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Peculiar folder on storage card

Thanks in advance for any help.
Something created a folder on the storage card in my Tilt called "(" . It appears to be empty. I am unable to delete it. I even tried taking the card out of the Tilt and putting it in a card reader. XP also sees the folder, but I can't delete it. If I use iSilo and navigate to the storage card, the folder list blinks that folder, that is, it appears ... disappears ... appears ... etc.
Any help getting rid of the folder would be greatly appreciated.

Sounds annoying, have you tried a registry editor? I think you are worrying too much about it though if it has nothing in it.

It is annoying ...
as in the iSilo example I cited. If I'm in the root of the storage card in iSilo, I have to time the tap perfectly to select a folder because literally the "(" folder appears and disappears and every folder below it changes position.
I assumed I might need to use my registry editor, but I'm not sure where to look.

try formatting the SD card

Lol, i asnwered this on the ATT forums. Look there and hopefully it will help you

Yeah, I had that problem with a folder randomly showing up with a bunch of special characters for the name, which windows doesn't like and you can't do anything with. (On my old 2125 I had one show up that was empty, but the phone kept thinking it was like 2 GB full, but it was only a 1GB card!! weird!) Anyway, to get rid of it I had to pull the card out of the phone and put it into a card reader on my PC, then I pulled all of the data other than the erroneous folder off the card and saved it temporarily to the PC, and then I reformatted the card. Put all the stuff back on, and put it back into my phone. It was a pain, but it worked.

The problem is due to storage card corruption/file corruption. I see this on a somewhat regular basis (~1500 users). I believe it is caused when the device goes into standby while writing to the storage card. I thought Win Mobile 6 handled this better than Win Mobile 5 but maybe not.
It is best to reformat the storage card if this happens.

How to transfer files faster

I use ActiveSync. But it is 2 slow. A friend of mind told me that Storage Card could turn to hard drive - how this is possible ?

You can insert your Micro SD card (w/ SD adapter) into a card reader and insert that into your USB port.
Much more faster/convenient that way.

markata said:
I use ActiveSync. But it is 2 slow. A friend of mind told me that Storage Card could turn to hard drive - how this is possible ?
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the program many people use and include in many roms here is wmstorage, which works pretty well, but again its still limited to your device's usb speed which for the most part is 1.1.

that way is definately faster (removing card and using reader), but i find that if i have programs installed on the card and i remove it to transfer, then put back into the phone, those programs installed on the card no longer work properly. i would need to soft reset everytime. kind of annoying

I don'f find it easy everytime when I want to put some mp3s or just 1 .avi or 2, to remove the stick.
And now I read that it works also with car audio system that has USB - that's really great

Huh?
NguyenHuu said:
that way is definately faster (removing card and using reader), but i find that if i have programs installed on the card and i remove it to transfer, then put back into the phone, those programs installed on the card no longer work properly. i would need to soft reset everytime. kind of annoying
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Wait a second ... are you removing the SD card while the phone is on and running? Y-I-K-E-S.
You might want to try turning the phone off, then removing your card, adding whatever you want onto the card, reinserting, and turning it back on.

i never did any such thing
there are only 2 things to take any spc actions before removing removable media
from both pc and pda
1 something is being written to it but still located in the write cache
2 a program is running directly from the flash

All Storage Card Files Gone!

I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,

mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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i have read that this has happened to some people .. not me yet (fingers crossed) don't know what causes this. You could try a recovery software and see if you can get the stuff back.

Can you or anyone suggest a recovery software? Checking the MicroSD on my laptop shows 2.88 GB being used, (and of course 2.78 GB Free) so the data should be there. I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
Just wondering...is there some kind of virus out there that would do this? For all the data to be "hidden" and a new folder to be created....the card just didn't create a folder by itself....

WM a card killer
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me

rafgerm said:
The same thing happened to my 4GB SD card in Blue Angel (twice ). It seems to me that WM kills allocation table while writing to the card. I tried lots of different soft to recover my card and finally PC Inspector File Recovery did the job. I used card reader and this soft on PC to recover most of my files but the folder and filenames were sometimes messed up. When using PCI FR do not mark to many files to recover/save at the one time because it crashes.
Don't save anything on your card before recovering !
http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1
Hope my Kaiser is not going to do this to me
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Yup, I used that program too. Recovered "missing files" problems on my previous hw6515 and twice on my TytnII 8GB micro SDdisk.

I've always had that "FilesToBeDeleted" folder too, it's normally hidden and when I delete it it comes back. Nothing special, just some folder the system wants there for some reason apparently, just like the other couple of hidden ones like WMDRM. If you didn't see it before and it now appeared it might have been hidden and the same thing that corrupt the FAT unhid it for some reason.
If you can see 2.88GB used on the PC, are you sure you have also have forced hidden files to display? Your data might be there but just hidden for some reason.
I have also saved additional data to the card and it works fine.
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NEVER EVER do that to a media with a problem you might need to recover data from. This might just have ruined your last chance. On the opposite, when possible like on SD cards the first thing you'll want to do is set it as read-only.
When files are deleted, only their reference in the file table are, but the data itself is still present on the media, which allows recovery. But the locations the data is saved on are now marked as free, and anything you'll write on the card now can overwrite it, causing definitive loss.

Thanks a ton!!! The PC Inspector program worked great!! I was able to recover my files Next step, I guess, is to format the card and use it untill it decides to wipe my files out again. Of course my failth is the card will never be the same, and I'll keep a back up of the card also.....actually I was foolishly keeping the back-up for my Tilt on the card...can't trust that method anymore!
Thanks again for all the advise and information. As with all problems, you can always treat them as "learning opportunities", or...... throw the d*** thing out a window!!!!!

Same problem here, just ran into it last night and it's driving me nuts. Is there a way to recover/format the card from within the kaiser? Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.

sammy-e said:
Unfortunately the card reader I have has a max size limitation of 2gb and the card I'm using is 4gb - lame. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Borrow, lend, or steal another card reader.

When I purchased this MicroCard, from ScanDisk, it came with a SD adapter plus a USB Card reader. I threw the USB Card reader in my desk thinking that I would not need this. I found out, by accident, that this USB card reader was the only way I could read the card on a PC. Built in card readers on both my home desk top and laptop would not access the card....
Just passing on this little bit of information, because it never occured to me that I had to use that USB Card reader!

This happened to my girlfriend's phone too. One day some of her programs just didn't work and most everything was gone on her card. Never fixed it, just reformatted card. Scary though.

Yeah, I tried recovering the data using TestDisk, saw some recommendations for it from others with the same problem, but wasn't able to get anywhere with it unfortunately. So in the end all I could do was format it and start over. Ahhh, backups... if I'd only made one.

I think this is a WM issue. Since other devices have the same problem.
here is a quote from another thread
Dutchman said:
I have the same issue with my tytn2.
Sometimes when i play some mp3s from my SD card and the device goes to standby or the program is closed my SD card is suddenly empty.
Removing the SD card and put it back in usually fixes it, sometimes a softreset also works.
So i believe this is a WM issue
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376050

I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly

mlpoland said:
I've been using a 6G ScanDisk card for the last 6 months, without any problems. I needed to move some files from the Tilt's internal memory to the Card, and to my surprise there was only a folder named "FilesToBeDeleted" on the Card. I DID NOT CREATE THIS FOLDER! Oh, and by the way the folder was empty!
Checking the storage of the card from the Memory Setting of the PPC, shows about 3 G in use, which is about what I had on it.
Can anyone shed any light on what could have happened? I can re-format the Card....but is it going to loose data again? Is this something that has happened to others?
Thanks for any help,
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IT'S A COMPUTER, I always carry a spare card, simple, job done. more time for girls/beer/pizza.

scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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Any hints on how to disable this? I did a quick search and found mention of it but nothing detailing how to control it. Thanks.

scilor said:
I had the problem that my SD Card was empty after activating Power Managment for it, disabled it and now it works for half a year perfectly
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I disabled it w/ kaiser tweak. Still i have the issue

Has anyone had the issue while pretty much not ever using Windows Media Player mobile? I was playing DRM'd audio files, is that possibly a common theme?

Could it be Moving PIE Cache?
Happened to me too. 8GB card. Just getting back up and running...wish I had read this last night. I put a bunch of stuff back on the card. Oops. Oh well. I think the common thread may be:
moving your PIE Cache to the SD Card.
Anyone else with this problem also move PIE Cache? Used Memmaid 2.0 to change it.

different in my case, I haven't changed any of the cache settings for PIE.

Tilt corrupt files

I have an ATT Tilt that I'm still running WM 5 on. (Correction: it is actually WM 6) I am having some trouble with some corrupt files showing up on my memory card. I went so far as to buy a new memory card and removed several 3rd party apps that I had installed. Even after this, the files returned on the new card. I cannot access or delete them. I cannot tell which files are being corrupted, I assume they are program and documents that should be otherwise usable. The file names show up as a series of squares, other odd shapes, numbers and letters.
Some of the 3rd party apps I am using are
Total Commander
WMWifiRouter (added after this problem started)
Google Maps and Mobile Apps
Opera Mini
I haven't made any alterations to ROM or anything else.
Any help would be appreciated on how to proceed in clearing this up. One app that I notice is affected is "Notes". I have lost some data that I had saved in that.
Thanks!

How did you get windows mobile 5 on it?

I have the same problem from time to time. There is no real fix that I have found. What I think is happening is, the phone is reading/writing to the memory card, and either it stops (beause you put the phone to sleep, or soft reset it) or some other method. Since the file was never closed/finished correctly, it gets curroped. I strongly recommend backing up your SD card every month or 2. That way, when things do crash, you do not lose all your files.
Last time it crashed. I hard reset the phone, and re-formated the sd card in my PC. It has been 3 months and so far no problems. Maybe you can try that...

Oops my mistake I have WM 6
CE OS 5.c.1622
Sorry

other things to check or try changing include:
1. the brand of the micro sd card
2. any power saving settings that might be getting applied to the micro sd card (in my opinion, power saving settings are notorious for such behavior and my advice is to just disable any power saving settings for the micro sd card/slot)
3. your usage habits regarding closing programs. my recommendation is to CLOSE programs (as opposed to MINIMIZING them to the background) when you are done using them.
4. how/when you remove the card from the device (if you ever do) and/or how you remove the card from your desktop/laptop (if you occasionally use a card reader). on your desktop/laptop, it is advised to "Safely remove hardware" before physically removing the card from the card reader. on your device, it is advised to close all programs that might be accessing files from the card, wait a few seconds, and then remove the card. most people will suggest shutting down the device before removing the card but it is my understanding that the card slots in the kaiser are indeed hot swappable (i've been using it that way for almost 2 years and have never experienced any issues with my 8GB sandisk).
5. getting a card reader is highly recommended, especially if you want to try to recover lost data or to repair the file system on the card. as a bonus, the card reader will also allow nearly 5 to 10 times faster read/write access when transferring files onto/off the card from your desktop/laptop as compared to activesync via usb sync cable.
6. avoid setting your programs to use the card as "cache". example, some people like to set their browsers' cache folders to the storage card. this can also cause file system errors in some rare and remote scenarios.
all these portable devices (phones, digital cameras, mp3 players) use the fragile FAT32 format as their file system but i've always hoped that M$ would some day provide an alternative file system (something like NTFS without its security features perhaps to keep things simple for the pda phone), but alas that day has yet to come!

Try copying all your files to your computer (in case something happens)and run an error check from your PC with a card reader. Right click on the card in Windows Explorer (if you have Windows), choose Properties, then choose the Tools tab, then click Error Check, and run the check.

had the same problem, lost all my programs. I copied a very old back up over to the card . once I had done that the original files reappeared.

cannot convert file(random file) reached the end of the file

ok well im trying to clean off my 8 gb micro sd card so im copying all the files to my desktop, well every so often i get the error "cannot convert file(random file) reached the end of the file" iv tried changing the name, file type, the only thing i can do is delete it or leave it, now i can run the cab file and it works fine from my phone. Iv tried to use my usb card reader and tower card reader but niether will even read my card, anyone have any ideas on why this is happening &/ or have to fix this, iv had the card for a couple years and never any problems and this tilt almost a year any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated , thanks
btw i just noticed something new why is this [OP] next to some names and icons now, didnt notice it before

the "[OP]" next to a person's name within a thread being viewed indicates that this person started the thread you are viewing, i.e. he/she is the "original poster" or some such.
regarding your problem, i assume you are stuck with using activesync to access your microsd card (because you say no card reader will read the card)? when microsd cards start acting up, most people will suggest sticking it into your pc via a card reader to copy files and run data recovery software and to eventually reformat the card. once again, i am assuming this is out of the question because your card readers will not see the data on the card.
activesync's file system access is sufficient but not very flexible and fairly poor. i have noticed that the remote desktop client on windows mobile is able to make your device's microsd card available to the pc you are connected to via remote desktop during the entire session. you might want to attempt a copy via this kind of a connection.
another alternate is to try "schap's network plugin". this will allow you to map a folder shared on your pc (remember to give this folder full write access) onto your device's \Network folder. then you can freely copy/paste stuff to/from your pc using the device's file explorer.
final option is to copy problematic files on to your device's memory and see if activesync is able to read from the device's memory. this is really only feasible if the largest problematic file can fit into the limited free space available on the device's memory.
when you are completely done and satisfied with the files you have recovered, stick the card back into the card readers connected to your pc and see if you can get the card reformatted while its in there even though the current file system/data on the card is not being detected.
finally, remember that most microsd cards (like nearly all other things) have a limited life...so maybe the card just needs to be replaced with a spanking new one now.