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I have a tilt with the HTC factory rom flashed on it. Everything has worked fine for the past few months, until I tried to use my tomtom software a few days ago. For some reason, it couldn't get a gps fix. Then, when I exited, everything froze up.
Now whenever ANYTHING accesses the gps functionality, it can't find a fix, and when I exit, nothing else will launch, and I'll have to do a soft reset. Everything else works fine unless I try and use the gps. What the hell!
Any insight?
You might need to hard reset or flash a new rom. This sounds similar to another problem recently sorted - try starting at this link.
I just did that 2 days ago! The only thing i installed was kaisertweak and tomtom! Nothing worked. So I tried installing other gps crap to see if that would work. So far, nothing.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a rom issue, because it didn't work AT ALL following a hard reset. :-/
Try another hard reset, but don't install anything other than TomTom (even KaiserTweak). If that doesn't work, then you need to contact AT&T for a replacement under warranty. Although that could be a problem if you are on T-Mobile like your profile says...
ok, so I reflashed AGAIN. And it didn't do much. However, it's not crashing anymore. Even though it's not crashing anymore, i'm still not able to get a gps fix. :-/ What now?
InGeNeTiCs said:
ok, so I reflashed AGAIN. And it didn't do much. However, it's not crashing anymore. Even though it's not crashing anymore, i'm still not able to get a gps fix. :-/ What now?
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Try flashing a new radio. Radios seem to have a direct relation to how fast (or slow) the Kaiser's GPS chip will get a fix.
Um how about trying another gps program.
ChumleyEX said:
Um how about trying another gps program.
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GPStest, tomtom, google maps, and live maps can't get a fix.
And I'm already on my 3rd radio. The first one worked fine, then it just stopped working. No new software, no rom changes, nothing. It just didn't work one day. Is there a way I can run some sort of diagnostic to check the functionality of the gps hardware itself?
InGeNeTiCs said:
GPStest, tomtom, google maps, and live maps can't get a fix.
And I'm already on my 3rd radio. The first one worked fine, then it just stopped working. No new software, no rom changes, nothing. It just didn't work one day. Is there a way I can run some sort of diagnostic to check the functionality of the gps hardware itself?
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Does Tomtom report:
"No GPS Device" or "No valid GPS signal"?
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With GPS test what port does it say it's using?
(ie without you changing it what does it initially say for the port?)
Mike
hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
regards,
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Dragilla
It think it has nothing to do with the hardSPL but u could try olinex 1.93
For roms, try swiftBLs or maybe christonges ct.
dragilla said:
hi there,
I have my diamond for almost a week now. On the first day everything worked fine. The gps got a fix, took it a while but it worked. On the second day of playing with it i decided i wanted to try a cooked rom.
I installed hardSPL (oliNex 1.40) and then tried dyttys 1.8 rom. All worked fine except for the GPS. It wasn't even finding it (the nav soft nor the gps test tool).
So i upraded the radio to 08 (in duttys rom it's 07). Same thing.
Next thing was installing panosha's shine on 1.5 rom (including radio 08).
Then i actually managed to see the gps, but it couldn't get a fix. So i tried radio 05. The gps was found but no fix... after hard reset once i got a fix, which took really long time, like 5-10 minutes. After next reboot nothing... Even the gps was not seen by the apps.
Now I'm on panosha's shine on 1.6 (still radio 05). Now the apps can see the gps, but it won't fix.
What to do? Try another hardspl? try another rom? try another radio? maybe try some tweaks?
Or maybe the gps is broken? But it worked!
Help me out please guys.
regards,
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Dragilla
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Well well well, there seems to be some problem...
I have exactly the same: no GPS fix but still seeing the sats, then no sats anymore.
I installed Dutty's 1.8 too yesterday and after that CT's.
Now back to a stock ROM including Stock SPL, but no GPS anymore...
I'm afraid I have to send my device for repair.
What do we have in common? We both flashed Dutty's 1.8, we both changed radio's (I went from .08 to .05).
Are there more victims out there???
look here... i will try this now
Don't know how about you... but it worked for me. ..at least for now. I got a fix.
Try it - soft reset your gps!
regards,
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dragilla
After every ROM flash, you need to cold boot your GPS.
This is why the first time you have to wait 5-10 minutes to get a fix.
You can always use HTC GPS Tool or any similar app to cold boot.
ok, it helped only for a while. I then installed skype, google maps, maybe something else, synced with outlook and now gps cannot be found. Even by htc_gps_tool. It now says "failed to send NMEA command".
GPS Test scans ports and stops at com4 (this is the gps port)... and nothing happens. Hard reset of the device does not help.
Any ideas? Just 1h ago gps seemed to work
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Dragilla
Do you have AGPS enabled? If so, disable it.
I WOULD recommend to start everything from the beginning:
1: flash a radio (.08)
2: flash a vanilla ROM (DON'T install anything else apart from HTC GPS tool)
3: Try getting a fix with this setup. We'll then know if it's a hardware problem or just your fiddling.
So don't touch the hardspl? If it works it works and i shouldn't change it?
What do you mean by "a vanilla rom". Any rom with vanilla=tflo3d? If so, what if this rom has radio in it (dytty's 1.8 has radio 07).
ps: how to change agps setting? I used pocket toolman now... had to install it... and guess what: agps was off. I turned in on rebooted and turned it off again. Didn't help.
Thanx for the interest in my problem Awaiting further instructions.
regards,
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Dragilla
I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol
skrap3 said:
I have tested a bit this night. Flashed duttys 1.8, tried and it works, installed loads of apps and tried again and there it is, no gps fix.
I did a hard reset and flashed the .05 radio and then swiftBLs 6.0 lite rom. Nothing, no gps fix. Did another hard reset and flashed an official rom, and it works normal. Another hard reset and back to swiftBLs rom and got no problems.
atm i´m so lol
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Just did the same you did (flash to an official ROM, including stock SPL, so everything back to the original state. Still no more GPS fix. GPSTest gives a few low signals but not enought for fix. Tried it outside for half an hour.
My device goed back for repair.
I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that
I had the same prob. And even when i had a fix it loses the fix and then it fixed agian so on and so on. Had it with igo8 and tom tom 7 and a smal program to see gps reception.
I switched back to radio .05 and used rom sc (skippycentraal) v2.8 (dutch language, is perfect for me cause i'm from holland )
I't works perfect, in about 20 to 30 sec outside getting a fix.
sometimes i'll even get a fix indoors
I think its a problem with the roms with the new radios, but the reason for the gps problems itself is affected by some applications.
Ummm a bit worrying..... I must admit after frying my Hermes with a new radio and then my Polaris after flashing a compatable radio from another device I´m a little vary now. I´ve stuck with .05 for a while now and I´ve been flashing between 5-10 times a day for the last few weeks and TomTom has been fixing everytime no issues whatsoever.
dragilla said:
I'm sure soft reset of gps would help.
I just did new radio flash + new rom flash + soft reset of gps and it worked.
The I was installing my packages + configuring my device doing reboot after each small change to see if gps still works. It stopped working after installing win6voip.cab
Will try again to verify that
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how do you softreset GPS???
Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
regards,
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Dragilla
dragilla said:
Use htc gps tool. Use function->chip->Q7200, set baud rate and port and click "open port". Next use function->set mode->cold start and get outside for 10 minutes with the device configured not to shut down/go to sleep (power settings). It should get a fix.
Back to my case: I flashed again and did the gps cold start. Then installed all the stuff I wanted + configured everything checking if gps is still getting a fix after each install/reboot. It still does. Ofcourse this time I did not install win6voip.cab. So I guess this package was the one "spoiling" my gps.
Will try to tweak my voip in win manually tomorrow. Hope it works because I have a SIP account I would like to use on my diamond.
regards,
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Dragilla
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Also did that, no fix... GPS definitely is broken, back to repair.
GPS no signal
God damn it...
everyone keeps flashing ROMs etc and I thought it was safe, I have exactly the same problem as pietrucci
and now I read that flashing everything back to stock doesn't fix the GPS ...
that REALLY PISSES ME OFF
there seems to be no information on how to properly "restart" the GPS so to make it work.
also from a technical point of view, how can you possibly "break" the GPS by installing hardSPL and another ROM, without even touching the Radio?
this problem better get a fix somehow and lets hope we (me, pietrucci and evilskanker) are able to fix it, or I will stop flashing untested **** altogether. it's fun as long as it works, but if someone reports a problem that is suddenly an exception, then things start to get quite a bit less safe as you see!
just my 2 cents.
Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.
sepa said:
Hi.
I don't know how Qualcomm GPS works, but users of Eten X650 are having same problem. (My previos phone was X650, SirfStarIII) After some reflashing GPS is broken. We make it working by dispacing battery from phone for 36 hr. So all GPS settings were reset. Someone ever short-circuit contacts of battery on the phone for this time. Try this if everything didn't help before going to service.
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Ok, I'm wiling to try everything. I'll leave the battery out for some days.
What do you mean by short-circuit the battery contacts, just hold a piece of iron on the phone contacts? Or do something with the battery itself? Doesn't that damage the device or battery?
By the way: I'm can't tell for sure my broken GPS was caused by flashing. But it was right after my last flash (Dutty v1.8) that is was dead. Everything I did after that (flashing to other ROMS, to stock ROMS, hardresets, GPS resets) was to try to get life in my GPS. But as you know now, without any effect.
All in all I believe it has to do with flashing but not 100% sure...
I'm experiencing what i think is a sudden dead of the gps. 2 Days ago i went went on a trip using tomtom and when i wanted to go back 4 hours later i couldn't get a fix. This happens to me now and then and the solution for this is a softreset.
I tried a soft reset 3 times but nothing changed. Then i went in tomtom's gps setting menu and i didn't see any grey or other collered satelite indicators. But the orange led is showing so the hardware is turned on and the phone also get warm as normal when using gps.
Even GpsTest can't find any satelites.
I really don't understand what happend because i didn't play with any of the settings what so ever.
I've now tried a couple of thing to get gps to work again but nothing helped
1. Did a hard reset.
2. changed spl
3. changed Radio
4. Changes Rom
Now what else could i do to make it work again because i need it very hard for my work. I'm a driving instructer in the netherlands and my students may need te use navigation on their exam. But the must use it during lessons to get acquainted.
My Setup:
HardSpl 3.29
Radio 1.65.24.36
Rom L26 KaiserDiamond Throttle Launcher Beta 6
I've had my Tomtom misbehave on a couple of occasions even with a standard HTC ROM/setup. The last time it happened I hard reset the device, reinstalled Tomtom Navigator 6.032 and it worked fine but as you've already tried a hard reset (presumably after the Radio upgrade - if not, try) all I can suggest is to check your Radio and Rom are listed as being compatible and to try it out, while still in an open field, immediately after manually downloading the QuickGPS update and a soft reset.
GPSGate can jump start your GPS receiver. I had this problem when I was running alex's rom. I thought my GPS died unless I ran GPSGate. Now I flashed to Garmin DK3final ROM with 1.65.20.29 radio I can use TOMTOM without using GPSGate.
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GPSGate can jump start your GPS receiver. I had this problem when I was running alex's rom. I thought my GPS died unless I ran GPSGate. Now I flashed to Garmin DK3final ROM with 1.65.20.29 radio I can use TOMTOM without using GPSGate.
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I don't understand it. Really
TomTom and GpsTest can't get a cold-fix on it's own anymore. But i found by coincidence that cold starting with Google maps works perfectly. And the TomTom an GpsTest also work without problems. So it seems like the same thing you described with GPSGate.
It's still weird that it happened so suddenly wile it was working perfect before. But i will try Garmin DK3final ROM as well and see what happens.
Thanks for the help
So I've had my diamond for a about year now. Tried dozens of roms and settled for the mystery rom. (for those who don't know, mystery rom utilizes wm 6.5 with Touch Pro 2 Manila interface). I also have quickGPS updated every week or so.
Google maps and tomtom have been working flawlessly with the GPS up to about a couple days ago. Now I've been having problems with both programs (and probably any programs that uses the GPS) finding my location and freezing my phone.
So with google maps, what would happen is that I would tap "use GPS" and it would track my location in a few seconds. Then what happens is the blue dot with the direction arrow would turn into just a blue dot without the arrow. This is probably when the GPS suddenly fails and my location isn't being tracked anymore (sometimes this would freeze google maps and sometimes my whole phone and I would need to do a soft reset).
When it doesn't freeze, the GPS would not work until I do a soft reset and the same thing happens when I try again.
Same with Tomtom. It would say "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" (meaning that it recognizes the GPS device) and then after a couple seconds it would stay on "No GPS Found" and it would just stay like that.
Now, is this a hardware problem? even though it's happening pretty consistantly and I would think that it wouldn't work at all if it was something with the GPS hardware.
If it's a software problem, the only significant thing I've done since last week is install memmaid and delete some old files/caches. Could this affect my GPS at all if I accidently some specific old/temporary files?
If anyone has any insight into my problem, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Getting lost is not fun
Thanks!!
hi,
yap same problem here. i use a win6.5 rom and got this problem.
only a soft reset gives me a working gps - after 1 use (close program, open again) it freezes again and i have to soft reset again
any solutions??
HTC-GPS-Tool
Use the HTC_GPS_TOOL
The cab and instruction can be found here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3749102&postcount=86
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Xperia X1 freeze. After 6 months I have problem with my xperia and gps. When I try to use internal GPS (whenever software), display freeze and I have to replace batery. I have tryied to flash another ROM, it works few hours and now I have same problem. Any ideas?
Hi,ok let´s see, like you ive had the same problem, just when i was using any gps navigator the phone suddendly stopped and that was sucking me a lot so after that i started to think what could be the problem, and at the end after a lot of time i found where was the problem and what was the solution. To find the solution i decided to hard reset the new rom with which all my gps problems started, and following the instalation steps of all programs and configurations i found the problem and this was related with the quick gps, before using this program to upgrade my gps location my mobile was runing tomtom and others without freezing, but after upgrade the gps location with the quick gps my mobile started to freeze. So this is the problem, just do this try to hard-reset and install eveything but dont, i repeat dont !!use the quick gps or this will freeze your phone again. Following this step your phone will run the gps navigators without the freeze problem
Then men after this try to do this and let me know (PLEAE) if your problem still remain ok? see u and hope you can solve this problem like me.
I too have just started having GPS problems as listed above!
The problem seems to be Quickgps...as soon as u run the quickgps update(which you may have on autodownload) Tomtom crashes and you have to reboot the phone...
I have reinstalled a different rom since and still have the same problem!
i dont know if there is a cache for this program that can be cleared or something other than reflashing the device
As the days go on and the 7 day update starts running out im guessing more people will start having the same problems!mine happened 28/10/09 evening time!
Same problem: freezing XPERIA when using GPS!
Yesterday I connected my X1 to the PC and got the latest Quick GPS update. Today I'll need to use my gps for a trip... Wanted to prepare the navigator and got the same problem like you guys.
Probably something wrong with the last update since I have not installed anything nor updated the firmware.
Is there any way to get any older version of the quick gps? Before after each 7 days period, it was possible still to use the GPS. Even though it was much slower but in the end it always works before updating... Will a hard reset give me an old version of Quick GPS?
This is so annoying at this moment. Hope somebody find a solution fast.
Hi all,
Got the very same problem yesterday.
I tought the GPS HW had gone. I have uninstalled the Route 66 SW, but there are some files that still lay in the phone.
Then re-install everything from scracth, but problem remains. Now i know i a GPS. Could be worse if was a HW problem in the phone.
Possible solution
Hi
I have maybe same problem with other phone (HTC Rose). If any application try to connect to GPS, phone freezes. After Hard Reset it was OK, but only until I use QuickGPS. Then it again freeze whole mobile after use GPS application.
My temporary solution:
1.
Erase QuickGPS data. Simply delete 2 files: Temp\xtra.bin and Windows\xtra.bin
2.
Soft Reset phone.
Try it, and let me know.
working so far...
Thank you motaba.
I did what you proposed and erased the files. It worked actually.
I have been running my gps now for some minutes and it did not freeze. It found the signal and started to navigate without freezing.
So at first glance it seems to work. I will try it further and tell you all about further information.
but how can the gps work so fast and well without these quickgps files? are they totally redundant?
Greetings
Thanks a lot motaba.
Works for me as well.
As yes, it got the location pretty fast without the "A GPS mambojambo"
I was gettin 8-9 statelites.
P.S: Anyone can tell me were to get TomTom 7 for X1 ? Route 66 is pretty anoying some times....
X1 GPS
After deleting the fails xtra.bin my gps start to work for now, but I want to ask do I have to use quickGPS update if I update the gps from there the problem will be start again
Yes delete xtra.bin helps!!!
Does anyone has older version of quick gps. I still want to use quick gps, becasus waiting for gps to fix is annoying. thanks
Hi all,
After deleting the xtra files and confirm that works i went out, and during the driving i used the GPS.
Even went going out of the car and switching GPS programm off, as soon as i got back into the car and switch programm on, the GPS location came so quick that was unbeleivable. Only time to switch it on , put it into the older start the car and when i look into it, was already navigating.
So my advice is FORGET about Quick GPS.
I think ESA as lunched a new GPS satellite for the European system, I wonder if has anything to do with with it. ??? Anyway it's great !!!
No, ESA satellites are not primary GPS satellites. They provide WAAS/EGNOS correction info only. AFAIK Xperia does not support correction, so it does not work with these satellites at all.
The problem could be with QuickGPS data. Many users started to have the problem at the same time. It seems xperia uses QuickGPS if they are available. So any corruption on QuickGPS side makes GPS unusable.
Sometimes just forced QuickGPS reload helps .. but sometimes not, and that's when the trick with xtra.bin comes handy.
Thank you all in this awesome forum. Deleting the xtra.bin files solved the problem for me. Even the time to log the gps position seems not really to be slower in my case
Hi Dr Sid
Thanks for the explanation.
My point was that the xtra.bin removal works, and after i did that the GPS position was found very very quickly without starting Quick GPS.
I wonder why because, before it would take 10 minutes or more, if quick GPS was not used.
Summer time change?
Hi
I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"
THANKYOU SO MUCH!!
This has been driving me crazy!! I have only just learned to put ROM's on my phone and this is when the problems started, so I suspected the ROM's was causing the problem.
Deleted the 2 files and now my GPS works perfectly.
Excellent fix, saved me so much time.
THANKS THANKS THANKS !!!!!!
Works for me too (Buenos Aires - Argentina).
motaba said:
Hi
I was wondering what is wrong with xtra.bin. It is downloaded from web server xtra1.gpsonextra.net or simmilar.
In my country (Slovakia) at 24-25.10. there was time change from summer time CEST (GMT+2) to CET (GMT+1). Maybe it is some dependance between change of time and GPS problem.
Wiki says same time change is all over Europe.
All of you with same problem, please check registry, what servers are set in QuickGPS. My phone is HTC, so registry are there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS\0\0]
"port"=dword:00000050
"IP"="xtra1.gpsonextra.net"
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It's very probable that this is the problem, since I have it since a few days also. But it's strange, last time change I had no problems with it.
hehe, a bit slow to find this thread
yep the quickgps data is corrupt somehow.
took me a lot of reboots to find this out.
A-GPS still works just try running google maps with GPS turned OFF!! you get a rough idea of where your are.
QuickGPS gives a weeks calcutions of predicted GPS satalite locations which can then be used to reduce the cold-boot gps startup time.
If you live near the coast at all, your GPS chip will also pickup the land based stations that broadcast static information which helps in the accuacy of location.
It is quite possible to live without QuickGPS, it just makes the startup time anything upto 2 minutes.
However, with quickgps being used for so many phones, it should not be too long before its all fixed again
It's just pity it can't be disabled by some normal means. If you delete the file, QuickGPS will load it back next week.
Also it could try to compare data from the file with data from the satellite. If different satellites are visible than those which should be visible based on the file, than GPS could realize something is wrong. It does not.