Tomtom really slow to find satellites - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I don't get what has changed. Few months ago I was raving about how amazingly fast this phone picked up gps signal in 30 seconds or less compared to the old phone. But now it takes forever, even with the hotfix. Sometimes it's faster, but generally, very slow, particularly from cold, it can take several minutes or sometimes, nothing. Could having both tomtom6 and tomtom7 on phone be causing a problem? Or do you think it's time to format the phone and reinstall everything?

Use your QuickGPS more often to refresh data and it will pick up your sat's way quicker.
Hope I could help ya.

WoGijs said:
Use your QuickGPS more often to refresh data and it will pick up your sat's way quicker.
Hope I could help ya.
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My QuickGPS is always updated.

you're not trying to get it to work in doors right ?
gps don't work well if at all inside the bricks block too much signal
same reason people keep sat discs outside

Rudegar said:
you're not trying to get it to work in doors right ?
gps don't work well if at all inside the bricks block too much signal
same reason people keep sat discs outside
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Nope. In my car.

Anyone else got any suggestions? Haven't really had any as yet.

Roman5 said:
Anyone else got any suggestions? Haven't really had any as yet.
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No suggestions but I'm experiencing the same issue which began about 5 weeks ago.
For no apparent reason tomtom took an inordinate amount of time to find a sat lock. Mid afternoon, clear sky, no hills/tall buildings for miles. I had to pull over and do a quick gps and restart tomtom. Tomtom was ok to the destination. Next morning, same thing. Day later, same thing. Week later, same thing. In (no particular order) North Lincolnshire, Norfolkshire, South Wales, South Coast, London, Derbyshire ... If I really want a gps lock before I set off I have to do a quick gps. Otherwise tomtom can take 5 to 10 minutes to get a fix.
I've been using totmom since version 2 and I've never had an issue like this.

compact_bijou said:
No suggestions but I'm experiencing the same issue which began about 5 weeks ago.
For no apparent reason tomtom took an inordinate amount of time to find a sat lock. Mid afternoon, clear sky, no hills/tall buildings for miles. I had to pull over and do a quick gps and restart tomtom. Tomtom was ok to the destination. Next morning, same thing. Day later, same thing. Week later, same thing. In (no particular order) North Lincolnshire, Norfolkshire, South Wales, South Coast, London, Derbyshire ... If I really want a gps lock before I set off I have to do a quick gps. Otherwise tomtom can take 5 to 10 minutes to get a fix.
I've been using totmom since version 2 and I've never had an issue like this.
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I might try that then. I generally have quickgps updated or maybe a day left before it needs updating again. So maybe updating everytime before I set off and restarting tomtom will get that fix quicker. Thanks.

Had this behaviour too a while ago, after a soft reset or even after terminating tomtom and fire it straight up again solved the issue.
I have no clue or explanation, but you might give it a try.
i haven't experienced this issue since a few weeks; i flash my device on a regular base, (including radio if recommended), let's me think it has something to do with combination radio/rom.

Disable A-GPS
I was having a problem retaining a fix with TT6 on my Diamond. I did a bit of Googling and was advised to disable A-GPS. Despite it supposedly being there to improve things it did exactly the opposite. This might be totally unconnected to your problem of not getting a fix in the first place but I'd give it a go. Nothing ventured, nothing gained ......

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Digitraveller settings for tomtom2 ??

Has anyone got the radioshack digitraveller working with the tomtom 2 navigation software?
What settings are you using? I have tried NMEA 0183v2 driver and NMEA 0183v2 : 4800 and the light comes on but it just sits there and doesn't get a fix
Cheers
Neil
tomtom gps or nmea at 4800 will work, I used mine today, however it takes a loooooooooooooooong time to get first fix, make sure under settings/connections/beam, that the box to accept all incoming beams is switched off, also if you have the driver for the folding keyboard in rom, it will need disabling after EVERY boot or it will snatch the com port and tomtom wont work. Go to tomtom properties, go to gps and look to see if a signal is being looked for, you will see a line of dots from the dish icon running left to right.
WOOHOO!!
Its working now, it just took AGES to get a fix, drove round in the car for about 15mins then it found some. So I setup tomtom to take me home, which it did, but I noticed the voice prompts were quite late, ie. i would turn the corner, then it would say "Turn Left.." after i had gone round it.
Also now I have just got back, exited tomtom, nothing is running gps not plugged in, and the phone is CRAWLING!! there is about 15mb of mem free so no probs there...
This is in WM2003 4.0.11, would PPC2002 be any better? less resource hungry maybe ?
I'm not too bothered about using WM2003 anymore, it seems more trouble than its worth at the moment... especially seen as it has soft reset its-self a couple of times... just waiting for my new SD card to erase spontaniously (sp?) now :roll:
I went back to 2002, I had far to many problems with wm2003, its up to you, but at least give it a try as I find it far more stable. By the way, did your sd card have a hardware switch to prevent erasure, I seem to remember you thought it lacked that feature when you ordered it.
No the SD card has no lock on it thats kind of whats worrying me about WM2003, don't really want it blanking the card when i'm out somewhere because i'd have no maps then so GPS would be useless :roll:
I think I'll try it on PPC2002 later, until a more stable version of WM2003 is around.
Cheers
I have found that if you use external power with the digitraveler but have no batteries in the unit, you have to wait for ages for the gps to lock on, however if you make sure that batteries are present it reduces the initialisation times dramatically. Maybe it stores an almanac and needs a little power to keep the memory, I dont really know, but try it and see if you get the same results as me. In tomtom when starting up without batteries I get one sat then wait ages for another, when batteries are left the unit it finds lots almost immediately then gets a 3d lock a little while later.
Been playing around with it a bit more today, put PPC2002 back on everything seems to run better... might just be because its a fresh install.
At the moment I'm running it just off batteries, and it does say GPS fix unreliable sometimes but I'll see what happens with power cable connected to it aswell.
I want to try and sort it out so that I can put the XDA into some sort of car cradle, and it will link up the GPS receiver, charge the XDA, output voice prompts to the Aux-In on my car stereo.
Would be awesome if it works, but i'm just a bit worried about the sturdyness of the xda when its in the cradle, I don't want to go breaking the connector on the pcb or anything because the phone is rocking around too much...
Cheers

Time running slow

Hi all,
I have noticed the clock on my diamond runs slow. I dont switch the phone off but when I check the time its fallen back by about 3 mins everyday.
Any ideas on how I can rectify this?
Using .07 radio and duttys 1.6
Im having the same problem. Anyone got a solution?
really strange, never noticed before, but I'm currently using a different rom & radio
I have the same problem but it doesn't fall behind as fast, probably 3 mins in a week.
Using Stock 1.93 ROM
Would be great if someone could look into this.
same here....
I have been waiting for an answer for 2 months but no one seems to know how to solve this problem....
... and the same here ...
I have to set my clock every 5 days.
I think it is about 2 to 3 minutes a week.
mine is like 2-3 mins a day...
Same problem with mine: about 2 to 3 minutes a day delay everyday.
I'm using ROM version 1.93.831.1 WWE by the way.
I hope somebody can figure out this bug.
Thanks.
After I set Setting/Phone/Timezone to auto, my clock didn't skip any more. I don't know if it involves data usage though.
Johnny
I tried to tick that also, but it does not work for me...
No problems here on original rom.
maybe there is a serie with a bad crystal inside.
Grtzzz
after midnight..clock is slow
Hello guys....
there's something I notified a few weeks ago, and I saw this thread, so I would like to tell you this...
everytime when it's after midnight for example: 00.20 and then when I turn on the screen with the powerbutton when it's in standby the clock will not move directly to the correct time, but it wil just flip very vast untill the right time....
Does anybody else have this problem to??? I hope somebody understand what I'm trying to say....It's not very frustrating, but at least it's annoying...
thanks guys!!
greetzz Jeroen
Pietje_1985 said:
Hello guys....
there's something I notified a few weeks ago, and I saw this thread, so I would like to tell you this...
everytime when it's midnight for example: 00.20 and then when I turn on the screen with the powerbutton when it's in standby the clock will not move directly to the correct time, but it wil just flip very vast untill the right time....
Does anybody else have this problem to??? I hope somebody understand what I'm trying to say....It's not very frustrating, but at least it's annoying...
thanks guys!!
greetzz Jeroen
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I have not tried it but will do so when I have time, i.e. when I'm still awake at midnight
Anyway before I go to sleep, I always turned off my unit to conserve the battery. Still the problem persists with regards to time delay of 2 to 3 minutes everyday.
HiddenLight said:
I have not tried it but will do so when I have time, i.e. when I'm still awake at midnight
Anyway before I go to sleep, I always turned off my unit to conserve the battery. Still the problem persists with regards to time delay of 2 to 3 minutes everyday.
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That's what I also do...but still....very strange behaviour and especially if you just want to see before you go to bed, if you havn't missed a call or a text or so..
I don't know how to replicate it, but i've had this happen even at 11am! It doesn't really bother me, though. In fact, i quite like it sometimes! Because of the way it's doing it, I really doubt this is a bug... it must be something done on purpose. Perhaps you can contact HTC about it...
Mastermnd said:
I don't know how to replicate it, but i've had this happen even at 11am! It doesn't really bother me, though. In fact, i quite like it sometimes! Because of the way it's doing it, I really doubt this is a bug... it must be something done on purpose. Perhaps you can contact HTC about it...
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I already asked NisseDILLIGAF about this, and he also doesn't know how this could happen...actually sometimes it's quite funny, although I don't really mind...I was just curious if somebody else had the same issue...lol
tytn clock
have a tytn II and the same issue with me, the clock runs slower than normal time like 2-3 minutes within 4-5 days.
Pietje_1985 said:
Hello guys....
there's something I notified a few weeks ago, and I saw this thread, so I would like to tell you this...
everytime when it's after midnight for example: 00.20 and then when I turn on the screen with the powerbutton when it's in standby the clock will not move directly to the correct time, but it wil just flip very vast untill the right time....
Does anybody else have this problem to??? I hope somebody understand what I'm trying to say....It's not very frustrating, but at least it's annoying...
thanks guys!!
greetzz Jeroen
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I have the same problem and posted two messages. I couldn't find a solution yet
I think this might be more wide spread that we think but its not getting noticed by people who sync with PC frequently. I have found that If you use active sync it resets the time to the PC time each time you connect!
Still needs sorting though!!
having the same problem. what I didnt like is my Sony Ericsson phone got an option to get the clock from network so dont have to bother about the time. my diamond seems to lag2-3 min a day. I tried the option GPS clock sync but still it's the same.( i use gps quite often)

Tilt GPS Problem fixed?!

ok i dunno what jus happened so i want sum1 else 2 try it kuz i kno im not the onli 1 who had problems using their gps in the 6.1 update. i sumhow fixed the gps problem....i installed GPStest and i tested every baud rate after that DIDNT work i put it bak on the default n let it sit there while i read on the forum n i looked bak n it had a fix..so i went into 2 live search n it got a fix ...i soft reset it and tried again n it got a fix pretty fast ...and the third time it got a fix realli fast .....my guess is maybe since your making it try different rates it kicks it bak into gear so to speak...sum1 else try it and let me kno their results please....thanx
dat1rican said:
ok i dunno what jus happened so i want sum1 else 2 try it kuz i kno im not the onli 1 who had problems using their gps in the 6.1 update. i sumhow fixed the gps problem....i installed GPStest and i tested every baud rate after that DIDNT work i put it bak on the default n let it sit there while i read on the forum n i looked bak n it had a fix..so i went into 2 live search n it got a fix ...i soft reset it and tried again n it got a fix pretty fast ...and the third time it got a fix realli fast .....my guess is maybe since your making it try different rates it kicks it bak into gear so to speak...sum1 else try it and let me kno their results please....thanx
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Well i did knot no what u wus talkn bout till i gots my 12 years old brudder to read ur message, damn.
TRY TYPING IN PROPPER GRAMMER, YOU AINT TXT MESSAGING HERE.
Since im at work and really bored I will translate
Jus--Just
Sum1--Someone
2--to, two
Cuz-- Cause, Because
Onli-- Only
1--One
Bak--Back
N-- And
Thanx--Thanks
And to think most of us here have kids in the public education system.
In general....
If you're going to chat in a realtime system... as in... messenger... irc... even sms's... then write as compact, and as fast as you can. The objective is to get the message there.
Yet...
If you're going to write to a more perpetual system.. one the many will read, search.. contemplate and comment... like a web forum... a mailing list... an email.. or even a small comment to a blog... then write as correctly as you can.. Many will read your post... many will use the forum search mechanism to search... and due to your childish writing methods... most usefull search items will probably not work.
Now... as to your "problem" :
What GPS problems ? The first FIX is always slow.. even with QuickGPS. Its called a Cold fix for some reason.
Hot Fixes.. the second and behond (unless you wait a very long time to turn it on) is always faster.
I've used Oficial 6.0.. oficial 6.1 and tweaked/cooked 6.1...
All worked normally with TomTom 6/7... no problem what so ever.
You have a tilt with a keyboard and not some funky dial pad. You should always type properly.. Unless you're like me and just can't. HEHE
i tried reading this, and it hurt my brain
My brain hurt too, I gave up after the first line...
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Well i did knot no what u wus talkn bout till i gots my 12 years old brudder to read ur message, damn.
TRY TYPING IN PROPPER GRAMMER, YOU AINT TXT MESSAGING HERE.
Since im at work and really bored I will translate
Jus--Just
Sum1--Someone
2--to, two
Cuz-- Cause, Because
Onli-- Only
1--One
Bak--Back
N-- And
Thanx--Thanks
And to think most of us here have kids in the public education system.
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Ok, First let me apologize for my SMS style grammar. Sorry, It's a Habit. Anyways the problem was that people were having trouble with GPS programs after the Windows Mobile 6.1 update, not all but some. I was looking around the forum and I wasn't the only one, so I tried some of the advised solutions, one of them being to test your GPS with GPStest and I did. After I tested all the Baud rates it worked. Also, I know what a cold fix is but i couldn't get a GPS fix AT ALL. Even if I left the programs, running after about 5 minutes Live Search would say it couldn't get a fix and GoogleMaps would give me an estimated range of where I could be and it was huge, and this happened all the time. well, after what I tried it worked and I just wanted to see if it would work with anyone else. Once again, sorry about the grammar and it's not that I'm uneducated, I'm just lazy sometimes. Sorry, won't do it again.
I could not get a proper fix using the 6.1 cooked ROMs on my Tilt prior to the official AT&T release. I would take up to 10 minutes to get cold fix, outside, under a cloudless sky. When I had 6.0 I could get a cold fix in under a minute.
Since the Official 6.1 ROM has come out for AT&T, I have been able to get a cold fix just as fast as 6.0 on all cooked ROMs based off the official 6.1 ROM and newer. My guess is that one of the reasons AT&T took so long to get it out the door was fixing the GPS problem, whatever it was. God knows not even the geniuses here on XDA could not figure it out. I tried every fix and tweak I could find but nothing could help me get a lock like I used to on 6.0. I'm not putting down the devs here. I'm just saying that whatever the problem was, it must have been something else than what was suggested here.
I like dutty's ROMS but they are based on the HTC 6.1 ROM and not the AT&T ROM. That said, it does take a while getting a GPS fix while using TomTom 6. I have tried the GPStest tweaks but that hasn't worked. Anything else i can do?
That's just the difference between a cold fix and a hot fix.
This just sounds like the difference between a cold fix and a hot fix.
The difference is mostly tied to where you were located the last time you got a fix. But with a new OS install there is likely no past location data for the GPS radio to use so it has no idea where you are and thus no idea where the sats should be in relation.
Therefore when attempting a cold fix it sometimes takes a VERY LONG time for it to get a lock, sometimes you won't be able to get a lock on a cold fix without GOING OUTSIDE under a relatively clear sky.
But once you get that first lock the GPS can calculate the relative locations of ALL the satellites (not that it will be using or receiving the signals from all of them...).
Keep in mind tho that if you are a VERY long distance away from the last place you locked in a fix (like 300 miles or more) that can delay getting a new fix even though that would be considered a hot fix. But the bottom line is that the satellite location data is not 100% accurate since you are far from your last fix location.
But I cannot stress enough that you really should just GO OUTSIDE to get your first fix after a hard reset / new ROM install. Very few GPS receivers do well indoors and I know for a fact that the one in the Kaiser doesn't.
Ever since I upgraded to the at&t 6.1 update, I can't get my Tilt to tell that it even has a GPS device everywhere that I used to use it before the update. I let it sit until it tells me that I have no device or that I have a week signal. I have been trying to use both Telenav and google maps. someone please help give me an idea what I can do to fix this.
I have changed to radio _1.70.19.09 now i get great gps. under a min cold and a few seconds on a warm start.
hey
i also have the 1.70.19.09 and my cold fix always takes at least 2-3 min under clear sky!...which is wayyy to much imho!

stellar GPS problems

I lost my phone the other week cabbie found it but it had been run over still working but no screen, replaced screen then no one could hear me on the phone but i could hear them, after pulling the thing apart several times and checking connections done a hard reset all seemed fine until i tried my Garmin XT it just sits there trying to locate satellites no matter what i do it will not work any ideas or should i give up on the phone any help would be much appreciated
steve
Did you try to use GPSGate? Same happens to me without it, some hard sreset fixes it, most do not, so I just hit GPSGate before starting any navigation software. Try it, and see. Sometimes I have to start QuickGPS first, then GPSGate and then iGo8, and I get satellite lock in less then 1min.
Hope isn't lost
srees707 said:
after pulling the thing apart several times and checking connections done a hard reset all seemed fine until i tried my Garmin XT it just sits there trying to locate satellites no matter what i do it will not work any ideas or should i give up on the phone any help would be much appreciated
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Don't give up! There is a thread in this forum within a week or so ago that I replied to relating to a damaged antenna 'sticker' (the black sticker above the battery bay performs antenna functions) could that be the issue?

Twitchy Compass

It appears that my compass is "twitchy". I can't think of a better word to describe it. Using any program that uses the onboard compass shows the same results. For example on GPS Status the compass is constantly moving back and forth by a few degress, when I do compass mode on Street View the same thing happens, the screen is constantly moving back and forth slightly.
I've gone out of my way to make sure that I'm not near anything metal and placed the phone on the ground, with the same results.
This is my third phone and all three have done the exact same thing. This all started after I got the OTA cupcake.
Right now I'm running Cyanogen's most recent experimental build.
Any thoughts?
I would wipe and reflash and see if it still doing it. If it does I would then go back to rc29 and see if its doing it. If it still is doing it then its prolly a hardware problem.
supremeteam256 said:
I would wipe and reflash and see if it still doing it. If it does I would then go back to rc29 and see if its doing it. If it still is doing it then its prolly a hardware problem.
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A hardware problem that shows up on the past 3 phones that I've had, the one phone my wife has and didn't show up until we both got cupcake updates?
My bad I overlooked the 3 phones thing. Well you can still try to go down to rc29 which won't be cupcake and see if its doing it.
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My bad I overlooked the 3 phones thing. Well you can still try to go down to rc29 which won't be cupcake and see if its doing it.
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No twitchyness on a precupcake build.
Talk about peculiar huh? Total of 4 phones that this is happening too.
Do you live in the Bermuda Triangle
I wish it were that simple.
I thought that maybe the software's filter might have been lowered when they did the update, so I've gone atleast 100 feet from anything metal or electronic and still have the same results.
Unless the filter is so low now that it's picking up interference from the phone itself? But then why are the phones that I come into contact with doing it and no one elses? I'll see if I check on one of my coworkers phones when I go in later today. See if his does it too.
I know this is a real stupid question but is your gps turned on. When I run a program that needs gps and its turned off it works but I guess you can say twitchy.
Just checked my coworkers phone and I got the same results. Also checked the mt3g that is on display and got the same results.
For gps status it requires the gps to be on, but for street view i've got the same results when gps is off as it is when on.
Maybe we just live in a very high iron ore area?
To clarify "twitchy" I mean that the compass (or display depending on the program used) is constantly moving back and forth by a few degrees. This is happening when the phone is placed on a flat level surface and not touched.
Thats strange.
Gilliland12 said:
Just checked my coworkers phone and I got the same results. Also checked the mt3g that is on display and got the same results.
For gps status it requires the gps to be on, but for street view i've got the same results when gps is off as it is when on.
Maybe we just live in a very high iron ore area?
To clarify "twitchy" I mean that the compass (or display depending on the program used) is constantly moving back and forth by a few degrees. This is happening when the phone is placed on a flat level surface and not touched.
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idk if this is a fix. but to keep my compass healthy i shake my phone holding it upside,downside up and every way direction for like a minute and then go over my bed and spin/twist my phone in the air about 1 foot above the bed in almost every way possible . i was reading before that it will prevent the compas from getting stuck whenever near magnets.
but i just opened up my orienteer compass app and it is too going back and forth between 2 degrees..but then again its not too big of an issue.

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