Assuming USB hub functionality is present on the HD2, does anyone know if standard USB devices (e.g.generic keyboards or standard USB memory sticks) could be used on HD2 without having to install special drivers?
I'd like to know this to!
And like the G02, can I use a gamepad on this baby?
Given that USB host isn't supported how do you expect the device to have the drivers for it?
According to various reviews I've seen, USB host is supported.
sent them a mail
hello, just a quick question regarding the new HTC HD2,
does is "support" USB host, i.e can I plug in ,say, a USB memory stick (Generic devices)?
best regards
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lets see how fun the answer will be...
Well, there are no drivers for peripherals in the leaked ROMs, no official information, nothing that would really indicate USB host support. It may be enabled somehow via hacks, but that would certainly mean that drivers need to be installed separately.
got a reply from HTC today;
"It doesn't support"
thats a shame really, hoped it would have... no TV out and no usb host, that sucked
how would it work to extract the host drivers from another device?
Could they be used on the HD?
(I think not after what I have read, but it just might work)
may be you can try thoses drivers :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and some proper cabe because you may have to add a input power cable and see if it works and tell us
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With this whole driver controversy and HTC not paying for Qualcomm drivers, I was wondering if USB OTG was left out on the Kaiser but not on the KS20. Can any KS20 owner please check if USB OTG works on
the KS20. I really miss not having the ability to directly transfer files from my flash drive to the phone.
Thanks
P.S. Checking the KS20 rom dump, there is a file named msm7200otg.dll that is NOT on the Kaiser. This could get interesting.
Bump: Am I the only one who cares about this?
maybe nobody has a ks20, im interested too in this, but im not a ks20 owner so i cant help...
Unlike graphics, I believe USB OTG would require different hardware to work. The Kaiser would have to have the hardware necessary to supply a certain amount of power to the USB port, as well as the ability to be a USB host. I would not get your hopes up.
AFAIK the port isnt capable of USB hosting. So its a no go.
I know, thet you can use KS20 like USB-Stick.
But i dont think it have one USB-Host.
If you want, you can find KS20 Service Manuals (was here some were) and look there, if it is possible with this hardware.
VidMan said:
With this whole driver controversy and HTC not paying for Qualcomm drivers, I was wondering if USB OTG was left out on the Kaiser but not on the KS20. Can any KS20 owner please check if USB OTG works on
the KS20. I really miss not having the ability to directly transfer files from my flash drive to the phone.
Thanks
P.S. Checking the KS20 rom dump, there is a file named msm7200otg.dll that is NOT on the Kaiser. This could get interesting.
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msm7200otg.dll ?
that sounds promising
The plot thickens...
Well, I just got hold of a KS20 service manual and I found some relevant information about the USB functions of the KS20.
Interpret these as you want:
Page 28 of the service manual: USB-OTG transceiver for full-speed (12 Mb/s) and low-speed (1.5 Mb/s) interfacing of the MSM device to
computers as a USB peripheral, or connecting the MSM device to other peripherals
-I wonder what other peripherals are?
Page 35: USB OTG core supports both slave and limited host functionality.
-I believe here's our answer!
Ok, so at least we now know that USB OTG can be implemented. However, I have absolutely no idea how, or if, we can get this to work on the Kaiser.
Some food for thought.
I have the LG KS20 for 3 weeks now and am happy so far with all its functions working flawlessly. As usual with Windwos Mobile it needs Softresets from time to time. Annoying is the fact that it doesn`t show the SDmicro card or its content unless you perform a soft reset - every time !?
USB HOST function:
it is possible to use the LG KS20 in that way ONLY: it will allow you just to exchange data with/from the inserted SDmicro card in the phone - nothing else !
So definetely no full USB Host support here.
THX
ombuddy
You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
Hi!
I've been wondering if our device could act as an USB host. It would be good to experiment with that feature, adding new drivers to the kernel, and using external devices like a printer, or an usb drive. Is it possible?
I've read some forums, I've seen that on Motorola Droid and ZTE Blade, that they have attached an usb keyboard, or a usb flash drive. These devices did not have a power supply on the port, they solved it externally.
So, the big question is can we enable the host mode on the USB somehow?
I've heard this has to be supported by the processor, and as far as I know the MSM7227 does not support the USB-host function. :/
nutterbg said:
I've heard this has to be supported by the processor, and as far as I know the MSM7227 does not support the USB-host function. :/
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I did some research on this, and found something interesting:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/sEQxpLaNfqmYjQ0clvLM2Q?feat=directlink
I found this in the service manual of our phone So it's not impossible - the MSM7227 supports the host mode by hardware - the question is how do we get use of this?
zte blade has MSM7227 -> so if they got it workin ... maybe we can use their drivers?
that would be a great feature
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zte blade has MSM7227 -> so if they got it workin ... maybe we can use their drivers?
that would be a great feature
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I've googled a little more on this, here's what I found :
USB keyboard+ZTE Blade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ydScM0sXU
The guy's webpage, who made the custom kernel for USB Host mode to ZTE Blade and Nexus One - could be useful http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
And his kernel: https://github.com/sonic74/kernel_msm - the only problem is that this kernel is .35, i don't know if we could port the host drivers from that
If any devs are here, please help us
(I'd love the next SwiftDroid with usb host support)
Before I try looking into this, wtf is USB hosts. I'm gessing its different to Adb and mass storage by the looks of this conversation :/
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Before I try looking into this, wtf is USB hosts. I'm gessing its different to Adb and mass storage by the looks of this conversation :/
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USB host is the 'boss' device so to speak. It gives commands to its connected devices (USB Slaves) So, when your phone is connected to computer, the PC is Host where the phone is a slave. So using USB host on a phone/tablet, means you can connect a manner of devices such as keyboards, mice, flash drives and such. Hope that answers your question
any progress?
http://rumah-android.com/read-your-flashdisk-into-android-deviceusb-on-the-go.html any one try this and give us result.........
USB Host will come with platform 3.0+ ( for tablet )
So, you connect USB device to it.
If you want to control other device with Android platform below 3.0.
May use IOIO Board.
more detail
http://androidcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/10/ioio-board-for-android-control-io.html
Hi,
i would really need a USB Ethernet adapter for my Galaxy Note. I searched forums and all i found was for tablets. I also noticed several times that people were talking that you can build the driver for specific device from official driver. If i understand right i could buy some USB Ethernet adapter and then build it's driver for galaxy note? Or not? Or is there maybe some "universal" driver already made?
I would be really thankful if someone explained this a little more.
Tnx
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Please do not post questions in a dev section.
alyosha said:
Hi,
i would really need a USB Ethernet adapter for my Galaxy Note. I searched forums and all i found was for tablets. I also noticed several times that people were talking that you can build the driver for specific device from official driver. If i understand right i could buy some USB Ethernet adapter and then build it's driver for galaxy note? Or not? Or is there maybe some "universal" driver already made?
I would be really thankful if someone explained this a little more.
Tnx
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The drivers are included in the linux kernel of android, so the driver support is directly linked to the version of the kernel used on your device.
A small search gave me a result: look for USB to RJ45 Ethernet Adapter on amazon (you'll need a USB - micro usb adaptater tho.
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The drivers are included in the linux kernel of android, so the driver support is directly linked to the version of the kernel used on your device.
A small search gave me a result: look for USB to RJ45 Ethernet Adapter on amazon (you'll need a USB - micro usb adaptater tho.
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So if i understand there are drivers already in kernel? Because i'm almost sure i red before that there are no drivers in kernel so this doesn't work out of the box.
I have OTG adapter so this is not problem. I'll try and buy some adapter and we will see if this will work. I have hydra-core kernel on stock rom.
alyosha said:
So if i understand there are drivers already in kernel? Because i'm almost sure i red before that there are no drivers in kernel so this doesn't work out of the box.
I have OTG adapter so this is not problem. I'll try and buy some adapter and we will see if this will work. I have hydra-core kernel on stock rom.
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Sadly you'll have to try by yourself, but apparently, the one i found on amazon (around 16£) works on android 3.1+ devices.
shoutr said:
Sadly you'll have to try by yourself, but apparently, the one i found on amazon (around 16£) works on android 3.1+ devices.
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Aham Do you maybe have Name and model of that device?
How about this? MicroUSB to RJ45..no need of a OTG in between I havent try it though..just found it on ebay & amazon..
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Etherne...&sr=8-6&keywords=USB+to+RJ45+Ethernet+Adapter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tablet-5PIN...ablet_A_V_Cables_Adapters&hash=item4abdf06875
Ebay Adapter
Hi,
here is my unhelpful comment:
I have one of the little buggers (see attached image) boght on eBay:
Search for "USB to LAN RJ45 Network"
It works under Linux and identifies itself as:
"Davicom DM9601 USB Ethernet" and uses the Linux-Kernel-Module dm9601 (as it seems).
(NOTE: One strange thing: The newly bought device uses a MAC address, that was registered to an colleague on our network here. So it spoofs the address?!?!)
Combined with the Host-USB-Adater (OTG) it can be connected to the N7000 - BUT:
A) The LED lights up and blinks to show the trafic on the line
B) Nothing happens on the screen
C) In Elixir it shows up as
Name: /dev/bus/usb/002/002
ID: 2002
Product-ID: 38656
Vendor-ID: 4070
I Get no Menu to configure the wired connection.
So I guess there is no Driver.
I Used Hydracore v7 and Thor Kernel 0.26. (which is WAAAY slower then hydracore)
are there other things I could try?
This looks an interesting idea, wonder is its possible to to have PoE as well, disconnecting network access just to charge would be pretty annoying otherwise.
Hey!
This is my first thread I've ever created, so don't be too harsh on me
As far as I know, the new Android 10 includes a so called "desktop mode". So you can connect a compatible device via USB to an external screen. I think thats pretty cool and samsung already implemented this idea from the S8 upwards with Samsung Dex.
I understand that this needs USB 3.1, but the Motorola G7 Plus only has USB 2.0!
According to the datasheet of the build-in Snapdragon 636 processor, it does support USB 3.1!
So here comes the question: Is it possible to "activate" the required functionality in order to use the desktop mode?
So like changing a few things inside the root files (Like you can activate for example OTG)?
If not, is the hardware build that way, that it just doesn't have the data-lines?
And also, if all of that doesn't work, you surely saw such USB 2.0 to HDMI adapter, which do work on older computers, but do they might work with Android 10 connected to otg?
It would be really cool if something of that might work.
Thanks for your response!
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Hey!
This is my first thread I've ever created, so don't be too harsh on me
As far as I know, the new Android 10 includes a so called "desktop mode". So you can connect a compatible device via USB to an external screen. I think thats pretty cool and samsung already implemented this idea from the S8 upwards with Samsung Dex.
I understand that this needs USB 3.1, but the Motorola G7 Plus only has USB 2.0!
According to the datasheet of the build-in Snapdragon 636 processor, it does support USB 3.1!
So here comes the question: Is it possible to "activate" the required functionality in order to use the desktop mode?
So like changing a few things inside the root files (Like you can activate for example OTG)?
If not, is the hardware build that way, that it just doesn't have the data-lines?
And also, if all of that doesn't work, you surely saw such USB 2.0 to HDMI adapter, which do work on older computers, but do they might work with Android 10 connected to otg?
It would be really cool if something of that might work.
Thanks for your response!
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Unfortunately this device does not support MHL so usb to HDMI dongles do not work. Apparently moto hasn't supported MHL for some time .
digitaljeff said:
Unfortunately this device does not support MHL so usb to HDMI dongles do not work. Apparently moto hasn't supported MHL for some time .
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Thanks for your answer. But I knew that before. I am trying to finde some "workarounds" for this, because I do really like this phone!
Found a solution
So, after a bit of research, I found a solution to add external screens to any OTG compatible Android phone!
There are so called "DisplayLink adapters" and those seem to be compatible with any Android phone that supports OTG.
After installing the official app "DisplayLink Presenter", you should be able to get everything working.
I din't tested it yet, but I hope that this will help someone in the future.