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Hi guys,
This is my first post and unfortunately stuck at a dead end, i got my missus the htc diamond from vodafone 3 weeks ago (uk) yesterday we noticed that we could update it using the update from vodafone's website.
Now the htc is running irregular, the touchflo interface runs, but when ever you swipe through the icons (weather, home, contacts etc) it just skips to the buttons instead of scrolling through them in its animated gesture, Also, i thought the update would contain performance updates, but now its even slower on the touchflo ui, Has anyone else had this problem soo far? i think if i remember rightly, the rom was the 1.93 version,
Any help will be appreciated
Yep, the animations were removed from 1.93 to make it feel snappier. It might be worth doing a hard reset after the rom update.
Bummer, i thought so, Its just a bit more stuttery now without the scrolling animations, Its a bit of a stupid thing to do seeing as the interface was one of the main selling points of the phone!
Is there any way to bring back the animation (this is the partners phone so she likes animations etc)
Maybe reverting back the touchflo software as i think its different from the initial release.
Anyone else noticed bugs in the vodafone release?
Just found the original manilla theme after some googling, as the phone had that awful vodafone home screen, the buttons now animate, just not the wallpaper. So we're getting there, now gonna install touchflo config and run the performance tweaks
This is soo strange, how do i add music to play on the touchflo music applet? It will search if i reset it, but it still wont find any tracks even though i've got them installed on \internal storage, Does anyone have a simple answer to this one
Totally confused (even after years of using wm)
Search for TLR-Manilla.cab (if have lost the link). That cabfile will reinstall the animations from the previous ROM.
so whats the difference animated weather?
what are the pros and cons of using either?
or are they really just the same?
let the flames begin
I searched touchflo2d vs 3d and couldnt find any info
so sorry in advanced if it was already covered else where.
hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
More importantly right now, with M3d you can't put your phone into standby while it's running. And on my phone it ran like a dog!
guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
kaiserII101 said:
hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
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ah
my 1st attempt at getting tf3d to install on my stock rom was a failer it just kept looping loading touch here to load and would freeze up and never load. I did a hardreset and I got 2d to load.
so with t3d it needs to be installed on top of a cooked rom it wont run on a stock 6.1 rom?
can you get both options to show up under home options or is it 1 or the other. I like play with my apps and switch back and forth till I decide which one works best for me being able install both would ber great less trouble hardrestting each time I wqant to compare.
thanks for replying
you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
I use L26 TF3D Rom V4 and even though it is a little annoying to have to kill (turn off) Manilla everytime you want to put your phone to sleep, it is a great rom. My question is this. What is the difference between Manilla and Throttle? I tried searching but perhaps I did not search correctly. Thanks everyone.
kaiserII101 said:
you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
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Ah thanks I thought I followed all the instructions in your t3d thread correctly.
I just got my tilt so will wait a few weeks (atleast till the 90 warranty runs out) before I start flashing cooked roms to it. Im using a ported blackstone m2d rom on my wizard and refuse to use the old htchome screen on my new phone
thanks for the help I would have spet the next few days trying to get t3d to work on my factory rom.
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guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
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Ooh - no. That thread must have started about a week after I last tried TF3D and I missed it! I'll have to give it another try now.... (damn you )
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
joseph.sapri said:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
mukhan said:
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
I started up this thread for any Kaiser user who uses, develops or does anything with Touch flo 3d Qvga (I Know there are other threads about these programs, this is to bring it into one place).
Posts on Applications, themes or anything for tf3d-qvga-3 and Touchflo 2d v 2.0 build 1919 is welcome!
Here is the kaiser D3D Driver.
If any Concerns Contact me at: [email protected]
I found a Standby App that shuts down TF3D when you power down:
Youtube App Also:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
Dukenukemx said:
I thought Touch flo 3d doesn't work on Kaiser? Did someone get it working?
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It works, it just doesn't work very well. TF3D needs the HTC-Class Action drivers, which are incompatible with all ROMS running the 101MB RAM hack. In addition, even if it does work on your ROM, a bug with the drivers prevents the device from entering standby while TF3D was enabled. A mortscript was made to disable it when the device was suspended or going to suspend, but it still took awhile and sometimes didn't work at all. Then, it would resume TF3D after waking the device, which also took awhile and intermittently worked.
There was a thread awhile back here, which put all the information in one place, so check it out if you're interested. But the way I see it, until fully working ATI Imageon/MSM7200 drivers are released for our devices, TF3D is unusable. If you want something that works well though, try the newest Manila 2d from the HTC Mega, which has the flipping clock and some of the looks of TF3D without the problems, and with this installed, it looks pretty similar.
Last nite i managed to experiment and install TF3D! on my htc tytn II, i used Unholy's Gaming Rom which doesnt have 101 ram and has D3D Drivers built in, i have to say for stuff thats experimental it does work quite well, its responsive and looks fantastic, it does take a bit to initialise once u come out of standby/sleep, but other than that i had a total ram usage of 50% used, 50% free which wasnt too bad, i think a fully working TF3D for our Kaisers is not too far away, as long as development continues, big up to da guys who have made this possible!
The problem seems to be that the drivers are in terrible shape. Doesn't work with roms using 101MB ram hack, and it won't allow the phone to go into standby.
How different is the MSM7200 vs MSM7201A? If devices using the MSM7201A chipset can run Touch Flo 3D just fine, then why can't we just take the drivers from those devices?
If someone has some experience with hacking drivers, I bet you can get those drivers working. I bet someone from Beyond3D could do it.
Some Screenshots Of Manila 2D:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
nommy76 said:
hi bj... thx for the threads...it work just nice on my kaiser...but still have problems with bat power n backlight....seems it auto manage them when bat almost out...
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Is This the standby program? if it is, the program doesnt like the backlight settings in. try turning them off. another way around this is to program one of the hardware keys to <none> then when the backlight turns off, push the button. it should turn the backlight back on.
it took me ages to find how to fix this problem. its painful but its worth it
Hope this Helps
Makes sense
here is a video of the new sense ui for htc touch 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhnhrdYP0I
Background to all pages
Background for all tabs
I havent tested this yet...but here is the download
BG all pages
thx but after installed it, it doesn't work its ok i'll satisfied with my TF3D v3 now...the stand_by also work very well so now my bat last longer...hope i could post all the cab files n some images of my Kaiser...
TF3D on htc tyTn 11 Kaiser+S2U2+S2P
i take no credit just wanna share...
more images...
a few more images...
and the files...
still i'll take no credit for all these...really wanna share it...
take note these cabs/files are use on my kaiser and i don't know if it runs on others...used at your own risk...pls read the instructions first...cheers..
the files...
1. TF3D-QVGA_v3
2. NFSFAN Opera 9.5
3. htc audio manager by Swtos
4. htc Diamond album
5. TouchResponce v02_2
6. htc CA_Kaiser_Drivers
7. TouchPower & tf3dStandBy
8. M3D Lanscape
9. YoutubeQVGA
10. MortScript
11. Uzeb QVGA tf3d font patch (makes ur font a bit clearer)
12. No Curtains and Transparent bottom bar
13. Pamas Transparent Slider
14. MobileMatt CrystalClockWhite
15. S2U2-2.04QVGA
16. S2P-0.73betaQVGA
17. S2V-0.42QVGA (actually not working on my Kaiser, my bad to include this)
18. tPRO for S2P QVGA (theme that goes with TF3D)
Download the zip files at RapidShare from here..
and attached is standby in mortscript. (just extract all the files to your storage card)
...added fire charging phase; extract batteryg.png copy/paste and overwrites the png files to s2us folder in device/programfiles/S2U2
Screenshots!
Mate! love the screenshots it looks great! thanks for the links some there i didnt have.
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doesn't work on my device..
One thing i know about Manilla... be it 2D or 3D... is that it's never the same instaling it, or having it cooked in a rom.
You'll never have the same stabillity... functionality even.
We could, of course, have a cook try and give us one very simple 6.1 rom with manilla3D cooked in.... it would be nice... just as a proof of concept.
Laurentius26...think that was is nick, once attempted it...
Now... that developments which i'm NOT aware now, like KaiserGL, VG and such...
stability...
i guess its how you choose the right files to flash and how you flash it because i did noticed different owner with same device, manilas and ROM but getting different results...
Hi.
Which Rom are using??
i'm using stock ROM 3.29
hi, i have the icedhoneybun rom . i still have issues with the slow texting response. i will text a wrod as "hello" and i will hit the "hel" and then the phone will begin to type the words. it is annoying and get confusing when i am trying to type because the phone will assume i am holding down a word to get the other input like the number 1 . will overclocking fix this problem ? does anyone know which ROM has the fewest problems? i do not use twitter or face book or finger prints or any social apps
thank you for any help you guys can give.
I just switched from dc2.8 to darch's newest ROM. So far not a single problem, except for accessing a wap site but I doubt that's the ROM's fault. What text program are you using? Also what keyboard? Swype beta is open to everyone now I think, look into that also.
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i have the stock htc verrrry lagggy keyboard
Hi I have the iced hunybun Rom and have the hero HTC stock keyboard. I have tried swype but I don't like it. It give misspellings a lot of the time.
Turn off vibration?
I prefer regaw mod... the best one out of all I have tried. Stable, everything works, and good on battery.
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darch droid is the best bet. FAST!!!
hi regawmod and darkdroid?
Hi what forums can I find the links for these. Roms? I have tried the blue eco. And still very slow in texting and web page input in the URL or this forum
Right now Ian using buffed with the overclocking and removed haptic response and vibration. And still a lagging keyboard. I don't like swype and yes swype lags as well
I have the AOSP Voice keyboard. It looks like the swipe keyboard with a voice input button. It has been the best keyboard I have used so far. This should be the link:
http://code.google.com/p/sensehero/...OSP-Keyboard-Voice_update_signed.zip&can=2&q=
oluvinu said:
Hi what forums can I find the links for these. Roms? I have tried the blue eco. And still very slow in texting and web page input in the URL or this forum
Right now Ian using buffed with the overclocking and removed haptic response and vibration. And still a lagging keyboard. I don't like swype and yes swype lags as well
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Try blue echo again. I just released a new build and will have one final update tonight. Just remember to change the keyboard out to the android keyboard and its extremely fast
The android keyboard is significantly faster than the HTC keyboard. If you're looking for less lag, ditch the HTC keyboard. Darchdroid types very well from my experience.