http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4323885&postcount=8
Ok the mytouch has a rom that increases ram to 108 can someone make this happen on the dream
jokersax11 said:
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Ok the mytouch has a rom that increases ram to 108 can someone make this happen on the dream
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dude that's pretty interesting. but technically yes it has happened: linux swap...
Swap is not ram its virtual ram. Very different. This is actual ram. Its not much but it helps
didnt read the link but i know you cant add more ram without opening the phone , pc , video game laptop or whatever.
ram is a hardware. now you can free up some that was in use by other programs but you cant add more then what the phone has built in
xile6 said:
didnt read the link but i know you cant add more ram without opening the phone , pc , video game laptop or whatever.
ram is a hardware. now you can free up some that was in use by other programs but you cant add more then what the phone has built in
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YOU SHOULD read it!
Seriously, read the link before speaking. It doesn't talk about physically increase the ram, it's about reallocating what ram is available.
Although, the mytouch has considerably more RAM than the Dream, if they only managed that much of an increase on the mytouch, the Dreams increase would be pretty negligible and not worth any potential issues IMO
Jonno12345 said:
Seriously, read the link before speaking. It doesn't talk about physically increase the ram, it's about reallocating what ram is available.
Although, the mytouch has considerably more RAM than the Dream, if they only managed that much of an increase on the mytouch, the Dreams increase would be pretty negligible and not worth any potential issues IMO
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mytouch has the same amount of ram but they did something to free it up to make 108mb free magic has waaaay more ram though
Jonno12345 said:
Seriously, read the link before speaking. It doesn't talk about physically increase the ram, it's about reallocating what ram is available.
Although, the mytouch has considerably more RAM than the Dream, if they only managed that much of an increase on the mytouch, the Dreams increase would be pretty negligible and not worth any potential issues IMO
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Does the MT3G have more ram? I know some Sapphires/Magics have more ram, but I thought the US model didn't. (32B)
testing567 said:
Does the MT3G have more ram? I know some Sapphires/Magics have more ram, but I thought the US model didn't. (32B)
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ok for those who dont read. this is a kernel edit to reallocate about 10-12 mb or more ram for the dream. this is not much but think of it this way. 10% more ram!
jokersax11 said:
ok for those who dont read. this is a kernel edit to reallocate about 10-12 mb or more ram for the dream. this is not much but think of it this way. 10% more ram!
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I don't think it's already coded&tried out for Dream's hardware...
Maybe someone with time and knowledge could give it a try?
It's already included in the kernel of allas Rogers for Magics.. But only for the Sapphire.
I think you need to edit the board-trout.c or sth..
yea thats actually where i got the link however i wouldnt mind seeing if this could make it over to the dream.
But I do stand right in the fact that u can't add what isn't there right? And ill get around to reading it when I'm home
if you have 96 now and you get 108 does this not equal more. its already been done on the mt3g. i was simply asking a port to dream. personally i could use an extra 10-12 mb of ram. that could be a big improvement on both aosp and hero roms(and soon to be cliq).
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if you have 96 now and you get 108 does this not equal more. its already been done on the mt3g. i was simply asking a port to dream. personally i could use an extra 10-12 mb of ram. that could be a big improvement on both aosp and hero roms(and soon to be cliq).
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yep were gonna need this.....epecially those of us that are stuck with our g1s till next year
Sounds like huanyu already tested this on a G1 with success.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4329289#post4329289
jokersax11 said:
ok for those who dont read. this is a kernel edit to reallocate about 10-12 mb or more ram for the dream. this is not much but think of it this way. 10% more ram!
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This is quote an ironic statement given that the kernel in question is for 32A Magic's.
hakeem9 said:
This is quote an ironic statement given that the kernel in question is for 32A Magic's.
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Now please say this understandable.
Moved to Q&A since the developmental aspect is not in this thread.
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as it says in the title is there anyway to increase the ram on a g1 also, known as, htc dream. i am using the g1 with a lower amount of ram
please help
every g1 hve same amt of ram..please come again and have a good night you cant increase it.
Ace42 said:
every g1 hve same amt of ram..please come again and have a good night you cant increase it.
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well actually there is a 10mb ram hack that will increase the available free ram while sacrificing 3d graphics
brian_v3ntura said:
well actually there is a 10mb ram hack that will increase the available free ram while sacrificing 3d graphics
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but hten i wouldnt beable to use gameboid or snesoid
how would i do that hack
how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
turtlesmank4 said:
how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
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all you need to do is find a rom that uses the hack which is sese hero or kingxklick rom maybe hero_over too.
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how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
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You can do it with any ROM. The 10mb ram hack is built in to the kernel, which is inside boot.img, so all you need to do is find a boot.img with the 10mb kernel and flash it over your existing ROM.
Personally I don't buy it, but if you want to try it then go for it.
As other have said, all HTC Dreams (some branded as G1's) have the same amount of RAM. The Hero has 96mb more ram than the Dream.
Hello, both quadrant and setcpu show me 334Mb total RAM and 85mb free... quadrant also shows me 143Mb inactive RAM
wth?
This will be updated in 2.2FROYO where all 512MB RAM will be available for use.
AdamDowning said:
This will be updated in 2.2FROYO where all 512MB RAM will be available for use.
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Hopefully you are right, any source where i can see the official statement about this issue?
From another thread:
Sigh. No. No ROM ever will. This is because the radio firmware reserves a lump of RAM all to itself so that you can... you know... make and receive calls.
Can you imagine how annoyed you would be if you missed calls or SMSes just because you'd used up all the available memory?
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Some people commented:
that sounds interesting! you got a source for that? (datasheet, firmware changelog, article w/ credible source, etc.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738928&page=47
Check that topic.
Interesting
On Verizon, Samsung Galaxy S appers to have only 384 mb of RAM... Samsung is lying to us!!!
Check engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/full-samsung-continuum-specs-leak-out-in-verizon-comparison-char/
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On Verizon, Samsung Galaxy S appers to have only 384 mb of RAM... Samsung is lying to us!!!
Check engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/02/full-samsung-continuum-specs-leak-out-in-verizon-comparison-char/
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As said in more threads sgs has 512 mb but you loose ram for kernel, shared memory and phone memory. At the end you have about 300 MB of available memory on stock kernel. So samsung doesn't lies.
Ciao Angelo
Omg is this thread for real? Someone delete it ffs.
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1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied
bilboa1 said:
1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied
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Link to where it is said as a 384MB device, coz currently we only have 350+ max usable but its unstable but the device functions wll at 340MB usable.
I wonder how the guys with the N1 reacted since they only see 192MB of their 512MB ram
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1: thread is from august
2: samsung now markets the sgs as 384megs of ram, but used to market it as 512megs.. so yes, yes it's arguable but in the end by making this change they agree they lied
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Where do they market as less than 512? And I hope that you are not using the Verizon picture as a basis to your reasoning.
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Oh darn, can i get a refund?
I demand my 512MB, i bought it when they were advertizing with it =/
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I wonder how the guys with the N1 reacted since they only see 192MB of their 512MB ram
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N1 only saw ~200MB of RAM because a bug in Linux kernel. With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
And yes, N1 owners complained about this. The difference is that there was a lot less fanboys defending Google or HTC about this matter.
Even the Tab has 444MB
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p1000_galaxy_tab-review-527p3.php
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youtube.com/watch?v=EMLJOa2KFK0&feature=player_embedded
at the 37th second you'll see 444MB total while they advertize with "Internal 16/32 GB storage, 512 MB RAM"
and such a tab is even more expensive then a sgs.. =/
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N1 only saw ~200MB of RAM because a bug in Linux kernel. With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
And yes, N1 owners complained about this. The difference is that there was a lot less fanboys defending Google or HTC about this matter.
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I'm 99% sure that's wrong. It wasn't a bug, it just didn't support larger amounts which was because of the way ARM was designed apparently. Linux was designed that way, and needed to be updated.
This is a totally different situation, and not sure why billboa is claiming that samsung now markets the SGS as 384mb of ram either. I have seen NO evidence of that, and if that's true, please show proof the SGS is being marketed as 384mb.
I agree that we do need more spare RAM to be available (especially in the froyo leaks, which may be betas anyway) and the currently-reserved RAM to be allocated dynamically when needed, so there is more ram available at other times. RAM allocation is cheap afterall.
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I'm 99% sure that's wrong. It wasn't a bug, it just didn't support larger amounts which was because of the way ARM was designed apparently. Linux was designed that way, and needed to be updated.
This is a totally different situation, and not sure why billboa is claiming that samsung now markets the SGS as 384mb of ram either. I have seen NO evidence of that, and if that's true, please show proof the SGS is being marketed as 384mb.
I agree that we do need more spare RAM to be available (especially in the froyo leaks, which may be betas anyway) and the currently-reserved RAM to be allocated dynamically when needed, so there is more ram available at other times. RAM allocation is cheap afterall.
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Check the link from the specs hosted by engadget.
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Check the link from the specs hosted by engadget.
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You mean the link in this thread? Because those point to custom models. Just because one Xbox includes a HDD for instance, doesn't mean all models do. I'm still having serious trouble finding any evidence that Samsung are advertising the international unit as 384MB of RAM..
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With the bug corrected you see 512MB of TOTAL RAM.
Is this based on theory or actual experience, because on the N1 that Im holding right now shows only x/192MB and its 2.2.1
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Is this based on theory or actual experience, because on the N1 that Im holding right now shows only x/192MB and its 2.2.1
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Well, maybe it's not a N1 you are holding? What about a screenshot?
I can show you a picture of two devices side by side: N1 (FRG83) showing 390MB and i9000 (FROYO.JHJP8) with only 304MB.
I have a Galaxy S model GT-I9000B ( brazilian version from VIVO carrier )
I flashed froyo BVJJPD and my ram manager says I have only 304 MB RAM.
weird.
Sigh
The galaxy s actual does have 512mb of RAM inside it. Out of that 512mb, 128mb is used by the gpu or something involving the hardware(I don't really know where so not going to pretend I do). Then out of the remaining 384mb some is used by the system. I say some cos different kernels use a different amount.
Like on damiangtos 2.2 kernel there was 360mb of ram free at one point.
Now that the lag fixes have made strong progress and Froyo's source is almost here, there's one final thing that can be fixed about the SGS: compared to other phones, it's got quite a bit of less USABLE RAM.
Luckily, a cool dev in the i9000 forum has been messing with the kernel and figuring out how to free up more RAM. He's at 356 MB freed up (non-stable) thus far, and about 340 MB stable. This is up from 304 MB by default!!
Take a look if you haven't already. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816229
Thanks to all devs for their hard-work, and I hope this helps you out in some way.
this requires board configuration files which are only available in source, not useful to us until we have source.
has anyone figured out if the 200 some odd megs of missing RAM are used by the GPU? Or does it have its own dedicated RAM?
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this requires board configuration files which are only available in source, not useful to us until we have source.
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So you're saying we need the Captivate source files specifically? Because it works just fine for i9000 SGS.
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has anyone figured out if the 200 some odd megs of missing RAM are used by the GPU? Or does it have its own dedicated RAM?
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The thread details some of it. Apparently Samsung's programmers were lazy and it dedicates quite a bit of RAM for GPU purposes (but doesn't dynamically allocate it based on usage... so that RAM just sits there useless when you're not doing video-intensive applications) and some of it is also for the radio/modem.
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So you're saying we need the Captivate source files specifically? Because it works just fine for i9000 SGS.
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yes, unless you know how to make a captivate froyo kernel without sources and aren't sharing (don't point to xcalibur's kernel, that's an i9000 kernel, not a captivate one)
Still interesting stuff though. Looks like we'll be able to recover at least 20-30 MB of RAM from the GPU. Perhaps more once it gets sorted where each and every drop of that original 512 MB is going.
Would be cool if that is what CM6 was waiting for....
that would yield huge performance increases i'd imagine.
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Would be cool if that is what CM6 was waiting for....
that would yield huge performance increases i'd imagine.
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No it would not, having 140-150MB up from 120-130MB free RAM while sitting on your home screen and running your applications will NOT give your a huge or otherwise performance increase. FREE RAM means it's not being used! this is not a desktop where it uses a lot of swap when running on a low RAM system. the hardware on these devices NEED the alloted RAM to operate correctly. Samsung was not simply "lazy" mess around with the kernel and free up a few more MB RAM and you might find a few VERY RAM intensive applications that perhaps run smoother or what ever but then you are reducing performance of all the hardware features that make your device so nice, I.E the Camera, Radios, GPU. the effort is not worth any possible tiny free RAM boost you might get. why does everyone care so much about the free RAM anyway. I know a LOT of folks are going to jump in here now and ramble on about how it's a big deal and how samsung screwed it up or whatnot, but making those hardware features dynamicly allot RAM would mean that the kernel would have to some VERY efficient prioritizing of hardware/software RAM usage in order to have the device run currently in whole. It makes more sense to me to just do what they did and lock the amount of RAM to those hardware features that would allow them to best operate without your phone radio not working right or your camera not being able to record in 720 because you forgot you had some application open in the background and RAM prioritizing isn't as perfect as it should be. the device runs FINE! Also so this isn't confusing to anyone who might think that I think we want to make the RAM dynamic, I understand it'sstatic thing but the same things apply, those hardware features would just be stock without the correct ammount of RAM all the time.
i thought the cappy had 512 mb of ram... why do all the roms have like 341? im confused >.< either i looked at 3 faulty spec sheets for the captivate or we arent utilizing the full ram potential for the captivate. would someone explain the truth on this matter to a captivate noob like me?
i could be wrong but i believe the 341 is available to use ram, while the rest is being used by the phone to function.
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i could be wrong but i believe the 341 is available to use ram, while the rest is being used by the phone to function.
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that would make sense, but that makes the specs misleading... i traded my HD2 for a cappy because the spec sheet said 512mb of ram and the HD2 only has 411 available to the OS when running android from nand because the rest is dedicated to winmo only (which sucks massively), and i wanted more ram lol, guess i should have looked harder into things, but regardless the captivate is "better" in very many areas, but RAM is literally my deciding factor for so many things lately (like t-mobile with the sensation or sprint with the evo 3d, i would say evo 3d because it has 256mb or so more ram)
This question has been asked and answered several times....
the phone does have 512mb of ram. Like the person above me said the phones os and graphics take up a portion of the ram. All computers and smart phones work the same way.
As a side note android handles ram very well. You don't need to manage it at all by freeing it up. free ram is wasted ram as the os will have to load it back up anyways
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This question has been asked and answered several times....
the phone does have 512mb of ram. Like the person above me said the phones os and graphics take up a portion of the ram. All computers and smart phones work the same way.
As a side note android handles ram very well. You don't need to manage it at all by freeing it up. free ram is wasted ram as the os will have to load it back up anyways
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i know this very well, free ram can be considered wasted ram, unless you need 200mb or so free for a tegra class game, but i think android handles ram awesomely to an extent but can be improved by implementing autokiller memory optimizer in a knowledgable and appropriate way that doesnt hurt optimizations android already has in place, zipaligning, increasing the dalvik heap size, etc... can all be done, im not asking about how android handles ram or anything, and im sorry i didnt know the question had been asked several times i am brand new to the captivate today, literally, and was doing not but seeking information i didnt understand or know, thank you for the explaination though i appreciate it, and im glad to know that my new captivate will utilize the left over 171mb of ram for something unlike my HD2 that couldnt access the last 100mb because it was designated to winmo only. i had an idea that was the case and i was just clarifying to myself because i kept reading rom changelogs stating "enabled more ram now 341mb available" or something along the lines of that and thought to myself "there should be more available already" lol
I honestly think 341MB is enough.
341 MB is alot. But something is taking all that up too. On a fresh boot, half of it is used, and I have 140~170 MB. Its even worse on GB. Most ive gotten is 100 MB free.
So if the half of the 341 plus the mysterious 171 MB that is nowhere to be found, I dont get whats using the other 171 that is not part of the 341. Lol confusing
Same happens to me. Who knows, lol
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I think its the user interface graphics, like scrolling quality is good because that ram is dedicated to things
like that
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Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??
tankwokhwee said:
Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??
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Nope no regrets. Doesn't matter 130+mb, phone still works like a charm.
Nope, the RAM is fine IMO.
Sure as hell don't wish I bought an Atrix, PenTile displays are not for winners.
mine is @ 100-130 pretty much all the time, runs fine here
stock 2.2.2
I'm rooted and modified.
Around 160/180 free.
I not quite sure about my thinking, because every time i tried to play flash using the browser, after loading something i get FC, and is it due to insufficient of ram? I tried the same Flash on SGS II, i works perfectly.
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I not quite sure about my thinking, because every time i tried to play flash using the browser, after loading something i get FC, and is it due to insufficient of ram? I tried the same Flash on SGS II, i works perfectly.
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No issues here. What rom you on?
Stock v10d
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Free RAM is useless. Better app and memory management, well, that's another thing.
Android generally has a problem with auto-starting apps, IMHO. I go mad when I see an app running, while knowing that I didn't start it, don't need it today or any day soon. But it's there, just consuming phone's resources and annoying me. Damn.
Then I kill few of them, even though I read somewhere it's contra productive. That may be true in some ways, only it is not confirmed by subjective feeling which tells me the opposite. Phone gets faster
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Do you feel that the 512 mb ram is insufficient?? usually my phone get ard 130+ mb ram free. I Do personally feel regret getting o2x instead of atrix. Do anyone of you feel the same??
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i feel it this way 2 - just watch this and u will understand why http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QSM27Mvn5Fo and think that is just a prototype same hardware but 1gb of ram
I think that it is insufficient for me sometimes, well maybe thats because some of those useless apps/services are running, we can disable/freeze it by 3rd party app tho.
But overall, the memory is good and enough for me