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Hi all! This is my first post here so, please be nice.
This is regards a t-mobile MDA It is a g3 version.
I was trying to reinstall the 2.26 ROM straight from the t-mobile website. It had gotten to about 90% when a connection error came up. It started the "recovery" process, so I did that perfectly, but then, the bootloader randomly restarts when I plug in the USB. Now, I have been doing a lot of reading on this forum. I have disabled wescomm during install, i have stopped all background programs.
I started again. I got to about 10% of the reinstall, when the bootloader restarted itself..again.
I'm sorta thinking it's the battery, but before i did this reinstall, i let the battery fully charge to 100%. So, i don't know how it could've drained so fast, if that is even the problem. The battery is in good condition. It has about a couple days of stand-by time.
Of course now, i'm stuck in bootloader mode that randomly restarts. Is there anyway of making it stop restarting?
How can I get my MDA back? It seems the programs I've found require activesync and my phone doesn't stay on long enough for any of them to work.
Thanks for all your help. I'm sorry if the answers I need were posted elsewhere, I did do a search, so maybe I have just been using the wrong terms...
I have uploaded a YouTube video if you want to see the restarting for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h0Sp37N-ZU
-Pam
EDITED: I have removed the SD card also.. still no luck. If the phone is bricked, please just tell it to me...just make it fast...
EDITED: THE PROBLEM IS FIXED!! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!
Hi,
This is a battery issue. Everytime you got errors like this, try to recharge it again and redo the flash procedure. I spent a whole day doing it once and it worked!
ok... So, even though the bootloader keeps restarting, it is charging the battery?
thanks!
-pam
Use your wall charger instead of the USB cable to be sure that it's charging.
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EDITED: THE PROBLEM IS FIXED!! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!
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Can we know how you did it? That could be a good help for others
Well, I did what everyone said I should. I did have to jump start the battery, plugging it in did nothing but drain what was left on the battery. So, I read on the forum that a 9V and some twist ties should do it and it did give it some juice to be charged. I had to hunt down the exact wall charger that came with the MDA, because my other wall chargers (for my other phones) didn't charge the phone. But, once I had that all set up, and it was charging because the bootloader screen stayed on the entire time it was charging. So, an hour later I tried the install again, it finally completed. Thank god!
Well, the reason why I wanted to reflash the ROM was because I was having a hard time inputting on the screen, I would tap one place and something a quarter-inch over would be selected. And also, whenever I turned on the wi-fi, the MDA would restart. I tried hard-resetting, and it wasn't helping.. But, now it has been reflashed, everything works great.. except the random, unexplainable restart. :|
Need help myself
I'm having a simular problem with my G3 device.
I wanted to get rid of NBD 8.0 because it constantly was rebooting or simply shutting down. I thought it was the software so downloaded a different ROM.
Before installing this new ROM I (as usual) downgraded before upgrading (installed regular T-mobile ROM). This however didn't go to well. At about 85% it got stuck and reported an error 302. I tried recharging and different ROM's but to no aveill.
I just got of the horn with T-Mobile and they're willing to send me a new battery (free of charge).
At the moment my Wizard is in the wallcharger, none of the 5 or 6 ROM's I've tried have worked, they all stall at one point or other and the bootloader then keeps flashing on and off.
I'm hoping the new battery will work, but I'm interested in that solution you used, what did you do? How did you jumpstart your battery?
Any advise is welcome (concerning this issue of course ) so HELP!?!?!
I have the battery jumpstart solution described here in the top post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321342&page=2. Hope it helps.
Did the battery solution, didn't work, I'm beginning to loose faith. I'm still waiting for the replacement battery from T-Mobile, hope that helps.
EDIT: I GOT MY NEW BATTERY, and everything works again!!!
The batt boost failed so I was without a phone for a while, got everything working again. Thanks for the assistance!
So I had my tilt for about a month, was happy flashing away ROMs every few days, when it got stuck constantly rebooting, not even making it to where you could see the RGD version numbers. Sometimes it MIGHT get all the way in, but would only last a minute or two before randomly going back into the boot loop.
Also, the only way to get it to boot at all was to plug it into the AC adapter. If I tried to turn it on w/o it being plugged in, it just sat there, black. Then as soon as you plugged it back in it would automatically go right back into the loop.
I figured I had busted it (because i tried EVERYTHING I could find on the forums), so I got it into bootloader mode (which always DID work fine), went back to stock, and did an RMA.
Got the new phone this morning, moved over the battery, cover, stylus, and booted up just fine...... Then after about 8 minutes, boom, back to the restart loop.
(yes i tried no SD/SIM card, same results).
so after plugging and unplugging the AC adapter about 20 times, i managed to get it to where the little orange light came on and it DIDNT try to enter the boot loop. I let it sit for about 2 hours, then successfully booted up. I clicked the battery icon and saw that it was at 0%. Let it sit for about 30 minuted, checked back, 1%.
So I let it sit for about 5 hours, and the battery read 100%. I unplugged it and headed off to my evening engineering class. (still no sim card tho because i wanted to eliminate that as a cause). And eventually, about 2 hours later, click... it tried to reboot once, then went black.
I called ATT and told them, and they will be sending out a new battery. Is it possible the battery has some mechanism busted where it reports to the phone what % charge it is, and wont boot otherwise?
Any ideas will be great, and I will come back and update this thread after I get the new battery.
Thanks!
no thoughts anyone?
hi
I had exactly the same problem...updated radio to 1.65.30.09 and then endless reboot loop. tried hard reset, downgraded radio version, installed another rom, nothing worked. Finally tried hard spl, and booted fine. im feeling very happy, i allready thought that i had ruined my htc polaris. hope it helps anyone. zorry my bad english, I'm from Estonia
Hello good people,
I've been searching the forums but i don't seem to be able to find a solution for my dead kaiser.
I'll explain the problem:
When i push the power button on my Kaiser, it start's booting the first part, displaying the "smart mobility" slogan by HTC, after a few seconds, some data appears in red, in the right lower corner of the screen, this is what is says:
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.56.00.00
After displaying this for a while (about 1 min.) it goes to the Windows Mobile Splash Screen.
After displaying this for a few seconds (5 to 10 secs) it makes the "empty battery" sound and shuts down.
Can someone help me ?
*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
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..snip*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
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Will it boot with the phone plugged in to power?
Bill
Yeah, try booting with the charger on. Chances are that your battery' life is out..
Reagdrs,
Carty..
I have had the same thing and wondered if it was the battery... except that sometimes it will stay on for about 2 minutes, sometimes half an hour... but most of the time as soon as it goes to the Today screen, I get the battery dead sound and then it turns off. I am going to try to use another battery to see if that makes a difference.
it's not the battery
I've tried with the power cord on the phone, it does 2 things:
1. The same thing as i said before
2. Doesn't boot at all, it halts on the screen where the red data shows up and stays there until you take the power cord off and the battery out.
It does one of these things, randomly.
I've also tried with another battery from my friends kaiser which works perfectly.
So i guess it's not the battery, anyone another idea what it could be?
Might be something wrong with the firmware or anything? problem is, i can't flash it if it doesn't boot can i ??
any ideas ?
Today i managed to get my hands on a brand new kaiser battery, my uncle has a brand new kaiser and i borrowed his battery.
His battery was full, i put it in my kaiser and tried booting, same problem as above.
I've tried with the power cord plugged into the phone, the charging led went on, and i tried booting, same as above.
Later i've tried with the USB cable connected to the phone and the computer, still the same.
I've also tried soft&hard resetting with the new battery, no succes.
So therefore, i believe it's not a battery or a power problem, it must be firmware corrupted or something of the hardware broke ?
Does anyone has any idea how i can try to re-flash this thing ? to find out if that might be the problem ?
It's not the battery. Could be a bad flash or something. Try to reflash it. Yes, it will reflash even though it won't "boot" as you say. Try to reflash and then report back. Remove the memory card for now.
Also, what Rom and SPL are you using?
Ur going to have to force it into the bootloader to flash it, no biggie. Just hold down the power and camera buttons, and hold the soft reset button with the stylus, untill you get the tri color boot screen. Then flash away! I would flash a stock rom until u can tell weather your problem is hardware related or not. If hardware related keep the stock rom and spl, and try to warrenty return it.
O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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Does it power off while beeing in bootloader? You doesnt have to start the device up to get into bootloader you know. Try checking if it shuts down while beeing in bootloader, if its not just reflash. Another thing, what spl and rom are you guys having this problem using?
It's alive!!!
Finally got it to bootloader mode before it dies and reflashed and it seems to be running just fine now. Using spl ver.1 with schaps 4.30 wm 6 (although users running the stock rom had the same experience). Got the "smart chip not provisioned mm 2" message most likely from at&t killing my sim card from a reorder as they did when I Returned the Iphone which is a rediculous policy(policing); having to constantly contact at&t to update to a new sim. Still, it makes me wonder what caused this defunct in the first place, and if it'll happen again tomorrow or the next day. Reflashing and reinstalling cabs is a Real *****, especially for a pda where people use their device for business and gather a collection of missed calls and lost connections when the Os decides to randomly crash. As much as I dig htc's devices, it's kinda strange how HTC, with such a huge marketshare with pda's, is so quiet about updates or firmware fixes. Anyways, long live the only source for htc fixes, XDA!!
Mine is still completely in the state in which i got it.
Just the stock HTC Firmware, rom's and loaders
Okay, a little update.
How the hell can i flash this thing if it keeps on bugging me with the "Wrong vender ID" message when i try to flash it ?
I know, install HardSPL ... but how can i ? without a possibility to connect ActiveSync?, you'll have to start the device for that and run activesync, but i can't because it won't even boot.
Is there any other way of getting this device to allow me to flash without needing to boot it up fully.
I have no problems getting in to the Tri-Color bootloader, but no further.
When updating it gets to 1%, then my PC gives the message: "Wrong vender ID, please use your own device's update utility" and the phone stays at 1% till i rip out the battery.
ok guys I have the same problem with two of my kaiser's
I can power them up but in aproximately 1 minut goes off, no matter if the charger is plugged or not, it doesn't make a difference
I can put the phone in tri-color screen and stays there with no problem
and I can flash them with no problem because they are olipro already
but after flash them with anything still the same problem ???
so if anybody has a clue or maybe a rom to fix this would be great
thanks
best regards
linterna
One more thing. I have the same problem but mine when starts flashes Blue LED when was good hasn't. I Started few times and it works for 2-3 weeks and again. Best to do is to not use camera. Every time it happends i ise my camera and battery was middle-low. I think its some problem with camera. Many times it don't want to start up or saids that there is no memory for saving photo. Maybe i should flash rom from wersion without cameras.
im having the same problem, has anyone solved this?
Yeah solve . HTC as a kids toy .
Buy Nokia! Or SonyEricsson.
I won't buy smartphone ever again.
Does not boot to the OS
I have the similar problem...... My kaiser is dead not even booting with battery only (not plugged to the PC or external charger).
However when I plugged it to the power source it boots up and continue to the OS and boom (shuts off) in split of second.
I tried different flash and it propelry boots and got windows up and running when plugged to the PC with the old ATT test ROM which I got from the xda threads.
But with the latest roms it wont boot to the windows , it dies before that.
Anyone having idea what could resolve this.
any update on this? i am having the same problem. i tried a hard reset already with no success it goes to the splash screen and says "the device is clearing the storage. please wait" then pings and turns off
r 1.65.21.18
g 25.88.40.05h
d 3.57.00.00
my phone is completely stock and has never been unlocked or messed with. found an updated at&t rom, i ran it and none of the numbers change in the bootup, then goes to the splash screen and says again "the device is clearinng the storage. please wait" and then pings and turns off.
also i have been searching for the oilpro or jockeyw hard spl files on google and on here but have found nothing, the search function doesnt seem to be able to find much.
any help would be appreciative, thanks in advance
Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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I've just started having the same problem as you. Very annoying. Mine phone is a year and a half old now, so i'm assuming the battery is coming to an end.
Charge battery, will last a while, but goes down to around 80-70% and then it says plug power in blah blah blah and dies. Then when you charge it, it stays on one or 2 bars for a bit and then jumps to 100% fully charged.
Saw a procedure to "reset" the battery. Supposedly have to take the battery out for a bit then plug in and charge fully over night with the phone OFF. None of this seemed to work for me... I'm due for an upgrade in January, so is it really worth paying for a new battery... hmmm
Hey all, thanks for taking your time to read and possibly help me out with my problem. Yesterday I've tried rooting my droid in order to put cyanogen mod on it later. The reason I was interested in doing that was because I felt as droid was not working to it full potential and constantly crashing apps on me (browser, games, weather, etc). A friend of mine suggested cyanogen as he himself owns it. Being that I've did plenty of CFW on PS2, psp, xbox and mp3s/ipods, I thought there shouldn't be a hassle with this.
I followed the procedures listed on cyanogen's wiki page in order to complete the rooting process. But on the step where it asked to instal .sbf file trough RSD lite and wait till it says "pass" I've ran into trouble.
During the unpacking of that file to the phone using RSD lite the phone was undergoing several reboots, and after finally finishing the reboots on my PC screen in the RSD Lite window it showed 100% complete "please reboot the phone manually". I had no idea how to do that manually as the phone just kept going on and off by itself. (also for some reason it kept saying "error" force close/wait/send notice. But I thought it was probably just the process. After trying to reboot the phone a couple of times nothing worked. I didn't receive any "pass" signs on the droid screen.
I've got a little worried about the whole process and decided to shut the phone off and during that close the RSD Lite on my computer. Doing that made no further improvements for me. The phone just kept going on and off like crazy while in USB and not turning on at all while not plugged into either USB or AC. I've decided to go to recovery mode and just reset everything to stock as I was running out of time and had to get some sleep before work next day. After reseting the cache/data files I rebooted the phone but the same things kept happening to it. Now it was asking me to reconnect with gmail account and all that intro stuff. But the phone would always end up locking up and shutting off somewhere in the process of reconnecting the account.
Fast forward to today I've read that its possible to complete reset everything to stock version trough .sbf file once again. But now the problem consists of the phone not having enough batter life. (I'm not sure what the screen is called where the process of dumping .sbf trough RSD lite starts) but that screen keeps saying battery is too low to do anything with it. And mind me it has been charge for a very long time now in the AC adapter.
Now it also appears as the problem has worsened. The phone does not start up at all in either USB or without connection. It only starts up in AC adapter but then it shuts off in 2 minutes and back on and off , on and off. Recovery mode can't be accessed in any way, at least any way known to me. The black .sbf screen can only be accessed while the phone is not connected to anything but still keeps saying the battery is too low. And I've noticed the phone getting extremely hot during AC charge. (another small detail that sometimes when the phone does turn on and goes to home screen opening up the landscape view does not increase the length of the top (pull down) bar in horizontal view.
I've tried taking out both battery and sdcard and putting them back but no luck. I'm really lost as to what I can do next in order to fix this problem.
If you need any further information please let me know and thank you again for trying to help me!
I don't really see how you managed to get a fc with rsdlite.
Did you reboot your phone (turn off) then boot into usb recovery (power on while holding up, for the droid)?
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I am by no means an expert and could be just wasting your time but in the absence of expert opinions something is better than nothing right? It sounds to me like maybe you have a bad battery that as luck would have it failed during the update/rewrite. Have you tried getting into recovery with the battery pulled running straight off the ac adapter? Hopefully you made a clockwork/nandroid backup before you started?
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I'm not an expert either, but having just successfully rooted my droid and installed cyanogen I feel the need to ask: did you hold up on the d-pad while RSD rebooted the phone the first time? If not then you needed to immediately restart the process.
I think you need to use a separate battery charger (meaning that charging battery without a phone) to charge the battery.
Sometimes, battery won't hold a charge when your phone is a brick.
BTW, it appears that you are having the same issue with mine.
(I can't post a URL because I am new here, but you can take a look at my article in this section, called "[S.O.S] A rare MILESTONE brick situation". )
I had the same problem (battery won't charge and phone won't start-up), I had to purchase a separate battery charger, and then flashed another SBF, to make the phone charging normal. (Although my phone is still a brick, but not a problem with battery. )
Hi guys..
I have had my Tilt now for about 2months and recently tried downloading a 200Meg file off the web with it. It drained the power even though the charger was plugged in and so I was clever enough to fool around with chargers...Bleh.. Anyway, so what had happened is that after me switching the phone off etc. I tried charging again without downloading and when I plug the charger in, NOTHING happens..the green light flashes like normal, no light changes and no blips or notifications come up or anything. If I switch the phone off and then plug the charger in, the red light appears and stays there (and I presume it charges). So now I can´t find a fix..Seen MANY other threads regarding similar problems but 90% result in getting a replacement from the supplier which is not possible for me since I don't work off contract and neither is the warranty still valid and neither do I live even NEAR a HTC dealer. I've tried soft resets, hard resets, restarting phone with charger and battery in, without battery in etcetc. The battery is fine.
So it seems my last resort would be opening up the phone and looking if by luck I can see or measure something. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated
Brian
I have same problem, My HTC only charge when power off, No active sync... but i could up rom because in bootloader 3.56 only show USB without serieal . Yesterday i uprom ship end restore SPL. Then my HTC Kaiser can't uprom. It only sirieal when conect USB.
I think it cause by software without hardware. So everyone help us...help me too
Yeah, mine doens't get recognised by my computer at all. Which means no backups or syncs somehow I think my friend's broken TYTN II is gonna come in handy...hmm....
And just for more info, I am as I'm speaking, charging my phone (with it being off) and the red light has been on around an hour long.. Gonna see if it goes off or changes.. Will report back once something happens
Brian
Edit: I just switched my phone on (after around 2 hours charging with it being shut down) even though the light was still red, battery is now 100%.. so.. I'm now downloading the next 200meg file and another 39 files to go
Update: Just something weird.. The tilt was charging(in its shut down mode) and then suddenly switched on by itself.............. uhm..yeah.. so once it came on, i looked and everything was still the same.. pulled out the charger, switched off, put charger back in(cause the battery was about 30%) and boom, green light and switches on again bleh.. so now I fiddled with the battery and charger, and got it to charge in its off state again with the red LED.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372266&highlight=rlod
I thiink, it can "fix in booting safe mode". But I can set it to safe mode
You can try it, follow step in the link, then re tell to me!
every oen, who can help us?!
hey, I took a look there and I tried those things but it didn't work. Apparently there is no "Safe mode" for these phones unless you have a third-party software. So just to confirm, I took a look through the user manual and found nothing, Googled "HTC TyTN II Safe Mode" and found random stuff but not much related besides third-party Apps. So then I just tried randomly fooling around with my TyTN II by holding and pressing random sets of keys while pressing the soft reset button. No luck.
Brian
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I find it, i think our KAISER have two problems: can't hardspl and RELoD. Nơ i try follow thí link, maybe SDA application unlock can fix them. But KAiSER can't active sync by USB connect. Now Ifind method activesync by bluetooth. and can find SDA application unlock by SD card. I think MR jockyw2001 have many expriences can help. can you help me?,mr jockyw2001 ?