Internet sharing dilemmas... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

This is a 2-part dilemma...
1.) is there a way to use my Wi-fi and data plan as a gateway for internet access with the computers in my home? I want to be able to turn on the Wi-fi, and the phone will become an access point and its internet connection comes from my data plan... I guess this can be done with a T-mobile G1.
2.) the way I do it now is that I hook it up via USB to a computer, and that works pretty well. Problem is, if I disconnect it via software function on the phone or just yank the USB plug out, I have to re-boot my phone before the internet sharing will work again. This gets annoying. Anyone else experience this and/or know if there's a fix?
Or am I just dumb and want everything on a silver platter?

are these computers connect in a network. I am sure it can easily be done by internet connection sharing just have all the computers connect to your pc for a connection.

I thought about doing that--basically an internet share to an internet share. That WOULD work, but I was hoping for something a bit simpler. i am not a hardcore computer user like I was back in the day where I had to have at least 3 computers running 24/7 in order to cope with life. LOL. I was hoping for a setup where I can just walk in the door from a crappy day at work, plug my phone into the charger where it gets its best signal, and just leave it there and the rest will take care of itself. I am close to being able to do that with my Xlink bluetooth cellular gateway. Once I am home, there's no reason why I have to carry my phone around the house, as my hard-wired phones in the house ring through my cellular and I can make calls from them
The other option is to quit being a cheap turd and get a $30/mo internet connection for my computers, which is faster than the EDGE service I get here at home. But I live alone and don't download big stuff anymore or play multiplayer games, etc

I think the concept in question is one that has been batted around here for some time: Can the Kaiser be used as an access point with an internet connection?
As far as anyone's been able to tell, no. The phone's wifi chip(or part of a chip that does wifi) would need to support AP mode (access point mode) where in it receives and routes multiple wifi connections' data between each other and the GPRS hardware. As far as anyone's been able to tell, the wifi capabilities in the phone are limited to single-connection only, so allowing multiple devices to connect (or even 1, unless the desired device can get internet via adhoc or bluetooth) is not possible.

You can use the WiFi connection sharing. What it does is take your EDGE or 3G connection and set your phone up as an "access point". I put that in parenthesis because it creates an "ad-hoc" network that only certain devices can detect and connect to. Ad-Hoc is a device to device network, where the normal is infrastructure mode. Also being the device it is, I'm not sure if it's going to be an intelligent network device, IE.. iTunes music sharing between local connected clients. But you can most certainly share your connection with your laptops or desktops if they have WiFi. I'll see if I can find the cab for you and post it here.
EDIT: Here you go... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4175565&postcount=90

Cool. I will look into that! I pretty much only have one computer running at a time these days, and the EDGE connection isn't all that fast to be sharing it among multiple computers anyway.

why...
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account

jeen said:
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account
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$ 30.00 for your phone data connection + $ 45.00 for your home cable/DSL connection = $75.00 per month, as opposed to just $30.00 for both.
To some people $ 45 dollars a month is a lot of money to save no matter how slow the connection is.

I am no expert but I found this software here a while ago and really liked it. There is an older version that is legally free but the new one is pay, try the trial.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
-Max

jeen said:
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account
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Or you're like me and cant get anything but satellite internet where I live, which is way more expensive. Yet I get 3G just fine =)

WMWifiRouter
I like WMWifiRouter pretty well. It drains my battery like crazy, but when I have my phone plugged in, it's okay. Without being plugged in, my battery loses about 20% over ten minutes. Also, the free version doesn't really come with any admin features. The router is public and there's no way to see who's connected. Other than that, it's great!

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Tilt to wireless router to laptop

Sorry if this is a repeat question. I looked through the archive, but couldn't find this question.
I haven't bought the Tilt yet, but what I want to be able to do is take a Tilt have it be connected to the 3G network and then connect to my wireless router as well. From there I would connect my laptop to the same wireless router but somehow use the 3G internet connection on the laptop. Is this easily doable?
I want to do this since when I get home I want to just keep the phone in one location where I get good reception and then be able to use my laptop where ever I move it in my house without having to move the phone and risk losing connection.
I will be buying a tethering plan.
Thanks for the help.
haven't tried this but i think u should be able to if u have internet sharing enabled.
Does the tilt come with internet sharing?
yes
but let me get this straight, you want to connect it this way
3G->tilt->router->pc
why do that when you can do
3G->tilt->pc
search for ics control, or wmwifirouter
Yes I was thinking the first way. I am not opposed to the second way, but I was curious how much range will a tilt give me as far as broadcasting on wifi?
I often watch tv in my basement and wasn't sure if the tilt wifi would be able to travel as well as my router which has an external antenae. Range was the only reason I introduce the router. It seems wmwifirouter may support what I want to do.
Well considering the phone can follow the laptop anywhere I would say range isn't a question. It's all wireless with batterys

Using the internet on my computer via X1

Hey guys, I am not sure how this works, but technically it should be doable.
I know with the iphone, you can sync it with you computer to make it a modem for the internet, just wonder how do I do it for my X1?
Obviously, I know how to do it with being charged by my network provider, but I don't wanna do it. So basically, I want to find a way that I can sycn my X1 with my laptop, so I get to use the Internet on my laptop via my X1 without paying anything extra. (my mobile contract comes with a unlimited web data plan)
Hope I am making some sense.
Thanks a lot
First things first, You've posted in the wrong forum, this should have been in the general section.
Secondly if you' d done a search you would have found the answer.
But anyway, it's very simple: Plug the phone in via USB open up your programs on the phone, scroll down to the one called 'Internet sharing' press and follow the instructions.
You PC (If it's windows) should ask you if you want to use the new connection, and off you go
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
P the Photographer said:
Thanks, but I know how to do this with paying extra to my network provider, but I know there is a way of doing it without paying extra.
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Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
U sure? coz when I took out the phone, I asked the very same question, and I was told if I use the data on my phone, then it is unlimited access, but if I link it with a computer, they will be able to tell as it will show the data is through a computer not the handset, and they will charge me certain amount per MB. I take it you are in the UK with O2? Coz I am the same.
THJahar said:
Huh? You have stated that you have an unlimited data package with your cellphone provider.
Hence if you use this method they will not charge you as it's using the phone as a modem over it's own 3G network.
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Yeah, I am a little bit confused too... but probably I need some clarifications: you want that your pc shares Internet with your X1 or the opposite?
I mean, which device has the internet connection you want to share, your laptop or your X1?
EDIT: uhm, after your 6:57 post I am more confused than before. I actually do not think they can tell which device is using the data downloaded by your X1... however, this is my opinion.
in my program menu i have an icon called "condivisione internet", i think that in english will appear as "internet sharing". from this menu you can start the internet connection and share it by the usb cable or bluetooth.
i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
one thing....iphone doesn't have an official modem driver, you have to jailbreak it and install a third part application
wizard84 said:
i also install a program called WMWifiRouter, that transform my x1 in a wi-fi router and use the wi-fi connection to share the internet.
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WMWiFirouter rulez !!
I even removed my ADSL contracts and am using the Xperia's HSDPA connection at home and office - amazing speed and flawless connection
Impressive
NO WAY you can do this with an iPhone or T-MO G1
I love this phone a bit more everyday
I want to cut the internet on my computer so I can use the package I get from my X1 on both my laptop and X1 itself. Trying to save some money I am. I see what you guys are saying, but as I said, I was told by O2 if use my X1 as a modem for my laptop, then I will be charged on a MB basis, which is extremely expensive. They specifically told me they can tell when and what sites I have been on using whether my phone or on a computer. Which I think it makes sense in a way, coz otherwise, everyone would be cutting off their Internet at home and start using their mobiles as modems (if they have as nice phone as ours). Unless all these from O2 is a bluff.
So did my friend do some dodgy thing to make his iphone Internet works on his computer then?
Sorry guy if I am confusing the matter as I am confused myself, any further help greatly appreciated. And do forgiver my English!
PS - Would this work with my Mac? I don't have a PC, I could buy the MissSync, but not sure how good it will work and quite expensive.
Maybe your "unlimited data plan" on your phone is about wap traffic? Than O2 is right and you are gonna pay a lot for the regular shared net connection. Check this with them.
Just my opinion!
Well I think the simplest way to sort this is do a test.
Just use the shared internet connection facility for a couple of days then stop.
If your next bill comes with a charge attached then they are right, if not they are talking BS and you can carry on.
p.s. I'd like to know if this is true as well as i'm with O2
Better for a couple of minutes! Using a internet connection w/out a data plan will dry his pocket out as a day in Sahara. Don't try this at home!
WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
unlimited data plan is not real unlimited, its just enough to last a month with on your phone.
btw phone companies are bluffing because they also say they can see if you are calling via skype instead of the normal cellular radio....
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WMWifirouter is definitely worth a try.
With T-mobile I've got unlimited data on the phone, but it does not permit tethering (using the connection for a laptop or other computer), but with WMWifirouter, it routes it through a program on the phone, so it can be shared.
Brilliant bit of software, worth paying for, even if just for emergencies (e.g. at a friend's house, they have no internet but have laptop, and you want to show them a stupid youtube video... it's serious stuff).
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If you use tmobile in the UK, I would imagine your unlimited data would be similar to mine since they are both in the UK.
I guess I will give the WMWifirouter a good and see what will happen if I get on the Internet for a few mintues and maybe increase my time bit by bit...
Thanks for all the replies and sure will keep you guys updated with the results, if my X1 doesn't sell on ebay. Nothing wrong with that, just being a Mac computer person and having a WiMo is a little... weird... but don't jump on me, I love the X1 and it's great!!!!
Hi there,
Connect your laptop to the X1 with a USB cable. Start the computer.
Tap
Start > Programs > Tools > Internet Sharing.
Select USB & Contract Internet then Tap connect at the bottom of the screen.
Open your browser and it should be working. You need a very good mobile signal to get any speed out of it.
Hope this helps.
Is there any way to use my PC internet connection on my X1i with Bluetooth?
i'm sure there is
all the best
my home broadband was down for a week a few days ago. used my x1 using the internet connection sharing app. for it to work i had to remove the ethernet cable from the pc. but once i did it was fine.
and voda didnt charge me anything as i have the unlimited internet included.
problem was i dont like in a 3g area so it was back to 8kb/s speeds. pain, but a lot better than nothing!
---ronin. in the internet sharing application there is an option to connect via bluetooth. try that.
thanks James but i've already tried that but i couldn't manage it
actually when i select Bluetooth pan then i should select a network but there is no network connection to select
can any body help me find a solution?
all the best
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Internet Sharing via wifi

Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
Telstra Internet
I have now set the internet connection back to telstra but it doesn't want to load the telstra home page anymore. That is why I gave up last time. I wish I could use wifi when I have it and browse the free sites when I don't Telstra is very annoying.
Information
Hello, soon im gonna write a small guide as to how to use your phone incondunction with a router to allow all devices connected to the router to connect via the mobile phones internet connection. I understand that this is not what your askings as from my experence you will not be able to what your are asking. But if you have a unlimited data allowence then this would be a good option.
you need a router
you need wireless on your laptop (dongle/built in)
and some minor knowledge on setting up networks manually
keep your eyes out for the thread.
regards Vic
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Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
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try to use wmwifirouter - it can use phones wireless and BT/USB connection to pc it will be a router for pc
Unsure
Thanks for your ideas although I might not have made myself clear.
The laptop does not have wireless. And I do not want to use the data connection on my phone as that will cost a fortune.
I wanted to get my phone to connect to the uniwireless and then allow my laptop to connect to the uni wireless for free internet via the phone.
I think I might just give up and buy a usb adaptor for the laptop.
Cheers
wmwifirouter does this !
Thanks
Oh ok, well I would have a look but i don't want to pay for it so im not going to try, especially as every time i have touched my network setup my free browsing stops working.
Thanks

GUIDE! your diamond or other wm6.1 device as the main internet access via your router

Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
mgs333 said:
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Thank you good luck with the move
kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
chribruu said:
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
Asphyx said:
Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!
Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.
I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653
I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?

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