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Are there any bluetooth controllers currently compatible with the SGS?
I know I can use the Wii controller, but I don't have a Wii, so that idea probably isn't best.
Thanks in advance.
not really an answer to your post, but...presumably either way you'd also have to buy a Bluetooth controller so it's probably just as easy to pick up a Wii one?
I would prefer something a little more portable and cheaper if at all possible
From what i've seen, the Wiimote is not working on the i9000 yet.
Correct me if i'm wrong please. (And seriously, this time i want to be wrong)
If you can get a Wii controller working, shout me - I've been trying since I got my Galaxy with every different firmware/update combination - it's a no go at the moment.
Ryan Frawley replied to an email I sent saying it's down to samsung's bluetooth drivers being modified as compared to the standard Android drivers.
As I was writing this post, I checked my mail to look up Ryan's reply, and found a reply from Samsung to a mail I sent a few days ago (last friday I think). I will post the conversation in it's entirety here, I hope the employees at Samsung do not mind, as I do quote this without permission:
Hello, and thank you for your time.
I have a question regarding connection of HID devices and, in particular, the WiiMote (Nintendo) to the phone, through applications available through Google Market.
Applications (such as 'Wii Controller IME' from Ryan Frawley) using bluetooth to cennect to certain HID devices appear to be unable to connect to the bluetooth drivers (the application fails to connect, and does not appear to be able to get as far as searching for the device).
Are there any plans to update/fix the bluetooth drivers to address this issue in upcoming firmware updates?
Does the upcoming Android 2.2 (FroYo) update address the issue, and should we so wait until the release of the 2.2 update?
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Reply:
With regard to youremail, these are questions that need to be
redirected to Android, as we do not make the applications that connect
to the Wii-mote, and also have no information on the Froyo upgrade.
I hope this has been of someassistance to you. If you do have any
further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us quoting your 210-
reference number.
Kind Regards
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My reply:
hank you for your reply to ref# XXXXXXXXXX.
I will try and contact Android customer service to expand on the query, but I have some more questions I would like to ask to clarify the situation:
- you state that Android is responsible for the applications which connect to the Wii remote. However, the Android version which is installed on the Galaxy will have been researched and developed by Samsung's own technicians.
The applications on the market are capable of connecting to the Wii remotes (and other bluetooth devices) on other Android devices - yet all applications have issues connecting through the bluetooth drivers on the Galaxy. Indeed, I have yet to find even a standard HID device which connects to the Galaxy successfully.
By it's very nature, Android is open sourced - anyone with technical know how should be able to view the internal workings of the operating system and (often in an attempt to fix problems like this) edit the underlying files.
It appears that the bluetooth drivers (along with all hardware drivers on the Galaxy), as supplied by Samsung are not open sourced. Nor do they adhere to the standards which applications on the Android market are able to connect to bluetooth.
This in turn points at problems with the Galaxy, and/or it's bluetooth drivers, which are, of course, designed and supplied by Samsung.
Please, if possible, can this issue be escalated to a technical team - I understand the issues of getting a problem raised within a multinational company; I work for one myself and deal with such issues on a daily basis.
I would greatly appreciate your help in dealiing with this issue, and getting help in raising it to the correct team/department to have the issue resolved, if it is at all possible.
Again, thank you for your time,
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As usual, I don't expect much to come from this to be honest - my previous experience with this kind of query tells me that it'll get shoved under the carpet relatively quickly.
We'll probably be waiting until a proper Cyanogen ROM turns up, or someone gets either Ryan Frawley to patch up the application side (though I'd much rather the bluetooth drivers were standardised to begin with).
PS: Anyone tried a zeemote, mini bluetooth keyboard yet? I'm tempted to throw £30 or so on a keyboard/zeemote combo but I would like to know if it's something that will work out of the box or not.
I feel the need to bump this thread, since I'm so in need of this functionality.
Well, I got an update from Samsung. This sounds very promising, I hope they follow through with what they've told me:
Thank you for contacting Samsung Electronics regarding your mobile phone.
Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay in responding to your enquiry.
With regard to your email, this issue has been passed to our development team and has been raised with Head
Office as well. There is a solution in development and will be forthcoming shortly.
Please keep checking the website for updates on this issue.
I hope this has been of some assistance to you.
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Raised with Head Office? Hmmm...
What about connecting a PS3 official keypad (the one you attach to the PS3 controller) to the SGS? It would be useful to use in games like Quake 2 and 3, that need a physical keyboard to play. Has anyone done this? I have tried and have been unable to get it working.
The SGS can see the keypad, can pair, asks for the password but fails to connect.
AlexandreT said:
What about connecting a PS3 official keypad (the one you attach to the PS3 controller) to the SGS? It would be useful to use in games like Quake 2 and 3, that need a physical keyboard to play. Has anyone done this? I have tried and have been unable to get it working.
The SGS can see the keypad, can pair, asks for the password but fails to connect.
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Did you try this? www.appbrain.com/app/com.mymobilegear
AlexandreT said:
What about connecting a PS3 official keypad (the one you attach to the PS3 controller) to the SGS? It would be useful to use in games like Quake 2 and 3, that need a physical keyboard to play. Has anyone done this? I have tried and have been unable to get it working.
The SGS can see the keypad, can pair, asks for the password but fails to connect.
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That's the problem with most devices - the SGS will see the device and it's MAC address when scanning, but won't connect. Usually "0000" gives a very quick refusal, where anything else (the only way I've found to enter a blank PIN is to enter a digit then delete it) gives a rather long wait with "Connecting" then a message telling you it failed to connect.
Most 3rd party apps don't work either, though I've had success with the GamePro app NZTechFreak used - it's the only app I've found on the SGS up to now that does work with bluetooth. I'm pretty confident KeyPro from the same company would work, but I don't have a compatible keyboard to test.
Up to now, i've tried:
Wii remote/classic controller (original) - SGS sees controller, will not pair
Bluetooth "I-Tom" keyboard (ebay) - Despite coming with android drivers, does not work. Same symptoms as other controllers, third party app does not detect nor connect to controller.
Datel Wii Classic Controller - same as Wii controller
Zeemote - Works with GamePro drivers. Zeemote does not pair directly with SGS, it's all handled through the GamePro IME drivers/settings
I'd like to see if a PS3 controller pairs successfully, but from what you've said I doubt it very much
e: The app in the post above only has support for some very specific keyboards. By all means try it, I tried each one on my itom keyboard but nothing worked.
SquidgyB said:
Well, I got an update from Samsung. This sounds very promising, I hope they follow through with what they've told me:
Raised with Head Office? Hmmm...
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Have you got any update on this?
I am also wondering. I have been trying to pair a bluetooth mouse with no luck.
ei0haro said:
Have you got any update on this?
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Heh - nope. 'Fraid not.
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Samsung has released 2.2 but still does not work.
Samsung has also released the source for many of their phones.
http ://opensource.samsung.com
It would be great to get this fixed.
Jim
jim0watters said:
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Samsung has released 2.2 but still does not work.
Samsung has also released the source for many of their phones.
http ://opensource.samsung.com
It would be great to get this fixed.
Jim
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apparantly latest cyanogenmod7 for SGS works with wiimote
I might start using it after the cameras are fully working and a few other bugs fixed.
oswade said:
apparantly latest cyanogenmod7 for SGS works with wiimote
I might start using it after the cameras are fully working and a few other bugs fixed.
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Yahh it does work ;D I wonder if there's a way we can build a samsung kernel with the bluetooth modules from cyanogenmod? Hopefully the cameras are fixed soon this is a showstopper bug for me atm
Hi all, I'd like to ask here, whether anyone has succeeded in getting the bluetooth tethering going.
I'm using Samsung Galaxy S, currently the Darky's 7.5 ROM and I've had so far no luck getting it going other way than via USB. I was trying the TetherBlu app, but it was not able to create a PAN interface and always crashed with this "Cannot create connection: unknown interface" (or something like that).
Then I tried the PdaNet, the USB connection works pretty nice, but the bluetooth DUN seems impossible to get on JPY software, on JPU I was able to get the connection always some time after pairing, but next day all was gone and in order to get a connection, I had to pair the devices again.
So my question is, can someone recommend me an app, ROM, fix or whatever, which would get me a working bluetooth tethering, like e. g. on iPhone?
Thank you all!
Hi all, I'd like to ask here, whether anyone has succeeded in getting the bluetooth tethering going.
I'm using Samsung Galaxy S, currently the Darky's 7.6 ROM and I've had so far no luck getting it going other way than via USB. I was trying the TetherBlu app, but it was not able to create a PAN interface and always crashed with this "Cannot create connection: unknown interface" (or something like that).
Then I tried the PdaNet, the USB connection works pretty nice, but the bluetooth DUN seems impossible to get on JPY software, on JPU I was able to get the connection always some time after pairing, but next day all was gone and in order to get a connection, I had to pair the devices again.
So my question is, can someone recommend me an app, ROM, kernel, fix or whatever, which would get me a working bluetooth tethering, like e. g. on iPhone?
Thank you all!
I'm looking to understand what options exist for tethering the NC to a phone for data. I believe the only method currently supported is by creating an ad-hoc wifi network using software on the phone, and joining this network from the NC.
I have a Blackberry 9700, which cannot be setup as a wifi hotspot. With the release of CM7 build 17, it sounds like Bluetooth works (with limited range). My phone supports Bluetooth tethering because I've set it up with my Windows 7 laptop. I'm curious to find out whether this will be possible with the NC as well.. if not, what other options are there for getting online with my NC (besides having to purchase a phone that has hotspot capability). I used to use PDANet with a Palm Treo back in the day.. I'm also not opposed to physical cable-tethering if this is a possibility.
Thanks in advance.
I would like to know this as well. My Evo is not rooted and I'd like to keep it that way for now, so my only options are PDAnet via physical cable and bluetooth (which I can utilize on CM7 but it breaks wifi) or Easytether (physical).
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I would like to know this as well. My Evo is not rooted and I'd like to keep it that way for now, so my only options are PDAnet via physical cable and bluetooth (which I can utilize on CM7 but it breaks wifi) or Easytether (physical).
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So are you confirming that you've got Bluetooth tethering working with your phone using CM7? Does the build break wifi permanently, or is it only during BT tethering?
Haven't tried it yet but now that you mention it.. I'm going to try it!
Excellent, can't wait to hear the results..
Will pair, won't connect
Well, that takes that option out of the running. I really prefer a physical connection though, and so far, I haven't seen any micro-micro (assuming this is because of power requirements anyway).
Even with the phone right next to the NC? That's disappointing.. by micro-micro, are you referring to the type of USB cable needed? I don't have the device yet, so I'm not sure what kind of connections it has available. Tethering over BT is the last feature I'm waiting for before pulling the trigger on this bad boy. I plan to use it as a removable CarPC (using my phone for data and an external Bluetooth receiver for GPS).
Yup right next to it. Now, I've seen some guys report that GPS works though via bluetooth and I plan on trying that next (need to charge my BT receiver.. hope the battery still works!). They said you needed a GPS app to fix your location though.
As for micro-micro, yep USB. But then we would probably need a client side app to be able to recognize that kind of connection.
And wifi seems broken with BT ENABLED (not on, just enabled).. going to revert.
Thanks for doing all that testing. Let me know how the pairing goes with your GPS receiver.. if you get that working, you would need GPS software that has all of the maps built-in (since Google Maps, etc, requires a data connection).
My primary use for the NC will be as a car PC, so the only thing holding me back is the Bluetooth tethering with my Blackberry (uses the Dial-Up Networking feature set).
I've been hoping to BT DUN working for my BB 9700 also. At the moment it appears that ppp needs to be enabled in the kernel for this to work. When I run pppd from the comand line it complains about ppp missing from the kernel.
It looks like the pppd program is being compiled with the CM7 build and that the ppp modules can be found in the kernel sources so there is hope. We could ask to have it added as a dynamic module but I not sure how to go about making the request. (I am a noob to the forums and not allowed post in Dev and there may be a another way to make requested that is preferred in any case. )
I also found this program that claims to set up a BT DUN connection via ppp and it does run without faulting on my NC:
android.gval.biz
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I found a post in the developers forum where someone asked how to do the same thing. The link in the response discusses how to get Bluetooth GPS and WiFi tethering to work, but it does not mention Bluetooth tethering to a phone. Unfortunately, I don't have enough posts under my name to respond to that thread, but I've subscribed to it in the hopes that someone else will point it out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12282264&postcount=281
Same same same same.
Unrooted Evo and although I am having fun with all the great things we can do to our NC's I am really not ready to root my Evo just yet. Having that phone with me is the only reason I am able to walk away from my keyboard at all and just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I run Fedora on my laptop and can tether to my Evo using Azilink and USB cable without a problem but if I wanted to drag my lappie everywhere then the NC wouldn't be any fun atall!
Weird is when we can pair the Evo and the NC via Bluetooth (yes a few inches apart right now) but neither one wants to do the actual connection. The message pops up on both Evo and NC asking to acknowledge the "secret" code and what else to do but say yes to them both. Then they both try and fail to connect.
I guess there is a fix for AdHoc on CM7 but I am not sure how to get the unrooted Evo to create an AdHoc network for the NC to connect to. If anyone has that answer can you let us know? I will keep searching as well.
Deirdre
I am currently running SlimBean 4.2.2, build JDQ39E.
Been trying unsuccessfully to sync my PS3's wireless controller to my phone, and none of the apps I have tried have worked.
Does anyone know one that does, or if there is another ROM that supports PS3 controllers, specifically?
Thanks for any assistance.
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I am currently running SlimBean 4.2.2, build JDQ39E.
Been trying unsuccessfully to sync my PS3's wireless controller to my phone, and none of the apps I have tried have worked.
Does anyone know one that does, or if there is another ROM that supports PS3 controllers, specifically?
Thanks for any assistance.
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Its not the ROM I believe the phones hardware is not supportive.
I thought that MIGHT be the case, too, but I figured if anyone knew a workaround, it would be this community. I can get it to recognize my PS3 controller, but it refuses to sync.
I'd think that as long as it accepted any old Bluetooth connection, that I should be able to sync almost any Bluetooth device. Meh.
ReikiDraven said:
I thought that MIGHT be the case, too, but I figured if anyone knew a workaround, it would be this community. I can get it to recognize my PS3 controller, but it refuses to sync.
I'd think that as long as it accepted any old Bluetooth connection, that I should be able to sync almost any Bluetooth device. Meh.
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It might connect but were not running the latest drivers like the most high end devices