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Sorry for posting this here, but I couldn't really find a suitable place since most of the Android action is right here.
These past weeks I've noticed an increase of irrelevant threads and clutter being made in regards to Android development in the HTC Dream forum and every other Android development forum on xda. A lot of Android devices out on the market now are not made by HTC. This of course is causing a problem since this forum is for HTC devices only.
Maybe it would be a good idea if a new forum was created that accounts for all native Android devices (Motorola Droid/Milestone, Motorola Cliq/Dext, Samsung Galaxy, etc...). That way, a lot of the clutter would surely be resolved and a considerate load would be taken off of this server (Gotta hate the horrible load on xda these days...).
I'm sure there are quiet a few people on here that have an HTC device and are fully satisfied with it (Me included!). That doesn't mean that everyone else has to feel the same way. People that choose to go with Samsung, Motorola, etc. for their next Android device should not be left out. That's why I believe there should definitely be a forum that serves everyone.
To put up a new forum specifically for this matter takes no time at all, but it does take participation. So if you feel like this is something you would like to see, please feel free to leave a comment.
What are you're opinions on this matter? Agree? Disagree?
Discuss.
EDIT: If there's enough people interested in this project, would there be anyone willing to help getting things started in terms of hosting space or something similar?
my thoughts are that the few changes that have been recently made should help if they are utilized. now we have a forum for general android development for devs, and the rom releases are in the device specific forums. Here was my idea, but i think they made the right choice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4795376&postcount=1
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my thoughts are that the few changes that have been recently made should help if they are utilized. now we have a forum for general android development for devs, and the rom releases are in the device specific forums. Here was my idea, but i think they made the right choice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4795376&postcount=1
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It's a start. But I don't think xda is going to put up more sub forums for each new device out there. Thus, development and ROM threads for Motorola and other devices will be left out. Unless I understood your post incorrectly
no, you're right, i just dont think xda WANTS to keep up with every brand that uses android. they apparently keep their focus on HTC devices. there are gonna be a FLOOD of manufacturers utilizing droid in the future, and unless xda wants to change their focus, they will stick with one brand
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no, you're right, i just dont think xda WANTS to keep up with every brand that uses android. they apparently keep their focus on HTC devices. there are gonna be a FLOOD of manufacturers utilizing droid in the future, and unless xda wants to change their focus, they will stick with one brand
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Yea that's exactly my point.
There WILL be a flood of Android devices from all kinds of manufacturers and it would be nice if there was a place for all of them come together. That way, everyone can keep track of specific development without having to switch between dozens of forums.
My $0.02.
good luck, my friend. Most likely it will take someone to else to start a new site to accomplish. funny, i was fooling around a couple days ago and did this. http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=176593179336&v=wall
not saying this is the solution, but you are not alone in your concerns.
I see that a few agree with me, care to share your point of view? Maybe it will spark this thing.
hey i was wondering how do i get like a really legit software on my g1 its brand new it has not been rooted or anything
you could try opening your eyes and looking around....
1. i do not think you know what the word legitimate means
2. This is in the wrong section.
3. The sentence made no sense.
just buy a nexus it is what I am going to do since all the devs are getting them and then are forgetting about us....KING, CYANOGEN lmao
When you say legit software, do you mean apps? That's the only thing I can think of as of now, but if that is what you're saying, you could always use the Market... if you don't have a data plan you can use your WiFi or http://www.cyrket.com/m/android/ for most of your Android app needs. Now, if you would bother to post in the Q&A section, you wouldn't be getting a smart ass comment... but that's just my two cents.
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just buy a nexus it is what I am going to do since all the devs are getting them and then are forgetting about us....KING, CYANOGEN lmao
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they havent forgot about us, king is tweeting about a new hero rom for us right now.
I know I am just giving him **** on his twitter.
This forum is for discussion about "G1 Android Development". Everything in this thread as of right now is irrelevant.
To begin with...
Here's a good beginner's guide to rooting your G1: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Opera...-need-to-modify-your-Android-phone/m-p/173419
Regards
hi,
can i install sype on the htc desire hd and is there a a option with the portugues keyboard...
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We already have a thread on this topic.
And to answer your question - mainly to answer ALL questions about customization: IT'S ANDROID, FOR GOD SAKE!
You can do with it, what ever you like.
swype on HTC Desire HD
I've never had an HTC phone and android is a mystery to me. Up to now I've had Nokia and a Samsung omnia (used it only a few days and went back to my old nokia). It's time to get a new phone and - having big hands (and fingers too) - I'm thinking about the Desire HD. The critics are very good.
What I don't understand is the following... as far as I know, the Desire HD will not be available before somewhere in october. Yet you claim that swype is available for - and compatible with - the Desire Hd. I'll take your word for it, but why didn't HTC put it directly on the HD???
You say "It's and android for God's sake". What do you mean by that? Will all apps work on the HD just because it's an android?
I'm sorry if my questions look stupid to you, but like I sais, android is a mystery to me (although I am eager to find out more, even though I am 59 years old).
Thanks for your answer. Cheers!
Jan
little mistake
the following must read:
You say "It's android for God's sake".
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the following must read:
You say "It's android for God's sake".
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A Superbly warm welcome to the android crowd. Oh... you know - to describe the android platform I need to say - If you are willing to spend some time with it, than you can make it to whatever you want it to be, to look, to feel. Just use your imagination and this fantastic forum. When the phone comes out, trust me, there is going to be so much hype and work to make this phone perfection.
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It won't come out of the box with swype, cuz, how we all know - SWYPE - is an Samsung product.
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But think about this, this way. If the XDA genies managed to port the yet not released HTC Desire HD ROM to the HD2, Droid Incredible. Trust me, to port the swype function to the Desire HD is going to be a ordinary everyday task to preform for our SuperB developers.
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Isn't that right?
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+1 to me.
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I've never had an HTC phone and android is a mystery to me. Up to now I've had Nokia and a Samsung omnia (used it only a few days and went back to my old nokia). It's time to get a new phone and - having big hands (and fingers too) - I'm thinking about the Desire HD. The critics are very good.
What I don't understand is the following... as far as I know, the Desire HD will not be available before somewhere in october. Yet you claim that swype is available for - and compatible with - the Desire Hd. I'll take your word for it, but why didn't HTC put it directly on the HD???
You say "It's and android for God's sake". What do you mean by that? Will all apps work on the HD just because it's an android?
I'm sorry if my questions look stupid to you, but like I sais, android is a mystery to me (although I am eager to find out more, even though I am 59 years old).
Thanks for your answer. Cheers!
Jan
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Good to hear that your keeping up with the advance in technology!
The reason (as far as I know) that Swype is not installed on HTC phones is that it belongs to Samsung and they don't want it to be installed on other phones.
Off course it's very easy to obtain this program via the usual but no so legal ways and to install it on the phone. I installed it on my girlfriends Desire.
So it is possible, but please don't discuss this on XDA because Samsung does not like this!
Thank you very much for your answer
Jan
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Thank you very much for your answer
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You're always welcome.
Swype is owned by Samsung? Do please link me a source for that, cause I totally missed that out.
Seeing that several Motorola devices are able to get Swype, heck even Droid X and Droid 2 comes with it preinstalled.
In fact, myTouch 3G even got it.
All of those dosen't seem like Samsung phones too me.
In fact, aint it the creator of T9 that is behind Swype?
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Swype is owned by Samsung? Do please link me a source for that, cause I totally missed that out.
Seeing that several Motorola devices are able to get Swype, heck even Droid X and Droid 2 comes with it preinstalled.
In fact, myTouch 3G even got it.
All of those dosen't seem like Samsung phones too me.
In fact, aint it the creator of T9 that is behind Swype?
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Swype is a commercial product, that is sold to different partners (like Samsung)
so that they can include it in their phones. There may be other company's that have the right to sell phones with swype on it. These companys spent money on swype hoping that potential buyers will see it as a "plus" and buy their phones. So Samsung may not be the owner of the company or the have the exlusive rights to use swype, they have bought the right to sell their phones with swype included. I know that Samsung has complained a lot about posts regarding the "illegal" use of swype. This may have something to do with their current marketing campaign of the Galaxy S.
Its very much possible to install Swype on any Android phone, but company's that have paid money for this don't want to many people to know about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swype#Availability
So no, Swype is definitely not owned by Samsung. They've just payed to have it included in the SGS software.
Desire HD
Thank you all for your answers.
I am a bit puzzled... I read (and hear) so many wonderful things about the Desire HD (and also about the Nokia N8) and yet they are not available at the moment. A few months ago, there was the same hype about the Samsung i9000. You should read the critics now.... it's not bad, but it's certainly not was the "experts" said it would be (before it was released).
I am still very interested in the Desire HD, but I am eager to read the reactions of people once it's been on the market for a few weeks.
Warning about Swype
Dnn't anyone getting themselves or the site in trouble; http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xda-notice-swype/
Gordon
Thread closed. As far as I know this question a) has been asked and answered and b) should be asked on the "ask questions about DHD"? thread.
Cheers,
I would donate 200 bucks or more if somebody makes an android rom for HTC HD7 and i bet a lot of others would donate also.
This phone is even better than hd2 why doesn't nobody want to start making an android rom for it, it shouldn't be that hard i guess.
But is the HD7 any better than a desire HD which already runs Android. I prefer the case design that's for sure - the hd7 is a pain to keep clean and the sharp edges are prone to chipping
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But is the HD7 any better than a desire HD which already runs Android. I prefer the case design that's for sure - the hd7 is a pain to keep clean and the sharp edges are prone to chipping
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why do most members here post useless replies.
i am not comparing phones here please don't derail threads.
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why do most members here post useless replies.
i am not comparing phones here please don't derail threads.
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Because most people bought the phone with intentions of using Windows Phone 7? You don't buy an iPhone to use Android do you? He is simply bringing up a valid point, the desire HD is better than the HD7 if you want Android.
Second, Windows Phone 7 is nowhere near as hackable or open as Windows Mobile on the HD2. It obviously is not that simple. Even on the HD2, it look a good half year before the early releases of Android on SD were even released.
Dacook2, all one has to do is look at your 6 posts on xda to find out who submits useless comments. First you want cab files now Android. You clearly never bothered to use the search feature, where these things have been addressed many times over.
Pro tip: do some research before you a) buy a phone and b) post troll crap on a developer forum. take your 200 dollars and buy a clue.
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Why don't you just take those $200 and go register a new contract with your carrier for a new phone ?
Register with T-Mobile 2-years contract for an HD7, paid nearly $200 and then now begging someone else to make an Android for a Windows Phone.
If i don't mind, please allow me to ask you straight : "Are you $tupid?"
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I would donate 200 bucks or more if somebody makes an android rom for HTC HD7 and i bet a lot of others would donate also.
This phone is even better than hd2 why doesn't nobody want to start making an android rom for it, it shouldn't be that hard i guess.
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you are the first one who put the money where there mouth is....
hope $200/- is very big money... in indonasia at least...
Where's the mods in this section? Lock these stupid useless threads, three Android threads, one is getting filled with rants by some Sandra user, the other one you have idiots demanding you tell them how to brick their phone with clone hd7 rom, and now this? Thread needs to be locked, its useless and stupid. There are people on this board that do want to see real info on the status, not retarded threads that lead to nothing
wow you guys are really rude what kind of a community is this ?
you gang up on some new member and flame him as much as you can.
this is my topic it doesn't have to do with any other phone i made this topic only to say i would donate for this development to make somebody be interested in making it if it's money he is asking.
Why do you come and read this kind of topic if you have no interest in.
You are just here to flame new members showing off how many posts you have.
In the rules there is nothing that states about that i am not allowed to ask questions about HD7 phones and yes i have used the search button i couldn't find what i was looking for that is why i made these 2 threads.
If you don't like me that is another story pm your msn and let's talk it through but don't derail my topics saying my posts are useless of course they are useless to you because its my questions.
If somebody from you doesn't have something wise to say please GTFO of my topics.
I think the moral of the story is not to start new threads that have already been covered dozens of times.
You stated you searched for Android development but couldn't find anything, yet you posted on the "HD7 and Android" thread before starting this one? Also, when you created this topic, you must have seen where it lists topics of a similar nature?
It leads back to my question on your other thread to do with .cab files, did you not look into the phone/OS when you bought the device?
The key thing to remember is that this is a Developer forum.
Threads such as this are basically redundant. Asking questions or asking for help is fine, but requesting developers waste their time on porting over an OS that is readily available on a number of handset that look and act almost identical to the HD7 is holding back the development of this OS, which understandably annoys the Majority of us in the HD7 section.
Lets not just jump over board kids.
Donate someone to make android is quite silly. Again no one will believe such thing and 200 wouldnt be happy enough. You would donate more then 1,000 to someone but that again would be quite stupidty.. However i can understand your frustration as much as i am.
Windows phone 7 marketplace use useless wonders.. theres nothing i enjoy there for apps. I do more apps on the phone then making calls.
So lets fingers cross for android for HTC HD7 should we ? we are all together into this.
cheers
sandra
I have 39 post so you saying I'm trying to show off my count or bring rude is ridiculous.
I see a lot of good points in this thread. I personally would like to see HD7 get Android, even though there are better phones for running Android OS alone. However, I like to peak and tweak what I have, so I would enjoy having a phone running an os that isnt supposed to have it, with the option of going back (since I cant make up my mind, nor leave a perfectly good working phone alone for 10 seconds). I am currently running an HD2 with Typhoons Cyanogenmod, and I love being able to do anything I want to my phone whenever I want. I can't wait to get ahold of the HD7. I appreciate all the devs and all their hard work. I have gone through 5 different tmobile android phones in the last 6 months, and XDA has been THE site for me. I am currently trying to learn a bit about how the android os works (hardware handling, coding, etc), so I can add to the already awesome pool of devs that are here. XDA is the best, and I appreciate all the efforts.
I think we all need to remember what our mothers use to tell us "If you don't have something nice (or helpful) to say why don't you just shut yer' cakehole"
dacook2 is just trying to get something going on a great phone that won't let you do crap with it.
I think we should be asking Microsoft how the hell can they release a product that needs so much work......Hell i can't even go forward one song on my media player without unlocking my damn phone.
Have Patience my Padawan learner.
-and yes this is my first post, SO WHAT!!--
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I think we all need to remember what our mothers use to tell us "If you don't have something nice (or helpful) to say why don't you just shut yer' cakehole"
dacook2 is just trying to get something going on a great phone that won't let you do crap with it.
I think we should be asking Microsoft how the hell can they release a product that needs so much work......Hell i can't even go forward one song on my media player without unlocking my damn phone.
Have Patience my Padawan learner.
-and yes this is my first post, SO WHAT!!--
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You did press power button and then any of volume buttons to bring zune menu down? Even on locked screen.
twinkiehawk said:
I think we all need to remember what our mothers use to tell us "If you don't have something nice (or helpful) to say why don't you just shut yer' cakehole"
dacook2 is just trying to get something going on a great phone that won't let you do crap with it.
I think we should be asking Microsoft how the hell can they release a product that needs so much work......Hell i can't even go forward one song on my media player without unlocking my damn phone.
Have Patience my Padawan learner.
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oh my GOD i feel so happy now finally some decent individual who agrees with me.
This is the first time somebody said such a nice thing to me in my life on here Thank you so much.
Hope you have a great weekend my friend i owe you one.
Thank God i think there is a future for this community after all if members like this one interact here.
I am so happy i could **** rainbows.
Remember kids. If wp7 doesnt get android for HD7 the only smart thinking is toi buy a tablet. with android built in. Never a tablet with wp7 obviously.
Tablets are now more and more available and relaly just the cost of a small price for a 10.1 sizes screen.
So we can get the tablet not an (ipad2) because are all not into apples. But a nice tablet 10.1 for android. And the phone HTC HD7 will just stay as it is with wp7 so there for u have android on the tablet and wp7 on the other device. And take the tablet around with you everywhere you go. After all a phone that that small screen is still really a small screen to beging with.
10.1 screen tablet will make you happyness.
You r going hard on him i think that his offer is good.sometimes we look for the change just because it's a change
it's not a matter of which is better wm7 or android but it's interseting to be able to use more operating systems on the same phone
Ha we're rude!! I point out to you that you're barking up the wrong tree trying to get Android running on the wp7 version of an Android phone and you start taking offence. You're just whinging because you bought the wrong phone
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Ha we're rude!! I point out to you that you're barking up the wrong tree trying to get Android running on the wp7 version of an Android phone and you start taking offence. You're just whinging because you bought the wrong phone
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Excatly. I loved my HD2 and kept it for as long as I could before getting HD7. The only reason I run android on it is to see if I like it more then WP7.
All in all Android was good but interface speed was frustrating, so I tested Desires S in a shop and it worked the same way. Only now that I tested Motorola Atrix I would go with Android phone as it is easilly fast enough to run Honeycomb android on it. Normal Android is very fast on it.
You did not see what WP7 is about, what it can and can not do, what are the apps just went bought a fashion accessory like many iphone users do/did.
So not trying to be rude here, but where are the custom roms? I had the original Moto X and it had a few nice custom roms. I` am rooted with a unlocked bootloader but so far have stayed on stock. Is this going to be a bust as far as custom roms for this device......any thoughts would be appreciated!!
Another one of these threads? If you are so big on flashing ROMs, why didn't you research before you bought the X?
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Yes it's a bust if you like to flash roms this is not the device to have I personally buy Motos for the stock experience and battery life if I'm looking to flash Nexus or any # of devices for that moving away from Nexus too big too pricey currently
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Yes it's a bust if you like to flash roms this is not the device to have I personally buy Motos for the stock experience and battery life if I'm looking to flash Nexus or any # of devices for that moving away from Nexus too big too pricey currently
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I agree that stock on here is pretty good, on my Moto x 2013 I used a stock rom that was optimized and it was excellent. I think the sales must be poor of this unit and it is one reason that we do not have custom roms. For flashing I will use my M8...
Another one of these threads? If you are so big on flashing ROMs, why didn't you research before you bought the X?
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I said I did not mean to be rude...and what do you do, start off with a rude comment...shesh... the thread is in the Q&A section....maybe I want to know what other people think...but obviously not you.
Could be my thinking is that Motorola was locked in with Verizon so long that the development was limited more Gsm phones should help them in the future I bought a droid Razr Hd from Canada Rogers and it worked great would love to get a Turbo gsm HTC has good development and great Devs I owned several of these devices just prefer stock android over sense,touchwiz etc I don't like paying that much for my devices though -- good luck Have a great day
More to the point, there are already several other threads worded exactly like yours already here. The answer, or discussion, you seek already exist on this forum.
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I agree that stock on here is pretty good, on my Moto x 2013 I used a stock rom that was optimized and it was excellent. I think the sales must be poor of this unit and it is one reason that we do not have custom roms. For flashing I will use my M8...
I said I did not mean to be rude...and what do you do, start off with a rude comment...shesh... the thread is in the Q&A section....maybe I want to know what other people think...but obviously not you.
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My comment really wasn't that rude. There are multiple existing threads on this topic that you could have posted in instead of starting a new one. Threads that are worded near identical to yours, so there is no doubt that had you even made the slightest attempt to search first, you would have found at least one of them. And just like all the other people complaining about no custom ROMs, you should have researched before making your purchase. XDA isn't a venue for you to complain about something that you should have known before you bought the phone, it's here so people can find help with modding their phones. You've been a member since 2010, you should know better. I guarantee this thread will be closed.
Look, found this on page 2. You literally didn't even try to search first- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
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So not trying to be rude here, but where are the custom roms? I had the original Moto X and it had a few nice custom roms. I` am rooted with a unlocked bootloader but so far have stayed on stock. Is this going to be a bust as far as custom roms for this device......any thoughts would be appreciated!!
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my friend I agree,and I have the same think,about the custom roms,kernel,i wish to be soon,the phone need roms,kernels,every phone need, I will wait a bit,maby a month,and then I will sale it.
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My comment really wasn't that rude. There are multiple existing threads on this topic that you could have posted in instead of starting a new one. Threads that are worded near identical to yours, so there is no doubt that had you even made the slightest attempt to search first, you would have found at least one of them. And just like all the other people complaining about no custom ROMs, you should have researched before making your purchase. XDA isn't a venue for you to complain about something that you should have known before you bought the phone, it's here so people can find help with modding their phones. You've been a member since 2010, you should know better. I guarantee this thread will be closed.
Look, found this on page 2. You literally didn't even try to search first- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
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The debate should be why..that is what I am asking, I think it is the lack of sales, simple as that. Maybe I should have changed the tittle to make you feel better. I bought it cause it is a good phone, a optimized rom would be nice. Why are your panties and others in such a knot about this. At least it could be good reading cause nothing else is happening here about this device!! Harsh but true...close it, I could care less.
Great phone but very small sales = almost no developer community....but thanks to those that have given us root and a custom recovery it might be needed in the future...I hope!!!!
As stated above, there is already a thread on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
Please search before posting.
Thread closed.