Let's talk about R4A: If and when? - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there, I haven't been able to check out XDA too often in the past few weeks, so I'm not certain if I missed something. What do you guys know about a (possible) R4A? There was that game, Xtrakt, and other stuff, that should've been included with R3A - well, it wasn't. So what are they gonna do with this stuff? I mean, of course, we have it. But officially it has never been realesed. Will there be an R4A withz these goodies? If so, when do you think will it be available?

Its a grey, grey area - According to SE there are no major problems basically that need fixing so, no need for R4A. Then again SE isnt a reliable source :S
Also why would they give us new stuff when they cant even be bothered to update their website, on the x1 site CNN panel is still listed as "coming soon".

Above statements are true as well as Xtrakt game was officially released on SE's Korean website as a "fun & download".
I see no R4A update in the future.
SE customer service has said so and the always reliable Pavel has also said so.
Welcome to Sony Ericsson, Kings of Extortion. You want new things, buy an X2.........no thanks.

SE should sell their x2 strictly to the korean market for the mere fact that they released spb mobile shell 3 and xtrakt officially on the korean market and left us out on in all other regions, that is simply saying we dont deserve the good stuff and yet have to rely on leak sources for those goods, make matters worse they restricted everyone from other regions from downloading anything from the korean site, soooooo....SE is clearly telling us outside of korea to kiss their arse, well, i have done it but i wont be doing it again

Firefall! said:
Hi there, I haven't been able to check out XDA too often in the past few weeks, so I'm not certain if I missed something. What do you guys know about a (possible) R4A? There was that game, Xtrakt, and other stuff, that should've been included with R3A - well, it wasn't. So what are they gonna do with this stuff? I mean, of course, we have it. But officially it has never been realesed. Will there be an R4A withz these goodies? If so, when do you think will it be available?
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It's simple:
-xTrakt -> gone to X2 (except for Korea who has it officialy for X1)
-panel manager -> optimised and gone to X2
-camera with geotag -> optimised and gone to X2
-WM 6.5 -> only for X2
So there is just one question: when will people start to understand that there is no more support from SE for Xperia X1?

It was only a rumour about the R3a update with all the extras. When itje posted it we thought it may be on the way but turned out to be a simple bug fix. (it was itje that posted it ?)
The R3a update we all wanted was only really features from the X2 and as far as SE are concerned no bugs no update.
would really appreciate an r4 update tho........

Mopral said:
It's simple:
-xTrakt -> gone to X2 (except for Korea who has it officialy for X1)
-panel manager -> optimised and gone to X2
-camera with geotag -> optimised and gone to X2
-WM 6.5 -> only for X2
So there is just one question: when will people start to understand that there is no more support from SE for Xperia X1?
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Yeah, but you can get those on the X1, so SE can GTFO.

orelsi said:
so SE can GTFO.
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Totally agrre with this one!

augie7107 said:
Above statements are true as well as Xtrakt game was officially released on SE's Korean website as a "fun & download".
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Oh. Didn't know that... So it's in Korean?

Firefall! said:
Oh. Didn't know that... So it's in Korean?
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I'd assume so.

Why do I have it in English then?

orelsi said:
Why do I have it in English then?
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Those are leaked versions arent they?
why would they release it in english in korea officially >.<

comeradealexi said:
Those are leaked versions arent they?
why would they release it in english in korea officially >.<
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I guess lol.

Firefall! said:
Oh. Didn't know that... So it's in Korean?
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See for yourself.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/kr/xperia/
Too bad SE deems their Korean market more important than anywhere else.

augie7107 said:
See for yourself.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/kr/xperia/
Too bad SE deems their Korean market more important than anywhere else.
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omg all that flash movie and everything! Sony must hate us because that website for one actually has panels actually listed - two actually works and 3 is awesome!!!!
In comparison to the x1 UK sight the korea one is amazing! why is sony being like this and they actually have the roms listed! Se still says the x1's last update was in feburary....
why have we been left out in the cold...
edit: thinking about it now - maybe it just sold really well in korean....
edit: that is weird - if you go to sony home page then select the language as korea it only takes you to the x1 page... is this like the first sony phone in korea?

i will answer that for ya
Once you are outside Korea, SE doesn't give a **** about you and your x1
why do you think they never gave us xtrakt?
why do you think they never gave us SPB mobile shell panel 3?
why do you think their x1 site is the only one different?
There is nothing special about us who spent nearly $700 USD on a device, unless you are in Korea

spikegotti said:
i will answer that for ya
Once you are outside Korea, SE doesn't give a **** about you and your x1
why do you think they never gave us xtrakt?
why do you think they never gave us SPB mobile shell panel 3?
why do you think their x1 site is the only one different?
There is nothing special about us who spent nearly $700 USD on a device, unless you are in Korea
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what a rip off - why dont they just give us the middle finger while they are at it

lol i think they have already did, but their middle finger is soo small u can hardly see it
damn apple, just wont hurry up and add a keyboard and wvga resolution

spikegotti said:
lol i think they have already did, but their middle finger is soo small u can hardly see it
damn apple, just wont hurry up and add a keyboard and wvga resolution
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Unfortunately, for the rest of the smartphone market, they probably have something like that cooking...

hmmmm...we don't really need r4a, as soon as we have a leak of the x2 or if it's released, we should be able to create an all singing all dancing x2 rom with manila2.5 and titanium. The x2 keyboard doesnt look much better or the keys or anything, the only improvements are the camera and gsensor!

Related

Barcelona - MWC - S-E XPERIA X1 - OpMobile 9.5 etc - READ THIS!

Guys and gals, do read my blog if you want to know the latest news from Barcelona - I've been posting a LOT of articles & shots on both Sony's XPERIA X1, Opera Mobile 9.5, the competition (Nokia, BB etc.), the latest e-paper readers, new stuff etc. I can't cross-post them in here or even follow the related thread because my connection is very-very restricted and expensive - sorry for you having to visit another webpage.
That is, don't forget to check out and regularly visit http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - even without my updating this thread. (Again, sorry, I can't cross-post my stuff and can't even regularly update my announcements.)
(I'll unstick this thread when MWC is over and, after having returned to home, I can resume my regular posting. That is, it's not a permanent "plug" of my blog )
Menneisyys said:
Guys and gals, do read my blog if you want to know the latest news from Barcelona - I've been posting a LOT of articles & shots on both Sony's XPERIA X1, Opera Mobile 9.5, the competition (Nokia, BB etc.), the latest e-paper readers, new stuff etc. I can't cross-post them in here or even follow the related thread because my connection is very-very restricted and expensive - sorry for you having to visit another webpage.
That is, don't forget to check out and regularly visit http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - even without my updating this thread. (Again, sorry, I can't cross-post my stuff and can't even regularly update my announcements.)
(I'll unstick this thread when MWC is over and, after having returned to home, I can resume my regular posting. That is, it's not a permanent "plug" of my blog )
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Thanks for the news, this is good stuff. I quite fancied the Sony err xperia 1 but then noticed in www.htc.com press release section (materials relating) mentions about them taking on the xperia. Could this mean hold backs on the possible identifying device..Who knows, but I still quite fancy it. And suppose if HTC do release the drivers at the end of March like metioned at www.htcclassaction.org then I would buy another HTC device although I would be more cautious and probably wait for a few people from here to get one first.
Thanks again for your blog!! Good reading..
Hope to hear from you again..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
good blog
but reading....it seems S E won't even say if the video driver is going to be fixed...that is just making htc look even worse if you ask me. I think they are making the phone right? Bad sign, they are dodging things, and the phone hasn't even been released.....
Why would SE make the same mistake as HTC?
~~Tito~~ said:
Why would SE make the same mistake as HTC?
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Cause SE does not produces the Hardware. The internal PCB and all on-board is HTC OEM or ODm production.
HTC "might" again provide a chipset build without driver support. That is why.
Advice: Avoid Xperia as long S E does not confirm FULL specs of the Qualcomm CPU being used.
Any notice of spb mobile shell?
cicciocant said:
Any notice of spb mobile shell?
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yup, posted some sentences on Monday on it. Will only later compare it to the alternatives.
diigibio said:
Thanks again for your blog!! Good reading..
Hope to hear from you again..
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Thanks; I've just posted a LOT of BT- and digital TV-related info:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2486&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
ceevee369 said:
Cause SE does not produces the Hardware. The internal PCB and all on-board is HTC OEM or ODm production.
HTC "might" again provide a chipset build without driver support. That is why.
Advice: Avoid Xperia as long S E does not confirm FULL specs of the Qualcomm CPU being used.
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While I can't discosure the name of the manufacturer (they have asked me not to do so after our discussion), there is a far-east ODM that is working on the 3D Qualcomm drivers for their own Qualcomm-based devices. They stated they'd be ready in 2-3 months. They stated while they indeed have to do some manual coding, Qualcomm does (already) support 3D in the hardware.
You all know what this means - yes, we will hopefully be able to rip all those drivers after the (pretty close) release of the devices.
That definitely looks like something to look forward to. Please keep us informed, if you can.
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That definitely looks like something to look forward to. Please keep us informed, if you can.
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Sure I will. Hope we can do some kind of a co-operation between the company in question and our Qualcomm coders / hackers with mutual benefits.
(I'm already discussing this stuff privately with other mods. Details aren't public as yet.)
Just posted a brand new link & some great pics of the XPERIA X1 to http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...y_ericsson_xperia_x1_new&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Thanks Werner,
However, I really dont like that Qualcomm ... I hope SE managed to put hardware graphics acceleration drivers ... otherwise ... toast.
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Just posted a brand new link & some great pics of the XPERIA X1 to http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...y_ericsson_xperia_x1_new&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
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gogol said:
Thanks Werner,
However, I really dont like that Qualcomm ... I hope SE managed to put hardware graphics acceleration drivers ... otherwise ... toast.
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The S-E rep I've in person talked to didn't want to comment on whether it will surely have 3D hardware acceleration or not - unlike what the flyier states (in there, they speak of 3D hardware acceleration).
However, a completely independent manufacturer is (also?) working on the drivers. I'll try to do some kind of a co-operation, if at all possible, between them and the XDA-Devs coders.
Yes, I read that as well (about independent manufacturer). I am really appreciate your effort.
After reading your latest blog entry regarding this Xperia and found about:
- It is still based on Qualcomm MSM7xxx
- It is still 128 MB RAM
- It is still 256 MB Flash
I am less excited ...
I meant compared to Kaiser, there are not much upgrade.
- More resolution (800x480), yes this nice, but 3"? Not really big boost compared to current QVGA. For sure, it will look nicer, but I would rather to have 640x480 ... and 3.5" screen!
- More CPU power, I think 400 vs 528 will not add a lot (remember, the RAM is still 128MB) ... 624 would be nice (and add more RAM )
- FM Radio? Hmm, I dont need this for sure ...
- Xperia Panel? Could be nice, but I will not upgrade just because of this
- Windows 6.1? Dutty has that already ...
The rest are the same (GPSOne, Camera, etc.).
Well, maybe it is just me, but I found Xperia X1 does not offer much upgrade to current Kaiser.
Menneisyys said:
The S-E rep I've in person talked to didn't want to comment on whether it will surely have 3D hardware acceleration or not - unlike what the flyier states (in there, they speak of 3D hardware acceleration).
However, a completely independent manufacturer is (also?) working on the drivers. I'll try to do some kind of a co-operation, if at all possible, between them and the XDA-Devs coders.
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hey Menneisyys, i think your magazine carefully forgot the bit about the drivers in their Tilt review
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/node/1302
No news on the Meizu M8 in Barcelona? Any idea if they still gonna show it on Cebit?
I would have more trust on that one as that "unknown" Xperia ODM manufacture would not be involved in the driver set-up
draxredd said:
hey Menneisyys, i think your magazine carefully forgot the bit about the drivers in their Tilt review
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/node/1302
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Yup, that's their old article. In the last one (I'm their tech editor), which will be published in the next issue, I've inserted two sentences mentioning the driver issue and pointing to this very forum. Hope it gets thru as it was 2 days before going to print that I've done this and the layout was already pretty much finalized.
ceevee369 said:
No news on the Meizu M8 in Barcelona?
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Haven't checked it myself as it's "just" a WinCE-based phone, not a WinMo one. Dunno if Engadget and the other sites covered it.
Albeit, I'm certainly interested in the S5L8900 chipset it has (the same as in the iPhone and is prolly much better than the old S3C244x in, say, the TyTN) (see http://www.gearlog.com/2007/07/iphone_processor_whats_with_th.php ). While I don't think it can beat the brand new S3C6400 / S3C6410, which will only be used later by devices from Samsung and E-ten (the latter was confirmed by a Samsung rep at MWC), it's certainly much better than the S3C244x and has, for example, 3D hardware acceleration support.
gogol said:
The rest are the same (GPSOne, Camera, etc.).
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So the Xperia X1 will have stand-alone GPS and not just aGPS?

Help : 8/16 GB Diamond .. WM7??

1.Does diamond support Windows mobile 7 ?
2.Do U Think htc will release 8/16 GB Diamond?
what a random question. thres no evicence for either, but i doubt the storage upgrade. theyve done that with the advantage a year on, and everyone thinks its a waste of money.
but wm7, if its not officail, id guess the cooks will port it
Rory
I wouldn't rule out the storage upgrade. If HTC want the Touch Diamond to compete with the iPhone, they will have to do storage upgrades. Also, because I'm buying it, you know a better version is going to be released - it's my bad luck. (My Touch is a good example).
This may be a silly question but has anyone actually opened up their Diamond to see if it is possible to increase the Storage Memory? eg could it be possible to add/swap out the 4GB for more?
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Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
billybobjones said:
im surprised...only one S at the end of Hastas? What does that even mean =\?
I demand more SSSS's!
Also upgrade your rom =(
Also...Ive been wondering the WM7 thing too...who knows =\?
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Ehehehehehe
The "S" are proportional to how happy I am...less "S" means "less happy"
I also have upgraded my ROM, only the signature isn't actualized
Regarding WM7...only with the help of a crystal ball...
HastaSSSS
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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lol so true, this forum need some moderators badly.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
billybobjones said:
i know...i need a crystal ball...this magic 8 ball isnt working =(
What does "Hastas" mean =P?
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Hasta = Bye
Hastas = "Byes"
Yzord said:
Well, bring out some usefull stuff then instead of crying about these kind of topics.
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If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
There is evidence for WM7, just knowing M$, whatever we know now will be completely different from what is released, and it'll be released two years late...
I suspect HTC will release newer versions with more storage, but there is no evidence for that ATM.
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
s1rl4ncel0t said:
If you make a search on this forum (not only in Diamond section), you would see, that I've done a big share of contributions, namely on the Trinity ...
So, next time, instead of bragging, make a search first, and don't feed these non-sense threads...
HastaSSSS
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I am sorry? You are crying about these topics while you feed these topics by yourself? Just point the finger to yourself next time.
Diamond Hardware Modding
deaddavey1 said:
isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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finally a decent response to my question. Now who has taken a look under the hood of their Diamond to see for eaxmple where on the board the 4GB memory chip is and how accessible it is. Is there any space under the cover to connect up another memory card...
The Touch Pro is too big and I don't need a keyboard. The only thing stopping me from getting a Diamond right now is the 4GB memory...
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isnt the touch pro basically the diamond with upgrades and sd slot for up to 64gb (so far)?
if any wm device is upgradeable, the diamond is a sure fire even if not officially supported
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SDHC only supports up to 32gb... they'll come out with a new standard for 64gb chips I bet.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Another sh*t thread...
This forum is becoming full of these kind of crap
HastaS
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its all noobs wanting to learn...bless them

What the F**k is SE doing?

Ok i just had an interesting talk with an SE service guy on the official german X1 support hotline. I was complaining about why my selfrecorded videos are lagging like hell when i set "videoframerate: high" in options. So the hotline guy tested it on his x1 aswell and then said that he has the problem too and its normal. He said there is nothing we can do about it. I mean i paid so much for this phone and then this **** happens...
Is this maybe a issue of the german R3A Rom? Can maybe someone who has an american or uk R3A Rom tell me if he has the same problem?
Sorry for my bad english but im really upset about this
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Ok i just had an interesting talk with an SE service guy on the official german X1 support hotline. I was complaining about why my selfrecorded videos are lagging like hell when i set "videoframerate: high" in options. So the hotline guy tested it on his x1 aswell and then said that he has the problem too and its normal. He said there is nothing we can do about it. I mean i paid so much for this phone and then this **** happens...
Is this maybe a issue of the german R3A Rom? Can maybe someone who has an american or uk R3A Rom tell me if he has the same problem?
Sorry for my bad english but im really upset about this
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silver x1a here.. and yes... same problem... very upsetting indeed... it's normal
I have NAM R2A and videos I record don't even play back. Just a black screen and a stuttering sound. It's ridiculous.
Can you upload the video so i can see how it runs on mine?
its pretty annoying though isnt it - i mean when u spend £500 on a phone you expect it to work and have good support yet you get this
I just spoke with a friend who has the XPERIA X1 Generic Switzerland R3AA007. And he said he has no video problems. Can i flash the swiss rom to my german x1 or will there be any issues with my operator? like no connectivity or something like that.
if you flash the generic one there will be a connection setup program which will aquire all of the settings i think
do i have to do hardspl first or will it work with stockspl because its a official rom?
Generic R3A UK ROM here. No problems with playback.
My guess is that people who have problems with video have messed up their video drivers. I have done it in the past and the only thing that worked was a hard reset.
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do i have to do hardspl first or will it work with stockspl because its a official rom?
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yea i believe so
I have the same problem. Just know that when you copy the file to your computer and play it with for excample VLC player, it doesn't play laggy. And if you play the videos with Pocket Coreplayer on your Xperia, it is 'less' laggy.
Ok i just flashed the XPERIA X1 Generic Switzerland R3AA007 and it works!!!! i always thought its because the german r3a is ****ed up and now im sure it is.
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Ok i just flashed the XPERIA X1 Generic Switzerland R3AA007 and it works!!!! i always thought its because the german r3a is ****ed up and now im sure it is.
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Maybe you have to change this thread name because this problem is very important, (i have this too ) do you know what roms is working or what is not?
ok just forget what i said in my last post because its still laggy -.- the first videos i made wasnt but now they are. i really have no idea what the hell this is. i guess ill have to give up...sony ericsson won...
and i dont know how to change the thread name maybe a mod can do this please? ^^
I have the same issue like you and i give it up a long time ago. i still wondering why SE didnt put theire own good camera's in it like K800 or the c905. but anyways the camera of x1 just s**ks
Haxxler said:
ok just forget what i said in my last post because its still laggy -.- the first videos i made wasnt but now they are. i really have no idea what the hell this is. i guess ill have to give up...sony ericsson won...
and i dont know how to change the thread name maybe a mod can do this please? ^^
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have tried all the tweaks you can do to increase the performance of your x1 to get it to play videos better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328
try the tweaks here and see if they work
no problem here man... not laggy at all... but I hate the quality u.u even in high
generic UK R3A with original camera drivers .. no problem with playback
overall camera quality is another topic
comeradealexi said:
have tried all the tweaks you can do to increase the performance of your x1 to get it to play videos better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328
try the tweaks here and see if they work
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tried them but still laggy

the hd has compass hardaware? There are people that say yes

hi
I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
bad link... you cant link it with dots: )
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
daguerrotipo said:
hi
I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=833
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Your link does not work
Fallen Spartan said:
Your link does not work
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tuxhero said:
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
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"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
Moony1987 said:
"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ahh righto
I think we do have.
Thats the shame 'bout HTC (besides da poor quality of hard- and software): they setup ONE hardware and make 5 PDAs with slighty changed details. they were never interested in making good hardware.. everytime they took something away the previous model had... now, they do have android and are able to clone nearly the same device just with another OS.
in commercial aspects, this makes sense.... but as consumer I can only think of it as a pain in the neck. my old universal has a high res display, a 3,5mm audioconnector, a well made keyboard and a fast cpu... years ago... a shame it is the size of a brick .
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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I disagree your argumentation:
Developers here wrote drivers to implement TMC and RDS into the features of the Blackstone. HTC hasn´t done it yet.
HTC seems to leave possible feature unused. Maybe to save time for their developers.
The old topic of a missing video driver is another example for that.
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If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
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50$ from me for unlocking the feature + another 100$ if anyone makes it work with Google Maps + another 100$ if someone makes an augmented reality app like Wikitude (Android).
Only if it's done before the release of the HTC Leo
It's a AK8976A chip
well i would chip in $50 as well .. if it worked !!
KlausFindus said:
It's a AK8976A chip
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is the same that dream phone?
Byes
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
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haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
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Sometimes happen... It's true that more with anothers brands (apple), I can remember Ipod touch, iphone, wifi in the macs....
may be this time no but is possible.
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I've read the same thread from Tuxhero and I have to see it before I believe it. The only thing we've got is a blanket statement that he has read it somewhere. Someone else created slight confusion on this site before with similar statements.
Not saying that he's lying (in fact, I hope he's right), a source would help. Until then, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Im guessin they didnt include alot of features cause when the phone was released whoever ws going to buy it would buy it anyway, and when competitors (Iphone3gs) release phones with features like the compass thing etc , htc can easily release newer phones with the same features ... sort of like having it ready on earlier models so when they need to release it they can quickly!
My guess

Liquor? I hardly knew her!!!

Ha. Gotcha.
I don't know...I'm at odds here...
With taxes coming in (I know I'm getting a nice refund)...I am torn between getting a touch pro 2 (Tilt 2, whatever)...and a Leo...
I have a touch hd at this time, and the one thing that really gets me is the lack of TV out, which the TP2 has. A small, insignificant thing to some, but with 2 children and a van, the old Fuze I used to have really came in handy.
But then I look at the Leo, with its huge screen, 1ghz Snapdragon, capability to be upgraded to wm7---but also, no tv out...
Or should I just wait a little longer to see what comes up???
Any ideas???
Rumning Poll
Touch Pro 2- 0
Leo- 1
Ican'tmakeupmymindeither (aka Orb3000 poll)-1
hd3/tp3- Stop confusing me!!!!!-2
there has been some news about HD3, I don't know whether its for real or not. It would be a grand device looking at its specifications.
telegraph0000 said:
I don't know...I'm at odds here...
With taxes coming in (I know I'm getting a nice refund)...I am torn between getting a touch pro 2 (Tilt 2, whatever)...and a Leo...
I have a touch hd at this time, and the one thing that really gets me is the lack of TV out, which the TP2 has. A small, insignificant thing to some, but with 2 children and a van, the old Fuze I used to have really came in handy.
But then I look at the Leo, with its huge screen, 1ghz Snapdragon, capability to be upgraded to wm7---but also, no tv out...
Or should I just wait a little longer to see what comes up???
Any ideas???
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If hardware keyboard is must for you go for Rhodium!
There won´t be better choice till 2011
If not a hardware keyboard fan but you can wait and $ is not a prob, then go for HD3
If can´t wait go for Leo
Dam the HD3 sounds like one sexy beast of a phone...any hope of that being for AT&T as well, i was rather disappointed that the HD2 never made it
Didn't even know that there was an HD3 in the horizon...gotta google...
edit...okay, googled it up...even though they are just rumors...no...way...this would be the ultimate phone...that is, at least until a 2ghz model comes out...
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Didn't even know that there was an HD3 in the horizon...gotta google...
edit...okay, googled it up...even though they are just rumors...no...way...this would be the ultimate phone...that is, at least until a 2ghz model comes out...
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Dang... But you'd have to wait until November...
If it's even for real...
True that. Hmm. I'd definitely have to say the Leo, though.
theres rumors on a TP3 as well
(you do know that none of you are helping...) 'cept for the Texan with the rebel hair...
Oh that's nice. My cries for help get only 126 views, yet a thread with the title "Sexy Lady" has over 200 already!!!! *time to change strategy*...renames thread...*
How DARE you fool me with that title change!
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How DARE you fool me with that title change!
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Huh--wha? I do not know you sir (new avatar)...and why the heck did you click? perv. and next time you take a self pic. POUT LIKE THE PROFESSIONALS!!!
Ha. Psssh, I clicked because I love... Um, gymnastics(?) not big breasted women... Yeah, that's why.
The Vogue's camera only allows me to pout so much. Any more, and the picture comes out black.
no one else would like to put their two cents?
telegraph0000 said:
no one else would like to put their two cents?
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(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)
wovens said:
(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)
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lawlz. PWNED.
wovens said:
(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)
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Muy inteligente...pero que malvada....
telegraph0000 said:
Muy inteligente...pero que malvada....
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Mui malvada indeed! Now, I think you should follow Steve Jobs and buy an ipudding or an HTC Magnun! I knew I've seen the idea before! Small enough for delicate ears!
Lol
Great one!
I guess it depends on what you want in a phone. From the research I did in phones, the TP2 is a great phone. The others are great but are expensive if you buy them outright. You might consider providing more details other than the phones you're trying to choose from. Like what you want in a phone.

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