Hero Theme w/ Flash? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to continue having use of my bluetooth, so I was wondering, is there a Hero Theme with working flash for browser? Or, is there a custom browser I can d/l with working flash?

Try king klicks hero rom 1.2r2 its fast as f* and has flash, and more optimization than you can shake an iphone at lol

flash 10 is supposed to come to android this month (supposedly)
at the moment, there is no theme (not made for a hero rom) that has flash.

vamopyros_wrath said:
Try king klicks hero rom 1.2r2 its fast as f* and has flash, and more optimization than you can shake an iphone at lol
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The goal is to keep my bluetooth working. Does this "ROM" have working bluetooth?

vamopyros_wrath said:
Try king klicks hero rom 1.2r2 its fast as f* and has flash, and more optimization than you can shake an iphone at lol
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i hate when noobs say this rom is fast, best, optimized, blahblahblah. it produces false info. hero2 1.5.1 is the fasest hero rom with NO bugs.
SG_Shadow said:
The goal is to keep my bluetooth working. Does this "ROM" have working bluetooth?
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no hero rom has workig bluetooth. and pushing the hero browser to a cyanogen or cupcake rom wont work.

brian_v3ntura said:
i hate when noobs say this rom is fast, best, optimized, blahblahblah. it produces false info. hero2 1.5.1 is the fasest hero rom with NO bugs.
no hero rom has workig bluetooth. and pushing the hero browser to a cyanogen or cupcake rom wont work.
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kings rom IS the MOST stable, fastest, flash and multitouch enabled rom, i have had absolutely no issues with it, and there are five themes for it too, so plus side there. as far as i know, bluetooth does not work but i dont need it, so just dont know lol, but i was under the impression also that no hero has working bluetooth as brian stated above.
(btw, imo if i am a n00b (must have 0's or its not l33t, lawz) then you are the king of france! ) so ya, i am not a noob, but neither am i a pumped up senior member that thinks everyone else is just a noob, ill give everyone a chance the only people to hate are idiots, and noobs generally arent they are mostly just ignorant.
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vamopyros_wrath said:
kings rom IS the MOST stable, fastest, flash and multitouch enabled rom, i have had absolutely no issues with it, and there are five themes for it too, so plus side there. as far as i know, bluetooth does not work but i dont need it, so just dont know lol, but i was under the impression also that no hero has working bluetooth as brian stated above.
(btw, imo if i am a n00b (must have 0's or its not l33t, lawz) then you are the king of france! ) so ya, i am not a noob, but neither am i a pumped up senior member that thinks everyone else is just a noob, ill give everyone a chance the only people to hate are idiots, and noobs generally arent they are mostly just ignorant.
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"kings rom IS the MOST stable, fastest, flash and multitouch enabled rom, i have had absolutely no issues with it,"
see that is noob. just becuz YOU like kingklicks rom doesnt mean its the fastest and most stable hero. i.e.:
people search still FC
audio recording may not work
BFS may seem good at first but youll soon realize that rosie will lag.
etc
it clearly isnt the most stable rom.
and who cares if it has 5 themes. so. themes can be made easily, just need to know what you want to edit. simple as editing and replacing.
hero2 1.5.1 doesnt contain these problems. so i am pretty sure i can say ,for a fact,that hero2 1.5.1 its the fastest rom with the most stability.
and then second to that is MLIGN rom. based off 1.5.1
still has no audio in recording,but easily fixed with pushing the 3 audio files in the "etc" folder from 1.5.1
and people search FC
who said i think every junior member is a noob? u just proved you are by stating that kingklick is the fastest and most stable hero rom. which is NOT true. so i think after my "rant" you would shut up with this blasphemy.

brian_v3ntura said:
i hate when noobs say this rom is fast, best, optimized, blahblahblah. it produces false info. hero2 1.5.1 is the fasest hero rom with NO bugs.
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brian_v3ntura said:
hero2 1.5.1 doesnt contain these problems. so i am pretty sure i can say ,for a fact,that hero2 1.5.1 its the fastest rom with the most stability.
and then second to that is MLIGN rom. based off 1.5.1
still has no audio in recording,but easily fixed with pushing the 3 audio files in the "etc" folder from 1.5.1
and people search FC
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ne1 c irony in those posts?

B-man007 said:
ne1 c irony in those posts?
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wheres the irony. kings rom has BFS which lags the rosie and overtime kill it eventually.
mlign doesnt use BFS neither does hero2 1.5.1 which btw 1.5.1 has no bugs.
the stability is not there in kings compared to mlign and 1.5.1

Related

Confused on which rom to follow.

Now that the whole Cyanogen deal happened I've been having a hard time finding the perfect donut release to follow. Any suggestions? Also what would you guys say to be the most stable Hero to be used day to day at this current time?
This is in the wrong section, but I use KingxKxKlick 1.9
Wrong section....
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
That said, CyanMod is still an excellent, stable, fast Donut build. If you're looking to try Hero, I have used about a dozen, and Kingklick's is easily the best, and since about 1.7 has been completely stable--no swap partition or cpu overclocking needed, and it's still so fast it's just disgusting.
Cyanogen is still actively developing his ROM. I would suggest following him on twitter.. @cyanogen
I would suggest that you just keep using Cyanogen. If you have too much trouble installing, just install this version. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569825
In theory, once installed, you can just install Cyan's official updates when he releases them.
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5. These 3 ROM will need different and most likely customized user.conf settings. For Hero3G I found 196 swap w/100 swappiness and CC OFF works best. For Evil Hero you also need 196 swap partition.
kolyan said:
With Hero ROMs, I found that in EVERY Hero release people claim its THE best Hero ROM available, so you gonna have to do some flashing to find out for yourself.
Now I use Hero3G UNI, others swear by Evil Hero 3.0 and MLIGN-HeroV2.5.5
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There are some that are good, but some are the best. It all depends on how it runs on your device and how you config the user.conf.
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
Cyan is my recommendation, and cyan is hinting at a very very soon update.
If you want to play with a new toy, try Motoblur, just be aware it lacks wifi.
it all depends on you. right now we have 3 working roms not including the pulse rom.
original android by cyanogen, [everything works]
hero by about 8 people (htcs own google ui), [bluetooth doesnt work, also im noticing flash doesnt either.]
blur [stable but slow, but good for social networks, no wifi]
just download the 3 different roms and test em out, dont just test one hero rom tho test em all and find what you like. but please do post in the q&a.
Wii60 said:
Just remember, even with Donut, Hero ROMs have a lot of bells and whistles, but still lack core function like BT or Google Voice Support.
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Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
carnegie0107 said:
Google Voice works fine for me on KingKlick's 1.9...
Also, some other Hero threads claim to have bluetooth working, but I have tried them and keep going back to KingKlick because they are all too slow.
I also wouldn't recommend MotoBLUR yet, unless you are very experienced and want to help the devs. It's still waaay experimental, way more than just wifi doesn't work.
But all the Hero/Blur/experimental stuff aside, if you just want a good, stable, feature-rich, fast ROM, stick with Cyanogen. Hate to be so blunt, but he is simply the best.
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Oh Nice! You can use it with the normal dialer? Not through contacts?
i've been using enomther's donut rom. seems to be working very nicely. haven't used cyan's 'newest' rom because he kept saying 4.2 was around the corner and I kept waiting. Last week also said he had some updates for the .999 build and was going to add another 9, but never released it. Also enom's rom has a hero theme addon for his latest release. Whereas nabzilla is also waiting on cyan's 4.2 to release an updated theme for that.
carnegie0107 said:
Yes, this definitely in the wrong section, check out Q&A instead. Soon a mod will fix this, but keep it up, and you'll be temp banned.
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Dude why u being an ass u r not a moder to treat some1 with perm ban, I think they can deal with this with out.
But yea Cyans roms r good but its been running kinda slow for me so I started flashing
hero roms I tried a few and so far Mlign's worked the best for me. its something u have to find out for urself

The best rom, up to date?

Sorry for such a general question but, what's the best, fastest and most stable rom up to date? Something that runs on the Hero layout would be nice =). I am currently running MoDaCo's Hero rom(5.3) which is quite fast, but seems a bit outdated now. I've tried other roms like Eclair 2.2 and KingKlair's 1.0 rom(which was incredibly slow and had FCs D. If anyone could give me suggestions(don't say search bar, as that thing hates me) to what roms are good it'd be great . Sorry if I'm asking too much here, but some eyecandy would be good too =D.
protomanez said:
Sorry for such a general question but, what's the best, fastest and most stable rom up to date? Something that runs on the Hero layout would be nice =). I am currently running MoDaCo's Hero rom(5.3) which is quite fast, but seems a bit outdated now. I've tried other roms like Eclair 2.2 and KingKlair's 1.0 rom(which was incredibly slow and had FCs D. If anyone could give me suggestions(don't say search bar, as that thing hates me) to what roms are good it'd be great .
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Herver's EclairOG
Do you know if video on that rom lags ._.' as some Ecalir roms I've tried had laggy video whenever I tried to view something.
all eclair drivers will have problems playing video since there are no video drivers that have been released for the G1/MT3G...
That news is quite depressing :'(. Guess I'll just stick with Modaco's until a fix arrives.
best rom
protomanez said:
That news is quite depressing :'(. Guess I'll just stick with Modaco's until a fix arrives.
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in my opinion super D 1.6 or 1.6.6 < waiting for 1.7 should be out any time. are the BEST roms. fast, no problems so far. and runs market and all the good stuff...
idk if it's what your looking for since it's not much for eye candy, but it's an efficiant rom.
hope i helped
super D 1.6 is amazing. I loved it, and still have it on my switchrom for when I need a fast phone. Other than that I use MLIGN 3.2B hero. Maybe wait it out a few months until switching to espresso. Happy flashing
honestly, the best advice i can give you is to just try out different roms. each rom runs differently on every different device. xROM Eclair by JAC runs beautifully for me. absolutely amazing, but for someone else, it may be awful. it's all about how it does on your device, so just try out different ones and pick the one that suits you best.
I would recommend CSDIv1...its super fast and stable. But if you do like Sense UI, I use MLIGN Hero 3.1B...but as grandomegabosses recomended, I suggest you to try each rom and decide by yourself, because not everybody have the same setup, ie. Swap, Ext, Swapiness, Clock...and that may cause differencies of speed on one phone and another
Best ROM up to date
King's AOSP 2.1 [v1.2] hands down!
The fastest and most stable Eclair rom yet. It has tons of eye candy and lightning fast for an eclair rom.
Flash it now!
BoomBoomPOW said:
King's AOSP 2.1 [v1.2] hands down!
The fastest and most stable Eclair rom yet. It has tons of eye candy and lightning fast for an eclair rom.
Flash it now!
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Hey, its that a custom lockscreen you are using on the fourth screenshot?
djluis48 said:
Hey, its that a custom lockscreen you are using on the fourth screenshot?
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No, it's not a lockscreen at all. It's the Clock app for Eclair that comes with the rom.
BoomBoomPOW said:
No, it's not a lockscreen at all. It's the Clock app for Eclair that comes with the rom.
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Oh, nice....i have never opened that app lol
Thanks for all the help, ended up going with Super D's rom and I must say this rom is hella fast =)
Best rom to date is the stock rom on Nexus

Which is your favorite and why?

I'm stuck between KiNgxKxlicK AOSP 2.1 v1.6.1 vs CM v4.2.14.1
What would you choose/using and why??
CM because it has all the drivers atm. I love eclair, but I want everything to work. Once those are out, Cyanogen will make an eclair also, so I will probably flash that over once it comes around.
Elloco305 said:
I'm stuck between KiNgxKxlicK AOSP 2.1 v1.6.1 vs CM v4.2.14.1
What would you choose/using and why??
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that's like comparing apples to oranges. you can't really compare them because they're completely different beasts.
Using latest dwang's because it works flawlessly
xabierd said:
Using latest dwang's because it works flawlessly
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that wasn't one of the choices!
I'll End it right here.
If you want a 2.1 ROM= OpenEclair
If you want Donut=Dunkin Donuts
...If you want a 1.6 ROM=Super D
if i were to recommend a 2.1 rom, i would suggest Cloverdale's Blue_Haze OE v1.1. yes, it's not on xda, but do some research and you will be rewarded.
I like Super D 1.9.2 because of the speed but then it has the downfall of the 10mb hack during games like ShootU! Which I loved, had to refund it
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if i were to recommend a 2.1 rom, i would suggest Cloverdale's Blue_Haze OE v1.1. yes, it's not on xda, but do some research and you will be rewarded.
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I did research all i found was his theme. Besides how much better can his be compared to others? Honestly coming from a Kinglick AOSP 2.1 ROM i love it and its by far the best compared to other 2.1 roms i've tested. As far as speed and stability goes, Anyways.
And I've been seeing alot of Super D flying around, But how fast are his ROMS? Like 'Super tap an app and open fully' fast or 'Tap an app and wait 2-3 seconds for it to fully show'?
And by the way, @xabierd Any ROM is ACCEPTED! Just wanna know what people are using and WHY? I mean, because it has video working. It's lighting fast. It's stable. It has a certain feel you like, WHATEVER!
DROP IN YOUR 2!!

[Q] I need a fast, stable ROM, can I have suggestions?

I've grown to hate my G1 over the last few days (got an iPad [don't be hatin'] a few days ago and my dad got a G2 today) because it's so incredibly slow. But, due to the iPad I now only use it for calls, texts and tethering.
Can anyone suggest me a fast, stable ROM to hold me over 'till I get the G2? Donut or later is preferred.
pauldacheez said:
I've grown to hate my G1 over the last few days (got an iPad [don't be hatin'] a few days ago and my dad got a G2 today) because it's so incredibly slow. But, due to the iPad I now only use it for calls, texts and tethering.
Can anyone suggest me a fast, stable ROM to hold me over 'till I get the G2? Donut or later is preferred.
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recommendations by my experiece:
donut : htc clay superfast 1.3.3
eclair : xillius200 hero 2.1 beta3 although you need another launcher (like l.pro or adw)
froyo : gammafly v1 or 2 dont know it anymore
anyway pls post it in q&a next time or general discussion =)
Flashing Superfast right now. I miss Donut.
pauldacheez said:
Flashing Superfast right now. I miss Donut.
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pretty fast pretty stable pretty good battery
only things i miss:
titanium backup support
new(est) apps/games
Checkout Super D and E. Also Chromatic 3.9 is pretty cool.
Sent from my Chromatic Dream using XDA App
The ones that I've enjoyed the most are Dwang's donut rom (not SuperD)
NonSense Cupcake
Super E for Eclair
Didn't like any froyo roms, they couldn't keep dialer in memory
But if all you're looking for is speed and stability, then here's the rom I'd recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567023
Dwang's 1.6 Rom
nickeedoo said:
The ones that I've enjoyed the most are Dwang's donut rom (not SuperD)
NonSense Cupcake
Super E for Eclair
Didn't like any froyo roms, they couldn't keep dialer in memory
But if all you're looking for is speed and stability, then here's the rom I'd recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567023
Dwang's 1.6 Rom
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did you try gammafly?
contacts seem always to open in less than 1 second
sparksco's did suck my battery empty in 4 hours
biffmod is okay
superf never tried
all the other froyo roms worse than biff'S
I'd say Dwang 1.17.1 donut also
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HTCClay's 1.3 D/s (froyo)
CM 4.2.15 (donut) + Hero Mod
Eeerm...
TheOfficiall by enomther
OR
Simply, stock Android 1.6. I always get back to this, this is my home ROM, my favourite. I just jump to other from it, but always come back. Speed, stability and great battery life (2 days isn't a problem).
i would say cyanogen 6 is fast, stable and excellent on battery life
Super froyo
raven_raven said:
Simply, stock Android 1.6. I always get back to this, this is my home ROM, my favourite. I just jump to other from it, but always come back. Speed, stability and great battery life (2 days isn't a problem).
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how do you handle apps on it. as there is no apps2sd
i agree that stock is fast and stable. but 7xmb is too few for apps isnt it? i need about 150-200mb of my ext partition..
Best suggestion find someone who can make a rom for ya ^^ get them to add apps2sd to a stock rom and minor modifications including UV kernel and you have one of the longest lasting rom's and very stable plus a tiny bit faster than stock so win win win also by minor modifications I meant very minor as too keep fully stable you can always use the rom kitchen I keep hearing about lol if you don't wanna ask someone to make one for ya ^^
xillius200 said:
Best suggestion find someone who can make a rom for ya ^^ get them to add apps2sd to a stock rom and minor modifications including UV kernel and you have one of the longest lasting rom's and very stable plus a tiny bit faster than stock so win win win also by minor modifications I meant very minor as too keep fully stable you can always use the rom kitchen I keep hearing about lol if you don't wanna ask someone to make one for ya ^^
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ummm can you make me a stock t-mobile OTA 1.6 ROM with UV/OC kernel and fro-yo themed?
lol
UberMario said:
ummm can you make me a stock t-mobile OTA 1.6 ROM with UV/OC kernel and fro-yo themed?
lol
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xD don't ask me im busy with zx and miui atm xD if you can wait till friday yeah should be able to ^^
Wow, that's a lot of suggestions.
I just went with HTCClay's SuperFast. Works great, although I need to find a version of MMS.apk that lets you change the font size.
Many thanks, gentlemen.
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TheOfficiall by enomther
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I agree. TheOfficial is so stable than the HTC Oficial ROM but with some interesting improvements about the speed and new features (tethering...).
The problem is a lot of new apps won't work: it's a Donut ROM.
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xD don't ask me im busy with zx and miui atm xD if you can wait till friday yeah should be able to ^^
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Lol. I guess I can wait or figure out how to compile kernels. If you do have the time make it based off of CM 4
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since you like the ipad; you should try my roms , iCyan0x00 Froyo, Eclair, Sense, etc.

[Q] best rom G1?

hi...
last night i ported honeycomb 3.0 on my G1, and was hoping for a special experience, but as tonnes of things failed to work, flashed sense hero v1.5.
i have G1 qwertz, so the keyboard response is not perfect in the rom.
i have tried a number of other roms also. ginger yoshi was nice but had some problem with my network. froyo yoshi-i didnt hoo with that for long....
cm6 was okay...
i am loving the UI of sense rom though...
also, i had bought an extended 2850mAh battery on eBay but i dont think it's performing the way i expected 4-6 hrs at max on these roms
any suggestions??
thanks in advance...
btw, my 1st Qn.....
lol even though it's your first question... there are over 100 posts of people asking the same question... and the same answer applies... depends on the flasher (you)
now you say you like sense roms, only downfall is NO sense rom, i repeat NOOOO sense rom for the G1 has a working camcorder or bluetooth... NONE!!!! lol
k now that i got that out the way...
my suggestions...
1st. my rom of coarse SenseLX (great rom and the team and i keep it up to date and add features here and there for people in need, all you have to do is ask...)
2nd.. gingerbread with sense thisrom is still in development but omg it is amazing!!! trust me just try it you will be impressed... i haven't tested it in a while because i been busy keeping my rom updated but last time i tried it my mind was blown!!!! simply amazing for a G1 lol
3rd... Magic Sense this rom is by namit1994, who was a great help in the development of my SenseLX rom, he recently ported this rom for the G1 and has been busy working on it so you should be impressed with this also if you like sense
besides those 3.. you just have to read around the forums and kinda figure out what you like most... there many varieties of sense roms for the G1, people have worked very hard on these roms so they would appreciate a simple click of the thanks button! lol as would I but yeah so good luck with your rom hunt and dont forget to thank the developers for all there hard work!!
thnx a lot
will try sense lx 1st...
wanted a gingerbread only, basically...
thnx again!!!
You can also try SuperAosp 6.4, it had been doing good for me and I am happy with it.
I'm using Froyo by Laszlo for about 5 months, that's a great and stable rom.
Cyanogen is good
Just flashed Cyanogen 7.1. It's nice, true.
is cm 7 stable??? heard it's not yet...
flashed ginger yoshi(again)...it's nice and speedy...i have problems at times regarding my network(receiving messages)...can that be because of the radio(2.22.28.25) atm...
i tried the sense roms,but they take up some amount of space making the device a wee bit slow for me cos ds looked decent though
So, CM-best?
Hi guys and girls,
Im beginner around here, so be patient with me.
So, ok, when i was reading the first reply, i was like, yes, sence is nice. Have tried some Hero rom on my G1, that was on an sdcard that i got with the phone. Putted it using rom manager on it. But then somehow i felt that those eye candy things are less important for me then nice functionality of the system.
So as i see CM is most complete and most popular rom that should be quite good. Or one of the best i guess.
But i what i am wondering. I have now CM6 on my G1. And sometimes its kind of a littlebit slow you know. So one question i have, would an earlier version CM5 for example be some kind of faster? Althou i have read on wikipedia android page that "2.2 (Froyo) introduced speed improvements with JIT optimization and the Chrome V8 JavaScript engine". And that CM6 is based on 2.2. So it kind of not supposed to be slower.
Basicly Microsoft Exchange support would be nice to have for me. Because im IT pro and it was nice expirience to have both, personal and work email on my last phone i used (nokia 5800). As i see CM5 can do that. Since exchange support is since version 2.0/2.1 as i see on internet. But then would CM5 be any faster then CM6? And is CM7 slower?
Also bluetooth and camera support is pretty nice to have. So i would rather go with CM i think then, then with SenceLX. Althou its nice to have something like that. Let's imagine if i didnt need bluetooth and camera, then i can use it i guess.
Thanks in advance,
MVG,
Nikolai
edit: or is it time to get a faster phone? Because i actually just got the G1. Because i havent found anything better with full keyboard. And BB 8520 has no GPS, and no auto focus, and no Android. So i took G1. But i guess it maybe can be better with something faster. Tell me what do you think.
sense lx looks wow!!!! pretty good...but i couldnt have it running for me as a daily use rom....i was on eclair,htc clay's super bad for almost 7 months and loved it...also tried a few froyo's which were nice....
didnt fancy cm's much....
yoshi is really good...ginger yoshi ofcourse better than froyo yoshi...
also, cos ds gingerbread is worth a try!!!
mind u, for all the gingerbreads u need to have the latest radio and spl(2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 with 1.33.0013)...
if you want smoothness and functionality i would suggest a stable froyo rom, but update your radio to 2708/2825 for the extra 15mb ram hack adds some speed to the device... my personal favorite was froyo by laszlo with ezbifftest 2708 kernel but it hasn't been updated in so long so im sure there's more stable froyo roms available... i've just been busy keeping senselx up to date and currently me and maximo are building a froyo rom from source so once thats at a stable point i will reccomend it and would love some testers and opinions
THAT'S LOVELY...WOULD LOVE TO TRY THE FROYO, STABLE OFCOURSE!!!!
currently hooked to gingeryoshi
I like Ginger Yoshi also.
I see here is great info on topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079194

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