAMOND
thanX

I have had this problem where Quick GPS will not update, either from ActiveSync (as it did automatically before), via WIFI or 3G/HSPDA. Whilst at the same I found that You Tube will no longer work so there is definitely some issue with it. By doing a hard reset got it to work again but I think at some point it will stop, so any answers will be most useful (for us all!).

GPS and Internet calling
Everything was working fine unless I installed WM6 Voip application to use my Diamond to make internet calling, thereafter no GPS recognition by tom tom and no luck with Quick GPS as well. Hard resetting the device solved the problem and again I installed the WM 6 Voip application and again no luck with GPS. I did that three times and concluded that unlocking WM 6 Voip feature blocks GPS ports. If you are using WM 6 Voip then you might not be able to use GPS as I experienced.

I have the same problem:the quick gps won't update.If you find anything as a solution please inform!

Solution with Quick GPS update.WORKS!
This solution works and has nothing to do with registry hacks,installing cabs etc..Well lets start:
1)Open Internet Explorer from your Diamond(Start-->Internet Explorer)
2)From the Favourites menu go to the HTC web page(should load,normaly)
You are done!Go to the quick gps and now you can update as before!(It seems that the Diamond losts his way to the internet but as soon as you go to the HTC page,the way described here,the problem is solved!)

thanks for that, just tried it and it worked perfectly!!

Very weird, I had the same problem and the IE trick worked.
Thank you, elflost

I'm having the same issue with quickgps not updating and getting a a connection error. I tried the IE trick but it still didn't work. Any other ideas?

OMG that's crazy!
I was trying all sorts of things and I just opened IE (first time I ever have as I've been using Opera instead) and now both QuickGPS and the YouTube are working again.
Thanks very much for posting, now I don't have to waste anymore of my evening looking for solutions.
Cheers.

The trick with IE solved the issue with me too. That's a bit weird, every other programs are able to find the internet connection through wifi..

lazerin said:
I'm having the same issue with quickgps not updating and getting a a connection error. I tried the IE trick but it still didn't work. Any other ideas?
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Same for me... However I didn't have HTC in my favs... But I tried entering manually and still no luck

it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quick GPS (and you tube) not working
Excellent ! excellent congratulations ! It worked for me too !! I wish HTC support were a bit more awake and gave some basic but good afvises ! THANK YOU !

Fantastic post - worked perfectly on my Diamond running Google Maps. Thank you!

GPS running but without any effect...

Since I bought my Diamond, last week, I haven't been able to get a single fix.
Even worse, although my GPS is detected as running by every GPS soft, there is only one sattelit bar active at a time.
(about 10 satelits are being sensed, but only one is actually sending datas to my device, every time...)
I've never expericenced such problems with my preivous triny. There were always at least 3 or more bars moving up and down at a time, and at the end I could get some fix.
- either it is a hardware problem and I got a crap GPS chipset...
- or it is a setting problem with my ROM.
By the way, in the External GPS settings screen, I have strange infos:
Port GPS: com4 which is normal, GPS Material Port: None!!
baud rate: 4800 (which I think is very low, but I heard everybody has got the same)
What's wrong with my device?

Seems to be lots of posts on this issue...a nice simple one is to flash a new radio.....if that doesn't work do a Hard Reset (to be sure!) and restore to minimum and see if it runs.....then move on from there....

I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry

Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...

riri22 said:
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
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....I'm about to revert back to the 07 radio (from 08) as it did not give me the same sat pickup as 07....you can also try the HTC GPS Tool and run a COLD start...I understand this wipes the data and restarts as advised previously...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
...lot of other goodies here

The Doctor said:
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
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I have a similar problem from time to time.A lot of data received from 10-12 satellites but a fix only after a long long time. In comparison with the Garmin Gps I have the sensitivity of the Diamond GPS receiver is good, but the algoritm is not. Diamond radio is .05
I have the same problem if i delete the log file and update with quick GPS.
It seems that the algorithm in the radio sometimes is not able to converge easily to a fix.

My tomtom was working just Excellent on my diamond, than i did a hard reset and no gps, 1 bar for over 1 hour, so reflashed the same rom again 1.93.405 still same problem, so flashed 1.93.401 and bingo it works again. after a nother hard reset 1.93 401 rom gps wont work angin, this time the 1.93 405 rom fixed it. ( all WWE roms)
no idea why this happend.. when the diamond gps works its excellent (better than most tomtom units) but thants only when it works.
as the gps feature is very importent to me, i now have a back up bluetooth gps incase inbuilt gps fails.
and with out quick gps i find its aloms impossible to get a lock.
I only hope HTC fic this issue if not this will have been my first and last HTC product.
Any tips welcomed

Hi mates,
First of all thanks for the link and the goodies, in fact I had already found some datas since many Diamond users seem to have similiar problems with their device.
I agree this is obviously a mistake of HTC to have put a defectuous part in their phone.
1) My problem even went worse yesterday after I flashed the last HK WWE ROM: my GPS wasn't even sensed by the softs!
No NMEA datas blabla...
2)
many hard reset and reflash couldn't fix the problem. I was about to give up when i found info about that HTC GPS TOOL I had never heard about.
After using it for quite a while, at least my GPS was finally sensed and 'some' datas received, though it wasn't enough to get a proper satelit bar, not to mention a fix...
3)
So now I'm back to the same point: no fix or proper reception available, although I'm already quite happy that my GPS is detected again!
3)
I got back to the same stock radio, x.x.5 but no matter which one I use, I can't see when I'm going to have a a fix with that whimsical GPS!

SOLVED!!!
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS

Hello ! (I am french)
I have a HTC Diamond P3700 and Tomtom Navigator 7.910 + western Europe 1GB map.
This map map is not recognized ? How repair ? Thanks

MMS / EMAIL MSVC stopped working! HELP

Hi everyone..
I am a somewhat profiecient Tilt user.. had a few windows mobile phones before.. and had my tilt over a year.. I never had any problems with the WM 6.0 rom so I never upgraded it.... But now I ahve a problem... Today my GPS wasn;t locking on so I reset the phone, and as usualy it fixed the problem.. but now my messaging (and email) won;t work...
I have the HTC Home Installed (been installed a long time) and I use the buttons on the clock screen on it to access my MMS and Email... I went to send a txt and it did nothing.. I thought hte phone was froze.. but other stuff works.. I tried email next.. same problem... It also says the MSVC has encountered a problem and that is not working either.. it all happened at the same time....
The real problem is I have my phone EXACTLY how I wanted it.. with this tweek and that tweek... This program and that program.. this setting & that setting... sigh... I have an odd provider (Einstein PCS) so I had to set up all custom MMS, Email, Internet, and other setting that took a long time to get them all just "right"... I thought the SD card may have went, but other software that I know is on the SD card runs fine (including tomtom)... Any suggestions from anyone before I do hard reset? Please.. I don;t want to have to redo everything...

Retrace your steps
Hi
I have found that when something stops working after installing new software, if I uninstall any software, in the reverse order it was installed, this usually restores functionality. Uninstalling one piece of software at a time and running trials in between uninstallations usually helps to identify the culprit. If you haven't actually installed new software to co-inside with the failure then this advice is no good for you.
For future reference I would recommend using Sprite Backup (I think that the latest version is 6.5 and can be found on their website). With this software you can make a back up of your existing configuration prior to installing any new software. Then, if anything goes wrong you can just hard reset and run the backup file (stored as an .exe file) from the storage card and you'll get back to exactly where you were before the install.
Hope all that helps.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

Thanks for the advice but I did nto install anything.... I will get that sprite backup though for future use... thank you.... What I did find this morning is this...
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/107262...&maxResults=20
It seems many other people have had MOST of the same problem... When I followed the directions and deleted the inbox om my SD card, it fixed everything... even the Microsoft Voice command.. no idea how they are related, but it must be.... The only problem is that now after doing all this research on new ROMs, I found one I want to try... now I gotta decide if I want to go through all that work if I don;t have to... I think I will do the sprite backup.. download a default at&T 6.0 rom if I can find one.. then TRY The new rom.. if I hate it.. install the default rom and resotre my settings.. Thansk for you help though

Teej53214 said:
Hi everyone..
I am a somewhat profiecient Tilt user.. had a few windows mobile phones before.. and had my tilt over a year.. I never had any problems with the WM 6.0 rom so I never upgraded it.... But now I ahve a problem... Today my GPS wasn;t locking on so I reset the phone, and as usualy it fixed the problem.. but now my messaging (and email) won;t work...
I have the HTC Home Installed (been installed a long time) and I use the buttons on the clock screen on it to access my MMS and Email... I went to send a txt and it did nothing.. I thought hte phone was froze.. but other stuff works.. I tried email next.. same problem... It also says the MSVC has encountered a problem and that is not working either.. it all happened at the same time....
The real problem is I have my phone EXACTLY how I wanted it.. with this tweek and that tweek... This program and that program.. this setting & that setting... sigh... I have an odd provider (Einstein PCS) so I had to set up all custom MMS, Email, Internet, and other setting that took a long time to get them all just "right"... I thought the SD card may have went, but other software that I know is on the SD card runs fine (including tomtom)... Any suggestions from anyone before I do hard reset? Please.. I don;t want to have to redo everything...
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Do you have your Einstein settings. I haven't been able to get my Fuze to connect reliably. I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks!

no wifi and quick GPS doesn't work

hello all.
no matter what the wifi doesn't want to come on in the comm manager. Even if it's clear storage booted. And gps as well doesn't work. what do I need to change/replace/repair?
any help appreciated

mines is doin the same exact thing but i can get wifi just no gps

You tried changing the rom or radio?

thats my next stop im shoppin for a good one now

I found quickGPS stopped working (continually failed to update and said it had never been run) after I updated the installed version of TomTom Navigator from 6 to 7 recently. In the end a hard reset and reinstall of TTN 7 fixed that. It was a simple process for me as my setup is standard other than the addition of TTN. If you want to resolve it by fiddling around with registry entries and cabs etc, then we need to know what changes were made immediately before the problems arose.

I think it may be a hardware issue more than software.
also kaiser tweak installs about 50% of the time when doing a hard reset. it can't find 1~temp file or so..
I think i'll just deal with and move to the X10/android. Windows doesn't care anymore and i'll never buy an apple product so android it is..
BTW, where can I buy a mainboard for the tytnII?

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I think it may be a hardware issue more than software.
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What makes you think that?
I think i'll just deal with and move to the X10/android.
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If you've got the money to splash out on a new phone then that's one option but why not save yourself some cash and try to get what you have working properly by spending as little money as possible first?
BTW, where can I buy a mainboard for the tytnII?
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There you are keen to spend loads of money again. If it's just a mainboard that's required then you're best bet is to find a TyTN II which has failed through some cause other than the motherboard and use it for parts. By all means check prices with your HTC repair centre but it won't be cheap new.
Now, this is something I should have mentioned from the word go, in order to provide any sort of meaningful assistance, we need to know what ROM/Radio and SPL is on the device now and have any changes to these occurred? If you don't know how to find this out, check the xda-wiki for further info and may the force be with you. You mention wifi and quickGPS in the subject yet GPS (ie the navigation application itself) in the content, which is it?

I just have the ATT software that came with the tilt. I don't have a backup phone and have no experience with Romming so i've put it off. Maybe I should look into and give it a go...maybe that will fix my wifi/no quickGPS connection.
I think I do want to get the X10 because of the rez and screen and keep the Tilt as a backup.
thanks for the help.

Time to call AT&T if reading the wiki and hard resetting fails
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I just have the ATT software that came with the tilt.
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You haven't mentioned what network you're connected through but if it's not AT&T (ie someone has unlocked the phone), then you will have some problems with the default ROM. If you do use it with AT&T then if you've already read all the relevant xda-wiki pages here related to the Tilt (it has its own page and you should definitly read it) and are still getting the problems you've described even after a hard reset (try the D Pad button method), why not see what AT&T have to say about things? I suspect a hard reset will fix it though if there have been no changes to the ROM/Radio or the SPL and you're with AT&T.

Internal GPS problems
I have also problems with the internal GPS of my TyTn II.
I changed the housing of my TyTn II because the old one was pretty trashed.
Now when I have new housing, the GPS doesn't work anymore.
Everything else is working just fine except that damn internal GPS.
I've tried three different navigation software which I have in my phone's storage card, TomTom 7, Garmin and McGuider. No hope, the GPS is not working.
McGuider can find the internal GPS automatically but none of those navigation programs are able to get GPS fix. I've tried Quick GPS and HTC GPS Tool. Nope, doesn't work...
OK, what should I try next? Hard reset? Or just accept the fact and get another TyTn II?
Well, maybe my TyTn II would still work with external GPS but I wouldn't like to a) purchase it and b) carry it with me.