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Good evening peeps, on a few of my other forums I know I like to sit and talk abut the movies that come out, typically because friends and myself alwatys goto midnight showings because, well, it's way more fun and i'd like to start it here with what was the BEST movie of the summer, year, or decade for all i care lol.
The Dark Knight, the new batman movie, was amazing IMO....best movie i've seen in SO long. it was really long whicih only helped the situation, finally a movie that can have everything take place without skipping around to speedin things up. it was in my opinion by far a great movie and definitely a 10/10 + everyone should see it. christian bale was great, and heath ledger played the joker flawlessly IMHO.
We went to the midnight showing at Emagine Theatre in Novi, Michigan and they sold out 9 theatres for midnight showing..
just amazing...what do u guys think? can't wait for the next....the penguin? or mr. freeze w/ Arnold lol ;-)
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mikechannon said:
Whilst I'm sure you have a point, there is only one Knight of the dark variety:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno
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Yeah, but where is his tumbler?
mikechannon said:
Whilst I'm sure you have a point, there is only one Knight of the dark variety:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno
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And there was me thinking we were gonna be getting some adam west lovelyness?!
http://www.vtap.com/video/%22Adam+West%22+The+Music+Video%21%21/CL0060294878_63b18a082
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And there was me thinking we were gonna be getting some adam west lovelyness?!
http://www.vtap.com/video/%22Adam+West%22+The+Music+Video%21%21/CL0060294878_63b18a082
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Oh dear me!
I think Mike wins this one.
Dave
one word... amazing. heath ledger was brilliant!
It's coming in Italy and it will be mine at first launch day!
movie was awesome kinda scary in a sense
"You complete me."
... know how I got these scars?!?!.....
I love xda-developers. I'm Singaporean and I'm going to Vegas for a convention - what recommendations does anyone have for me (a first-timer in USA) that isn't politically correct on Google?
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I love xda-developers. I'm Singaporean and I'm going to Vegas for a convention - what recommendations does anyone have for me (a first-timer in USA) that isn't politically correct on Google?
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You are absolutely off-topic my friend....
Anyway you are double posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2428552&postcount=12
errrrr...Why So Serious?
I saw it opening night. It is one of, if not the most, amazing movies I have ever seen. It's has action, comedy, whit (and a lot of it, a lot of people probably won't understand much of the meaning), and it's also a bit dark, which made this movie really good. Go see it!!!
Im in Italy, still DarkNight not in theatres
... but i think i will NOT go to first plays: too much crowd. Maybe i'll wait 1-2 week, then go with dochinka maya
Good movie...was it the best action movie ever? No. It was too long in my opinon but Heath Ledger did the Joker justice and made old Jack's take just laughable. All I kept thinking while watching it was, "when is Joker going to show up again?".
Yeah, the Joker was nice and creepy. Only thing i couldn't get was batmans scream/speaking. it always threw me off. 9/10...
ace film joker didnt bother me at all!!!! good old jack was better i feel. but harvey two face totaly stole the show for me!!!! was such a good film after gettting 13 forgian language students kicked out for talking and playing with phones still the best film since last bond.
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ace film joker didnt bother me at all!!!! good old jack was better i feel. but harvey two face totaly stole the show for me!!!! was such a good film after gettting 13 forgian language students kicked out for talking and playing with phones still the best film since last bond.
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Jack's role in Batman w/ Keaton was good
But you have to understand that "The Dark Knight" is based entirelt off the DC comics. The original Batman Movies, while taking elements of the DC comics, still were in a League of there own. You can see the differences in the Characters as well as the story line. 2-Face in the origianal Batman story was burned by Sulfyric Acid during a trial, as in the new one it was a gas burn after the explosion
Heath's role as the Joker in "The Dark Knight" is based off the comic " The Killing Joke". If you read the comic you will see that Heath nailed the role 10/10 and thats why its a shame he died because he deserve all the credit for playing such an amazing role. You can see that he plays the role from this comic because of "wanna know how I got these scars?" In the comic, everytime he said that he had a different story each time.
Jack's role as Joker in The first Batman movie w/ Keaton was also perfect if you compare the character to the conventional Joker.
I think both Jokers were played perfectly but they're hard to compare because they're based off of different Jokers.
All in all the movie was great, except for when Christian Bale talked as Batman, talk about annoying. Nobody did it better then Michael Keaton, but nobody has done it worse the George Clooney LOL
in the terms of l33t american teenagers
the movie was "the -
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felt
Heath carried the movie alot for me
and not just because he died
because he was less silly then the old series or the old movie
more dark like the new movies
and i only felt i could recognize him in few shots in the movie
and thats a point for acting i guess
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Jack's role in Batman w/ Keaton was good
But you have to understand that "The Dark Knight" is based entirelt off the DC comics. The original Batman Movies, while taking elements of the DC comics, still were in a League of there own. You can see the differences in the Characters as well as the story line. 2-Face in the origianal Batman story was burned by Sulfyric Acid during a trial, as in the new one it was a gas burn after the explosion
Heath's role as the Joker in "The Dark Knight" is based off the comic " The Killing Joke". If you read the comic you will see that Heath nailed the role 10/10 and thats why its a shame he died because he deserve all the credit for playing such an amazing role. You can see that he plays the role from this comic because of "wanna know how I got these scars?" In the comic, everytime he said that he had a different story each time.
Jack's role as Joker in The first Batman movie w/ Keaton was also perfect if you compare the character to the conventional Joker.
I think both Jokers were played perfectly but they're hard to compare because they're based off of different Jokers.
All in all the movie was great, except for when Christian Bale talked as Batman, talk about annoying. Nobody did it better then Michael Keaton, but nobody has done it worse the George Clooney LOL
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i know it has been based on that but i felt it wasnt right for me. plus i felt being a 12 a in the uk was stupid children for any age under 18 maybe get away with a 15 should not be seeing people make pencils vanish using some ones face.
dont get me wrong i loved the film will be going to see it again but i prefure my nutters to almost be normal and have a sens of humility in them so when they do the really nasty stuff its alot more shocking. for instance it would be alot more of a shock if say g w bush let lose on a crowd with an uzi than some nut job (oh w8 g w bush is a nutter ok say brad pitt)
yes...major league baseball...since this is the off topic forum, and spring exhibition games are just days away!
I invite all baseball fans to talk about their teams, likes, dislikes, views on specific players
..as everyon can see from my avatar, I am an AVID yankee fan, and am fairly confident 2009 = 27
even if we 'bought' our team, its the yankees being the yankees, hate it or love it (i love it)
and NO I am not a fan because of there extensive pay roll or all-star lineup
Boooooooo! Orioles!
chrisrc1985 said:
yes...major league baseball...since this is the off topic forum, and spring exhibition games are just days away!
I invite all baseball fans to talk about their teams, likes, dislikes, views on specific players
..as everyon can see from my avatar, I am an AVID yankee fan, and am fairly confident 2009 = 27
even if we 'bought' our team, its the yankees being the yankees, hate it or love it (i love it)
and NO I am not a fan because of there extensive pay roll or all-star lineup
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You are hereby expelled from Red Sox Nation and have 30 days to move out of R I .
Even with your " bought team ", I will make some predictions. Burnett will turn into the Burnett the Jays wasted millions on. Sabathia will wilt under the pressure and media glare of New York ( ala Randy Johnson ), Hal and Hank are just idiots and will never measure up to Dad, No matter how much money they spend.
Joba will never live up to the hype, too much too soon. Alex will be dogged and distracted all year by steroids and Madonna. We will see how Teixeira plays now that he is a rich man, set for life and really has everything to prove, but nothing to play for anymore. Posada is done, Matsui is done. Damon is done.
And Girardi won't be able to keep the circus together, like Torre did.
Watching the RED SOX in the World Series will be tough for N.Y. but hey they must be getting used to it by now. Go Sox
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You are hereby expelled from Red Sox Nation and have 30 days to move out of R I .
Even with your " bought team ", I will make some predictions. Burnett will turn into the Burnett the Jays wasted millions on. Sabathia will wilt under the pressure and media glare of New York ( ala Randy Johnson ), Hal and Hank are just idiots and will never measure up to Dad, No matter how much money they spend.
Joba will never live up to the hype, too much too soon. Alex will be dogged and distracted all year by steroids and Madonna. We will see how Teixeira plays now that he is a rich man, set for life and really has everything to prove, but nothing to play for anymore. Posada is done, Matsui is done. Damon is done.
And Girardi won't be able to keep the circus together, like Torre did.
Watching the RED SOX in the World Series will be tough for N.Y. but hey they must be getting used to it by now. Go Sox
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nothing can be said on burnette and sabathia, except that ..YOUR WRONG haha...we will have to wait until the season begins, however, Burnette will be getting better run support which will lead to more wins, giving him better confidence, and check his stats, last year, 35 games 231SO 86BB, not so shabby, that 18w 10L will translate to 21-9, and sabathia, im going to say 23w - 7L
damon, done. this is true, cabrera will step up his season, if he doesnt then he goes bye bye, and he wants to stay in NY.
Matsui is still a quality hitter, if we already have a DH he will be a valuable trade option, perhaps up the bullpen. Joba has pretty much already proven himself. Phil Hughes, should take his job as set up man, unless there is a injury to the starting rotation. and Giradi has already done a hell of a job last season with the mess he was brought into
hank + hals dicks will never be as big as Georgey boy, this is true
and p.s I excommunicated myself from R.S nation a long time ago...born a yankee fan
..anything i miss lol
Do you have Manila 2D on your Tilt w/ HD IV ?
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2793328&postcount=3353
wow..thats sweet..thanks a lot man!
not so bad for a redsox fan lol
Red Sox are going all the way this year ! NYY spent tons of $$$ just to lose again this year....
Sorry, I had to.....
i know this is a bit outdated...however to my 2 friendly redsox fans above me id like to remind you A-Rod, first at bat HOMER BABY! =]
Ok so i have the WDTV and a 2TB external....makes for a pretty sick set up
I download movies via vuze and i'm trying to amass the ultimate movie collection. If you could post here as many movies as you can think off that I should get for my collection and if i don't have them ill give it a consideration
Come on guys, I know theres plenty of you out there. Let's name some movies. I'll name some of the ones i have to spur your mind...
i got the mission impossible trilogy, the die hard quad, aliens trilogy, lord of the rings trilogy, terminator series, no country for old men, v for vendetta, the harold and kumars, all the american pies, 40 year old virgin, trainspotting, Superbad, Aliens series, The Gumball Rally, Burn After Reading, the Bourne trilogy, 28 days later, american gangster, american graffiti, American History X, Anchorman, Angels and Demons, Animal House, Batman Begins, Blazing Saddles, Blood Diamond, Bruno, Caddyshack, Catch me if you can, Cloverfield, Crank, Cry Wolf, Dawn of the dead, deja vu, District 9, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Fight club, Forgetting sarah marshall, Forrest Gump, Ghost town, Gladiator, Godfathers, gone in 60 seconds, Good will hunting, Goodfellas, Hancock, Hannibal series, I am legend, In bruges, Inglorious basterds, Inside man, iron man, juno, jurassic parks, kill bill volumes, Lock Stock and Two Smoking barrels, Lord of war, Meet the fockers and parents, Memento, Observe and Report, One flew over the cuckoos nest, Orphan, Pineapple express, Primal fear, Quantuam of solace, All the Rockys, Role Models, Rush hour trilogy, Scarface, Seven pounds, Sex drive, shooter, Smokin aces, all the star wars, swingers, Tenacious D, The amityville horror, The blair witch project, The curious case of benjamin button, The dark knight, The day the earth stood still, The departed, The fast and the furious series, The grudges, The happening, the invention of lying, the matrixes, the orphanage, the ring, the score, the shawshank redemption, the shining, the silence of the lambs, the sixth sense, the strangers, the uninvited, the village, the wackness, thick as thieves, this is spinal tap, trainspotting, tropic thunder, turistas, twelve monkeys, wedding crashers, whiteout, zodiac and zombieland
Egads man!!! Can't you see that everyone is tuned in to something where the whole country's future isbat stake!!!! Some patience man!!!!
Edit: What...? ... Obama who?....on tv?
no...I'm talkin about the Ipad thread!!!
The Godfather Trilogy
Reservoir Dogs
Queen of the Damn
Kill Bill
Fight Club
Ocean's 11
American Story X
Transformers
The Illusionist
Gone In 60 Seconds
Resident Evil trilogy
Silent Hill
The Good Shepherd
Crash
The Bourne Trilogy
Mr. Brooks
Matrix Triology
Ice Age
Children Of Men
Let the right one in
The Assassination of Jesse James
Knowing
Pride and Glory
I Am Legend
Rocknrolla
Gran Torino
Valkyrie
Seven Pounds
Terminator Salvation
The taking of Pelham 1 2 3
Star Trek 2009
Inglorious Basterds
Public Enemy
Here is my list. Hope you enjoy them mate.
Se7en
Pulp Fiction
Snatch
A Fistful of Dollars (1st in Dollars Trilogy)
For a Few Dollars More (2nd in Dollars Trilogy)
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (3rd in Dollars Trilogy)
Dirty Harry
Desperado (2nd in Mariachi Trilogy) - The first in this trilogy is in Spanish, and I haven't yet watched it.
Once Upon a Time in Mexico (3rd in Mariachi Trilogy)
Four Brothers
Reservoir Dogs
The Hangover
Uh... That's all I can think of right now.
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Ok so i have the WDTV and a 2TB external....makes for a pretty sick set up
I download movies via vuze and i'm trying to amass the ultimate movie collection. If you could post here as many movies as you can think off that I should get for my collection and if i don't have them ill give it a consideration
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514826&highlight=favourite+movie
Film List
Here's the list of the HD movies i have. 1080 & 720. you can use this as start.
Haven't made a list yet for my stdd dvdrips, documentaries, cartoons, animations, tv series, standup comedies, kids stuff. if you want i can do a simple cmd prompt dir list. pm me if interested.
For the ultimate movie db, youre gonna need much more than 2TB. and you will probably need some RAID mode because losing your main drive will drive you nuts.
I have a 8TB NAS on Raid 5 (6.5TB usable) and it's 70% full already.
If you have the WD TV Live, you can access your media via LAN instead of local USB, it's much more flexible and you wont need to invest in media centre.
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Here's the list of the HD movies i have. 1080 & 720. you can use this as start.
Haven't made a list yet for my stdd dvdrips, documentaries, cartoons, animations, tv series, standup comedies, kids stuff. if you want i can do a simple cmd prompt dir list. pm me if interested.
For the ultimate movie db, youre gonna need much more than 2TB. and you will probably need some RAID mode because losing your main drive will drive you nuts.
I have a 8TB NAS on Raid 5 (6.5TB usable) and it's 70% full already.
If you have the WD TV Live, you can access your media via LAN instead of local USB, it's much more flexible and you wont need to invest in media centre.
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Yea well 2 TB is a start lol...and i don't download tv series cause with a computer with HDMI output you can "obtain" any television show through a number of sites
The purpose of this thread is to both provide others with ideas of what to watch and perhaps build interest in shows that you may have not previously considered.
List (in your own words):
The shows that you are currently watching
What the are about
Why you like them
Black Mirror (Contains profanity)
About: A dystopian future drama/sci-fi series in which humanity has become enslaved in itself. Each episode is basically it's own show and has some sort of bizarre twist.
Why I like it: It's bizarre, you don't really know the twist until the end and it is a fresh take at TV. Nothing is outside the realm of possibility on this show. (Netflix is renewing this one)
The Transporter (Contains nudity)
About: Based on the movies, it a series of mini-stories of Frank's life as the transporter
Why I like it While it isn't the same actor as the movie (Jason Statham), it is entertaining never the less. It's a bit cheesy but the plot lines are interesting and the special effects aren't bad.
X-Files
About: Mystery stories about the bizarre and aliens.
Why I like it: Really really cheesy by todays standards but its nostalgia.
Hemlock Grove (Contains profanity)
About: To be honest I have no fricken clue but see below
Why I like it It has a bizarre feel to it, almost like American Horror story'ish but better
LillyHammer (Contains profanity & Nudity)
About: A comedy mob story about a mobster who goes into hiding in Norway and tries to live a quite life but don't go as planned.
Why I like it It's got Steven Van Zandt from the Sopranos and it is just a funny awkward humors show.
Marco Polo (Contains profanity & Nudity)
About: Netflix's verison of Game of Thrones but taking place in Asia. That about sums it up.
Why I like it It's a different take on Game of Thrones (which I have never seen because I don't have HBO)
Orange is the New Black (Contains profanity & Nudity)
About: A girl who made all the right choices to live the high life find that they were wrong once she's grown up. Goes to prison and learns that life is very different.
Why I like it It's interesting to see how different interaction is on the inside and the characters she encounters. Crazy Eyes is hilarious too.
House of Cards
I just binge watched all 3 seasons of House of Cards this Labor Day weekend. It was pretty good and I recommend it. Political drama with scandals, getting ahead, etc etc
Very reflective of our current political scene with the lack of ethics etc, but holds your attention with amazing acting, especially by Kevin Spacey who was an awesome actor in his own right before the show.
Definitely recommend, and you can get all 3 seasons on Netflix, with season 4 coming in 2016 (filming now)
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
This show is funny as hell. And not that lame humor you see in most shows like Big Bang Theory and Friends etc (no offense if you like those shows) but more subtle and "intelligent" humor, somewhat like 30 Rock but even a bit different and better I think.
The plot doesn't matter too much, but it's some girl who was in a bunker for years while some dude had them in there because they thought the end of the world happened, then she comes out to see the world etc, but it's really funny and definitely recommended. Season 1 is on Netflix to binge watch, season 2 coming in 2016.
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Both shows I mention are actually owned by Netflix, who in my opinion has hit home runs with their original broadcasting.
@SyCoREAPER - you've got me interested in Black Mirror now, never even heard of it and have been looking for a new binge watching show to compliment my Sunday NFL couch sitting!
I watch very little TV, I will go a month without watching literally anything then spend 3 days literally do nothing but binge watching a show, so these Netflix shows are really good for that purpose.
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Can you share how to unblock netflix for a specific country?
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Not really on topic for this thread, but I think you can only do it with a VPN possibly... probably better to discuss it in another thread though.
If you've seen the movie, go ahead and share your thoughts here. I'll go first. Obviously, I understand this is just a movie, it's made for the entertainment value, but I can't help picking it apart.
Overall, I think the movie did what it was supposed to do - a "feel good" flick about America. The nostalgia was nice. But, my experience as a Marine veteran as well as knowledge of military aviation raised a lot of issues for me.
First...The SR-72/Aurora/Darkwing project. It's plausible that someone like Maverick could indeed become a test pilot, but most such projects are run under the Air Force, at the end of a pilot's career. It would have made more sense to put this at the end of the movie, although he would have a literal snowflake's chance in hell of surviving a Mach 10+ disintegration. The human body cannot withstand supersonic ejection; the force of the air stream can literally rip your body apart. Maverick would have been pink mist. Also...You crash a multi-billion (if not trillion) dollar prototype, chances are you'll never fly again.
This brings me to the bar scene, where apparently no one knows who he is, and he eventually gets thrown out by Hangman and the other pilots. The problem with this is, someone like Maverick would have quite the reputation; everyone there would have been buying him drinks, not throwing him out on his ass. Not to mention anyone in the military knows you don't put your hands on an O-6.
I do like the line where he tells Penny "Being a fighter pilot is what I am". This is true for pretty much every career pilot I've known - their whole life revolves around it, and when it's over, they have a lot of trouble finding a sense of purpose. It's tough to know you're staring at the end of something you've done (and loved) your entire adult life, wondering what the hell do you do now?
The element of TOPGUN itself, the Navy's Strike Fighter Tactics Instructor program, was rather lacking. The pilots were all graduates of TOPGUN, sure...but the idea that only they could perform the mission doesn't make sense. In reality, the military would simply use whatever assets that were the closest and most capable. But, assuming all this...Why are all these pilots struggling against G's like 2nd week flight school boots in the G trainer? They're fighter pilots, not truck drivers. They should be well used to handling high Gs with composure. Then Phoenix crashes her jet...Bird strikes are a thing, engine flameouts are a thing, but she apparently forgot all the boldface procedures. Chances are she'd still have at least limited power even with a fragged motor, and there's no reason she'd lose control of the jet. Still, she crashed it, and they still somehow sent her on this high risk mission. In reality, that wouldn't happen...She wouldn't necessarily be grounded, but she'd be off the team after that. And why are they flying out of NAS North Island? TOPGUN has been at NAS Fallon since 1996, and it's just a waste of gas to fly back and forth that far. That being said, they could have been training at MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, also out in the middle of the Mojave desert. Also, why are two admirals running TOPGUN? And what's the point of Hangman? His story arc is basically "mean girl" > "Not mean girl". No pilot would volunteer for mission commander; if anything they'd fight about who DOESN'T want to be mission commander.
The mission itself doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's extremely unlikely that something high risk like this would be flown by a four ship strike package of Rhinos (Super Hornets). A real strike package would have included AWACS, air superiority fighters, SEAD taking out the SAMs, most likely some EA-18G Growlers...and if they absolutely had to be subtle, they'd use F-35Cs....assuming the mission wasn't carried out by Air Force B-2's. GPS jamming is a thing, but it's much harder to jam laser, and they'd probably drop some SEALs in to lase the target for them. The whole valley thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense, either. No way is any adversary going to leave such an obvious back door open. That entire valley would be littered with SAMs, MANPADs, and AAA....and if for whatever reason they didn't see them on radar (which they would have while they were out to sea) they would definitely have heard them. The TLAM strike does make sense, but they'd probably program them with an off-axis waypoint so they didn't come in from the same direction as the fighters. The pilots wouldn't be too happy about missiles flying a couple hundred feet over their heads; if one goes haywire, that could be it for you or your wingman. It's worth noting that TLAMs are subsonic cruise missiles, too, so they wouldn't be outrunning fighters cruising at 400+ knots.
The diving delivery doesn't make a whole lot of sense. F/A-18s are 4th generation fighters; laser guided bombs don't have to be dropped in a dive, they just have to be dropped into a virtual "basket" where the seeker head can acquire the laser signal. They could do this while staying under the rim of the mountain crater.
The F-14 scene is pretty cool, although if he'd taken off using flaps...he might have saved the nose gear. But, if he saved the nose gear, he wouldn't be able to barricade, and movies have to have tension, right? That being said, the chances of surviving against not just one, but two Su-57s in a F-14 are...Not great. The Felon's capabilities are doubted, sure...the cockpit looks like it has very poor rear visibility...but, it is a 5th gen fighter with 3D thrust vectoring. It would make quick work out of the heavy, ungainly F-35, let alone a Tomcat, and modern heat seeking missiles like the AIM-9X and R-73 (R-74 in the Su-57's case) are hard to decoy with flares. There's no way flying through a canyon would confuse the Felon's systems...they'd just hang back and keep firing missiles until they brought the Tomcat down. They wouldn't bother following it through the canyon, either...they could just fly a couple thousand feet above and behind and maintain visual contact.
Finally...nobody would be crowding the flight deck celebrating. Everyone topside has a job; if your job doesn't involve you being on the flight deck, you won't be there. Their first priority would be ensuring nothing caught fire, and they did that. Second priority would be clearing the deck, because an aircraft carrier is busy 24/7 with launches, recoveries, and training.
Anyway, that's just my take. Feel free to share yours.
We Were Soldiers and Hamburger Hill are good... never liked Tom bs Cruise at all.
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We Were Soldiers and Hamburger Hill are good... never liked Tom bs Cruise at all.
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Hacksaw Ridge was pretty excellent too. I'm not a huge fan of Cruise either but the intent here is to talk about what we like or didn't like about Maverick
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Hacksaw Ridge was pretty excellent too. I'm not a huge fan of Cruise either but the intent here is to talk about what we like or didn't like about Maverick
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Numerous technical errors as usual... try to pretend you're stupid, don't think, pretend it's not Tom Cruise and the movie might be ok.
Probably not.
I once shot out a 30" crt with a 9mm Glaser safety slug because Tom Cruise was on it at that time. Got him center mass
Deeply satisfying and the micro shrapnel from it was incredible. Replaced the crt for $169... it was so worth it.
After thinking over, watch Spy Hard instead. Far more believable, better script and acting too
Dang! Glad I saw the movie before reading all of this. I loved it! Could care less about all the technical authenticity or whatever, I go to the movies to forget about the real world, and if I wanted to see all this technical stuff, I could have saved the $60 bucks, had a few sips of Scotch and looked it all up on the interwebz, and forgotten all about it anyways!
Good thing Badgers are simple creatures!
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Dang! Glad I saw the movie before reading all of this. I loved it! Could care less about all the technical authenticity or whatever, I go to the movies to forget about the real world, and if I wanted to see all this technical stuff, I could have saved the $60 bucks, had a few sips of Scotch and looked it all up on the interwebz, and forgotten all about it anyways!
Good thing Badgers are simple creatures!
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Any critter that decorates its den entrance with bones from its plunders isn't a simple creature
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I think you meant, Simply effective!
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I think you meant, Simply effective!
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Simply hungry too
Meh... saw it.
Great cinematography... at times,
sound track- meh,
script- another death star miracle... it was pretentious and rehashed.
wokeness- a token women top gun, lame.
It had a click to it but it felt like a 80yo cougar making a pass at you.
It's ok... hella better then any of the new woke Disney crap
Guess I'll watch it again. Older Tom Cruise isn't nearly as anoying as young TC.
What do two F18 pilots, Wombat and Mover think?
They bring up some interesting aspects of the movie.
I want to believe... *explodes into pink mist*
The sequel to a classic created another classic...Tom Cruise back as Maverick is fantastic...a film to watch and re-watch..
V0latyle said:
If you've seen the movie, go ahead and share your thoughts here. I'll go first. Obviously, I understand this is just a movie, it's made for the entertainment value, but I can't help picking it apart.
Overall, I think the movie did what it was supposed to do - a "feel good" flick about America. The nostalgia was nice. But, my experience as a Marine veteran as well as knowledge of military aviation raised a lot of issues for me.
First...The SR-72/Aurora/Darkwing project. It's plausible that someone like Maverick could indeed become a test pilot, but most such projects are run under the Air Force, at the end of a pilot's career. It would have made more sense to put this at the end of the movie, although he would have a literal snowflake's chance in hell of surviving a Mach 10+ disintegration. The human body cannot withstand supersonic ejection; the force of the air stream can literally rip your body apart. Maverick would have been pink mist. Also...You crash a multi-billion (if not trillion) dollar prototype, chances are you'll never fly again.
This brings me to the bar scene, where apparently no one knows who he is, and he eventually gets thrown out by Hangman and the other pilots. The problem with this is, someone like Maverick would have quite the reputation; everyone there would have been buying him drinks, not throwing him out on his ass.
I do like the line where he tells Penny "Being a fighter pilot is what I am". This is true for pretty much every career pilot I've known - their whole life revolves around it, and when it's over, they have a lot of trouble finding a sense of purpose. It's tough to know you're staring at the end of something you've done (and loved) your entire adult life, wondering what the hell do you do now?
The element of TOPGUN itself, the Navy's Strike Fighter Tactics Instructor program, was rather lacking. The pilots were all graduates of TOPGUN, sure...but the idea that only they could perform the mission doesn't make sense. In reality, the military would simply use whatever assets that were the closest and most capable. But, assuming all this...Why are all these pilots struggling against G's like 2nd week flight school boots in the G trainer? They're fighter pilots, not truck drivers. They should be well used to handling high Gs with composure. Then Phoenix crashes her jet...Bird strikes are a thing, engine flameouts are a thing, but she apparently forgot all the boldface procedures. Chances are she'd still have at least limited power even with a fragged motor, and there's no reason she'd lose control of the jet. Still, she crashed it, and they still somehow sent her on this high risk mission. In reality, that wouldn't happen...She wouldn't necessarily be grounded, but she'd be off the team after that. And why are they flying out of NAS North Island? TOPGUN has been at NAS Fallon since 1996, and it's just a waste of gas to fly back and forth that far. That being said, they could have been training at MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, also out in the middle of the Mojave desert. Also, why are two admirals running TOPGUN? And what's the point of Hangman? His story arc is basically "mean girl" > "Not mean girl". No pilot would volunteer for mission commander; if anything they'd fight about who DOESN'T want to be mission commander.
The mission itself doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's extremely unlikely that something high risk like this would be flown by a four ship strike package of Rhinos (Super Hornets). A real strike package would have included AWACS, air superiority fighters, SEAD taking out the SAMs, most likely some EA-18G Growlers...and if they absolutely had to be subtle, they'd use F-35Cs....assuming the mission wasn't carried out by Air Force B-2's. GPS jamming is a thing, but it's much harder to jam laser, and they'd probably drop some SEALs in to lase the target for them. The whole valley thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense, either. No way is any adversary going to leave such an obvious back door open. That entire valley would be littered with SAMs, MANPADs, and AAA....and if for whatever reason they didn't see them on radar (which they would have while they were out to sea) they would definitely have heard them. The TLAM strike does make sense, but they'd probably program them with an off-axis waypoint so they didn't come in from the same direction as the fighters. The pilots wouldn't be too happy about missiles flying a couple hundred feet over their heads; if one goes haywire, that could be it for you or your wingman. It's worth noting that TLAMs are subsonic cruise missiles, too, so they wouldn't be outrunning fighters cruising at 400+ knots.
The diving delivery doesn't make a whole lot of sense. F/A-18s are 4th generation fighters; laser guided bombs don't have to be dropped in a dive, they just have to be dropped into a virtual "basket" where the seeker head can acquire the laser signal. They could do this while staying under the rim of the mountain crater.
The F-14 scene is pretty cool, although if he'd taken off using flaps...he might have saved the nose gear. But, if he saved the nose gear, he wouldn't be able to barricade, and movies have to have tension, right? That being said, the chances of surviving against not just one, but two Su-57s in a F-14 are...Not great. The Felon's capabilities are doubted, sure...the cockpit looks like it has very poor rear visibility...but, it is a 5th gen fighter with 3D thrust vectoring. It would make quick work out of the heavy, ungainly F-35, let alone a Tomcat, and modern heat seeking missiles like the AIM-9X and R-73 (R-74 in the Su-57's case) are hard to decoy with flares. There's no way flying through a canyon would confuse the Felon's systems...they'd just hang back and keep firing missiles until they brought the Tomcat down. They wouldn't bother following it through the canyon, either...they could just fly a couple thousand feet above and behind and maintain visual contact.
Finally...nobody would be crowding the flight deck celebrating. Everyone topside has a job; if your job doesn't involve you being on the flight deck, you won't be there. Their first priority would be ensuring nothing caught fire, and they did that. Second priority would be clearing the deck, because an aircraft carrier is busy 24/7 with launches, recoveries, and training.
Anyway, that's just my take. Feel free to share yours.
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The best Way to explain what I think is summed up in the video of this guy..
*not my video* hope it’s ok to post
I think maverick died in the beginning and lived his dream afterlife. However, we will never know.
I’ve read many posts about it, so I don’t think I’m the only one (besides the guy making the video).
It makes sense. But if he died that also means.. no part 3. 🫤
Cv7676 said:
The best Way to explain what I think is summed up in the video of this guy..
*not my video* hope it’s ok to post
I think maverick died in the beginning and lived his dream afterlife. However, we will never know.
I’ve read many posts about it, so I don’t think I’m the only one (besides the guy making the video).
It makes sense. But if he died that also means.. no part 3. 🫤
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That's one way to put it.
On another topic, I saw several comments on YouTube insisting that they used minimal CGI in the movie because Tom Cruise apparently doesn't like doing CGI. So, explain these:
- The SR-72 Darkstar is still in development; if there are any flying prototypes, they are undoubtedly UAVs, much less capable of Mach 10.
- The US military has very specific rules on "safety bubbles" in training - a buffer zone around your aircraft that MUST be clear of other aircraft, the only exceptions being formation flight. Even professional stunt pilots like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds maintain "bubbles" of at least several hundred feet and use perspective angles to create the illusion of much closer proximity for maneuvers such as the head on break. Why would the military break hard and fast rules written in blood for a film?
- There are only 5 total flying Su-57/PAK-FA fighters, all in the Russian Air Force. How exactly did the Navy gain cooperation from a historically belligerent foreign military to use their 5th generation fighters for a film?
- The only flying F-14 Tomcats are all owned by Iran, again historically belligerent towards the United States, so same problem as above. While a real F-14 was used in the movie, it's a non-flying airframe with no engines or avionics that was shipped in pieces to the film set.
- The missiles...think those were real?
- The one thing that MIGHT be real would be the Mi-24 helicopter, just because there are so many all around the world.
V0latyle said:
That's one way to put it.
On another topic, I saw several comments on YouTube insisting that they used minimal CGI in the movie because Tom Cruise apparently doesn't like doing CGI. So, explain these:
- The SR-72 Darkstar is still in development; if there are any flying prototypes, they are undoubtedly UAVs, much less capable of Mach 10.
- The US military has very specific rules on "safety bubbles" in training - a buffer zone around your aircraft that MUST be clear of other aircraft, the only exceptions being formation flight. Even professional stunt pilots like the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds maintain "bubbles" of at least several hundred feet and use perspective angles to create the illusion of much closer proximity for maneuvers such as the head on break. Why would the military break hard and fast rules written in blood for a film?
- There are only 5 total flying Su-57/PAK-FA fighters, all in the Russian Air Force. How exactly did the Navy gain cooperation from a historically belligerent foreign military to use their 5th generation fighters for a film?
- The only flying F-14 Tomcats are all owned by Iran, again historically belligerent towards the United States, so same problem as above. While a real F-14 was used in the movie, it's a non-flying airframe with no engines or avionics that was shipped in pieces to the film set.
- The missiles...think those were real?
- The one thing that MIGHT be real would be the Mi-24 helicopter, just because there are so many all around the world.
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If you watch Hamburger Hill or We Were Soldiers you don't have turn off your your intellect while watching, but it may get bruised. Hamburger Hill is one of the most realistic war movies ever made. My Nam buddy Al said "It was like that!". It seems plotless and random, horrible $hit happens just like war. Hard to say who "won".
I've watched Hamburger Hill over a dozen times.
Das Boot (director's cut) is another excellent war movie. Uboat ace Captain Eric Topp was a consultant for that film.
blackhawk said:
If you watch Hamburger Hill or We Were Soldiers you don't have turn off your your intellect while watching, but it may get bruised. Hamburger Hill is one of the most realistic war movies ever made. My Nam buddy Al said "It was like that!". It seems plotless and random, horrible $hit happens just like war. Hard to say who "won".
I've watched Hamburger Hill over a dozen times.
Das Boot (director's cut) is another excellent war movie. Uboat ace Captain Eric Topp was a consultant for that film.
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Yeah. And the whole point of Top Gun is a feel good all American movie. If we want to talk about ridiculously unrealistic, how about Mission: Impossible...
V0latyle said:
Yeah. And the whole point of Top Gun is a feel good all American movie. If we want to talk about ridiculously unrealistic, how about Mission: Impossible...
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Yeah I blew MI off after a few minutes
The Bruce Lee movies still impress, he was pulling punches and nunchuk hits so fast it was a blur even at 40fps? Wow. Like Jimi on the guitar, where they mere mortals?
Two oldies but goodies are the original Freaks (all the freaks are real) and Spider Baby with a young Sid Haig, a stellar performance from Lon Chaney jr plus more top shelf character actors.
blackhawk said:
Yeah I blew MI off after a few minutes
The Bruce Lee movies still impress, he was pulling punches and nunchuk hits so fast it was a blur even at 40fps? Wow. Like Jimi on the guitar, where they mere mortals?
Two oldies but goodies are the original Freaks (all the freaks are real) and Spider Baby with a young Sid Haig, a stellar performance from Lon Chaney jr plus more top shelf character actors.
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Typical movie framerate is 24fps. I've honestly never watched the Bruce Lee movies so I don't know.
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Typical movie framerate is 24fps. I've honestly never watched the Bruce Lee movies so I don't know.
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Maybe 36fps, they deliberately used a higher frame rate to shoot the action scenes. Don't ask me how they integrated that?
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Maybe 36fps, they deliberately used a higher frame rate to shoot the action scenes. Don't ask me how they integrated that?
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Now there's a technical brain teaser. Before digital film, both cameras and film projectors were mechanical, so the movie had to be played at the same rate at which it was filmed. Variable speeds would be a problem since the soundtrack was synchronized to the film as well. It's not so difficult with digital technology, but most video encoders use a static frame rate - the BIT rate can be variable, wherein the "depth" of the information recorded can vary, but the frame rate generally doesn't.
Now if they shot the entire movie in 36fps, that would make sense.
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Now there's a technical brain teaser. Before digital film, both cameras and film projectors were mechanical, so the movie had to be played at the same rate at which it was filmed. Variable speeds would be a problem since the soundtrack was synchronized to the film as well. It's not so difficult with digital technology, but most video encoders use a static frame rate - the BIT rate can be variable, wherein the "depth" of the information recorded can vary, but the frame rate generally doesn't.
Now if they shot the entire movie in 36fps, that would make sense.
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36fps it appears to be. Lee was incredibly fast and formidable.
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36fps it appears to be. Lee was incredibly fast and formidable.
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Oh okay, so they shot at 34fps, which resulted in a bit of a "slow motion" effect when played at the standard 24fps.