Does somebody know yet if this device needs pin4 and pin5 connected (ground) for fast-charging on micro-usb?
On my kaiser I needed to connect these two to be able to charge in my car with my standard USB-charger.
To keep this charger as a universal charger (hope its 2 Amperes won't fry my HD2), I need to buy new cables or a mini-usb to micro-usb adapter and might need to modify them.
I noticed that the battery on my kaiser was getting fairly hot on this 2amps. Is there a protecting circuit, or is this in a safe range for those batteries?
amperes of you charger are max current, wchich you cat have from the charger... it is all about, how much leo will take it is about voltage...
and sorry, no idea about this connectivity... if you will tell me, how to check this, i will check it for you...
So, if I understood correctly, the device determines how much Amps to be drawn?
If you take the wall-charger and you look onto the micro-usb plug:
Code:
_____________
\ , , , , , /
\_________/
PIN: 5 4 3 2 1
For a Kaiser device to fastcharge , pin 5 and 4 must be connected together.
On normal USB-cables (micro and mini) for data, pin4 has no function, it isn't even wired in the cable.
Do you have a volt-meter to check this?
Thanks!
USB A male to micro USB A male cable versus USB B cable?
Hello guys,
I bought my HD2 yesterday ! I am very happy with it.
I would like to buy 2 more cables on ebay (1 for the office, 1 for home).
Should I buy the
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
I am a bit confused here.
I see 2 types of cables on ebay, not sure which one to buy!
Any ideas?
Thanks
If my assumptions are correct, and the cables work like on the Kaiser device, it's:
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable (for fast-charging, works with generic-usb car charger - NO data connection)
edit: WRONG, because micro-A-plug is not compatible with micro-B-socket.
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable (for data-connection and slow USB-charging)
Still needs confirmation by an HD2-user, but I don't think HTC changed something going from mini to micro-plug. (I think they dropped EXT-usb design for having an extra 3,5mm headset-jack instead. - but that shouldn't confuse you)
Well, not exactly:
Type A is to be plugged into host-device (the one supplying power to the other device, usually the charger or your computer), whereas type B is to be plugged into the target device (in this case, the HD2).
This typology exists to prevent you from linking two power suppliers at both ends of the cable...
So what you need is a "USB Type A to Micro USB Type B" cable
That's the original USB-specs, you are referring to.
Mini/micro-A-plugs are using pin4-to-ground by these USB-spec, for electronically differenciating these.
What I wanted to pinpoint, is that HTC decided to mark pin4-to-ground for detection of their charging equipment.
And since micro-A plugs fit into micro-B sockets, you should be able to use a "USB A male to micro USB A male cable" for your charging needs (without modifying your micro-B cable, which can be quite tricky because of its size)
edit: I was wrong with that, it's the other way round, sry. Does the HD2 have a AB-socket then? I believe it's a regular B-socket.
Then if I stand correctly, you will still need a special modified micro-B-cable for charging.
To make it even more difficult, HTC-design does not charge the Kaiser with a regular mini-b-cable on a car-charger, because there was no data-signal on it.
My intention of this thread was asking, if this behavior has changed when going from mini to micro-usb design, and is still an unanswered question.
sayborg said:
Hello guys,
...
I would like to buy 2 more cables on ebay (1 for the office, 1 for home).
Should I buy the
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
I am a bit confused here.
I see 2 types of cables on ebay, not sure which one to buy!
Any ideas?
Thanks
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...same for me. may I have a clear and "safe" answer for dummie?
- USB A male to micro USB A male cable
OR
- USB A male to micro USB B male cable
Thanks a lot.
only USB-B-male fit into the device, boy!
Well, I've seen unboxing videos now, and the wall-charger ... is a normal-USB-plug-in device like a car-charger. Seems that my intention of this thread is obsolete.
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My 220V adapter that conects to the cradle is broken (gives only 0.7-1V).
According to O2 NL the 1 year warranty is only for the XDA itself, and they seem NOT to sell the 220V adapter separate!
Any ideas if a universal ~220V / 4.5V or 5V adapter should work with the cradle???
Marco
If it is a USB cradle, you can also modify it, to get the power of the PC directly.
Normaly all universal adapter will work. You just have to take a look at the size of the connector, polartiy of the connector ( + and - ), and the voltage of it. I think the power consume is low, so that you don´t need a Adapter with 100W...
Regards
stefan
I use the Adapter of a Nokia 6310 on the road.. it has 5.7V and the same plug as the XDA
Fidl
Does the Nokia adapter works 100% oke? Because it is just 500ma and the original XDA adapter is 1000ma?
Yes it works ok!
I am using it for about half a year now most of the time and i did not experience any problems
Fidl
220V adapter
Hey
i needed to have 2 adapters for my XDA.
one for the office and the other to my house.
so what i did is i bought a direct USB XDA charger for 15$ and a FIXED 5.0 volts,1amps power supply from some phone srore - 5$.
im a computer tekkie so i got myself a USB female connector (you can buy the in a computer store for 3-5$) and i connected the VCC+ and Ground of the USB female connector to the power supply`s + and -, VUALA! its a perfet charger.
you can disconnect the USB cable from the female USB and use the cable so sync.
Thanks for the feedback Fidl.
Smart thinking Sonic ... as I already have an USB sync/charge cable this is a nice option
I just wanted to share what I'd done for my streak in order to quit carrying a cable around everywhere. This is just a quick outline of what I did and supplies I used to make it.
Disclaimer:I am in no way responsible for your warranty getting void, phone blowing up starting ww3 or any other faults that may be the result of attempting this
Parts list:
1x streak usb cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16065922734...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_500wt_1286
1x micro usb to mini usb adapter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/25098693990...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3016wt_1035
1x old dvd case
5 minute epoxy
Optional:
small piece of carbon fiber vinyl
what to do:
-cut micro usb out of its rubber/plastic shell
-desolder all the wires
-cut the streak cable close to pdmi connector
-refer to this site for usb diagram, make sure to note that there's one pin that gets skipped over on the micro usb adapter
http://pinouts.ru/SerialPortsCables/usb_cable_pinout.shtml
-solder wires accordingly refer to my pictures if you get lost (the pdmi cable comes with all the wires correctly color coded)
-plug into streak and see if it works
-if everything works proceed to make a plastic shell for it out of dvd case
-use a little bit of epoxy to mount everything and keep it from sliding around
end result should look something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnLv5UIocW8&feature=youtu.be
Hi I'm not trying to negate the value of your guide in any way. I think a permanent mod to a compatible connection makes a lot of sense, especially if one never plans on using a Dell Streak 7 dock. However, if you're not that motivated and or aren't willing to brick your device this is a great $8 solution: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140853176551?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649.
The cable you linked to wouldn't work, because the jack on the non-PDMI end is a USB A female connector, which accepts the end of the USB cable (USB A male) that normally plugs into the laptop or PC itself. To make it as useful as the DIY adapter the OP mentioned would require you to dismantle the host adapter and replace the USB A female jack with a MicroUSB B female jack.
PDMI connector to mini usb connector
Hello man. My name is Mario. I come from Italy. I'm a psychologist,but on the spare time I like to play with linux & mobile & tablet & technology in general. I was searching for a OTG adapter that was able to recharge my nexus 10 and at the same time that accepts an external sd card and someone has suggests this to me :
eKit 4 in 1 Data Sync Connection Kit For Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 & Note 10.1
you can read the full story here :
http://android.stackexchange.com/que...-the-same-time
the problem is that I haven't read very well what he says and I haven't understood that it is not good for the nexus 10. For this reason I have tried to search a way to convert the PDMI connector to a mini usb connector and I have found this thread. I would like to ask you if I can make the same thing that you have done and if you can tell me which electric modification I have to make to the board of this connector to convert it as a mini usb connector. Thanks.
My problem is simple, i'm tethering my Wifi Nexus 10 to my Galaxy S3 and the S3 just doesn't have the staying power of the tablet and the AP is battery intensive.
I have considered:
Extended battery (unofficial) - don't want the bulk.
Extended battery (official) - not cost effective.
The other option would be usb otg and charger cable but I'd like a single cable if possible.
To make it clear - I'm looking for a double ended micro usb (B) cable.
If anyone knows of a reason this wouldn't work please do say
You could use this adapter with your original cable to see if it dies the job.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Right-Angle...006572?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27ccd180ac
I have the same setup (nexus10 and s3) let us know if it does work.
You could try monoprice.com. I get all of my cords and such from them.
eBuyer tend to be pretty good for this stuff.
Just FYI, I tried this using an OTG adapter and a standard USB-A to USB-B micro cable. Depending on which side I plug the OTG adapter into, the S3 charges the Nexus (when the adapter is plugged into the S3) or vice versa (when the adapter is plugged into the N10).
EDIT: It would be interesting to try though what would happen if one was to connect the four pins (VCC, D+, D-, GND) directly to one another, with the ID pin being left unconnected (since that is what a Micro-B to Micro-B cable would most likely do). My guess is that nothing will happen, since neither of the devices assumes a master/slave state and so it doesn't know that it should supply power to the other device. I guess I need to order some Micro-B plugs at Digi-Key and whip up a cable...
--fbrozovic
I am interested if anyone knows the specifics of the micro usb connector used in the LG G2. I am only asking since I mixed up a Motorola Droid usb - micro usb cable last night with the OEM LG cable and thought my 24A update screwed the usb connectivity completely. It was just a cable mixup but it bugs me that the majority of my existing usb cables don't work with the G2. I would understand if the G2 had been shipped with usb 3.0 but it is a 2.0 spec but obviously a slightly different connector spec than older micro usb phones like my older Droids. I like the better connection - more tight and snug feeling with the G2 and OEM cable but I'm not sure what kind of cable to order if I was going to buy more for emergency or travel purposes. Is the new connector usb 3.0 compatible but simply not wired to usb 3.0 transceiever h/w ?
skay said:
I am interested if anyone knows the specifics of the micro usb connector used in the LG G2. I am only asking since I mixed up a Motorola Droid usb - micro usb cable last night with the OEM LG cable and thought my 24A update screwed the usb connectivity completely. It was just a cable mixup but it bugs me that the majority of my existing usb cables don't work with the G2. I would understand if the G2 had been shipped with usb 3.0 but it is a 2.0 spec but obviously a slightly different connector spec than older micro usb phones like my older Droids. I like the better connection - more tight and snug feeling with the G2 and OEM cable but I'm not sure what kind of cable to order if I was going to buy more for emergency or travel purposes. Is the new connector usb 3.0 compatible but simply not wired to usb 3.0 transceiever h/w ?
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I just picked up a $3.00 USB OTG cable with a fullsized female usb to plug in USB sticks to transfer movies for the guys are work.
OTG is fully supported on the G2, (even shows the plug n pop Graphics of a usb stick inserting.)
Sometimes however it can get a lil finnicky in regards to format however.
I always format my usb sticks on the phone in settings then its good to go.
OK, so the format of the cable is not usb 2.0 micro usb but actually OTG (on the go). I was not aware that OTG had a physical connector change in it's specification, I guess I thought it was simply an enhancement of capabilities of the current micro usb connection. It's wierd how some micro usb cables seem to interoperate OK with OTG and some other don't.
Sorry for the misleading nature of this thread, I simply had a usb cable that went belly up and may have been working intermittently before. I just tested with a plain vanilla .99c usb-micro-usb cable and it work absolutely fine. I imagine the micro usb connectors on these cables can get hosed pretty easily and the G2's female connector seems to be pretty sensitive (some female connectors can be that way
i have a galaxy S4 and have just ordered a G4 (standard micro usb). can i use my old car charger and pc data cable, are they the same as the G4 or do i have to buy new ones?
TIA
EDIT: gsmarena specs say micro USB 2.0 for both, so i'm guessing they're the same
With the exception of the new Type-C Nexus devices and a few odd samsung tablets, most android devices follow the same standards (to my knowledge). I think only the S5 had the USB 3.0 plug -- in which case the cable wouldn't work -- so you should be fine.
You can plug a micro usb 2.0 cable into a micro usb 3.0 device, but you can't plug a micro usb 3.0 cable into a micro usb 2.0 device.
But I want usb type-c to replace everything.
Knowbody42 said:
You can plug a micro usb 2.0 cable into a micro usb 3.0 device, but you can't plug a micro usb 3.0 cable into a micro usb 2.0 device.
But I want usb type-c to replace everything.
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That should be a thing of the past now.
USB 3.0 never caught on and will be replaced with USB type C.
That is a good thing as the USB 3.0 end was a hideously huge waste of time designing.
Milimbar said:
That should be a thing of the past now.
USB 3.0 never caught on and will be replaced with USB type C.
That is a good thing as the USB 3.0 end was a hideously huge waste of time designing.
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Yes, the micro USB 3.0 connector is just crap. It breaks easily, and isn't particularly small anyway.
I had the S4 and I use the same charger and cable I used to charge it. That charger/cable is old now, at first it charged at 1900mAh but now it only reaches 900mAh. It is ok for a charge during the night. I had to buy a new USB cable that is charging a little bit faster.
I have a quickcharge 2.0 charger and cable that I use in extreme cases where I need ultra quick charges.