i remember when i used to have to google to find things for phones, and make all sorts of account for different sites, and then i found XDA and thats all i needed.
recently, for some reason- a good amount of stuff is turning into links to multiple other website- wouldn't it be easier if everything was hosted here again? so we could get expert help from the community and download files directly instead of logging into yet another site.
sorry if this seems like venting, but i just don't want to see XDA change
IIRC - XDA received a Cease and Desist order from Microsoft regarding hosting ROMs.
Vent away regardless - just aim it in the right direction.
-Daniel
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IIRC - XDA received a Cease and Desist order from Microsoft regarding hosting ROMs.
Vent away regardless - just aim it in the right direction.
-Daniel
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I was always under the impression that small cabs and what not were acceptable, but that ROMs should be hosted off-site due to their size and the load it place on XDA servers. Never really read that anywhere, just kinda made that assumption, as ROMs have always been off-site as far back as I can remember.
Anyway, that's besides the point. I don't think he means ROMs, but a lot of the cabs, tweaks, programs, etc that are being hosted more and more off-site. Personally, I hate logging into other sites just to download something, and agree that it would be nicer if more were hosted here. That said, I hate the slow servers and waiting forever for a page to load. Let that **** happen somewhere else, I say.
OP, I hear what you're saying. The more is hosted here, the worse the server loads will be, the slower pages will load, the more likely you'll end up at another site looking for the answer. Personally, I'm grateful to guys that put up their own site just to have files readily available (TPC did this for a minute, not sure if he got his site back up). Unfortunately, disk space and bandwidth isn't unlimited, nor is it free!
dweidman said:
IIRC - XDA received a Cease and Desist order from Microsoft regarding hosting ROMs.
Vent away regardless - just aim it in the right direction.
-Daniel
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when did this happen? i've not been on in a couple weeks, have to get caught back up on things.
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when did this happen? i've not been on in a couple weeks, have to get caught back up on things.
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That happened back in '07. You can find the original thread concerning that here, if you're interested.
sorry, i mispoke- i meant that ROMs used to be directly linked from here to free no username sites such as megaupload, rapidshare, and my favorite 4shared
nowayadays i have to log into other forums like htcpedia and go through their threads for links to uploads or download straight from that server- i love xda, and i don't want it to start filling up with links to other forums and eventually have to switch just to avoid all the hassle(i would never consider it by the way, this place rocks)
Related
Some ROMS that were on the FTP before are available on BitTorrent, Azureus, eDonkey or any other P2P Torrent client.
A search for the original posted name of the file in a Torrent tracking site will probably do in most cases.
Beneath you will find a list of ROMs that have been found available through searching on PirateBay:
5._Underground_edition_Crossbow_ROM
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
Custom_Aku3.5_V3
CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-6mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-4mb
orwells1984
PDAMobiz_Wizard_Crossbow_AKU3.3_v.3311_G3_only
RUU_Molski.Biz_Faria_AKU3.2-3000_3000_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship
RUU_Wizard_1050402_101_11210_O2_ENG
Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2
Wi6ard_pdaviet3
Wi6ard_pdaviet4
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102
Remember you help the community by leaving the files in your shared folders as long as possible.
Rom distribution is decentralize from XDA.
XDA Cannot and will not host Material on it's servers that is not allowed.
Which basicly means that the people that own or pay for the rights of use to the Domain, webserver and FTP server, thus supplying us the users with these forums, have nothing to do with the distribution of illegal roms.
I will take a looksee, to see if i find other Roms. Any help in this is apreciated off course.
And i will update the list accordingly.
What do you people think of updating the Wiki to explain what the names of these ROMs represent?
Thats good Noonski that you are taking initiative...Dunno if this will be acceptable though or whether M$ will force xda not to even talk about torrents having ROMs (seems unlikely).Anyways, if this is allowed, I'm willing to pitch in to reseed and also seed the ones I already have with me.
But one thing, though choosing one particular site like demonoid might be a good idea in the sense of having a central repository of all ROM torrents but it has its drawback in not giving access to everyone since its a private tracker. Moreover, since you propose the next release of a rom to be closed, this raises 2 questions:
1. Ppl who are not demonoid subscribers can't get em. Is there going to be any invite system in place for demonoid?
2. even with the invite system how will one determine who gets the invite and who doesnt?
I am happy with my ROM collection and honestly this doesnt impact me at all. If I want a WM6 device, i will just buy it.
demonoid is good, i second that, and as for invites, i think i can give out some, we need to start by making a list, lets say by the number of posts, lol i will wont be getting invites since i have been more of a reader than a replier. anyways, but we need to think outside the box, we cant just cave in.
lets see,
our options are:
1. private ftp, maybe ce4arab.com will allow us to use thiers
2. torrents
3. irc
4. newsgroups, hate them since never got how to use them
5. files upload websites
6. gmail, or yahoo spaces
any more?
it has to be done, we need to do this, we will do it.
cheers
I think torrents are a great way to go. I prefer Pirate Bay since registration is closed at Demonoid it is harder to get many new users using for these purposes. If there are existing torrents pm me and I will be happy to seed as well.
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Just downloading the Roms and not reseeding is not being part of a Community, thanks.
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I would love to help out by seeding. I have a T1, not a ton of bandwidth but plenty good to get these pushed out. If someone has something they want me to seed, let me know.
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private ftp, maybe ce4arab.com will allow us to use thiers
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I would also be in favor of setting up a private FTP for those who have something to contribute. If it is not in the public eye then we shouldn't have a problem right. I have been using these ROMS for a while now and would love to help out. I have plenty of hard drive space for it, and a Dual Processor server on my T1.
Send me email if you wanna get something done. Perhaps we need a mini private forum outside of the public eye also, just a thought.
cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
While the idea is nice, I think It'll only help get Demonoid get a cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
Think you better upload them to newsgroups, like a.b.warez.pocketpc or something.....
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Think you better upload them to newsgroups, like a.b.warez.pocketpc or something.....
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I second this. Newsgroups are the way to go.
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Moreover, since you propose the next release of a rom to be closed, this raises 2 questions:
1. Ppl who are not demonoid subscribers can't get em. Is there going to be any invite system in place for demonoid?
2. even with the invite system how will one determine who gets the invite and who doesnt?
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I just feeling around a bit. Wading the water.
1. Demonoid has an invite system in place allready.
I have just posted the torrents also on a PirateBay tracker.
And BTW the torrent on demonoid should be open to everyone unless i F^cked up again
2. You are right about deciding who's in or out.
I myself would only invite if i knew that either the user nows what he wants. I could see some of his posts for instance.
It's why having a discussion is a good thing. What do people think is smart. What do the Cooks want.
Do they want the roms to be totally available for everyone including users that should not be playing around with Roms but do add to the attention XDA gets?
As for me i don't care where i post the Roms. It's just that for most of my other torrents i'm a Demonoid user. I'll post them anywhere and seed them anyhow. As long as i don't get them from XDA directly it's none of their biz is it?
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While the idea is nice, I think It'll only help get Demonoid get a cease-and-desist letter from Microsoft....
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Have you seen what else is seeded there?
Vista crack here, Office Version There. Pre release DVD rips........
It looks like most of the stuff up there is not allowed by anyone.
PirateBay here we come
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I think torrents are a great way to go. I prefer Pirate Bay since registration is closed at Demonoid it is harder to get many new users using for these purposes. If there are existing torrents pm me and I will be happy to seed as well.
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The three faria roms are available on PirateBay all people now need to do to help out is keep the seeds alive.
Maybe i should reconsider changing my nick there.
if anyone can please seed the PDAviet4 installer that would be GREAT!!! I have been wanting to try it out for a long time now, and i've searched every torrent site i know of and nothing comes up. I myself am helping out with the faria roms. If anyone can please message me with a means of a way to get it, that would be GREAT!
Thank you.
I'd definitely like to see postings of new releases to newsgroups as this is the fastest way to obtain anything that's recent.
I myself have a few roms to share :
buttons 1.05
molski (several)
faria V2 8mb
pdaviet3 / 4
orwells
underground
tmobile 2.26
maybe others...
but I dunno how to post to newsgroups or else
If s/o can explain, i'll be glad to help there
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
Yes the thread has been updated.
the
AKU3.2-1.0RC1 Wizard Rom
can now also be found on Pirate Bay.
I want to thank those people that are now reseeding the Faria roms.
I have never stated and will never state that I am the person that uploads these Roms.
Shame that not enough people have picked up on this thread or sollution.
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Hey it is just getting better.
Don't ask me exactly which rom this is maybe someone can enlighten me?
xdaminis-update_22413_2214106_021911GER
Also available somewhere on the fast planes of the Net.
A couple of Molski's are up. Someone pull and tell me if it was done correctly (I'm new to Torrent)
links and seeding
currently seeding aku 3.3 8mb page pool
also if anybody wants to pm me i will get back to them i have the links for the rom above and the wizard love rom on a very quick share server
8mb broadband and no leechers
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
Indeed seems like also RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
&
RUU_Molski.Biz_Faria_AKU3.2-3000_3000_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2-G3
Are working fine on the Bay.
It's also funny to see how the 8Mb faria version is one of the favourites.
Running it myself and loving it.
Also funny to see how these Roms get seeded better than Movies.
(in other words to stay seeded even without leeches, which means a better availability, Yes it my make your seed list bigger, but some torrent clients have filters)
If only we can figure a workaround to MS request for new roms. As it clear that any new release has to be provided by a Cook. And that means a Cook can always be traced to it's afiliation and responsibility of getting the Roms out there. On th other hand A Cook is not XDA-Devs. They just use the Forums to discuss their builds! I asume that since this post (up until now) has not been blocked by an Admin. It means they do not condone this endavour. But still some input of what would be wise to post and what not. Like setting up some forum rules like not anwsering questions to users about where to find the roms. Because let's face it anyone that does not know how to find downloadable content should not be messing with their phoner?
So i'm still waiting for the big shots really. In the mean time i'll just continue my epic search for The Lost Roms!
I have a htc wizard (T-mobile MDA) and I'm not sure which rom to use in the following. What is the difference between them?
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-6mb
faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-4mb
Thanks for any help
Dearest Trinity users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
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Dearest Trinity users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
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Seems like a good idea
Good idea. And actually a great counterblow against the Microsoft's hostile plans to limit the availability of ROMs.
Maybe they will next to try close whole internet because there _MAY_BE_ some software available that hurts Microsoft's business..
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Maybe they will next to try close whole internet because there _MAY_BE_ some software available that hurts Microsoft's business..
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But that would be perfectly reasonable. The thing is that no-one is hurting Microsoft's business making those ROMs available. Quite the opposite: this site and those unofficial ROMs have contributed to the success of Windows Mobile.
But to be honest in this case I think that Microsoft is acting to please the companies that license Windows Mobile (i.e. the network operators) more than themselves. The network operators don't like sites where you can learn how to unlock phones and replace their branded software and it's easy to understand why.
Great!!
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But that would be perfectly reasonable. The thing is that no-one is hurting Microsoft's business making those ROMs available. Quite the opposite: this site and those unofficial ROMs have contributed to the success of Windows Mobile.
But to be honest in this case I think that Microsoft is acting to please the companies that license Windows Mobile (i.e. the network operators) more than themselves. The network operators don't like sites where you can learn how to unlock phones and replace their branded software and it's easy to understand why.
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Very well thought out and well spoken.
But no worries, just means we have a couple more hoops to jump through.
Why not share them in a filesharing network (emule, torrent, etc)?
Then, it would be a real "community project" and it would be not so easy to bring them down...
All files should contain "xda-dev" so they could be easy to find.
Just my 2 cents
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Why not share them in a filesharing network (emule, torrent, etc)?
Then, it would be a real "community project" and it would be not so easy to bring them down...
All files should contain "xda-dev" so they could be easy to find.
Just my 2 cents
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Yep that's true also. I'm open for plenty of other options besides RapidShare. I'm thinking of RapidShare as more of a temporary solution while XDA is forced to start deleting all the ROMs from their FTP server.
oke people, i did it, registred www.htcdriver.com, tonight i will make a little site (to keep datatraffic low) and set up the site. I was thinking of making it very simple and only with FACTS and no flaming at all. it is just to get people knowing that there are issues and make it pop up fast on google.
Tonight i will start working on it, now it's forwarded to my other site in order to get rid of spam.
Any ideas here are welcome.
REMIND: I'm not going to post any illigal things on it, only facts!
cheers... René
Good work, fella.
Plenty of relevant links - to xda and to YouTube vids of the problem - would be a good idea.
HAHAHA, nice done bro.
Strange when i click the link I goto http://www.digitalpicture.nl/
btw, I'm an amateur photographer too .
Hi aksd,
You see digitalpicture.nl as it if being forwarded at the moment...
swiftgs said:
...now it's forwarded to my other site in order to get rid of spam...
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Keep up the good job. Good luck!
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Hi aksd,
You see digitalpicture.nl as it if being forwarded at the moment...
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Aaah, missed that line I guess. Thanks mate.
Great idea. I was thinking about spamming forums aswell, but I doubt I'll make myself populair that way .
Hope it gets a lot of hits and rises to the top of google when people start looking for reviews and stuff before buying.
Just want to notice that you have to optimize web page for search engines to put it on top Domain name is only for people (when trying address directly or remembering it from last time).
So using keywords in HTML, linking between web pages and many other things can help.
But its good that someone at least start web pages about this problem!
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Just want to notice that you have to optimize web page for search engines to put it on top Domain name is only for people (when trying address directly or remembering it from last time).
So using keywords in HTML, linking between web pages and many other things can help.
But its good that someone at least start web pages about this problem!
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off course i understand that, it will be hosted on the same domain as well. Now preparing all the text, metatags etc. etc. but the last message was that i cannot upload in the first 48 hours...
So, I'm going to put my other site offline and forward the htcdriver.com to my other site, until i have a good ftp on that one.
any other ideas of the metatags:
<meta name="description" content="problems with the videodriver on your HTC" />
<meta name="keywords" content="driver, htc, Qualcomm, TYTNII, tytn, s730, touch, cruise, mobile, ppc, ms7200, dual, video, camera, movies, playback, issues, qtv, qcamera, qdecoder" />
<meta name="robots" content="index, follow" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="3 days" />
<title>htcdriver.com</title>
<!-- htc, video, issue --><cmt>
is the site down? I just got this:
This website is coming soon
If you are the owner of this web site you have not uploaded (or incorrectly uploaded) your web site. For information on uploading your web site using FTP client software or web design software, click here for FTP Upload Information.
Well seems we are going to do the same work twice as I also registered htcclassaction.org ...
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Lol, then we can link to each other
For me it's no problem, I'm just setting up a very very simple site, only stating the problems etc. etc. Just simple html, no php, only intend to inform people...
Are you planning making it more complicated?
Groeten René
Mwah, a bit. Not really complicated
Meta tags are not a big deal.
Just make sure you use proper html (h1, h2 h3, p ul etc) and simple plain English when explaining the problems with the drivers. This is more important then keywords.
May want to put Google Analytics on there also.
I'm a full time web developer so if you want any tips let me know.
Feel free to use any material that you find useful from:
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/HTC+TyTN+II+Video+Issues
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Site layout is done (visible on www.digitalpicture.nl), can someone check if it's ok? Don't bother the text on the different pages, I'm busy with that right now
Tnx for offering the use of the wiki, I'm sure gonna do that!
cheers
It looks OK in my Opera 9.24.
I only have one suggestion, maybe you can try edit logo to better describe problem and align it to the left. I think it could attract people more.
But content is more important than graphic design, so its also great this way!
Good luck with this, hopefully this will get them on the same page as us and release some drivers. This is pretty ridiculous in the first place we have to even do this.
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oke people, i did it, registred www.htcdriver.com, tonight i will make a little site (to keep datatraffic low) and set up the site. I was thinking of making it very simple and only with FACTS and no flaming at all. it is just to get people knowing that there are issues and make it pop up fast on google.
Tonight i will start working on it, now it's forwarded to my other site in order to get rid of spam.
Any ideas here are welcome.
REMIND: I'm not going to post any illigal things on it, only facts!
cheers... René
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nice idea, I will frontpage your stuff!
Hello Fellow XDA Brothers....
I am a hardcore XDA Fan and I can see many users have started posting their download link to other forums.
This is re-directing all the traffic of Xda.... as slowly XDA fans would stop logging on here and go on these sites.
We should take some steps to avoid this....
Wanted your views...
Even for normal users its really irritating to click on the link register then download ? how many clicks are we adding for one download ?
sometimes it is required so that you can download peoples work that directly conflicts in xda's rules, but they can't say anything about it since it is just a link to another site if you get the download from that site, but if you were to grab it directly off of xda then it would go against one of the rules.
or the person doesn't want their work on xda because of the attitudes that a lot of the newer users have that they are entitled to every little thing, and that is the only way you can access their work.
Simple answer, it's because it requires so much bandwidth, which costs money. Each ROM is 30-90mb, and that's only for Android, WinMo coud be bigger, I don't know. The site is kinda slow as it is (I'm not complaining, just saying) so I highly doubt large uploads will be enabled any time soon (current limit is 8mb for zip).
Humm...
Hey thanks for sharing your thoughts....
I have never posted a ROM or Apps... was nt having idea of rules
Still I could see that files were uploaded on servers like mediafire, rapidshare etc..
But now each member posts on different forums... which i did not like frankly...
So many devs come here on XDA and thats the reason why so many things are happening....
United we stand divided we fall.....
XDA Owners should think on this so everyone stays here...
Anyone interested in helping maintain a website intended to be a central location for all things sprint htc hero customizations. I know this has been attempted in the ROM, MOD and Theme threads in different threads, but I thought it might be more helpful to have everything more centralized and organized on its own site.
I'm thinking something similiar to the threads we have now, but presented more like a photo gallery style format.
If we don't think it is something that is wrothwhile, then I'll just offer a mirror to people that want one. The domain is:
sprinthtcheroroms dot com,
you can email me there at riggs Android at sprinthtcherroms dot com, if you are interested or would want your stuff hosted there as a mirror.
Just trying to do my part to help the community....
I have a few ideas as to how this could be accomplished. What sort of time frame are you thinking? I have a lot of experience with Joomla and would be willing to help you get an instance set up and try and help maintain it. I am a software developer by day, so I try not to spend too much time on a computer when I get home, but I think I could swing some time on weekends. As far as a custom solution goes, I am a huge fan of GWT and think that if you were thinking long term this is a possible solution, but is by no means a fast one. Most of the devs in the community use wordpress as their content management solution. I prefer Joomla because of it's plugability and it is less centralized around being a blog. As far as download management for Joomla, some of the more popular are DocMan and Phoca. I have integrated phpBB into Joomla before, but I would like to find something that is a bit easier if you would like to do a forum. I have been out of building php and content management sites for 2 years since I graduated, but the most feature rich Joomla example of my work is www.morningshowcentral.com.
I agree it would be nice to have a one stop shop for all things hero. I have found that it is very difficult to find these things because they end up getting buried in the forums. You could give an account to all the major devs so that they could post their releases, and it would be nice if we could set up a way for devs to get faster feedback on real problems yet not have to deal with trivial problems that can be solved by the community.
I've built a few websites in my time.. I could help you out...
A few examples of my work are:
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.google.com
regaw_leinad said:
I've built a few websites in my time.. I could help you out...
A few examples of my work are:
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.google.com
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Wow...those are some awesome sites daniel!
Some interesting browser breakdown from my posting of the RUU on my website:
Google Chrome - 76.5 %
MS Internet Explorer - 11.8 %
Firefox - 9.1 %
Safari - 1.3 %
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Wow...those are some awesome sites daniel!
Some interesting browser breakdown from my posting of the RUU on my website:
Google Chrome - 76.5 %
MS Internet Explorer - 11.8 %
Firefox - 9.1 %
Safari - 1.3 %
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you posted the RUU?
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you posted the RUU?
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what? I mirrored it I mean on the day they released it.
How's rooting going? <--hijacking own thread.
I can help, i have extensive experience in Vbulletin 3.8/4.0 If you need me you can pm me.
Ok, so I've been working on the layout of the site and such, and have the following request.
Anyone who has a FAST internet connection, can you download ROMs for me and upload them to my server? At home I only have a 3MBs/768KBs DSL line.
If you are willing I can give you a login for hte FTP for the rom folder.
I would do it, but my internet stinks...
Anyone want to do some compiling of information? I am trying to just grab posts from here, androidforums, androidcentral, etc. and clean them up (give credit to EVERYONE) just to have everything in one place.
Working in JOOMLA.
Thanks guys.
riggsandroid said:
Ok, so I've been working on the layout of the site and such, and have the following request.
Anyone who has a FAST internet connection, can you download ROMs for me and upload them to my server? At home I only have a 3MBs/768KBs DSL line.
If you are willing I can give you a login for hte FTP for the rom folder.
I would do it, but my internet stinks...
Anyone want to do some compiling of information? I am trying to just grab posts from here, androidforums, androidcentral, etc. and clean them up (give credit to EVERYONE) just to have everything in one place.
Working in JOOMLA.
Thanks guys.
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1MBP/s DL and 50KBP/s upload at your service.
As long as you promise not to beat my site, I won't attack yours
Hit me up on a PM here, want to make a small trade.