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I'm really debating -- I like HTC phones and am tied to ATT right now -- it "seems" like missing the 850 frequency is a show stopper and I'd be unwise to buy one. But I see a lot of places advertising them here in the USA -- anyone who bought one haveenough experience to comment on the lack of the 850 radio frequency?
Thanks!
Hello,
I am using it in Canada. Reception is so so. The 850Mhz band is really a big miss...
Philippe
Yeah, like Phil, here, I'm using it in montreal, too. 850 is a big need indeed, but I can live without it. the only thing is we don't get 3G. but since FIDO doesn't give any good 3G service, it's not worth it.
Att in Texas
I live in Dallas and the reception is about the same as with the other band (850).
I went to East Texas to our lakehouse in the country and got spotty coverage, but it is usually spotty anyway. I believe that the reception is only a shade off for me. I use to get 0-1 bar in our lakehouse but now get no reception. The small towns surrounding I get good reception just like the 850 band. I am getting Edge reception but no HSPDA reception. I can mangage without it for now waiting on the USA version. I like the Diamond though. For me it works great and YOUTUBE has been smooth and very clear using a wi-fi here at the lakehouse. Only thing for me that is a bother now is the battery life. Great unit otherwise.
Excuse the language the the phone is badass. Im in Hickory, NC near the mountains, I get signal fade but it picks up right away, I havent had callers compalin about interferance of any sort.
I havent had dropped calls or problems. This area is not a good ATT/Cingular area due to the mountains. There is no 3G service in the area yet, so cant give you feedback on the phone. If you have cash to burn, dont wait. If its a lot of money wait. I've been using GSM luxury phones, and most never hit the US market so a few of them never had 850. Not a big deal to me, as the other US users have said SCREW IT, the phone is too good. Good Luck
My usability in Toronto is ok but I do with I had 850...even if I had no 3g...but alas, what can you do!
I would try it , but on t-mobile I know I would need the 850 to roam. That kind a bread and not being able to roam = no good. It is a deal breaker for me. Would wait for nam or get something else. Had same issue with euro dual. Great phone but no roam= Sold!
How do I find out what this country runs on? Im using Etisalat in UAE.
Thanks
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml
900 (GSM), 2100 (3G)
So is a particular band better than another? How come Etisalat runs on 900GSM while competing company DU runs on 900/1800?
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So is a particular band better than another? How come Etisalat runs on 900GSM while competing company DU runs on 900/1800?
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There are limited frequencies. One band can usually support 2 operators, usually the first two operators are given 900Mhz and the next two 1800Mhz. Often one operator has bought out another so they end up with both bands.
At the begining of GSM, 900Mhz was better, because less towers could provide more coverage (the 900Mhz signals travel farther with the same power). But now it doesnt mean much at all. There's no noticable difference at all.
nope oh ya what frequency'?????
Just Kidding....i Live In Lake Thaoe And No Problem With The Att Tmobile Frequency That I Can See.
creiz said:
Yeah, like Phil, here, I'm using it in montreal, too. 850 is a big need indeed, but I can live without it. the only thing is we don't get 3G. but since FIDO doesn't give any good 3G service, it's not worth it.
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Hmm i guess it sucks to be in Montreal then. Here in Toronto, 3G reception is great. Well, so-so where i live. Although i get a good 3G reception a block away from my house .
ref: 850
brucewilsonpa said:
I'm really debating -- I like HTC phones and am tied to ATT right now -- it "seems" like missing the 850 frequency is a show stopper and I'd be unwise to buy one. But I see a lot of places advertising them here in the USA -- anyone who bought one haveenough experience to comment on the lack of the 850 radio frequency?
Thanks!
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I use tom_condon 1.00.20.05, and have seen the search for 850 in auto, but it seems that tmo only uses it when roaming in SoCal? I think that only NY has 850/1900. The factory rom 1.34.831.1 did not search. I will try att, and that should tell me if the change works.
att works fine in LA in the 850 band. Now waiting for tmo
brucewilsonpa said:
I'm really debating -- I like HTC phones and am tied to ATT right now -- it "seems" like missing the 850 frequency is a show stopper and I'd be unwise to buy one. But I see a lot of places advertising them here in the USA -- anyone who bought one haveenough experience to comment on the lack of the 850 radio frequency?
Thanks!
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Missing 850 band?? If you do a search of this site, you will find a million threads on this subject. The 850 band has been available in radio roms since about June, as a matter of fact is available from HTC themselves as part of a ROM update. Try the 1.25.00.05 or 1.25.00.07 or 1.25.00.08 versions in the ROM Development forums. Unfortunately, no 3G. I prefer .07 version for my area of Vancouver, Canada.
OK, I must be dreaming! I looked at my x1i today, and I'm suddenly getting 3G/H. Until today, I've always only had Edge.
fieldtest.exe band shows 255:unknown
Ran speed test from dslreports.com using Opera; showing 1124 kbit/sec for a 1MB file test. Ran again with IE and got 1190 kbit/sec
I know the hardware specs on the x1i don't match up with Rogers 3g network, so did Rogers change their network recently?
This is an unlocked x1i with Generic UK ROM 1.05.931.10 R3AA010
I'm in Aurora, Ontario (north of Toronto).
Anyone else seeing this?
Rogers rolling out 3G on the 1900MHz band or you have an X1a.
I've had this x1i since December. So does anyone know if Rogers is changing, and has anyone else suddenly seen 3g?
I started noticing the 3G symbol about 2 days ago myself here in Toronto, before that it was 95% of the time E and sometimes just G. Now its 95% 3G and its unusual for it to go to E anymore. No idea though on benchmarks since I don't have a Data plan at the moment and so I only use it when I really need to. Will see if any friends have a data plan though and don't mind me borrowing my SIM for a few minutes and giving it a try, because I'm curious now. Getting the 30 fps VGA recording and 3G locally - that'd be awesome .
Peter
Thanks, pdamouse. This gives me hope that Rogers has changed their 3g network, and that I'll now finally have a really cool phone.
Anyone else seeing the same thing?
Anyone have a tech contact at Rogers that might be able to confirm?
maybe you just passed by one of the very few 1900mhz towers
Called Rogers tech support earlier; the rep I spoke with had no idea, so he asked a colleague. The colleague apparently said they now support all 4 frequencies.
The colleague was on a call, so I couldn't get any further info.
So theoretically, I was told that Rogers is now running 3g on 850, 900, 1900, 2100 mhz.
I have not been able to find anything on Rogers' site to confirm in writing.
Anyone else able to confirm?
Aha! Think it may be related to Rogers introduction of the HSPA+ ROCKET™ MOBILE INTERNET STICK
See: http://your.rogers.com/Store/Wireless/products/rstick_info.asp
Specs there indicate:
Technology: HSPA+/EDGE/GSM
Frequency:
HSPA+/UMTS 850/1900/2100Mhz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900Mhz
Data Transmission:
HSDPA – Up to 21Mbps downlink
HSUPA – Up to 5.76Mbps uplink
Great I am not the only one that noticed this. Last week I was walking to the subway and noticed 3G and H on my phone. I was blown away! I spent the weekend downtown and had 3G/HSPA everywhere. Couldn't do a speedtest but it was definately faster than EDGE.
From what I noticed, downtown Toronto now has 1900 3G but as you leave the city towards Mississauga you go back to EDGE.
gogadget said:
OK, I must be dreaming! I looked at my x1i today, and I'm suddenly getting 3G/H. Until today, I've always only had Edge.
Anyone else seeing this?
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Got the same situation on last Friday when driving at 401 and 404. But didn't get a chance to test the speed before it jumped back to EDGE.
I'm getting 3g consistently in Aurora and Newmarket. Better in some areas than others.
Also noticed 3g as I was coming down the 404.
Now in Pickering, and it's completely back to edge.
ok wtf, i bought my phone from rogers, and i've been getting 3G and H for a month now, but i just checked settings->device information->identity and under model it says x1i not x1a. anyone else noticing this? maybe because of custom rom?
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4579528
go into Settings, System, Device Information. Select the Hardware tab. Beside the first entry, CPU, you'll see one of two things:
"QUALCOMM(R) 7200A" means you've got X1i
"QUALCOMM(R) 7201A" means you've got X1a
jimwang76 said:
Got the same situation on last Friday when driving at 401 and 404. But didn't get a chance to test the speed before it jumped back to EDGE.
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lol I live within 200 meters of where those highways meet (404/DVP and 401) - that might be why I've been seeing 3G on my phone 100% of the time I'm at home. I never thought being this close to the busiest highway intersection in Canada would help me get better cell reception - but apparently it does .
gogadget said:
Aha! Think it may be related to Rogers introduction of the HSPA+ ROCKET™ MOBILE INTERNET STICK
See: http://your.rogers.com/Store/Wireless/products/rstick_info.asp
Specs there indicate:
Technology: HSPA+/EDGE/GSM
Frequency:
HSPA+/UMTS 850/1900/2100Mhz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900Mhz
Data Transmission:
HSDPA – Up to 21Mbps downlink
HSUPA – Up to 5.76Mbps uplink
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this was indeed due to the HSPA+ roll out rogers recently did. i can confirm this is the same situation on the west coast in Vancouver...thank you Rogers, now bell and telus the balls in your court.... pick it up!!
pdamouse said:
lol I live within 200 meters of where those highways meet (404/DVP and 401) - that might be why I've been seeing 3G on my phone 100% of the time I'm at home. I never thought being this close to the busiest highway intersection in Canada would help me get better cell reception - but apparently it does .
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Lucky you. The 3G signal disapears at Finch, so I still can only get EDGE at home. Hopefully more towers will be upgraded soon.
Today I managed to stay in place long enough to do a speed test.
I got 2.2mbs down and 0.65 up. Not really mind blowing but I was in a building and wasnt getting full signal. Also, there is 3G in north Mississauga, it's weird.
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Lucky you. The 3G signal disapears at Finch, so I still can only get EDGE at home. Hopefully more towers will be upgraded soon.
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Sorry man, I'm sure they will be adding more towers - the area is expanding quite quickly. I was suprised at getting the signal more than anything, and someone mentioning right where I live as the place they see it - I way way over use the : P smiley...
wait a second here
This thread doesn't make sense - I have read elsewhere that the X1a and the X1i have identical cell frequencies.
To confirm, can someone with an X1i do the following:
Go Start > Settings > Personal > Phone.
Select the Band tab.
The second drop-down box entitled "Select your GSM/UMTS band" should give the following options:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100)
Those are the options I get on my X1a, purchased directly from Rogers. Aren't those the options on your X1i as well?
benjaminries said:
The second drop-down box entitled "Select your GSM/UMTS band" should give the following options:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100)
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I actually get this on my X1i:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
But we are discussing 3G support and HSDPA - they use different frequencies for that here as opposed to Europe, and the X1i uses those European Frequencies, while the X1a is specialized for North America. The GSM Quadband is a given that it will work everwhere there is GSM - but the 3G bands are not universal.
Peter
Hey all,
hopefully i can find some help out there i will admit i am a dince i bought the phone whn it came out and it is just sitting around collecting dust i am hoping there is a way to add or modify the the signals so i can get them to work on my tmobile 3g network
cant...tmobile 3g is 1700mhz
..and AWS.
Nope, there's no way. Stick with EDGE, just like I do.
I live in Canada and I have an x1i want to trade?
i need to know which one is best to buy for service in london, but it has to be one of the two ^_^
any input appreciated ive looked at the frequencies and i see that both will work for 3g but what about 2g?
What frequency does the UK use for it's 3G service? If you are not certain I can look it up, I'm just lazy right now
Both versions have the correct frequencies for London. So you should just pick whatever version might help you when you visit the usa.
Thanks.
Hi! I have a nexus one on AT&T and absolutely love it, but due to cheaper prices and better customer support I am going to switch to T-MOBILE. So is the coverage with T-MOBILE with nexus one 3g issues worth it? How is T-MOBILE service? Please post your speeds and location in the comments. I live in East Texas and get about 2.5 megs with AT&T. Thanks forrest.
I've been with tmobile for about 6 years and their customer service is pretty great but their 3G coverage is a bit spotty in some areas. Personally, I usually have 3G and H speeds and I live in the Miami-dade and broward county in Florida. I can't really give you my speeds because I haven't taken the time to find out but they usually have a map that shows their coverage, though I don't know how accurate they are. Hope I was of some help.
I live in Sacramento and get about 700-900kbps. Nowhere near 2 megs. I've heard of other areas that get much faster speeds (HSPA+ areas). However, I rarely run into an area where I won't pick up 3G.
i live in miami florida, their service is horrible; atleast in my neighborhood. i cant get 70k downloads to save my life.
I just did one quick speed test and I got 1.77 Mbps
Yea I'm picking up my N1 tonight from the FedEx hub since my gf can't answer the door.
I live in Cincinnati OH area and it seems to be good. My neighbor has full bars on his Nexus one and Tmobile, although I don't think he's the type to know his download speed.
player911 said:
Yea I'm picking up my N1 tonight from the FedEx hub since my gf can't answer the door.
I live in Cincinnati OH area and it seems to be good. My neighbor has full bars on his Nexus one and Tmobile, although I don't think he's the type to know his download speed.
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I live in Cincinnati as well. The west side of town to be more accurate.
I can agree that for the most part 3G/H is pretty common there are still a decent amount of Edge holes in certain areas.
Overall the connection is pretty good.
My issue is the download/upload speeds on the Tmobile 3G/H network in Cincinnati. It doesn't matter where I go; Downtown, Kenwood, Blue Ash, Milford, Springdale, Cheviot, Northern KY... My speeds are pretty subpar
for 3G+. I get on avg .4-.5 mbps down and .3-.4 mbps up no matter where I am at in the city. This includes being within a football field of an H equiped tower.
They have some major work to do in Cincinnati when it comes to upgrading the networks backhaul.
remember you will have to buy a new nexus one to work with tmobile's 3G. the att version only supports ATt's 3G, and the tmobile only supports tmobile's 3G. so you will need a new phone
RogerPodacter said:
remember you will have to buy a new nexus one to work with tmobile's 3G. the att version only supports ATt's 3G, and the tmobile only supports tmobile's 3G. so you will need a new phone
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This is true. They are setup slightly different to handle that carriers specific 3G/H frequencies. Maybe you can sell yours on Craigslist if you decide to and break even.
That is my plan. Anyone with coverage in Texas? espicaly in East Texas? Also when is the 21 mbps supposed to be released? I am just a little hesitant to jump ship.
sheek360 said:
i live in miami florida, their service is horrible; atleast in my neighborhood. i cant get 70k downloads to save my life.
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Thats wonderful. I like up the street (kinda) in Tampa florida and thats the news I was hoping for..