I dropped my tilt without a case, and one of the keyboard hinges split....at first everything still worked fine but soon it stopped recognizing the memory card and now it doesn't recognize the sim card either...I've tried hard resetting, is there anything else i can do? Or has my tilt gone to a better place?
Sounds like the ribbon cable connecting the keyboard with the top is broken or disconnected.
You are almost certainly out of warranty, so if this happened to me I would follow one of the guides found on these forums (look at the FAQ) to open the Kaiser and inspect the cable. Hopefully it just needs to be re-seated.
Do at your own risk, etc.
i have had no problems before, i flashed a couple roms in it before, but in the end, i kept very lightly modded rom very close to OEM rom for the tilt that i got from here. all was well for months and months.. until now.
i noticed that the phone will lose signal. and not detect a sim card anymore. at first i thought it was sim. so i tried it on my other tilt (i have 2) and i determined that its the phone.
if i restart it, it works for about 1 min or less if im lucky.. then i have to to go comm. manager, turn off phone signal, and turn it back on, usually, that does the trick. but now, that wont even work anymore.
the only way to get the sim recognized again is if i slide the phone out, go to comm. manager, turn off phone and turn back on, and LEAVE the phone slided out. once i slide the phone back in, it will not detect the sim. ive tried diff. spl, different roms, and searched before i came back here.
ive had it for over a year, have broken the screen and messed up keyboard by closing hood of my car on it,
but ive fixed it. and that was long ago. maybe this new problem is because of this. if someone had similar problems, let me know what you did. or if anyone can point me into the next direction. i guess ill have to crack it open again.
I had a similiar issue where my phone would turn on ok, then lose signal and then get the no sim card error (dialer screen). What I ended up doing was taking a piece of tape and put it on the back of the sim card then slid it into the holder and locked it. (It was a thick metal tape, if you use scotch tape I recommend using a few pieces). Once I did that I havent had another problem with it. Its a pain to get the sim out of the phone because it ruins the tape but I would rather deal with that than not have my phone work correctly.
Let me know if that works for ya.
Jim
i see. so it seems that your problem was that the sim shifted out of place sometimes... i will try that. hope it works. its so odd that my sim card dissapears when i close my tilt
I just recently had a similar problem and I finally figured out it was a bad contact with the SIM card. you can either use the tape trick, or if you have a steady hand, take a thin object (such as a paper clip or glasses screwdriver) and very gently lift the contacts up underneath of where the sim card goes. they may have been pushed down due to abnormal pressure exerted on the back of your phone, I think that's what happened to mine.
thanks for your help. the sim contact issue was the first thing i suspected, AND tried. i used a needle. i raised the level of each of the 8 contacts making sure the sim will make contact with each pin. but the problem remains.
i will try this again. to double check. i will respond with the results
i tried pushing the pins up a little bit again, i still have the same problem
*but now i have an update, it seems that the sim card stops being detected right before i actually fully slide the phone back in. for examplle, before the slide-in tone is played, and before the screen tilts back.
i already took it apart for a look inside, everything seems fine. and i dnt really know wht to look for.
Hi,
was reading about ur issue, just tought on jumping into the wagon, I suspect it might be the flex cable that connects the sim to the motherboard, if there is such cable, i haven't opened my kaiser yet but my Pioneer car radio has this flex cable issue when the drive is closed the screen turns on and the whole radio but as soon as you press eject (the face will scroll and unveil the cd slot) the radio actually turns off and i have to move the face back to its original position in order to work. At the end I took the flex cable out and 1/4 of it was teared, in the end I had to order a new part
thanks so much for your help. i guess there is nothing left to do but to take it all apart. somewhat blindly. at least i know what to look for. bad cables, contacts... im clueless as to whether it can be a bad grounding issue? or a short. i dnt know. i guess i may be the first one to experience a problem like this on a tilt.
so i will do my best to get this problem resolved. and maybe include some pictures if it is intereting enough
my tilt totally stopped recognizing the sim.. it first happened when i dropped it and had to keep it open to keep contact.. then i was sitting with it open and tilted up, it fell and closed somehow and now the sim isnt there at all... i guess something is disconnected or whatever, im afraid to take it apart, but its either that or a paper weight.
New Sim
I had a similar problem. My sim card would disappear on occasion then one day I woke up and no phone. Just an annoying sim card not installed message. Checked the phone by putting in a known working sim card and it was fine. Called ATT for a new sim card and now my phone is working. Try a new SIM CARD.
For the original poster -- that fact that it works when the keyboard is in one position but not the other indicates that it is likely a bad flex cable.
Agreed
Its most likely the cable. I used a new SIM, the extra pressure trick, cleaned contact, etc on mine yesterday, but the problem remained.
I got a used Tilt from Craigsliist , reusing the SIM and case, and it works great.
i wonder if anyone has bought this item before and if it works? upon research, i think our problem comes from the sim card flex and ribbon:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-P45...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item2a05bd88c4
It definitely comes form that ...but the repair cost is more than the replacement cost..so why bother with repairing it?
Hey, I'm having the same problem, my phone just out of the blue after a year of use says no sim card. My card is fine in other phones, and no cards work in my phone. I tried the pressure thing and cleaning the pins, but no good. My next option will be a hard reset/ wipe the phone and see if that clears the problem. I'm not optimistic after reading the thread. Did any one have luck with one of those Kaiser Flex Sim Card Slot Repair Parts that loller90278 mentioned? If so, I would rather spend $16 to fix a phone that has worked well up till now, rather than spend $100 on an unknown used phone. Still I don't want to bother if it's not going to work.
Thanks
well well...i'm going to have to join this "club" of affected kaiser users
my kaiser just started misbehaving last night. i bought it brand new exactly 1 year and 11 months ago
i took good care of it, barely ever tilted the screen during my almost 2 years of use. the current behavior is that when the keyboard is closed, the sim is hardly ever detected (1 out of 10 times perhaps). when the keyboard is opened, the sim is fairly regularly detected (9 out of 10 times perhaps).
i am not going to bother with investigating the possibility of a software problem because of my observations. given all the threads i've read about this issue, i am convinced my sim flex cable is either loose and/or broken.
anyway, it seems the kaiser's flex cable is just not built to last much longer than 2 years. if i can have it repaired for up to around $50, i'll go for it...if not, HD2 here i come!
ASCIIker said:
well well...i'm going to have to join this "club" of affected kaiser users
my kaiser just started misbehaving last night. i bought it brand new exactly 1 year and 11 months ago
i took good care of it, barely ever tilted the screen during my almost 2 years of use. the current behavior is that when the keyboard is closed, the sim is hardly ever detected (1 out of 10 times perhaps). when the keyboard is opened, the sim is fairly regularly detected (9 out of 10 times perhaps).
i am not going to bother with investigating the possibility of a software problem because of my observations. given all the threads i've read about this issue, i am convinced my sim flex cable is either loose and/or broken.
anyway, it seems the kaiser's flex cable is just not built to last much longer than 2 years. if i can have it repaired for up to around $50, i'll go for it...if not, HD2 here i come!
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just wanted to follow up on my own post above.
i just got my kaiser back. its been repaired
the dude cannibalized the main flex cable and sim assembly from a tilt and transplanted it into my tytn2. BUT! there has been an interesting side effect...because the tilt does not have a front cam, my guess is that its flex cable is unable to carry the signal of the front cam in the tytn2. so now my front cam is no longer detected. the camera app shows no icon to switch to another camera. the icon is blank!
i figured i could either have a kaiser with sim problems or a working kaiser with no front cam. i chose to keep the flex cable from the tilt because there is no 3G in my region and i hardly ever used the front camera otherwise.
long story short, my kaiser is back in business!
Similar problem !!!
Hello mate, .,. the problem in you case is the connecting ribbon between the keyboard that holds the sim card beneath it and the screen. I recommend u to replace the ribbon that connects. Its around 40 USD and that should do the trick.
Cheers !!!!!
Hi I had 6 months ago a second hand HTC tytn 2, has been working very well till last week. I been watching the movie on my phone which was stored on memory card (4GB SanDisk Micro SDhc). Then I deciced to put some more tunes on my phone... so I went downstairs first to get drink after I pluged phone to PC and I found out that somehow my HTC can't detect the card... So after 2h of taking card out and in I decided to reset the phone to producent setings. However that didn't helped i tried to download some kinds of ''sdhc fix drivers'' but its also didnt work. Today I woke up in the morning and I recognised that on my phone that sim card is missing... but is in the phone so I tried to clean up the place where sim card is ... I took card out and in few time as well but still nothing .... I reseted device to originals setings again but its failed as well... I was operating WM 6 and today i changed to WM 6.1 and I upgraded the radio to new ones because I was thinking that it may be the case.
Any advice because im quite noob.
Thanks
there are a few threads about similar issues...you can search for these threads to learn more information about your issue.
i can guide you about the possible cause. if you notice, BOTH of the items that are failing (SIM and memory card) are located in the top half of your device...the half that carries the screen and slides over to uncover the bottom half that has the keyboard.
this leads to a design that involves mechanical moving parts...and so there are "ribbon cables" that connect the various parts in the top half (SIM cradle, memory card cradle, front buttons, screen, touch pad, ear piece, notification LEDs) to the motherboard in the bottom half.
...and mechanical and moving parts often cause wear and tear and, eventually, these delicate ribbon cables can come loose or even break. my bet is that the cables for the SIM cradle and memory card cradle have become faulty. try to see if your device has better luck in detecting the SIM and/or memory card with the keyboard slide out.
also remember to search for other threads about such similar issues.
ASCIIker said:
there are a few threads about similar issues...you can search for these threads to learn more information about your issue.
i can guide you about the possible cause. if you notice, BOTH of the items that are failing (SIM and memory card) are located in the top half of your device...the half that carries the screen and slides over to uncover the bottom half that has the keyboard.
this leads to a design that involves mechanical moving parts...and so there are "ribbon cables" that connect the various parts in the top half (SIM cradle, memory card cradle, front buttons, screen, touch pad, ear piece, notification LEDs) to the motherboard in the bottom half.
...and mechanical and moving parts often cause wear and tear and, eventually, these delicate ribbon cables can come loose or even break. my bet is that the cables for the SIM cradle and memory card cradle have become faulty. try to see if your device has better luck in detecting the SIM and/or memory card with the keyboard slide out.
also remember to search for other threads about such similar issues.
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I too have similar problem with my TyTN II. First it started with the SD card detection problem followed by intermittent SIM card detection and recently the failing of the touch screen. My unit is coming to 2 years this March. The hardware is still in a very good condition as it is always protected with the phone pouch supplied.
Can the "ribbon cables" be replaced? My HTC agent in Singapore quoted me S$700 to replaced the mother board. They are telling me indirectly to buy a new phone instead. Their advise is very sad.
You can buy a new main flex cable on ebay for about £25-£30 GBP, possibly cheaper, it's a full disassembly job to fit it, you will need to be confident in your ability to completely dismantle the device and put it back together again.
As we all know, the phone is pretty darn well put together and surprisingly durable. But, unfortunately, it is not invincible. About a month and a half ago I cracked my screen. The phone had a case, but it wasn't anything hefty (the HTC Double Dip case). The phone was still completely usable, but I like the phone and wanted to keep it nice so I decided to replace the screen. I ordered the screen + framework assembly and it was about $55. In the past when I have replaced screens on a few iPhones and an ASUS tablet the parts were quite a bit cheaper, but whatever. My phone is the black model, but I decided to try something different and ordered the new part with red speaker grills. Most guides and such said that the M7 is a pretty hard phone to repair, but I have worked on a couple other phones before, so I gave it a go. After many, many hours of carefully prying apart the phone and transplanting the logic boards to the new screen framework I put it all back together and powered it up. To my surprise the phone powered up and the screen worked fine. (And let me tell you the red and black looks damn good). The first thing I noticed was that vibration didn't work. A bit annoying, but the phone looked good enough that I could get past that. Next I tested the speakers and noticed that at full volume the speakers sound a little bit messed up. Again, a little annoying, but I'm not a professional so I wasn't overly disappointed. Then came the real problem...
THE REAL PROBLEM:
When I put the SIM card in the phone didn't detect it. After a reboot it still didn't detect it. After a factory restore it still didn't detect it. Perhaps the ribbon cable connecting the SIM reader to the board was not all the way secured? After how hard it was to take the phone apart the first time I was not a fan of the idea of doing it again. But alas, the next day I opened the phone back up super carefully so not to damage the new parts. It was thankfully a little bit easier the second time. I made sure the SIM reader was all the way connected, but the phone still wouldn't read the SIM. I pulled the old SIM reader out from the old screen framework assembly and plugged it into the board, but the SIM was still not detected, indicating that the new screen did not come with a bad SIM reader. Has this problem happened to anyone else? What steps should I take? I now have really nice looking M7 that is essentially useless.
So does anyone have input on this?
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So does anyone have input on this?
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Same thing happened to me. Also swapped out the old reader without any luck.... Any update on this?
Does it detect it at all? Like ask for the pin code if you use that?
Do you have to disconnect the battery when replacing the screen on this phone? I know on some phones I repaired I had to manually set the current time and date (resets to year 1970 or something like that if you disconnect the battery) to get a signal.
Otherwise I have no idea
I bought a 7 plus from aliexpress, and upon arrival wifi would not stay turned on, and it doesn't recognise sim cards in either slot. Factory reset didn't help. I tried to return it, but it seems that couriers are unable to transport anything with a lithium battery to China. Gut instinct is hardware issue. Unless I can find a way around the courier issue, I'm wondering if it's cheaper and easier to just pay to have it repaired, or attempt it myself. I've replaced basic bits like screens, batteries, camera modules, charging ports in phones before, but I'm not sure how much would need replacing or how easy a fix it's likely to be? Whole motherboard? Connector unclipped? (wishful thinking!) Grateful for any advice